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B09695 Railings and slanders detected: or The folly and heresies of the Quakers further exposed. Being an answer to an invective libel written by G. Whitehead, impertinently called, Antichrist in flesh unmasked, &c. which some of the Quakers call an answer to a book truly stiled Antichrist in Spirit unmasked: or, Quakerism a great delusion. In this brief discourse you have the slanderous out-cries of G. Whitehead, against Edward Paye, Henry Loader, and William Alcot, examined, detected, and confuted. Paye, Edw. (Edward) 1692 (1692) Wing P884; ESTC R181559 21,006 57

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present in Spirit they are obliged to Prayer and Fasting and all other Gospel Ordinances till his second personal and glorious coming But what the Quakers have to do with Ordinances Prayer or Fasting I see not 2. Neither is there Reason to believe you dare in your Assemblies in Christ's Name rebuke any unclean Spirits lest you meet with the same Answer and Repulse as the seven Sons of Sceva did Acts 19. 14 15 16. And the evil Spirit answered and said Jesus I know and Paul I know but who are you And the Man in whom the evil Spirit was leaped on them and overcame them c. And to conclude my Answer to his long Story I ask George Whitehead why he had not denied this Gesture of Quaking and Foaming to Mr. John Faldo who gives him Provocation enough to do it See his Book Quakerism no Christianity pag. 12. Saith he How generally were their Meetings viz. the Quakers either silent or taken up with sudden and violent Eruptions of dismal Howlings and horrid Ravings Persons suddenly taken as with the Falling Sickness shaking and foaming at the Mouth and some lying flat on the ground as if stark dead And saith Mr. Faldo some such things as these I have seen and heard and that there are undeniable Testimonies of it that are so numerous and notorious that though now they have almost if not altogether left the latter sort of them they dare not deny that it was so And if they dare to challenge this with an Untruth I may requite them to keep alive their Remembrance with a good part of a volume of them Thus far Mr. Faldo whose Book is signed and approved by 21 Ministers of the Independent and Presbyterian Way I needed not to have taken this Pains since these Gestures are fresh in the Memories of many in this Nation And George Whitehead hath said nothing that denies the Matter of Fact charged in my Books p. 6 7. upon the Quakers he denies not Quaking and Trembling which was all the Instance was brought for and then I think for any Service G. W. hath done the Cause he had better have said nothing 3. George Whitehead saith in p. 16. that I have falsely cited and grosly perverted the Quakers Words and Authors and taken many false things on Credit not only the Story from the Westmorland Petitioners but also out of his Brother Tho. Hicks his abominable Forgeries and Lyes in his factious Dialogues And in p. 8. He prays his Reader to observe that much of our Book against them is taken out of other Books and Pamphlets of their Adversaries long since answered and refuted and their Authority is utterly denied by us as the Westmorland Petitioners who were envious Persecutors Tho. Hicks his abusive Dialogues who was proved a notorious Forger of Lyes And a malicious Libel stiled Tyranny and Hypocrisie detected Answer I am inclinable to think G. W. hath said some Truth in what hath been repeated nay I do in Charity believe it then I will shew you what I believe he saith Truth in 4. Namely That the Authority of the Quakers Adversaries Books is utterly denied by them I am strongly persuaded G. W. saith Truth in this for they that can deny the Authority of the Scriptures being the only Rule of Faith and Practice when alledged against them may well deny the Authority of all Books wrote against them whatsoever tho' the Matter be ever so true 2. As to the rest asserted by G. W. I will not tell him he lyes But I am well satisfied he is departed very far from the Truth And as to that Book Tyranny and Hypocrisie detected It treats chiefly of the Usurping and Lording Authority that some of the Quakers assumed over others and of others opposing and contradicting them as might be made manifest And as to what instances I bring from that Book as Josias Coal's Letter from Berbaldus to George Fox giving him those blasphemous Titles mention'd Antichrist in Spirit unmask'd p. 43. or any other passage from thence cited by me