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A65838	The authority of the true ministry in baptizing with the spirit, and the idolatry of such men, as are doting about shadows and carnal ordinances, and their ignorance of the spirits baptism (of which, water baptism was but a figure) discovered : and herein is shewed, that water baptism is neither of necessity to salvation, nor yet is it now practiced either by authority from heaven, or by any New-Testament-law that is in force upon believers, seeing the substance, and the end of things abolished is come and enjoyed, wherein the types, shadows and fingers, are ended : being a short return to a book entituled, A reply to a scandalous paper, subscribed by one Samuel Bradley, a Baptist teacher, as concerning a dispute that was between some of the people called Quakers, and some Baptists in South-warke.	Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723.	1660 (1660)	Wing W1892; ESTC R19780	16,493	18

Baptism is Commanded but the Baptizm of the Spirit was never Commanded nor was it any mans sin not so to be baptized therefore it cannot be meant the Baptizm of the Spirit and to this S. B. adds this Lye That we did not answer at al to this Argument Ans. This Argument is both False and Grounded upon a falshood and in it he hath confuted himselfe for mark that he hath owned That they lay no stress for Salvation upon water Baptizm neither is it of necessity unto Salvation But that Baptism which Christ Commanded in Mat. 28. and Mark 16. is of necessity unto Salvation for by it they were to Baptize men into the Name of the Father Son and holy Ghost Now without being Baptized into this Name a man cannot be saved for by no other Name under heaven comes Salvation but by the Name of Jesus who is a Saviour of the people from their sins Mat. 1. 21. Act. 4. 12. and Christ said he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved Mark 16. 16. So that there is stress or necessity upon this Baptism which Christ commanded for Salvation but so is there not upon water baptism as these Baptists confesse and therefore it was not water baptism but the spirituall baptism which was an effect of the Gospell which is the power of God which the Disciples preached for thereby they turned people from Darknesse to Light and from the Power of Sathan unto God which is known in the Baptism of the Spirit And the Baptism by which the Saints were saved was not the putting away of the filth of the flesh but the answer of a good Conscience 1 Pet. 3. 21. And whereas he saith That it was not any mans sin not to be baptized with the Spirit in this he hath spoken falsly for when men resist the Spirit of God and refuse to be led or baptized by it when it is tendred to them then it is their sin as it was the Lawyers sin to frustrate the Councell of God within themselves not being baptized of John when his Baptism was in its time a Command from heaven much more is it a sin in men now to resist the spirit of God and thereby to reject it's baptism S. B. If any should be so weak to say this baptism here viz. in Mat. 28. is meant the baptism of the Spirit I demand once more of them to shew me when and where the Disciples did obey this Command Answ. They did obey it when they Discipled and Baptised men into the Name of the Father Son and Holy Ghost when they Ministred the Spirit and turned men from darkness to light and a Testimony of this was manifest when the Holy Ghost fell on them that heard the Disciples Preach who were Instruments with whom God wrought when they had received power from on high and they were sent into the world as Christ was sent into the world Joh. 17. 18. who baptised with Fire and with the Holy Ghost and in the same Power and Spirit they went forth Preaching and Baptising people into the Word of God which is the Name of Christ Rev. 19. 13. And moreover Peter said as I began to speak the Holy Ghost fell on them as on us at the beginning then Remembered I the Word of the Lord how that he said John indeed baptised with water but ye shall be baptised with the Holy Ghost Acts 11. 16. which doth plainly evidence That that Power or Holy Ghost accompanied the Disciples Ministry that did so baptise men which was the end of Johns Baptism in which work the True Ministers were Instruments not of themselves but by Christ the power of God in them so that their Gospel went forth in Spirit and in Power S. B. We can prove that some were baptized with water after they had received the Holy Ghost Acts 10. 46. And if these poor Creatures were not hardned in their Apostacy how might such a plain example or instance as this ingage them unto obedience Answ. How poorly do these Baptists Argue for Water Baptism to Continue who having denyed any immediate Call or Authority from Heaven either to Preach or Baptise as this Baptist hath done now would make an Example a Law to engage us to be baptised when as there are many Examples that are no Lawes so that you may see these Baptists do not baptise by any Authority from Heaven and so serve not in the newness of the Spirit but meerly Act by Tradition and their Carnal Imitations without and then why do they not as well Circumcise keep the Passover Purify in the Temple all abstein from Blood and things strangled and command men to keep the Law and shave their Heads c For there are as plain examples for the observing and doing these things from some of the Apostles Command and example after that baptising with water was spoken of Acts 10. 