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A second friendly epistle to Mr. George Keith and the reformed Quakers who are now convinced that water baptism is an ordinance of Christ ... / by the reformed Quakers old friend Trepidantium Malleus.
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Transgressors as well as we hardly doing their Work by halves And this will we do if God permit I. That John the Baptist and Peter the Apostle declare They Plunged not when they Baptized Luke says 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Luke 3.16 John said I Baptize you with Water So we well and truly and gramatically read the Text I Baptize you with Water He that cometh after me says the same holy Mouth and golden Oracle 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 shall Baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with Fire Now I thus Argue 1st He that saith He Baptizeth strickly and properly with Water doth here declare He Plungeth not into Water Is it Sense thus to say I plunge you with Water Now Luke leaves out the Preposition 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in this Verse therefore I cite this place principally Thus this great Schollar and Grecian and beloved Pllysician I have observed doth in this his Gospel and also in his Acts of the Apostles Acts 1.5 And he brings in Peter's Saying about the Baptism of Cornelius with Water without any Preposition 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 without 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Acts 11.16 Now here Peter and John embrace each other both disown here Plunging Who can construe this Greek Sentence 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 I Plunge you with Water No but as we do and they too I Baptize you with Water Now Luke wrote good Greek as well as Matthew that puts in the Preposition 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 yet he and others cannot be read I Baptize you in Water for this is common for with to give but one pregnant Example If any be so weak as to doubt it Ephes 6.2 Honour thy Father and thy Mother which is the first Commandment with Promise 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 so we well and truly read it Not the first Commandment in the Promise but with Promise for the Commandment was not in the Promise but the Promise in the Commandment But this is so common in the Greek Tongue that no Man that understands this rich and copious Language can doubt it But suppose the bare Phrase by it self were not so clear yet it becomes so by its connexion with the next words and therefore I put in here before for greater Security Now as John says I indeed Baptize you with Water He that cometh after me is mightier than I the Latchet of whose Shoes I am unworthy to unloose the same shall Baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with Fire I hence Argue thus II. John so Baptized with Water as Christ with the Holy Ghost and with Fire and Christ so Baptized with the Holy Ghost and with Fire as John Baptized with Water 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Now the Proposition 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is always put in here yet this cannot be read in or into but with the Holy Ghost and with Fire Now let us turn to Acts 2.1 2 3 4 5. ver c. In the days of Pentecost was this Promise fulfill'd And I pray all to lay aside Passion and read soberly and see what Light that may give in this case about the manner of John's Baptisin whether by Effusion or Plunging The House was fill'd with Wind but when When they were together in one place with one accord Now observe The Wind was poured on them not they drove or plunged into it and did this Wind reach any more than their Faces or visible Parts Our Plungers tell us The Water must touch all The Fire lighted on them or sate on them visibly Observe they were not thrown into the Fire were they I no more believe John threw his Hearers into the Water than Christ in the days of Pentecost threw those Believers into the Fire But that which puts the matter out of all doubt with me is Peter's citing the Prophecy of Joel with a Then was fulfil'd I will pour of my Spirit is mentioned twice 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 on your Sons and Daughters your young Men shall see Visions and your old Men shall dream Dreams This is another Proof by the way that Baptize signifys to pour Now you that are Baptized and you that are Dipt I pray you I adjure you soberly and in the fear of God laying aside Pride Wrath or Considence compare Mat. 3.11 and Acts 2.17 â—ead carefully The Promise and its Performance the Sign and this Thing signified John's Literal Baptisin and Christ's Spiritual Baptism and you may easily know how John Baptized with Water as Christ Baptized with the Holy Ghost and with Fire And this is said plainly as plain as words can make it That it was done by Effussion or Pouring not by Immersion or Plunging I may say as the Prophet Who is Blind as my Servant if you see it not For 1. Here is an excellent Analogy How improper had it been for John to fay I Plunge you into Water and Christ shall pour the Spirit and Fire on you Therefore in John's Baptism was there an Application of Water to the Persons not the Persons to the Water 2. We are not said to be applied to the Blood of Christ but the Blood of Christ to be applied to us Nor to be immersed into the Graces of the Spirit but they poured on us Therefore I take their Dipping to be Unlawful as well as Plunging the Difference I shall soon discover When we are said to be Baptized into one Spirit it speaks only of a Relation not Manner of a Thing as when a Man is said to be Baptized into such a Church by some Men tho by the way I understand not Mens being Baptized into such a particular Church and so ordain'd to such a particular Church only when they are Members of another Church must they have another Baptism And when some are Pastors on removal must they have another Ordination Into what particular Church was Paul the Eunuch or Jaylor Baptized into But not to digress But now the Canons are mounted up and roar Many Objections some think cannot be Answered about my Assertion of John s Baptism It is Objected 1st It is proper to say I Overwhelm you with Water if not I Plunge you with Water and the word Baptize may be translated to Overwhelm Yes if I pour Water on a Man or cover him this way with it I Overwhelm him with Water but if I throw him into the Water and not the Water on him I Overwhelm him in or into the Water 2dly But say others John Baptized 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 into ordain Mark 1.9 But Mark before ver 5. and Matthew say in Jordain as we read and that properly John I hope went into Jordain 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 was he plunged too This 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is many times only in not into Matth. 28.19 20. Go you therefore and teach all Nations Baptizing them in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost In the Name not into 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 with Mr. Ball 's Catechism leave and the Quakers Paraphrase to prove the Baptism to be Spiritual But is Spiritual Baptism the Work of Man No but of the Spirit And Water Baptism is the Work of Man But where is Spiritual Baptism or Sanctifying Work said to be into the Name of God O â—ard Phrase Other places may be urged when Occasion is Mark 1.9 shews John Baptized