let G. W. deny them as to Matter of Fact if he dare 3. As for Mr. Hicks his Dialogues that George Whitehead calls Lyes and Forgeries and the Author a notorious Lyer and Forger c. It had been much more to purpose had G. W. shewed us what some of those Lyes and Forgeries were I have it 's true examined the Quakers Appeal by way of Charge against Tho. Hicks wherein they charge him with Lyes and Slanders and Forgeries and what not and I have perused Mr. Hicks's Answer to their Appeal where Mr. Hicks clears himself both of Lyes and Forgery I find his Answer to their Appeal subscribed and approved by no less than 22 Persons of Credit who testifie that they have compared Tho. Hicks his Citations with the Quakers Books out of which they were taken and find them truly cited then let the Reader judge who is the Lyer Tho. Hicks or G. W. Again G. W. seems to be angry with my Citation out of Mr. Hicks's Dialogue p. 24 25. In Antichrist in Spirit p. 14 15. As for us had the Scriptures never been we could have known what is therein contained I have also heard this from a Quaker my self But G. W. was not so fair as to mention this though it was the ground of my Demand And let the Reader observe what an apparent Perversion George Whitehead makes of my Words and the occasion of them p. 18 19. of his Pamphlet after he hath charged us with Forgery Now pray observe saith he what strange Test or Proof your Agent Edw. Paye puts upon us to evince an immediate Inspiration G. W. knows this Question was demanded to prove what is before mentioned Namely that had the Scriptures never been they could have known what was therein contained Now if this be so then let the Quakers resolve me what those things were that Jesus did that are not written Joh. 21. 25. or what were the Contents of that writing on the ground Joh. 8. 68. Or else let their proud boasting of immediate Inspirations be condemned to perpetual silence c. Saith G. W. Hereupon you have passed unjust Judgment and falsely charged us with proud boasting and argued absurdly against immediate Inspiration as if none have the Spirit of Christ unless they know and can declare all things that it knows I answer It is a strange thing to me that G. Whitehead doth not see that he condemns himself whilst he is judging another and it is a lamentable thing that the Quakers will admit of no distinctions But it verifies that true Proverb that the want of distinctions are the cause of mistakes Here G. W. will not admit of a distinction betwixt immediate Inspirations and the mediate or more common Gifts of the Spirit Now all Christians that I know of will admit of this distinction That it is one thing to be immediately and extraordinarily endowed and inspired with the Holy Ghost as the Prophets and Apostles in their Prophecies and Writings were and another thing to have such common and more immediate Gifts and Graces of the Spirit that
are promised by Christ to them that obey him as a Seal of their present Acceptance and future Inheritance The use of these more immediate or common Gifts are to help our Infirmities and to bring to remembrance our Lord 's revealed Will in his Word Things that are secret and not written not at all belonging to us but to the Lord. But observe G. W's plain perversion of my Words First saith he as if none have the Spirit of Christ unless they know and can declare all Things it knows Do I demand of you to tell me all things that Jesus did or that the Holy Spirit knows You know I do not and then what an idle Evasion is this And because we pretend not to immediate or extraordinary Inspirations therefore we come short of being Christ's Ministers or Ambassadors and have shut our selves out from any share in the Spirit of Christ or Divine Inspiration and how then will you prove your Call to baptize People in Water Answer Then by G. W's Logick because we do not pretend to such immediate and extraordinary Inspirations as to know what had been contained in the Scriptures had they never been written We fall short of being Christ's Ministers or Ambassadors and have shut our selves out from having any share in the Spirit of Christ c. One that hath but his Senses would be inclined to think that this Consequence is much beside the Truth and yet if this be not true G. W. cannot imagine how we can prove our Call to baptize People in Water But to inform him in this Matter we have a sufficient Call for it from the Commission of Christ our great Prophet who is to be heard in all things Matth. 