Selected quad for the lemma: spirit_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
spirit_n	ghost_n	holy_a	lord_n	23,094	5	4.0162	3	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A03883	A treatise concerning the ground of faith. VVritten in Latin, by the reuerend Father Iames Gordon Huntley of Scotland, Doctour of Diuinity, of the Society of Iesus. And translated into English, by I.L. of the same Society. The second part of the second controuersy; Controversiarum epitomes. English. Selections	Gordon, James, 1541-1620.; Wright, William, 1563-1639.	1614 (1614)	STC 13997A; ESTC S118149	27,760	72

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barnabas_n do_v diwsge_n and_o promulgate_v every_o where_o as_o appear_v by_o the_o same_o chapter_n and_o the_o next_o follow_v where_o these_o determination_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v call_v decree_n or_o according_a 25._o to_o the_o greek_a phrase_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v to_o say_v thing_n already_o judge_v whereupon_o act._n 21._o vers_fw-la 25._o the_o apostle_n do_v say_v that_o judge_v and_o decree_a they_o have_v write_v this_o 24._o in_o the_o same_o manner_n in_o the_o next_o age_n the_o arian_n the_o macedonian_n the_o nestorian_n eutichian_o and_o other_o old_a heretic_n be_v judge_v and_o condemn_v by_o the_o catholic_a church_n in_o the_o general_a counsel_n hold_v at_o nice_a constantinople_n chalcedon_n and_o other_o 25._o last_o our_o adversary_n in_o their_o consistory_n and_o assembly_n do_v usurp●…_n unto_o themselves_o the_o authority_n of_o judge_n neither_o do_v they_o refer_v the_o judgement_n to_o the_o scripture_n alone_o or_o to_o the_o 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yea_o even_o in_o one_o psalm_n it_o be_v call_v above_o twenty_o time_n by_o that_o name_n 6._o moreover_o in_o the_o prophet_n isaiah_n in_o the_o same_o place_n false_o cite_v by_o our_o adversary_n that_o they_o may_v prove_v thereby_o the_o scripture_n to_o be_v the_o judge_n of_o controversy_n it_o be_v call_v a_o witness_n or_o a_o testimony_n and_o not_o a_o judge_n nay_o rather_o to_o the_o 20._o law_n say_v the_o prophet_n and_o to_o the_o testimony_n 7._o furthermore_o nothing_o be_v more_o absurd_a then_o in_o matter_n of_o such_o moment_n to_o appoint_v such_o a_o deaf_a and_o dumb_a judge_n and_o who_o may_v also_o be_v corrupt_v for_o both_o party_n and_o who_o sentence_n either_o party_n use_v indifferent_o but_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o the_o scripture_n be_v such_o a_o judge_n for_o it_o can_v neither_o speak_v nor_o hear_v and_o so_o in_o like_a manner_n do_v all_o heretic_n ancient_a and_o modern_a also_o use_v the_o scripture_n last_o almost_o all_o our_o adversary_n do_v see_v how_o absurd_a these_o thing_n be_v and_o therefore_o they_o fly_v unto_o their_o own_o private_a spirit_n the_o which_o they_o call_v the_o holy_a ghost_n wherfore-let_a we_o come_v now_o to_o the_o second_o point_n 8._o as_o concern_v therefore_o this_o private_a spirit_n first_o there_o be_v none_o who_o doubt_v but_o that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v the_o chief_a judge_n of_o all_o controversye_n but_o the_o question_n be_v where_o this_o holy_a spirit_n be_v to_o be_v find_v and_o in_o who_o it_o remain_v 9_o moreover_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n do_v not_o remain_v or_o be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o any_o book_n lest_o peradventure_o our_o adversary_n shall_v send_v we_o to_o their_o bibles_n but_o in_o the_o heart_n of_o the_o believer_n now_o we_o ask_v whether_o this_o holy_a ghost_n which_o be_v the_o judge_n of_o all_o be_v in_o the_o hart_n of_o every_o believer_n or_o rather_o in_o the_o hart_n of_o the_o whole_a catholic_a church_n if_o they_o say_v in_o the_o hart_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n we_o have_v our_o desire_n if_o they_o say_v in_o the_o hart_n of_o every_o private_a man_n it_o will_v follow_v that_o no_o private_a person_n can_v err_v in_o his_o own_o judgement_n see_v that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n can_v err_v in_o his_o judgement_n here_o true_o we_o seek_v for_o that_o judge_n which_o can_v err_v 10._o furthermore_o every_o private_a man_n shall_v be_v come_v the_o judge_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n if_o every_o such_o private_a person_n have_v this_o spirit_n which_o be_v the_o judge_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n whereupon_o there_o will_v ensue_v a_o great_a confusion_n in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n 11._o beside_o that_o if_o every_o believer_n be_v the_o judge_n they_o our_o adversary_n must_v needs_o admit_v the_o