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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A76289	A briefe ansvver to R.H. his booke, entitled, The true guide, &c. Wherein are occasionally declared and proved by Scripture these particular things following: [brace] first, that the baptisme of water is a distinct baptisme from the baptisme of the spirit. ... Sixthly, in what sense some things related in Scripture are not Scripture, with divers other particulars occasionally spoken of. / By R.B. a well-wisher to the truth, and R.H.	R. B., Well-wisher to the truth.	1646 (1646)	Wing B159; Thomason E357_2; ESTC R16628	31,113	40

do it Now the Word written rather warranted the Prophet to eate for his health and forbad Abraham to kill but they had a word immediately from the same fountaine from whence the Word written first came which being written is a record and rule to all the Saints but it seemes R. H. would not have God himselfe nor the Prophets and Apostles in no case to goe a jot higher then the Word written In Page 6. He mentions three or foure things negatively the first is about Childrens Baptisme and some other things questioning what we have against them and because he thinkes nothing can be said against that point concerning the Baptisme of water let him take these few things into consideration First how he can warrant the baptizing of any with water by vertue of that commission Mat. 28.19 Go teach all Nations baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost because the Apostles themselves that baptized with water before that commission was giuen could not baptize with this Baptisme till they were indued with power from one high Luke 24.49 Tarry ye in the City of Jerusalem till you be indued with power from on high Acts 1.4 And being assembled together with them commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem but waite for the promise of the Father which saith he ye have heard of me Secondly The baptisme of water was ever both before and after the giving of the Holy Ghost called Iohns Baptisme Act. 1.22 Beginning from the baptisme of John unto the same day that he was taken up from us Acts 18.25 This man was instructed in the way of the Lord and being fervent in the Spirit he taught diligently the things of the Lord knowing only the baptisme of Iohn And Acts 19.3 4 He said unto them unto what were ye then baptized they said unto Iohns Baptisme then said Paul John verily baptized with the baptisme of repentance c. Thirdly And no other forme of words were used in that Baptisme but in the name of the Lord Jesus only Acts 8.16 For as yee the Holy Ghost was falne upon none of them only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Iesus Acts 19 5. When they heard this they were baptized in the name of the Lord Iesus For the baptisme of the Spirit was by laying one of the Apostles hands Acts. 8. ●● Then laid they their hands on them and they received the Holy Ghost Fourthly The baptisme of the Spirit was not so much as signified by the baptisme with water as may appeare Acts 19.2 And he said unto them have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye beleeved and they said unto him we have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost But if the Baptisme of the spirit had been the thing signified by the baptism with water the Baptizers would no doubt have so instructed the parties baptized or else they must be concluded to be either negligent or ignorant of their office But Paul did not so much as reprove those Baptizers for any such neglect but by laying on of Pauls hands they received the Holy Ghost Nay further This Baptisme of the Holy Ghost was a distinct gift of the Spirit from that which the Apostles and all other Beleevers receive by their union with Christ for the Apostles had those gifts and graces which were and still are common to other Beleevers by vertue of their union before this was given but this which is the promise of the Father they had not till Christ was ascended Iohn 7.39 This he spake of the Spirit which they that beleeve on him should receive for the Holy Ghost was not yet given because that Iesus was not yet glorified Acts 1.5 Ye shall be baptied with the Holy Ghost not many daies hence Lastly S. Paul saith expresly it was no part of his commission 1 Cor. 1.15 17. but the Baptisme of the Spirit by laying on of hands was part of the Apostles commission Mat. 28.19 compared with Acts 8.18 Mark 16.15 16 17. If any object and say what doth the Baptisme with water signifie then I answer it signifies our remission of sins by the death of Christ Acts 2.38 Then said Peter repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Iesus Christ for the remission of sins c. Rom. 6.4 And as for the subjects of this Baptisme of water I commend to R.H. his consideration Mr. Tombes his Book who is a Presbyterian as they are called and hath written largely upon that point whose Book yet remaines unanswered for any thing I understand to the contrary when R.H. hath answered him rightly he will satisfie many Christians who are at a stand and very much troubled about that point and when he hath positively proved his other things he speakes of and turned his interrogations into positive conclusions fully proved we shall then more particularly know what to answer to them In the meane time we will suffer him to make Quaerees and because he loves quaerees let him take this one not what he hath against but what he hath for any of his way to desire of the Parliament that which is inconsistent to the fundamentall Laws of the Kingdome did ever any of those whom he calls perverse and obstinate people desire such a thing Let him also know that untill he hath positively proved his own practice he must be suspected for a seducer according to his own first rule And marke further how he swerves from his owne first rule for whereas he titles those deceivers that will practice that they have no rule from Scripture for he finding himselfe destitute of Scripture runs to the old Popish shift and makes Quaeries and saith what have you against such and such things but let him know that God hath Interrogations to set against his Interrogations which will overthrow them Esay 1.12 saying Who hath required this at your hands So that we have enough against a thing when we have nothing for it for positive positions and practices must have positive proofes for negative positions negative proofes suffice I do not a thing because I find it not written sufficeth Therefore the Jewes circumcised Males because there was expresse command for it and not Females because they found it not written and yet they had no expresse command against it So in the Law we read that the Priests were to beare the Arke on their shoulders Num. 4.15 1 Chron. 15.2 as was there expresly commanded but there was no expresse command against carrying it on a Cart only they had learned that of the Philistims 1 Sam. 6. but God made a breach upon them for it 2 Sam. 6.8 9. 1 Chron. 15.13 And so they learned to do it afterwards according to the Law of God 1 Chron. 15.14 15. And the children of the Levites bare the Arke of God upon their shoulders as Moses commanded according to the Word of the Lord. He interrogates yet