28. Mark 16. And the frequent Examples of the Apostles who admonish and exhort us to be Followers of them as they are of Christ and to keep the Ordinances as they were delivered so that we need not immediate Inspirations for our Call or Authority herein But I am persuaded G. W. hath made use of these many nonsensical Quibles to evade resolving the Question Now let him resolve me in some of those things that Jesus did that was not written and what was wrote on the ground And let him or any other Quaker do it either by a mediate or immediate Inspiration or Revelation And if they cannot do it then let their proud boastings of immediate Inspirations Revelations and Knowledge in things above what is written cease for ever c. And I shall still wait for an Answer Again p. 21. Saith G. W. To deem them Impostors that say Christ is within thee or them is to render the holy Apostles Impostors who preached Christ within the Word nigh in thy heart Rom. 10. 6 7 8. which therefore was not separate from them and only at a distance yea and to render themselves also Impostors who have confess'd the same Truth of Christ within referring to our Book p. 22 23 69. Antichrist in Spirit c. Which I refer the Reader to Answer Besides the gross Slanders that G. W. casts upon us it is a lamentable thing to see how miserably he abuseth the Text Rom. 10. 6 7 8. He only mentioning that part that he thinks is for his Turn The Word is nigh in thy heart leaving out In thy Mouth even the Word of Faith which we preach which the Apostle there explains thus If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead thou shalt be saved c. Can any thing be more clearly expressed ver 9. Yet G. W. will not distinguish betwixt the Word of Faith that the Apostles preached and the Object of Faith to whom this Word directs and because we cannot neither did the Holy Apostle understand the Word here to be Christ Therefore G. W. is so daringly confident that he charges us with rendering the holy Apostles Impostors and our selves also I shall spend no more time on this Particular but leave the impartial Reader to judge of G. W's gross perversion of this Text. And in p. 22. George Whitehead charges me with wronging and abusing them about the Titles of their Books as if higher than they give the Holy Scriptures perverting them by leaving out the explanatory part of the Titles And he Instances in H. Smith's Book A True and Everlasting Rule c. Being the first Part of the Title But I leave out the next following viz. from God discovered and for this here is a loud Out-cry of Wrong Abuse and Perversion c. I ask G. W. does those Words from God discovered added to The True and Everlasting Rule diminish the heighth of the Title You would persuade your Reader to believe so or else why do you quarrel at it The Title was higher than you afford the Scriptures before and one would be under a strong Temptation to believe that Addition makes it higher and not lower Now I would seriously ask G. W. when and how God made this discovery to H. Smith that the Scriptures are thus useless to guide in the ways of God and how can you profess in your Faith that the Scriptures are profitable for Doctrine Instruction c. since there is a sufficient Rule to guide in all the ways of God without them Again saith he we know none among us that call the Holy Scripture a dead or carnal Letter And p. 24. he puts us to prove that the People called Quakers or any Persons continuing in Society with them do say Mark that that the Holy Scripture is but a dead carnal Letter or that we so call the Doctrines or Testimonies contained in them Answer what may not the Quakers prove or deny at this rate There are these Difficulties proposed First we must be sure the Persons do at this moment continue in Society with the Quakers Secondly that they do now in the present Tense say The Scriptures are but a dead or carnal Letter and this is not enough if this be done For by Scriptures they do not mean the Writings or written Words of the Old and New Testament but Faith Repentance Holiness c. p. 22. Though the outward Letter or Writing in it self alone be dead And saith G. W. now I leave the Reader to judge whether he doth not own the Charge And if he will deny that any approved Quaker did ever whilst so call the Scriptures a dead and carnal Letter let him do it if he dare Having followed G. W. in answering his impertinent and absurd Evasions I shall give the Reader a Breviate of the sweet convincing Language the Quakers use to treat their Antagonists withal And first I shall begin with Tho. Lawson in his Book against William Jefrey Thou Image-maker thou Cockatrice hatching Eggs Vultures Eye and this because William Jefrey said Christ was ascended