46. see Acts 15. 2 6 7 20 16. 3. 18. 18. 21. 24 25 24. 18. and the Apostles example of observing these things for a time hinders them not from ending in Christ as S. B. falsly intimates that water baptism ends not in Christ because it was practised after his Assention in like manner might he as well have pleaded for Circumcision outward offerings purifying in the Temple the like to continue because they were practised after Christs Assention But as people who had a zeal for these outward Figures grew into the Substance and Life wherein they ended that they were able to bear the denying of them the Apostles Preached the end of them and refused to be in bondage to them again S. B. There be two things to be considered 1st That he must be a Teaching Disciple 2d No more is required but a Teaching Disciple Answ. Which is all one as if he had said the two things required is 1st a Teaching Disciple and 2d a Teaching Disciple what no●cense is here this is but one thing And again if no more be required but a Teaching Disciple then it is not required that a Disciple should baptise with water and thus he throws all his other Doctrines for the continuing of water baptism in the dust and confounds himself S. B. Let these men know that water Baptism is a lively Representation of the Death Burial and Resurrection of our Lord Jesus Answ. Where provest thou that S. B this is sure an Imagination of thy own for how can your plunging people in water be a lively Representation of the Death Burial and Resurrection of Christ sure you are not so long dead in the water when you are plunged in it as Christ was dead as concerning the flesh who was raised the third day by the Power of the Father and it is that power that baptised his people into his death and raiseth them up in the likeness of his Resurrection and not outward water touching which that which this S. B. hath affirmed it is as foolish as a Baptist Teacher's

saith They dare not Administer the Baptism of water unto any as fit Subjects of such a blessed ordinance as that is till they can perceive that they have and enjoy the Spirit of Adoption To this I say how doth this Assertion agree with some of these Baptists saying at the dispute as this S. B. hath also related That for people to make a visible confession of their faith is enough to entitle unto water baptism When as many can make such a confession of their faith who enjoy not the Spirit of Adoption being out of that Spirit And thus these Baptists Confound themselves one while saying that men must have and enjoy the Spirit of Adoption before they be fit Subjects for water baptism another while saying that a visible confession of faith is enough to entitle unto water baptism Which is like the Baptists saying that men must Repent and be baptized with water that they may receive the holy Ghost and for it they instance Act. 2. 38. and Act. 8. 16. Another while saying they dare not admit people to water baptism until they can perceive they have the holy Ghost or Spirit of Adoption and for that instancing Act. 10. 47 and thus we see their confusion and uncertainty which is like the Baptists one sort of them pleading for water baptism from John's baptizing others of them deny to plead for it from John's Baptism but set their baptism above John's saying as that they do it by the example of Christ's Disciples baptizing Joh. 3. 22. and 4. 2. And so they call their's Christ's baptism when as John's baptizing with water and the Disciples baptizing with water Joh. 3. was of one Nature or Kind and as it was a figure of the inward baptism so it had Relation to the State that was under the Law before the Adoption of Sons was attained to wherein the Redemption from the weak Elements which the world is in is known And in the time of John's Administring water baptism Christ had not fulfilled his Testimony upon Earth through suffering by which he blotted out the Hand-writing of Ordinances and Nailed it to his Cross that one new man in him and the Peace might be made which could not be done by John's Baptism nor such Types Figures and Shadowes for they being imposed since the Transgression entred and being changeable they do not reach the Seed which must inherit the Peace and the Promises but the changeable or earthly part in man which they have Relation to And did not all Types Figures and Shadows end in Christ the substance Again how should these Baptists perceive who do enjoy the Spirit of Adoption when they have no immediate Call or Authority from heaven to Preach and Baptize according to S. Bradley's confession From which it follows that these Baptists who have no Authority from Heaven to Teach or Baptize and who are altogether unworthy to engage in any work for Jehovah as S. B. is they do set themselves to be Teachers and Baptizers of such as they say have the Spirit of Adoption as if he had said they that have not the Spirit or Authority from heaven must be Teachers and Ministers to them who have the Spirit or Authority from Heaven and so in these things all may see their blindness and what a Babel they have Builded in their Confusion And now Samuel Bradley to Thee I say seeing that Thou art altogether unworthy to engage in any work for Jehovah and hast shewed thy ignorance so much touching the baptism of the