Dan 7. Joh 1.49 Thou art the King of Israel So Luke 1.32 Acts 2.30 and many more places And which is more the Law-giving power was so appropriated to Judahs Tribe that it was common to none other in the world with him and observe that this Law-giving power I do not say Law-making power for that was wholy delivered to them from God 1 Chron. 28.11 to the end 2 Chron. 29.25 2 Chron. 31.2 3. was so peculiar to Judahs Tribe that it was not common no not to the Kings of Israel who were Christian Kings by profession and lawfull by Gods approbation 1 King 11. else now were any Kings lawfull either in Israel or Judah for God told them expresly when they desired a King first that they had cast him off that he should not raigne over them 1 Sam. 8.5 6 7. But as Gods approbation of it afterwards made that lawfull so also this having also Gods approbation before the division 1 Kings 11.31 37 38. And he said to Jeroboam take thee ten pieces for thus saith the Lord I will rend the Kingdom out of the hands of Solomon and give ten Tribes unto thee and if thou harken to what I command thee and keep my Statutes as David my servant did I will be with thee and build thee a sure house as I built for David and will give Israel unto thee Yet he never approved of their actions about his worship for that as I said was peculiar to Judahs Tribe yet even this priviledge that was in Judahs Tribe was no morall right but typicall and shadowish only and so was wholy to vanish away and cease for ever when Christ came Gen. 49.10 Ezek. 21.26 27. Thus saith the Lord remove the Diadem and take off the Crowne this shall not be the same exalt him that is low and abase him that is high I will overturne overturne overturne it and it shall be no more untill he come whose right it is and I will give it him Now no Civill Kings of the Nations of this world were typed out but Christ Jesus only from whom it is that all Beleevers in a spirituall respect are equally Kings and Priests 1 Pet. 2.5 Rev. 1.6 for even as the Land People and Priesthood were types of a Spirituall not Civill Land People and Priesthood even so their Kings must also have their Spirituall Antitypes and so it followes clearly not Civill but spirituall even Christ Jesus is the true Antitype shadowed forth for if it were not so the very essentiallity of types and figures would be taken away and destroyed but the Civill power which is from nature and so Morall and perpetuall continues still and subjection to it is expresly commanded in Civill things Rom. 13. 1 Pet. 2.13 14. whereas subjection to it in matters Spirituall is as expresly forbidden Matth. 20 25 26 27 Luke 22.25 26 27. 1 Cor. 7.23 Col. 2.20 22. Mat. 15.9 And this is the true sense of the Gospell in this point thus clearly distinguishing betwixt the Civill and Spirituall power A little further he sets the Scriptures at variance amongst themselves and so leaves them never shewing what the spirit of God meanes in those places of Jude 3. Contend earnestly for the faith once given to the Saints and Mat. 11. The Kingdome of Heaven suffers violence and the violent take it by force But he doth in this case as some Fishes who will make the water thick and muddie that they may the easier get away undiscerned it may be he counteth all calling into question his wayes to be contention though it be done lovingly and his open calumniating others that differ from him to be no striving nor contention giving them his charitable brand a perverse and obstinate people But if this be his charity we desire he should keep it to himselfe and pretend lesse love and intend more In Page 7. his second rule to try the spirits is this Those motions or perswasions that are pleasing to the flesh and take most with naturall men are not from the spirit of God His proofes are Gal. 5.17 1 Cor. 2.14 For the flesh lusteth against the spirit and the spirit against the flesh c. Whereto I answer Our wayes cannot please naturall men for we declare to them that untill they be borne againe and beleeve in Christ they are carnall still Rom. 8.9 If any man have not the spirit of God he is none of his And so being not beleevers they cannot be true Church-members But they admit all without exception and is not that pleasing to flesh and bloud to have their carnall wayes and yet be counted Gods children too as is plaine by their communicating with them in their Church-priviledges But let R. H. goe about to unchurch them and take away that Religion that they seeme to have from them and then he shall see plainly whether it will displease flesh and bloud or no. It followes page 7. What profit is it that we keep his Ordinances Verily if R. H. have repented of any service performed by him to God that was not Gods he hath done well and I hope he will say the same by us doing the like but if he meanes it of that service that indeed is Gods I know none that repents of any service performed to God unlesse it be of their wants and weaknesses in their performances c. It followes page 8. where he quotes a place out of Matth. 24.26 and once before Pag. 2. but his Reader may go seeke the true sense the words are these Wherefore if they shall say to you he is in the desert go not forth behold he is in the secret chamber beleeve it not c. But what doth he thinke is meant by the desert where is it thinks he Is it some wildernesse naturall where wild Beasts inhabite this is indeed a naturall construction or is it Spirituall which verily is more likely according to that Rev. 12. whither the woman fled for shelter and was preserved there rather by Gods providence than by vertue of any true outward Church-Office and Ordinance For the outward Court was given to the Gentiles Rev. 11.2 and the true visible Ministry by Office was departed and an earthly one succeeded all that time of the forty two moneths Revel 9.1 I saw a Star fall from heaven to the earth and to him was given the key of the bottomlesse pit And in Rev. 11.2 it is said the outward Court was given to the Gentiles and this is that departing foretold by the Apostle Paul 2 Thes 2.3 That day shall not come except there come a falling away first and that man of sinne be revealed see Acts 20.29 After my departing shall grievous Wolves enter in among you not sparing the flocke And by our Saviour Mat. 24.24 25 26. For there shall arise false Christs and false Prophets c. Luke 17.21 22 23. So that the Saints being in their spirituall Babylonish captivity no marvell that their state was so confused For as