with that Body that God raised him from the dead again Thou Heathen because W. J. said the Will of Christ was made known by the Scriptures Thou Lyer Bundle of Lyes thou Esau selling thy Birthright a Mute for the Night-birds Cormorants Bitterns Owls Ravens Dragons wild Beasts Satyrs Vultures Screich-Owls and that because W. G. said that the Saints have not the glorious Kingdom in possession but by promise This for Tho. Lawson the Quaker in his Book against W. Jefrey c. I shall again mention Famous Edward Boroughs in his Answer to Mr. Bennet's 20. Sober Questions as appears in Boroughs Works in Folio from p. 29. to 34. a Breviate thereof take as followeth Thou Reprobate and Child of Darkness the Light condemns thee and thy Generation eternally We Witness thee to be in the Sorcery and Witchcraft Thou art darkness it self thou Dragon thy Queries are conjured in the Black-Art out of the bottomless Pit thou Diviner we Witness thee to be the Beast that Wars with the Lamb thou Antichrist that lookest at Christ's death at Jerusalem alone thou art seen with the Light and with it condemned thou blind Pharisee and Blasphemer thou Jesuit art thou pleading for a Christ afar off thee thou art under the Woe and from that Woe thou shalt never fly Let all People see whether thou be not a blind ignorant Sot Here thou replyest thy sottish Questions concerning the Body of Jesus as the Devil did about the Body of Moses Thou disobedient one upon whom God will render Vengeance in flaming fire thou art Accursed thou Beast to whom the Plagues of God are due upon whom the Wrath of God must be accomplished thou art shut out from God for ever thou blind Hypocrite thou dark sottish Beast thou polluted Beast And much more to this purpose you will find in the Book and Pages of Edward Boroughs the Quaker aforesaid Now is it not hard to believe the Testimony the Quakers give of this Man namely that he was a Faithful Servant and Prophet of the Lord And yet he thus Sentences a Man to Woe and Condemnation for ever and that for asking some sober and serious Questions Take also a Breviate of Mr. Penn's sweet Language to Mr. Faldo in Answer to his Book Quakerism no Christianity See Mr. Faldo's Reply to Mr. Penn's Answer p. 93. Saith Mr. Faldo I shall rake but into one of your Books for the following good Language and leave large gleanings of all these lovely Titles and Eipithets you afford me and my Work ' Behold you Priest failable errable Priest scoffing independent Priest ungodly Priest busie Priest cavilling Priest over-doing Priest Antichristian Priest Mountebank Priest this taunting Priest stingy Priest mercenary John Faldo a Quack a Religious Bone-setter the Priests break-neck the Priest and his Poppit-play Doctrine vaunting strutting John Faldo insolent Vilifier ignorance or malice it self our malignant Adversary John Faldo ignorance malice and revenge black as Hell it self in malice impious scoffs impudence strange impudence the impudence of his wickedness sordid pedantry he vomits his Scriptures he brings no more to purpose than Toby and his Dog a Doctrine of Devils a lye a lye to be sure a very lye devilish falsities a downright lye an errant lye a wicked lye the last great lye of his second part of lyes a wicked lye minted out of Hell Mr. Penn ' s Answer to Mr. Faldo p. 43. 65. 79. 64. 109. 117. 140. 208 210. 74. 107. 116. 40. 46. 110. 157. 204. 213. 214. 203. 215. And much more that follows being more general Railings and Reflections 4. Take a Breviate also out of this small bundle of Railery written by G. Whitehead against Edward Paye Henry Loader and William Alcot thus sweetly worded The Envy and Bitterness they are maliciously envious against our present Liberty as Men of a turbulent persecuting Spirit they have grosly belyed us in their bitter lying invectives their envy and bitterness is carnal blind and dark these envious turbulent Teachers in their rage and railery Lord deliver every well-meaning person from you and your Envy such malicious Preachers as these Anabaptists who as persons possessed with a lying unclean Spirit are now still foaming out their own shame and malice their work of malice and falshood in their puff'd-up envious Flesh they have grosly belyed us and do charge us with this horrid lye your shameful lyes you have grosly belyed us you have diabolically and foully foamed out your own shame and envy as will appear that the foaming unclean Spirit and lying Devil is not cast out of you the unclean lying Spirit that possesses you such gross forgeries horrid and abusive forgeries a gross lye O blind Guides self-contradicting and self-condemning Hypocrites you are blind Guides they are gross notorious old lyes Woe unto you lying Hypocrites Antichrist in Flesh c p. 5. 