Spirit having counted it Metaphoricall and hast set water baptism so much above it that thou hast accounted no baptism properly so called but that of water and hast not any Call nor Authority from Heaven to Preach or Baptize it 's high time for thee to be silent and proceed no longer in thy folly and intruding into things which thou hast not seen and cease from slandering us as thou hast done in many things which I have upon Record as also much more of thy confusion falshoods and absurdities I have herein omitted to mention Here are Samuel Bradley's Arguments which he hath made great account of for the continuance of water Baptism and an Answer to them Argu. 1. WHatsoever the Apostles were Commanded that they did practise but they were commanded to baptize with water and therefore they did practise it Answ. The Minor proposition of this Argument being grounded upon his supposed assertion that it was water baptism that Christ commanded in Mat. 28. Mark 16. It s already confuted and however it being Universall its false for Paul who was one of the chiefe Apostles was not sent to baptize with water but to preach the Gospell Argu. 2. That which was commanded by Jesus Christ the great Prophet of the New Testament and never repealed by him is still in force and to continue but water baptism never repealed by him is still in force and to continue but water baptism the Lords Supper with the rest of the institutions of Christ were commanded by Christ and never repealed by him therefore they are still in force and to continue Ans. I deny the minor proposition again so far as it relates to water baptism for where provest thou by Scripture that water baptism was commanded by Christ and never repealed by him certainly if it had been so commanded and never repealed by Christ but still in force it would have been in force by the same command upon the Apostle Paul but he saith the contrary 1 Cor. 1. Argu. 3. As long as teaching is in force and to continue so long is baptism in force but that teaching is in force and to continue to the end of the world all men will easily grant therefore baptism and all the rest of the Appointments of Christ the Scrpture saith expressely they are to continue to the end of the world Mat. 28. 20. Answ. The Major proposition of this Argument is false as the baptism of water is intended in it to be in force as long as teaching for teaching was of force where that baptism was not as Paul was a witness who was sent to the one not to the other also Teaching is of force to many who are not plunged in outward water and by true teaching are converted to Christ when there is no stresse for Salvation upon water baptism neither is it of necessity to Salvation as S. B hath confessed And where he concludes that baptism and all the rest of the Appointments of Christ are in force and to continue to the end of the World and for proof saith that the Scripture saith expressly they are to continue to the end of the world and quotes Matth. 28. and 20. I say this conclusion is as false as the major and herein hath he perverted the Scripture Math. 28. 20. For neither doth it expressely say that teaching and baptizing with water are to continue to the end of the world nor yet doth it prove water baptism a command

THE AUTHORITY OF THE True Ministry In Baptizing with the SPIRIT and the IDOLATRY of such Men as are doting about Shadows and Carnal Ordinances and their Ignorance of the Sprits Baptism of which Water Baptism was but a figure discovered And herein is shewed That Water Baptism is neither of necessity to Salvation nor yet is it now Practiced either by Authority from Heaven or by any New-Testament-Law that is in force upon Believers seeing the Substance and the End of things abolished is come and enjoyed wherein the Types Shadows and Figures are ended Being a short Return to a Book Entituled A Reply to a Scandalous Paper subscribed by one Samuel Bradley a Baptist Teacher as concerning a dispute that was between some of the people called QVAKERS and some BAPTISTS in South-warke Act. 11. 15 16. And as I began to speak the Holy Ghost fell on them as on us at the beginning then remembred I the Word of the Lord how that he said John indeed Baptised with Water but Ye shall be Baptised with the Holy Ghost 1 Pet. 3. 21. The like Figure whereunto even Baptism doth also now save us not the putting away of the filth of the flesh but the Answer of a good Conscience towards God by the Resurrection of Jesus Christ Ephes. 4. 5. There is one Lord one Faith one Baptism LONDON Printed for Robert Wilson at the Sign of the Black-Spread-Eagle and Windmil in Martins l' Grand 1660. The AUTHORITY of the True MINISTRY In Baptising with the Spirit and the IDOLATYR of such men as are doting about Shadows and Carnal Ordinances c. SUrely the said Samuel Bradley hath had time sufficient to have studied and brought forth far more sound matter than he hath done in his pretended REPLY it being above one year and a half since the paper touching our dispute went forth when as his pretended REPLY to it came but lately abroad as to our hands and exceeding darkly as a false cover to his folly and Confusion which so long since was discovered and reproved by the Spirit of Truth in us and in this his pretended Reply hath he often Reproached and belyed us called QVAKERS even in a time in which the foggy mist is risen out of the pit to