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A42386 A brief examination of the present Roman Catholick faith contained in Pope Pius his new creed, by the Scriptures, antient fathers and their own modern writers, in answer to a letter desiring satisfaction concerning the visibility of the protestant church and religion in all ages, especially before Luther's time. Gardiner, Samuel, 1619 or 20-1686. 1689 (1689) Wing G244; ESTC R29489 119,057 129

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themselves_o in_o vain_a then_o do_v they_o worship_v god_n teach_v for_o doctrine_n the_o commandment_n of_o man_n yea_o so_o besot_v be_v they_o with_o their_o image_n that_o they_o condemn_v durand_n as_o little_o less_o than_o a_o heretic_n for_o say_v that_o image_n be_v adore_v only_o improper_o 2._o bellarmine_n de_fw-fr imag._n cap._n 21._o lib._n 2._o because_o they_o put_v man_n in_o mind_n of_o the_o person_n represent_v by_o they_o so_o that_o they_o proper_o adore_v not_o the_o image_n but_o adore_v and_o worship_v the_o prototype_n before_o they_o contrary_o azorius_fw-la affirm_v as_o also_o jacob_n naclantus_fw-la follow_v aquinas_n that_o it_o be_v the_o constant_a opinion_n of_o their_o divine_n 21._o in_o rom._n c._n 1._o constans_n opinio_fw-la v._o cassand_n consult_v de_fw-fr imagine_v in_o rom._n c._n 1._o fol._n 42._o quote_v by_o bishop_n usher_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o malon_n and_o bellar._n l._n 2._o de_fw-fr imag._n c._n 20_o 21._o that_o the_o image_n 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afraid_a to_o charge_v this_o council_n not_o only_o with_o imprudence_n but_o impiety_n for_o make_v such_o a_o canon_n the_o image_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o woman_n he_o heal_v of_o her_o bloudy-issue_n as_o also_o the_o picture_n of_o peter_n and_o paul_n in_o colour_n eusebius_n hist_o lib._n 7._o c._n 14._o rather_o excuse_v than_o commend_v 22._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d see_v tertul_n adv_fw-la martion_n l._n 4._o c._n 22._o as_o imply_v some_o favour_n or_o imitation_n of_o heathenish_a custom_n to_o honour_v their_o benefactor_n but_o have_v not_o a_o word_n of_o any_o sort_n of_o worship_n give_v by_o any_o to_o they_o de_fw-fr praeparat_fw-la lib._n 3._o c._n 3._o he_o say_v what_o corporeal_a thing_n can_v be_v like_o god_n when_o we_o can_v have_v a_o image_n of_o any_o man_n soul_n 1._o ibid._n l._n 9_o c._n 2_o clem._n strom._n 555._o say_v the_o same_o p._n 304._o clem._n strom._n 1._o he_o affirm_v that_o there_o be_v no_o image_n in_o the_o jewish_a temple_n 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