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three_o more_o out_o of_o s._n austin_n who_o seem_v to_o speak_v prophetical_o etc._n prophetical_o de_fw-fr unit_fw-la eccles_n c._n 10._o his_o dictis_fw-la mox_fw-la ascendit_fw-la in_o coelum_fw-la praemunire_n voluit_fw-la aures_fw-la nostras_fw-la adversus_fw-la eos_fw-la qui_fw-la procedentibus_fw-la temporibus_fw-la exsurrecturos_fw-la esse_fw-la praedixerat_fw-la &_o dicturos_fw-la ecce_fw-la hic_fw-la christus_fw-la ecce_fw-la illic_fw-la quibus_fw-la nec_fw-la crederemus_fw-la admonuit_fw-la nec_fw-la ulla_fw-la nobis_fw-la excusatio_fw-la est_fw-la si_fw-la crediderimus_fw-la contra_fw-la vocem_fw-la pastoris_fw-la nostri_fw-la tam_fw-la claram_fw-la tam_fw-la apertam_fw-la tam_fw-la manifestam_fw-la etc._n etc._n have_v say_v thus_o he_o ascend_v into_o heaven_n and_o will_v precaution_n we_o against_o those_o that_o he_o foretell_v will_v arise_v in_o succeed_a age_n and_o say_v lo_o here_o be_v christ_n or_o lo_o there_o who_o he_o warn_v we_o not_o to_o believe_v and_o 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impossible_a that_o one_o body_n shall_v pass_v through_o another_o unless_o there_o be_v ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d that_o which_o divide_v and_o that_o which_o be_v divide_v claud._n mamertus_n est_fw-la mamertus_n de_fw-fr statu_fw-la animae_fw-la l._n 2._o c._n 3._o nihil_fw-la illocale_n corporeum_fw-la omne_fw-la illocale_n incorporeum_fw-la quoque_fw-la est_fw-la nothing_o illocal_a be_v corporeal_a every_o thing_n illocal_a be_v also_o incorporeal_a and_o again_o posteriora_fw-la again_o ibid._n lib._n 1._o c._n 18._o hinc_fw-la patet_fw-la omne_fw-la corpus_fw-la totum_fw-la simul_fw-la tangi_fw-la non_fw-la posse_fw-la nec_fw-la in_o uno_fw-la loco_fw-la esse_fw-la quamlibet_fw-la minimum_fw-la totum_fw-la posse_fw-la illic_fw-la non_fw-la habet_fw-la inferiora_fw-la sva_fw-la ubi_fw-la habet_fw-la superiora_fw-la sva_fw-la nec_fw-la illic_fw-la dextra_fw-la ubi_fw-la sinistra_fw-la nec_fw-la anteriora_fw-la illic_fw-la ubi_fw-la posteriora_fw-la it_o be_v plain_a that_o 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place_n he_o shall_v be_v absent_a from_o another_o etc._n etc._n and_o elsewhere_o sit_fw-la elsewhere_o lib._n 8._o de_fw-la trinitate_fw-la homo_fw-la aut_fw-la aliquid_fw-la ei_fw-la simile_n cùm_fw-la alicubi_fw-la erit_fw-la tum_fw-la alibi_fw-la non_fw-la erit_fw-la quia_fw-la illud_fw-la quod_fw-la est_fw-la illic_fw-la continetur_fw-la ubi_fw-la fuerit_fw-la infirma_fw-la ad_fw-la id_fw-la natura_fw-la ejus_fw-la ut_fw-la ubique_fw-la sit_fw-la qui_fw-la insistens_fw-la alicubi_fw-la sit_fw-la a_o man_n or_o any_o thing_n like_o he_o when_o he_o be_v in_o a_o place_n any_o where_o can_v then_o be_v elsewhere_o because_o that_o which_o be_v there_o be_v contain_v where_o it_o be_v and_o he_o that_o be_v place_v any_o where_o his_o nature_n be_v uncapable_a to_o be_v every_o where_n so_o also_o nazianzen_n ãâã_d nazianzen_n orat._n 51._o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d a_o vessel_n of_o the_o capacity_n of_o one_o measure_n will_v not_o contain_v two_o measure_n nor_o the_o place_n that_o will_v hold_v one_o body_n can_v receive_v two_o or_o more_o body_n into_o it_o again_o ãâã_d again_o paulo_n post_n ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d a_o little_a after_o this_o be_v the_o nature_n of_o intellectual_a being_n that_o incorporeal_o and_o indivisible_o they_o mingle_v with_o one_o another_o and_o with_o body_n and_o elsewhere_o ãâã_d elsewhere_o orat._n 37._o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d he_o prove_v the_o deity_n