6. 7. 9. 10. 11. 15. 16. 17. 18. 20. 21. c. And more such stuff as this Now doth not this make it manifest that the Quakers are no Changlings But is it not strange that these people that call themselves God's Lambs should act so like raging Bears and when endeavours have been used to still their ragings many times their Answer hath been as Tho. Lawson to Will. Jefery Dost not thou know the Saints shall Judge the World they being the Saints and all they condemn the World Take a Breviate of some of the Quakers Profession of Faith The Quakers Profession of Faith Q. What 's your Belief concerning the Blessed Trinity as our Term is Answer Our Belief is that in the Unity of the God-head there is Father Son and Holy Ghost being those 3 Divine Witnesses that bear Record in Heaven the Father the Word and the Holy Spirit and that these three are one according to Holy Scrip. Testimon The Quakers Contradictions of this Faith 1. Respecting the place where these Divine Witnesses are or what Heaven they intend 2. How it appears that they own the Humanity of Christ 3. How it can be that they own Justification by Christ briefly examined Smiths Primer p. 9. They that are false Ministers Preach Christ without and bid people Believe in him as he is in Heaven above Swor'd of the Lord p. 24 your carnal Christ is utterly denied by the Light your imagined God beyond the Stars J. Pernel's Satans design discovered p. 19 25. saith That by Preaching Christ in Heaven the Devil gets his work done on Earth as Tho. Lucock being asked by W. J. where that Heaven was into which Christ Ascended He answered claping his hand on his Breast saying within me within me so that the Heaven the Quakers intend is within them in their corruptible bodies The Quakers Profession of Faith Q. Do you believe the Divinity and Humanity of Jesus Christ the Eternal Son of God or that Jesus Christ is truly God and Man Answer Yes we verily believe that Jesus is truly God and Man according as the Holy Scriptures testifies of him God over
the Lord c. urgeth many Scriptures to prove their Name by justifying this practice saying That holy Men of God do witness Quaking and Trembling c. Now what is this but a plain granting all that I bring the Instance for I say the same may be said of wicked Men and Devils But this is therefore no discriminating Character of Christianity or Saintship For Acts 24. 25. wicked Felix did tremble And James 2. 19. It is said the Devil believes and trembles And Luk. 9. 39. we read of him that was possess'd that he foamed c. But G. W. asks whether we were Eye or Ear-witnesses of these Gestures He answers in the Negative No. But how can G. W. tell but we have seen such Gestures amongst them for my own part I have seen them quake and foam at the Mouth Besides several that have been Eye and Ear-witnesses of 〈◊〉 But saith G. W. You had this from the Westmorland Petitioners And what were they but a Company of envious persecuting Priests and Magistrates Answer no doubt but this is the best Language you can afford any that give the clearest Demonstrations of your corrupt Notions and deceivable Gestures Then observe what a long run G. W. takes after his own shadow and then falls a fighting with Men of Straw of his own setting up Saith he We deny your Story of Swellings and Foamings as charged upon us or our Meetings in Westmorland c. Answer then you do not deny Quaking Trembling and Roaring so that there remains as much and more undenied as the Instance is brought for as any may see in Antichrist in Spirit p. 78. Again you say your Meetings in Westmorland are clear of it I ask George Whitehead do I say that you and your Meetings in Westmorland did use to swell and foam Is there any such thing said or asserted that you swelled and fo●med there Suppose you formerly used to q●●●● tremble roar swell and foam at the 〈◊〉 Mouth in London or elsewhere the Westmorland Petitioners may say true for ought we say in our Book or for any thing you have said yet But I challenge you to deny if you dare that such Gestures were used amongst you formerly Again I shall follow G. Whitehead a little