darken the Air and the Sun also if it were possible and the multitude of slanders and lyes is gone forth against us and among them is this S. B. and his work found which shall return back to perdition who hath sought to guild and smooth over his former cause as if he thought we had either forgotten his former folly that he vented at the dispute or else that he did not intend that his work should come forth to the Light to be tryed he sending it so hidenly in manuscript among his hearers Therefore note his matter as followeth and seriously read the Answer Samuel Bradley the Baptist to the Reader sayes these words viz. I must needs write my self less than the least of all Saints and altogether unworthy to engage in any work for Jehovah much more altogether unworthy to engage in a work so weighty and so such publique concernment as this is Answ. Then its evident that this S. B. is not in Gods work but in his own work he being altogether unworthy to engage in any work for JEHOVAH so note that what he hath done both in his opposing the people called QVAKERS and in his writing against them was not any work of JEHOVAH but of his own done in darkness and the enmity of the wicked one against JEHOVAH and his work And what profit can you that are the hearers of the said Samuel Bradley reap from him since he is altogether unworthy to engage in any work for JEHOVAH as also the sequel hereof will further discover and this S. B. professeth himself to be a poor labourer in the Vineyard of Christ and in the service of the Lord and thus hath he played the hypocrite and confounded himself for how can he be either a Labourer in the Vineyard of Christ or a Servant of the Lord when he is altogether unworthy to engage in any work for JEHOVAH So it s plainly manifest that he is one of them that runs the Lord hath not sent him and one of the false prophets that steal the words from their neighbours and say Thus saith the Lord when God hath not spoken to them But all the true Ministers and Labourers in Christ Vineyard were in JEHOVAHS work which S. B. is altogether unworthy to engage in and therefore he had better been silent and have done nothing than have uttered so many words without knowledg as he hath done if he had been silent his folly had not so much appeared as it now doth S. B. saith I shall count it a mercy that God hath given me such a fit opportunity to contend for the faith that was once delivered by Christ Ans. In this hast thou S. B. spoken falsly for to contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the Saints is a work for JEHOVAH but thou art altogether unworthy to engage in any work for him as thou hast Confessed S. B. Those people who are known by the name of QVAKERS undertook to prove two things 1st That the Disciples of our Lord Jesus Christ were Commanded to Baptise with the Spirit 2d They undertook to prove that New Testament-Ordinances were abolished Answ. As for the former of these assertions upon the QVAKERS so called we did say something in order to it proved it also viz. That the Disciples of Christ were in his work and had power given them to Baptise people into the Name of the Father Son Holy Ghost which was with the Spirit as hereafter is further discovered And as for the latter of them its exceeding false for we never affirmed that New Testament-Ordinances were abolished nor undertook to prove it but we opposed the Baptists affirming water Baptism to be in force as a New Testament-Ordinance from Mat. 28. 19. when there is no water mentioned but Baptising them into the Name of the Father Son and Holy Ghost as it is in the Greek {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} into the name which Name Baptising or plunging people in outward water doth not Baptise men into for the outward baptism was but a figure of the inward baptism and so had relation to the Law and that state under it which had the Figures and Shadows and is not by these Baptists proved a New Testament-Ordinance as in force by any New Testament Law for New Testament-Ordinances as Preaching Praying Baptising into the Name and Body of Christ and other Ordinances which the Spirit of Christ leads to we own and are in the Life and Practise of them as Christ hath called us S. B. Water Baptism is an Ordinance of Christ still in force and to continue till the second coming and Glorious Appearing of our Lord Jesus Answ. Then in his pleading for Water Baptism to

affirming to me that the Baptism of water did baptise men into the death of Christ Again if what thou sayest were granted which it is not that which you Baptists do so greatly strive for in your contending so hard for water baptism which you trake such an Idoll of is but to bring people into a Representation of things which while there minds stick in that they come short of the Power and Life whereby the one baptisms into the body is known of which the outward baptismes at the most were but shaddows or figures which were to end in the Substance S. B. Where did the Disciples of Christ give the Spirit unto any seeing it was the work of Christ alone to baptise with the Spirit Answ. In Answer to this I alledged John 14. 12. He that believeth on me the works that I do he shall do also and greater works than these saith Christ and Gal. 3. 