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A93431 Some queries propounded to this professing generation the people called Baptists, or any of the professors upon the earth for them to answer, and heedfully to weigh and consider Smith, William, d. 1673. 1659 (1659) Wing S4331; ESTC R229335 9,565 10

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name of the Father the Son and the holy Ghost marke it was in the name and in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and by the spirit of our God were the Saints sanctified washed and cleansed which were sometimes uncleane with the washing of water by the word but what is this to you all this while that run from the word within into the water without you for w●shing when there is no mention made of water outwardly and would be found setting up your selves in the Apostles seat and seem to be found doing their worke when as they though they had a Command yet stirred not untill they were indued with power from on high But you have neither the Apostles command nor yet their power therefore your work is your own who required it at your hands what have you to do with their worke or set your selves in their seat that are out of their life and power when he that was in the life and in the power and one with them declares he was not sent to baptise AND is that which you are so much pleading for and contending about and would have held up any more then elementary and therefore to be dissolved the time of it's dissolution must come for are not the elements to melt with fervent heat and is that which is to be melted and must come to it's dissolution worth while so much to be contended about laboured after and and wrangled for while you are so doing do you any more then spend your mony for that which is not bread and your labour for that which satisfieth not For what satisfaction hath your many years travell ministred unto you being from that which gives the satisfaction not harkening diligently to the Law of God which restoreth the soul which law is light that your souls may live and so are striving and contending about the Commands and not yet come to know the Commander Christ the light of the world the Saviour thereof who was given for a leader and Commander 〈◊〉 the people who lighteth every man that cometh into the world and talking about ordinances and are not yet come to the Fathers house being from the light and not walking in it whe●● with Christ hath enlightened you for God who is light dwelleth in the light which you yet manifest your selves strangers unto therefore first come to the house and then you shall know the ordinances of the house the out-goings and in-comings thereof for is not that first necessary to be known or how many things doe you make necessary unto life and salvation BVT if you have been in the water and done the thing you are so much contending about are you alwayes to stick there come on to perfection for if you stand in the elements and keep your station there when will you come to perfection or be perfect as Christ commanded his to be Is that which stands in meates and drinkes outward observations and carnoll ordinances able ever to make perfect as pertaining to the conscience to make the comers thereunto perfect if not why strive you so much to have people come unto it Ought you not rather to bring people to Christ the lightithat doth increase to grow up in the increase of God then to keep people out of it and neither come to it your selves nor suffer them that would that keep them in a talk of that which doth decrease or will that ever bring you to perfection or make you perfect which doth decrease and perish with the using Gods Kingdome is within which the light within leads again into without which the entrance cannot be found Or the way to the Kingdom discovered which is the first thing to be sought after MAny shall strive to enter but shall not be able such are not turned to the light who are the unable wherewith Christ hath enlightened them who is able to save to the uttermost all that come unto God by him Heb. 7.25 Mans ability is lost or strength to get in for whosoever findeth the strength he hath found the power of God in which the strength is in which is everlasting strength And nene taste of the power of God and receive it but who beleive in the light and receive it wherewith Christ hath enlightened them who is the true light of the world and lighteth every man that cometh into the world that all through him might beleive and who beleive in the light and receive it wherewith they are enlightened to them he gives the power such have the power given unto them to them ability is given to enter and strength to get which is found in the power that is given unto them who are turned to the light and it receive which cometh from Christ to whom all power in heaven and earth is given For in the fall and driven out state man hath lost the power he hath lost the strength to get in his ability is lost and is become weake he cannot enter for the flaming sword at Edens gate turneth every way to keepe the way of the tree of life soe that there is no entrance in but through the death to the life to come to the tree of life And mans willing and running availes not his striving cannot get in it is only the tender mercy of God availes which is made manifest in the light of his Son where the mercy comes to be shewed the light sheweth it which lighteth every man that cometh into the world which is only able to bring man in again for man in his willing and running obtains not his willing cannot get in but waiting in the light receiving it and being turned to it wherewith he is enlightened he comes to find a grafting in again upon the right stock juice and body naturall the light sheweth wherein the tender mercy of God is found that brings man in again without his willing running and striving Therefore all yee professors disputers and people who cannot say this you have found the ter der mercy of God unto your soules wait in the light wherewith Christ you hath enlightened and turn to it that sheweth it Come to the search for he that seeketh findeth keep to the light which is the eye wherein the tender mercy of God is seene the light sheweth it whereby the entrance comes again to be found in the light stand still come to stillnesse coolenesse quietnesse in your own spirits out of all heats buslings and strivings for that obtains it not it doth not give the entrance in stand still in the light and will nothing that sheweth the mercy be silent out of your own thoughts and comprehensions or reachings out and wait to be gathered in in the light wherewith Christ hath enlightened you for all flesh is to be silent before the Lord God and you kept on the watch waiting in the light and obedience thereunto the entrance in again will find which is out of your own willing and runing and only of God that sheweth