Learning and of good Report Sound in our unhappy Controversies about Doctrinals and of untainted Loyalty think fit to appear I shall treat them with that Civility they deserve and I desire that Intimacy and dearness of Affection that hath been between us may continue if not it shall not be my fault I pray them follow if they appear my Arguments closely and trouble me not with Authors theirs or ours I care not what They say my Enquiry is what John says and what Men ought to say after him I hope in time to make it good at large if I must do it That John declares he plunged not because he said he Baptized them not Bapt But what I have done already is enough for once Now as Baptist Baptize and Baptism are derived from 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Baptize what woful Work is here for Men to usurp those words to themselves when they belong to us Now say I they being Plungers Vulgariter as before must have their Denomination from 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Bapto Then say I they are Bapts we are as Baptist they Bapt we Baptize they Plunge and have 〈◊〉 Bammism we Pour or Sprinkle and so have 〈◊〉 Baptism They that understand the Greek Tongue know I thus derive right in these new Names O my Dear VVord Baptist have I redeemed thee out of the hands of them that have led thee Captive VVelcom in thine own Place and Land I know some Plungers who are angry with their Brethren for calling themselves Baptist as â—f say they Pedobaptist were against Baptism or this Gospel-Ordinance A worse thing is it to call one another Brother on this evil Practice and not the best Men not so Some of the late Men are almost Sick of such Fooleries who are more judicious more humble more sober and I think every way better Men and Christions and fitter for human Conversation than the old Men. Some of them would lift up Eyes to Heaven if not Hands walking in the Streets who did this in the time of Christ They would where I lived in Prayer Preaching and Discourse say for Lord God Lard Gad c. Notes and Hourglasses Black Cloaths were Antichristian Things as well as our Baptism and Singing of Psalms and Ministers Maintenance Blessed be God many are much recovered Oh! that the Leprosy were throughly healed I pray them that are for that glorious Gosnel Institution of singing Psalms that moâ—â— resembles the eternal VVork in Heaven thaâ— any one Duty does on Earth to consider often and urge it to their Friends that call it Ballaâ— Singing Whether Singing be not a Duty mentioned in the New Testament distinct from Prayer Whether it must not be performed in ouâ— way or some other but they do it in no other Therefore let them in this Hath God appointed an impracticable Duty to tell us the Church hath been in Babylon and therefore the Harpâ— must be hung up That Singing and Praying are all one in the N. Testament and yet afteâ— all say The time is look'd for when a Brother may be moved to stand forth and sing a Hymnâ— according to the ancient way are strange Asserâ—tions and Contradictions I know many well meaning Bapts do believe the old Men more heavenly than these because many of them talk'd oftner of Religion who perhaps could talk of little else and not tolerably well of that But to return from this Digression If it be ask'd Is not Plunging practicable oâ— their Principles Or what would I do if of their mind Be not angry seeing you ask the Question I grant I am not bound to plunge immediately with my own Hands it is enough if iâ— be done mediately by a certain Engin what do we call it where troublesom Persons are put who would willingly come out as soon as they can and I would move it up and down by a Roâ—e How odious is it to see Men over-valuing things on Mistakes These Men have made as great an Idol of their Baptism as some Presbyterian Ministers have of the Assemblies Catechism that when they should-expound Scripture according to the Example of Ezra who read the Law and gave the Sense and is without all doubt the best way of Preaching better than Sermonizing it self They expound forsooth that Catechism when the Law and Prophets the Gospels and Epistles are never once expounded Expounding in Bp. Hall's way in his Paraphrase with some Observation after all in Willet's way and others would sooner be remembred when the Chapters were afterwards read alone or in the Family A suddain thought comes into my mind Mat. 3.11 He that cometh after me shall Baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with Fire Acts 2.17 That was pouring of the Spirit It is evident that Baptizing signifys Pouring or else the words are not true ANd now Mr Keith you see I have once more appeared for you I know most of you go to the Church of England some to the Anabaptist Love one another bless that God that hath pluck'd you all as Brands out of the Fire I know some of you despise the Anabaptist because of many of their ignorant Teachers I that know them declare First That I question not the Bishops have often ordained Men more Ignorant Secondly All Storys of the Anabaptists are not true If some hear a piece of Dunstical Divinity Oh! It is an Anabaptist presently when perhaps not so If it be ask'd How I came to be so favourable in this Controversy to them who have been so keen against two sorts of Men owning Infant Baptism and so my Brethren I declare I look on the Controversy about Water Baptism as nothing to that about Justification and Repentance I look on a Calvinistical Conformist and a Calvinistical Anabaptist more as Brethren than a Calvinistical and an Arminian Conformist are so or a Calvinistical and Arminian Anabaptist so I had rather any Man tore my Cloaths than my Body I declare I find not any such Ignorance among Anabaptist Preachers that are unlearned according to the Cry of it Mr. Benjamin Keach his late Book about the Change of the Sabbath was approved of by the Arch-bishop who desired to see him about it There are another sort of Men that make woful Work abroad I will divert you with a Comical Story I lately heard of two Men that set up for great Expositors of Scripture without Learning but I could never hear they were Anabaptists nor believe they were They applied themselves to a worthy Divine and told him of their Abilities this way and desired him to try them He asked them What Trades they were of One reply'd A Vintner the other A Taylor I hope said he I shall find you Men though not Scholars shall I not Yes Sir I pray Mr. Vintner when you broach a Butt of Wine what Bottles do you use My old ones I pray Mr. Taylor when you patch an old Garment do you not sometimes â—ut a new â—â—â—ce Yes Then said he I will prove by Scripture