of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n because_o he_o penetrate_v all_o intellectual_a pure_a and_o most_o subtle_a spirit_n as_o the_o angel_n and_o also_o apostle_n and_o prophet_n at_o the_o same_o time_n when_o they_o be_v not_o in_o the_o same_o place_n but_o disperse_v several_o which_o show_v that_o the_o holy_a spirit_n be_v uncircumscribed_a s._n basil_n use_v the_o same_o argument_n etc._n argument_n de_fw-fr spir._n s._n cap._n 14._o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d etc._n etc._n to_o prove_v the_o same_o every_o one_o of_o the_o other_o power_n we_o believe_v to_o be_v in_o a_o circumscribe_v place_n for_o the_o angel_n that_o be_v present_a to_o cornelius_n be_v not_o in_o the_o same_o place_n that_o he_o be_v in_o when_o he_o be_v present_a to_o philip_n nor_o the_o angel_n that_o talk_v with_o zacharias_n at_o the_o atar_n do_v at_o the_o same_o time_n fulfil_v his_o station_n in_o heaven_n but_o the_o spirit_n we_o believe_v can_v at_o the_o same_o time_n act_n both_o in_o abaccuk_n and_o in_o daniel_n when_o he_o be_v in_o babylon_n etc._n etc._n for_o the_o spirit_n of_o the_o lord_n fill_v the_o universe_n which_o be_v a_o ill_a argument_n ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d if_o christ_n body_n can_v be_v in_o more_o place_n at_o the_o same_o time_n arnobius_n plurimis_fw-la arnobius_n lib._n 6._o contra_fw-la gentes_fw-la in_o simulachris_fw-la dii_fw-la habitant_fw-la singuline_a in_o singulis_fw-la toti_fw-la a_o partiliter_fw-la atque_fw-la in_o membra_fw-la divisi_fw-la nam_fw-la neque_fw-la unus_fw-la deus_fw-la in_o compluribus_fw-la potis_fw-la est_fw-la uno_fw-la tempore_fw-la inesse_fw-la simulachris_fw-la neque_fw-la rursus_fw-la in_o part_n sectione_n interveniente_fw-la divisus_fw-la constituamus_fw-la enim_fw-la decem_fw-la millia_fw-la simulachrorum_fw-la toto_fw-la esse_fw-la in_o orbe_fw-la vulcani_n nunquid_fw-la esse_fw-la ut_fw-la dixi_fw-la decem_fw-la omnibus_fw-la in_o millibus_fw-la potis_fw-la est_fw-la unus_fw-la uno_fw-la in_o tempore_fw-la non_fw-la opinor_fw-la qua_fw-la causa_fw-la quia_fw-la quae_fw-la sunt_fw-la privata_fw-la singulariaque_fw-la naturâ_fw-la multa_fw-la fieri_fw-la nequeunt_fw-la simplicitatis_fw-la suae_fw-la integritate_fw-la servata_fw-la si_fw-la hoc_fw-la fuerit_fw-la sumptum_fw-la posse_fw-la unum_fw-la in_o omnibus_fw-la eodem_fw-la tempore_fw-la permanere_fw-la aut_fw-la deorum_fw-la unusquisque_fw-la dicendus_fw-la ita_fw-la ipsum_fw-la semet_fw-la ab_fw-la ipso_fw-la se_fw-la dividere_fw-la ut_fw-la &_o ipse_fw-la sit_fw-la &_o alter_v non_fw-la aliquo_fw-la discrimine_fw-la separatus_fw-la sed_fw-la &_o ipse_fw-la idem_fw-la &_o alius_fw-la quod_fw-la quoniam_fw-la recusar_n &_o respuit_fw-la aspernaturque_fw-la natura_fw-la aut_fw-la innumeros_fw-la dicendum_fw-la est_fw-la confitendumque_fw-la esse_fw-la vulcanos_fw-la si_fw-la in_o cunctis_fw-la volumus_fw-la eum_fw-la degere_fw-la atque_fw-la inesse_fw-la