further in this his impertinent long run which he makes a material part of the Bundle of Stuff in his slanderous Libel Saith he p. 13. Set Case any have been disordered through some natural Infirmity Distemper Swouning or Falling Sickness What doth this affect us or our Meetings on a religious Account it may be some of your own People's Case Answer It is strange to me that G. W. an old Stickler for Quakerism should think to put off the Matter of Fact with such an Equivocal Gloss Do you think that such natural or transient Infirmities that are insident to Men were the occasion of the Westmorland Petition and other Charges of the same Nature or of what I and many others have seen Surely if you think so no body else will And how impertinent is your next Supposition Say you suppose it should be made appear that divers Anabaptists after they have been dipp'd and received into Church-Fellowship have run mad or distracted and others guilty of great Enormities how would this affect either your Church-profession or Societies p. 14. Answer you speak here to none of us the Name Anabaptists we never owned procured or defended as you have done your Quaking And although James Nailor justified your Quaking and Trembling yet here in p. 11. say you Quakerism is a Nick-name in Derision and James Nailor in the Title Page of his Book stiles himself one whom Ishmael's Brood calls a Quaker Pray then what is G. W. who so frequently calls us Anabaptists Is not he one of Ishmael's Brood according to his own Doctor 's Opinion And since the Name Anabaptists belongs not to us First I answer thus that if any have submitted to Christ's sacred Ordinance of Baptism and are received into Church-Fellowship c. and after this shall turn Anabaptists and provoke God thereby he may in Justice deprive them of their Senses and give them up to enormous Acts. Now since you are not ignorant that the Name Anabaptists belongs not to us this might serve for an Answer to your impertinent Supposition But suppose some Members of the baptized Churches or any other Christian Societies have so done we believe God can at his pleasure deprive of Senses and Understanding And we also believe that the truest Professors if they have not a constant care and watch may Apostatize and run into great Inormities But what is this to your frequent Gestures of Quaking Trembling and foaming in your Meetings formerly I confess there may be something in it if you will say that all that used those Gestures amongst you were mad and distracted Men and Women But 't is like you will be cautious of saying so it having been so frequent amongst you lest any should be so maliciously untoward though it may be very natural as to conclude that Quakerism was first founded and carried on by mad and distracted Men and Women for they quaked trembled and foamed at the Mouth c. Again I shall take notice of one more of your impertinent Suppositions after mentioning Mark 9. 20 25 26. and Luke 9. 39 42 43. About the Man that was brought to Christ who was possessed and the Spirit tore him and he fell on the ground and wallowed foaming c. now suppose saith G. W. That in any Meeting of the People called Quakers such Apparitions or gestures has been he will not own it to have been frequent no but in any particular person that some unclean Spirit hath so torn or disordered her or him now observe the Inference we may charitably believe it has been because Jesus Christ has come in Spirit and Power amongst them to rebuke and cast out such unclean Spirits and to deliver them that were infested thereby when our Friends have been solemnly met together in Fasting and Prayer in his Name and fear to wait upon him and worship him c. Answer I would first ask G. W. what Rule or Reason the Quakers can assign for Fasting my Question is grounded upon Matth. 9. 14. Then came to him the Disciples of John saying why do we and the Pharisees fast often but thy Disciples fast not v. 15. Jesus said unto them can the Children of the Bride-Chamber mourn as long as the Bride-groom is with them but the days shall come when the Bridegroom shall be taken from them then shall they fast Now I ask you by what Rule you observe days of Fasting since you really believe that Christ the Bride-groom is really with you among and personally in you Methinks it's strange that you should talk of Fasting that is a Duty in cumbent upon such as believe Christ's Personal Ascension into the glorious Heavens above beyond the Stars so that he being personally taken from them though