3 5. to prove that the Disciples Ministred the Spirit who were Ministers of the Spirit to this the Baptist Replyes in these words viz. S. B. I humbly conceive that some Scriptures are not to be taken litterally as they are laid down as for instance in the 13. verse of this Chapter it is said That whatsoever ye ask the Father in my Name that will I do yet God intends to give us the answer of no Prayer but that prayer that comes up according to his will Answ. If Christs Words in John 14. 12 13. be not to be taken as they are laid down as this Baptist plainly Intimates then from this it follows that Christ spoke not right or true and therefore this S. B. with his own conception who is but in his conceivings would amend or correct what Christ hath said and yet he hath no Authority from Heaven for it Who is it that will believe his deceit and absurdity herein again his Instancing Christs saying Whatsoever ye ask the Father in my Name that will I do as not to be taken as it is laid down and for his proof saying that God intends to give us the Answer of no Prayer but the Prayer that 's according to his will This also Implyes that Christ spoke not truly as if something the Disciples might ask in his Name which was not according to the will of God and which was not to be answered when as it was the Disciples of Christ that asked in his Name and they asking in that Name they asked in the Word of God Rev. 19. and this could not be contrary to the will of God Again the Baptist to prove that Christs words in John 14. 12. are not to be taken as they are laid down saith S. B. Christ speaks generally he that believeth on me the works that I do he shall do and greater works than these this cannot be understood in this sense that these men bring it for because there be some works that Christ did as he was the only Son of God which we cannot do Christ did perfect and compleat the work of Redemption for us by his death and Sufferings upon the Cross Rep. To this I say what a silly shift is this as also what falsehood is in it for Christ said these words in John 14. 12. That he that believeth on him should do the works that he did before he suffered on the Cross and how was the work of Redemption perfected or compleated by that his suffering for thee S. B. and such as thou art when you are yet in bondage to your sinnes and to the Spirit of delusion which leads you to pervert the Scriptures as thou hast done But hadst thou proved that Christs work of baptising with the Spirit or any work tending to lead to it was by Christ excepted as not to be done by them that believed on him then thou hadst done what thou aimedst at and desired to do but that thou couldest not do seeing thy folly is so greatly manifest already in thy assaying it S. B. If water baptism be an Indifferent thing it may be done or it may be left undone Answ. What is it else but an indifferent thing when there is no stress for Salvation laid upon it neither is it of necessity to Salvation as these Baptists Confess And how can water baptism be of absolute necessity to obedience as this Baptist affirms when he cannot produce any express Law or Commission in force for it for where there is no Law there is no Transgression and Paul who was not behind the very cheif Apostles whose Commission extended as far as theirs He was not sent by Christ to baptise but to Preach the Gospel S. B. If the Church of Ephesus was a Church of Christ in Gospel order than they were baptised with water and we must be plunged or dipped in outward water if we do intend to walk according to the Rule of Christ and the Pattern of his House Answ. So then this Baptist Judgeth all to be out of the Church of Christ and out of the Gospel Order and out of the Rule of Christ who are not plunged or dipped in outward water and thus he owns none to be of the Church of Christ or in Gospel Order but a company of Baptists and yet they lay no stress for Salvation upon their water baptism so that men may be saved without it Now then the People of God that are saved who are not plunged or dipped in outward water hath this Baptist judged to be none of the Church of Christ nor in Gospel Order as if the Gospel Order consisted in peoples being plunged or dipped in outward water or as if that were the way to bring them into the Church of Christ and yet men may be saved without it Oh! what confusion and darkness hath this Baptist about this uttered And as for S. B's accusing us with casting durt in the Face of Christ as he did and to be led into a desperate Condition for to fly in the very face of God in his Holy appointments To this I say besides the falsehood of these two charges upon us what absurdity is intimated in them which is as if our opposing their baptising with water which they have no Authority from Heaven for were a flying in the very face of God as if the face of God were in water baptism which he counts the Holy Appointment wherein he shewes that he never saw the Face of God for as the Lord is departed from water baptism since it was practised in mens wills without any Authority from God and it hath been and is made an Idoll of neither the Face of God nor his Power is seen in it and where the Face of God is seen there is a further State enjoyed then that state which the outward Figures Related to for there the thing that was figured forth is enjoyed but the Face of God they see not who are seeking it in Carnal or Shaddowy things for it is spiritually discerned with a Spiritual eye And whereas Sam. Bradley