of him when he bids do one thing and you to do another ARE such leaders then to be followed that lead people out of Christs doctrine or are they not rather to follow him who was given for a leader unto the people to see what he will lead them into then to receive things by tradition to doe this or the other thing because others have done it before IS there any coming to the Power but by the light and receiving it wherewith Christ hath enlightened every man that cometh into the world which John bare testimony off and said to as many as received him to them he gave power to become the Sons of God AND whether it be bodily exercise that profiteth or can profit or what have you more then bodily exercise in your outward observation is that any longer then to be followed that profits not but perisheth with the using AND doth not Christ say the flesh profiteth nothing and yet your eyes are abroad after a fleshly Christ when as the Apostle saith though I have known Christ after the flesh henceforth know I him so no more IS not all your knowledge then unprefitable and brutish that you know naturally and fleshly and what would it profit you if you did know more of that which is naturall and fleshly what would it tend unto unlesse to puffe you up more and to feed your curious minds and so feed upon that which is carnall and that dyes of it selfe and is it not hence that you call the light carnall BVT if you would be knowing then come to that which must give you the knowledge the light that shines in your hearts which convinceth of sin and evill or is there any other thing can give the knowledge of God and of his glory but the light that shines in the heart is that then carnall or is Christ spirituall and his light carnall or is Christ divided IF that light be a carnall or a naturall light which convinceth of sin and evill which then is the spirituall Is that carnall or naturall that must open the understanding in the things of God or doth the natural man perceive the things of God or are they not foolishnesse unto him or can man discerne the things of God with the carnall eye the evill eye or with that which is at enmity with him AND do not you shew your selves to be the naturall man that perceives not the things of God that can see no farther then with a carnall eye and so think Christ to be such a one as your selves and call the light carnall and naturall that comes from him But that which quickens or awakens man sleeping in the dust of the earth is that carnall or naturall that comes from the quickening spirit the Lord from heaven WHen Christ was made manifest in the flesh did the world know him then was he not hid from the carnall and naturall men from the disputers and wise ones then as he is now for were not they the persecuting and carnall Preists and professors that rise up against him then OR doth it not shew you to be carnally minded that dare call the light carnall that must give again the knowledge of God and is not the only true God a spirit and is there any knowing of him but in that which is spirituall CAN you call that carnall or naturall which convinceth of sin and evill in the secrets of the heart and conscience and bears witness against the carnall inclinations of fallen man and against his fleshly desires OR is that a carnall Christ that condemneth sin in the flesh and testifieth against that which is fleshly and carnall the lusts of the eye the lusts of the flesh and pride of life which is in the world whose works are evill AND what doe you judge of the water that purifieth the heart and washeth it and purgeth the conscience from dead works and the pure water that cleanseth the body is that outward and carnall that sprinkles the heart from an evill conscience seeing the Saints who were washed and cleansed did not say they came through it by outward water or that which was carnall and naturall but in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and through the spirit of our God and the true Church gathered out of the world up again unto God was in God and so it is now and in our Lord Jesus Christ and God was in them this Church was sanctified and cleansed with the washing of water by the word IS your Church then any other than worldly and outward that outward water can cleanse it and are you yet come any further than the outward Court that dwell in the outward things when as the true Church though a time was for the use of the visibles said we looke not at the things which are seen for the things which are seen are temporall but the things which are not seen are eternall Therefore you that can see no further then that which is visible but stand alwayes in it doth it not shew that your eye is not yet open which should let you see the invisible things AND your Church as you call it which stands in the outward washing and so without is it not full of spots blemishes and wrinckles and many such things but the Church of the first born according to their growth in the measure of grace received witnesse washing and cleansing and are cleane through the word presented without spot or blemish But they whom the outward water washeth are they cleane seeing no uncleane thing must enter if so whether the vilest and wickedst men upon earth may not go into the water and be washed and cleansed as well as you if that an outward washing will serve the turn or are they yet come to the cleansing who are vain light wanton scoffing and given to foolish laughter yea or nay BVT if you say that John did baptise with water and many were baptised with water so did Paul circumcise but what is that to you you have it by tradition John had a Commission for so doing who saith he was sent 〈◊〉 baptise with water but to whom hath God given or Christ given since him commission to baptise with water make it appeare if you can by plaine proofe of Scripture Paul declares plainely who himselfe was an Apostle that be was not sent to baptise who sent you then and said the baptisme is one and who come through this one baptisme by the one Spirit into the one body are one but who are after the many baptismes are not in the onenesse neither is there true unity one with another AND the other Apostles before him were bid to go forth into all Nations and teach them but are you come forth into this worke yet seeing you will pretend to take a part of it upon you why do you not go through with it and t●e● whom they had taught he doth not say they were to be baptised with water but in the