simulachris_fw-la aut_fw-la crit_n in_o nullo_n quia_fw-la esse_fw-la divisus_fw-la natura_fw-la prohibetur_fw-la in_o plurimis_fw-la dispute_v against_o the_o heathen_n who_o say_v that_o their_o god_n do_v inhabit_v their_o statue_n who_o yet_o they_o believe_v to_o be_v finite_a and_o bound_v urge_v they_o thus_o the_o god_n that_o inhabit_v in_o statue_n be_v they_o single_a god_n that_o be_v in_o single_a statue_n whole_a or_o divide_v into_o several_a part_n for_o one_o god_n finite_a as_o they_o be_v can_v be_v in_o many_o statue_n at_o the_o same_o time_n nor_o again_o exist_v divide_v into_o part_n by_o be_v cut_v asunder_o for_o let_v we_o suppose_v that_o there_o be_v ten_o thousand_o statue_n of_o vulcan_n all_o the_o world_n over_o can_v one_o at_o one_o time_n be_v in_o all_o those_o ten_o thousand_o statue_n i_o think_v not_o if_o you_o ask_v why_o so_o even_o because_o those_o thing_n that_o be_v of_o a_o particular_a and_o singular_a nature_n can_v be_v make_v many_o retain_v the_o entireness_n of_o their_o simplicity_n 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cùm_fw-la omnis_fw-la creatura_fw-la certis_fw-la suae_fw-la naturae_fw-la sit_fw-la circumscripta_fw-la limitibus_fw-la etc._n etc._n quomodo_fw-la quis_fw-la audeat_fw-la creaturam_fw-la appellare_fw-la spiritum_fw-la s._n qui_fw-la non_fw-la habeat_fw-la circumscriptam_fw-la determinatamque_fw-la virtutem_fw-la quia_fw-la &_o in_fw-la omnibus_fw-la &_o ubique_fw-la semper_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la utique_fw-la divinitatis_fw-la &_o dominationis_fw-la est_fw-la proprium_fw-la de_fw-fr quo_fw-la hoc_fw-la angelo_n scriptura_fw-la dicit_fw-la de_fw-fr qua_fw-la dominatione_fw-la de_fw-fr qua_fw-la potestate_fw-la cujus_fw-la invenimus_fw-la angeli_fw-la virtutem_fw-la per_fw-la plurimos_fw-la effe_n diffusam_fw-la quis_fw-la ergo_fw-la dubitet_fw-la quin_fw-la divinum_fw-la sit_fw-la quod_fw-la infunditur_fw-la simul_fw-la pluribus_fw-la nec_fw-la videtur_fw-la corporeum_fw-la autem_fw-la quod_fw-la videtur_fw-la à _fw-la singulis_fw-la &_o tenetur_fw-la since_o every_o creature_n be_v bound_v within_o certain_a limit_n of_o its_o nature_n etc._n etc._n how_o dare_v any_o one_o call_v the_o holy_a ghost_n a_o creature_n who_o have_v not_o a_o limit_a and_o determine_v virtue_n for_o he_o be_v always_o in_o all_o thing_n and_o in_o all_o place_n which_o be_v the_o property_n of_o the_o divinity_n and_o of_o supreme_a rule_n and_o afterward_o mention_v that_o place_n of_o the_o psalmist_n whither_o shall_v i_o go_v from_o thy_o spirit_n he_o add_v of_o what_o angel_n do_v the_o scripture_n say_v thus_o of_o what_o principality_n of_o what_o power_n what_o angel_n virtue_n do_v we_o find_v diffuse_v among_o many_o who_o can_v doubt_v then_o that_o to_o be_v divine_a that_o be_v at_o once_o infuse_v into_o more_o and_o be_v not_o see_v and_o that_o to_o be_v corporeal_a which_o be_v see_v of_o every_o one_o and_o hold_v by_o they_o noââaâian_n possit_fw-la noââaâian_n lib._n de_fw-fr trinitate_fw-la si_fw-mi homo_fw-la tantummodo_fw-la christus_fw-la quomodo_fw-la adest_fw-la ubique_fw-la invocaturis_fw-la cùm_fw-la haec_fw-la non_fw-la hominis_fw-la natura_fw-la est_fw-la sed_fw-la dei_fw-la ut_fw-la adesse_fw-la in_o omni_fw-la loco_fw-la possit_fw-la also_o prove_v the_o