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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A33979	A supplement to a little book entituled, A reasonable account why some pious nonconforming ministers cannot judg it lawful for them to perform their ministerial acts in publick solemn prayer, ordinarily, by the prescribed forms of others : wherein is examined whatsoever Mr. Falconer in his book called, Libertas ecclesiastica, and Mr. Pelling in a book called, The good old way, have said to prove the ancient use of forms of prayers by ministers : and it is proved, that neither of the two aforementioned authors have said anything that proveth the general use, or imposition of such forms of prayer in any considerable part of the church, till Pope Gregories time, which was six hundred years after Christ, nor in any church since the reformation, except that of England, and (which is uncertain) some in Saxony.	Collinges, John, 1623-1690.; Falkner, William, d. 1682. Libertas ecclesiastica.; Pelling, Edward, d. 1718. Good old way.	1680 (1680)	Wing C5343; ESTC R18940	53,644	120

complaining to Pope Adrian at the imposing of Gregory's Common-Prayer Book it should seem he liked some other possibly that which went about for St. Ambroses better but it seems the complaint ran so high that some Fathers just come from a Council met again to decide the matter spent a night in prayer having first laid both the Common-prayer Books that of Ambrose and that of Gregory on St. Peter's Altar to desire of God by some sign to shew which of those Liturgies he would have universally used In the morning they went in and found that of St. Ambrose lying in his place that of Gregory torn in pieces and scattered up and down From whence they concluded that it was the will of God that St. Ambrose his Office should lye still and be used only in his own Church Gregories should be scattered over the world And thus the Roman Mass-book which is one point in which we differ from the Papists was confirmed by a miracle too He that asked the question By what Common-prayer book the Fathers prayed that night when both their books were lockt up Might have remembred that we have heard of a Liturgy of St. Peter's only one would think that if he had been Bishop of Rome he might have been angry to have seen his Liturgy thrown out and one brought in patcht up by so many hundred years his Juniors especially having so much superstitious stuff in it which he never owned It may be it was for this he caused it to be torn so that night not enduring such trash should lye upon his Altar but then the Fathers were miserably out in their judgments upon the cause This is the truth as to the pretended antiquity of Liturgies and as to the imposition of them by Canon-law from 600 to 800 by Canon and Civil Laws 800 years after Christ § 15. In further proof of this I shall but offer what the Reader may see in Print and what I know to be true It pleased his most Excellent Majesty to grant his Commission out under the Broad Seal dated 25 March in the 13th year of his Reign to 12 Bishops and to divers others requiring them amongst other things to advise upon and review the Book of Common Prayer comparing the same with the most ancient Liturgies which have been used in the Church in the primitive and purest times c. The aforesaid Commissioners did so and being divided into two Parties the party which in some things dissented made this reply to that passage It is to be found p. 11. of the Printed account of their Proceedings Prop. 19. As to that passage in his Majesties Commission wherein we are authorized and required to compare the present Liturgy with the most ancient Liturgies which have been used in the Church in the purest and most Primitive times We have in obedience to his Majesties Commission made enquiry but cannot find any Records of known credit concerning any entire forms of Liturgies within the first 300 years which are confessed to be as the most Primitive so the purest ages of the Church nor any Imposition of Liturgies for some hundreds of years after We find indeed some Liturgical forms fathered upon St. Basil St. Chrysostome St. Ambrose but we have not seen any Copies of them but such as give sufficient evidence to us to conclude them either wholly spurious or so interpotlated that we cannot make a judgment wha in them hath any Primitive authority This Proposition was given in with the rest by these Divines to the rest of the Reverend Bishops and Doctors of Divinity who made the opposite party and it was not only signed by Dr. Manton Dr. Jacomb Mr. Calamy and many others but by the most Reverend and Learned Dr. Reynolds at that time Bishop of Norwich Here if ever the proof should have been produced of Liturgies generally used and enjoyned in the Church in the purest and most Primitive times Let us now see what Reply was made the Reader shall find it in p. 75. of the Printed account It is the 16 Section of the opposite Commissioners Reply in these words Sect. 16. That there were ancient Liturgies in the Church is evident St. Chrysostoms St. Basils and others and the Greeks tell us of St. James much elder than they and we find not in all ages whole Liturgies yet it is certain that there were such in eldest times by those parts which are extant Sursum Corda c. Gloria Patri c. Benedicte Hymnus Cherubinus vere dignum est justum c. Dominus vobiscum cum spiritu tuo with divers others Though those that are extant may be interpolated yet such things as are found in them all censistent to Catholick and Primitive Doctrine may well be presumed to have been from the first especially since we find no Originals of those Liturgies from ancient Councils This is all they say What was replyed to this is too large to transcribe the Reader may read it in the aforementioned Printed Account of the Proceedings p. 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83. But because every Reader may not have that book at hand I shall add a few words We know none will deny but that particular men might even from Christ's time have by them forms of Prayer either of their own composure or other mens but that from the beginning all Ministers in any Church were tyed to them that we deny nor can it be proved It cannot be proved that in the first 400 years there were any entire forms of Liturgy that the Ministers might before they began to pray say Sursum Corda Lift up your hearts or Dominus Vobiscum The Lord be with you and the people of course say And with thy Spirit are far from proving that there were any books directing them so to do It is known that the Doxology Glory be to the Father Son and Holy Ghost was not in any general use for more than 300 years after Christ In the whole Answer there is nothing to prove that for 500 years after Christ there were any such forms as all Ministers in any one Church or Province were commanded to use and to perform their Ministry in prayer by without varying from it But the Reader may at his leasure read much more in the Judicious Reply made by the Commissioners on the other side And if more could have been said upon this argument for the Antiquity of Liturgies it is not probable it would have been omitted by 12 Bishops and so many learned men besides several of which have since that time been made Bishops and some of them are so at this day § 16. Our Reverend Brother talks therefore at a great deal too high a rate when he tells us p. 110. of Forms of prayer embraced by the ancient Church whiles it retained its soundness and before the corruptions and distempers of the Church of Rome took place if by embraced he means used generally by all Ministers or commanded so to