deity_n of_o christ_n by_o his_o presence_n in_o every_o place_n if_o christ_n be_v only_a man_n how_o be_v be_v every_o where_o present_a with_o those_o that_o call_v upon_o he_o see_v this_o be_v not_o the_o nature_n of_o man_n but_o of_o god_n to_o be_v present_a in_o every_o place_n author_n quaest_n ad_fw-la antioch_n ãâã_d antioch_n quaest_n 26._o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d deny_v that_o angel_n can_v be_v present_a in_o many_o place_n at_o once_o and_o add_v that_o its_o god_n property_n only_o to_o be_v find_v in_o two_o place_n and_o in_o the_o whole_a world_n at_o the_o same_o moment_n of_o time_n in_o consequence_n of_o this_o doctrine_n of_o they_o about_o body_n the_o father_n in_o the_o last_o place_n assert_v 3_o assertion_n that_o be_v it_o impossible_a for_o one_o to_o dwell_v in_o himself_o or_o to_o partake_v of_o and_o have_v one_o own_o body_n in_o himself_o because_o whatsoever_o contain_v must_v be_v great_a than_o that_o which_o be_v contain_v in_o it_o and_o there_o will_v be_v a_o penetration_n of_o dimension_n which_o they_o deny_v cyril_n of_o alex._n ãâã_d alex._n de_fw-fr trin._n dialog_n 6._o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d lay_v it_o down_o as_o a_o rule_n that_o nothing_o can_v partake_v of_o itself_o and_o elsewhere_o ãâã_d elsewhere_o ibid._n dial._n 5._o &_o 7._o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d see_v nothing_o can_v partake_v of_o itself_o but_o this_o be_v with_o relation_n to_o another_o it_o be_v altogether_o necessary_a to_o affirm_v that_o that_o which_o partake_v shall_v be_v different_a in_o nature_n from_o that_o which_o be_v partake_v of_o and_o again_o ãâã_d again_o idem_fw-la in_o joan._n lib._n 2._o c._n 1._o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d he_o say_v that_o to_o partake_v of_o one_o self_n be_v absurd_a so_o much_o as_o to_o imagine_v it_o s._n chrysostom_n ãâã_d chrysostom_n hom._n 10._o in_o joan._n citat_fw-la à _fw-fr theodoret._n dial._n 2._o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d say_v he_o that_o dwell_v in_o the_o tabernacle_n and_o the_o tabernacle_n itself_o be_v not_o the_o same_o but_o one_o thing_n dwell_v in_o another_o thing_n for_o nothing_o dwell_v in_o
as_o proper_a to_o propose_v the_o example_n of_o the_o jew_n themselves_o to_o the_o romanist_n to_o provoke_v their_o emulation_n who_o they_o may_v see_v better_a explain_n as_o blind_a as_o they_o be_v christ_n word_n of_o institution_n and_o agree_v better_a with_o the_o ancient_a church_n in_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o eucharist_n than_o themselves_o and_o raise_v such_o argument_n and_o objection_n against_o the_o transubstantiate_a doctrine_n as_o can_v never_o to_o any_o purpose_n be_v answer_v the_o instance_n of_o this_o be_v very_o remarkable_a in_o a_o book_n call_v fortalitium_fw-la fidei_fw-la contra_fw-la judeos_fw-la etc._n etc._n print_v an._n 1494._o but_o write_v as_o the_o author_n himself_o tell_v we_o fol._n 61._o in_o the_o year_n 1458._o where_o he_o give_v we_o the_o argument_n of_o a_o jew_n against_o transubstantiation_n some_o of_o which_o i_o shall_v out_o of_o he_o faithful_o translate_v the_o jew_n 10._o jew_n vid._n l._n 3._o consid_fw-la 6._o sol_fw-la 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