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A89682 An apology for the service of love, and the people that own it, commonly called, the family of love. Being a plain, but groundly discourse, about the right and true Christian religion : set forth dialogue-wise between the citizen, the countreyman, and an exile : as the same was presented to the high court of Parliament, in the time of Queen Elizabeth; and penned by one of her Majesties menial servants, who was in no small esteem with her, for his wisdom and godliness. With another short confession of their faith, made by the same people. And finally some notes & collections, gathered by a private hand out of H.N. upon, or concerning the eight beatitudes. Niclaes, Hendrik, 1502?-1580? 1656 (1656) Wing N1122; Thomason E1610_1; ESTC R210332 24,412 73

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his And the mighty God from whom all good doth proceed shall through his Christ claim unto him all godlinesses or vertues which are proceeded from him together with all whatsoever separateth it self from the iniquity hath handfast it self or held fellowship with the godlinesses all those as incorporated members to the godlinesses and godded or spirited with God in one spirit shall go to God again and shall reign with God and Christ soul and body in the kingdom of heaven and live in joy everlastingly It is very true Citizen But is there not some Predestinate unto preservation and again some predestinate unto condemnation as also elected thereto from the beginning Exile Yes verily there are two with their members that are predestinated or preordained thereunto from the beginning The one is Christ the man of God predestinate unto preservation and with him all his incorporated members The other is the man of sin Antichrist predestinate unto condemnation and in him all his incorporated members As for any other predestination then this come it out of Turkey or else where I know not of it Citizen Thou hast told me the truth and also fully answered me to all things natural and spiritual which I have demanded of thee What shall I ask more God be merciful unto us and unto all such as err of ignorance and give them eys of understanding and ears of pure hearts that they seeing in what estate they yet do stand and hearing also which is the right way to come out might repent them turn from their wickedness believe rightly and so come to the knowledge of truth and be saved Amen Now Countrey-man thou hast heard this fellow and his wonderful answers what sayest thou to it for I am almost at my wits end and marvellously astonied Countrey-man Doubtlesse Citizen he is in great Heresies and misbelief or else I may tell to thee in counsel in any of the learned in these days are far out of the way that leadeth to life and also ignorant of the ground of the heavenly truth wherefore I think it not amiss that thou examine him concerning his belief in God the Father in Jesus Christ the Son and in the Holy Ghost the Comforter and whereupon he hath grounded his Religion how he came by this understanding what he thinks of our learned Preachers in these days as also of other matters as thou shalt think meet lest haply we might be seduced through some subtil heretick infidel or disobedient person which perchance might be against the Queens Religion or else pretended to bring confusion over the Land Citizen Thy counsel is very good but then I pray thee rather talk with him thy self for I am brought into such a trembling perplexity and sorrow of heart since I have heard him and that as well for mine own cause as also for others which I yet see going astray that I dare ask no more questions Countrey-man Very well then I will talk with him my self Come hither Exile shew us I pray thee whereon thy belief and thy religion standeth grounded Exile I protect before God and man That my belief is in God the Father in Jesus Christ the Son and in the Holy Ghost the Comforter and is grounded on the Faith of the Holy Fathers Prophets and Apostles mentioned in the holy Scriptures also according to the common Apostolick Creed the Creed of Athanasius and the Nicene Creed to even so far forth as I may obtaine grace and power thereto of the Lord. Secondly I acknowledge there is no other way or mean either of remission of sins or of salvation for us to be had or yet mercy to be obtained at Gods hand but alone in by and through the death passion and resurrection of Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour And that he hath offered once for all upon the Altar of His Cross a full perfect and sufficient sacrifice and oblation for the sins of all the whole world Thirdly I do acknowledge that none shall be partakers thereof but only such as upon the publishing forth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ do shew forth an unfained repentance for their sins past and walk in new obedience or in a new life according to the requiring of the Gospel also such as believe aright in God and Christ and are even so baptized into the death of Christ Such as are regenerate of the water and of the spirit and forsaking themselves and their own lives do take up their cross on them and follow after Christ in death and sinful lusts and desires and so stand as those that are waking and waiting for the coming of their bridgroom ready prepared having both oyl in their vessels and light in their Lamps Such as love God and his Christ and as his very disciples keep his Commandements and walk in all love towards God and their neighbour and in all dutiful submission and allegiance towards their Governors and also live obediently under all their manly Ordinances And finally such as in whom Christ liveth and dwelleth or those that incline themselves under the obedience of the love of Jesus Christ and of his holy word with all diligence thereunto Now as touching my Religion this I say so often as I call to mind and consider the great love and kindness of God the Father shewed on me unworthy one in that he hath created me like unto his own Image and given me also his Law for that I might live therein And which is much more hath out of his meer love and mercy and of our part undeserved sent his sonne Christ to be a Saviour of the world c. So stand I Religatus or bound again that is to say Religious to love my Lord and God which loveth me so intirely with all my soul heart and might and for His loves sake to love my neighbour as my self To love my Prince and all that bear authority under her to live as a subject under her Laws and humane Ordinances And finally to walk uprightly peaceably and brotherly among all people in all love And this is only to be obtained at Gods hand by prayer and humble submission under the obedience of Gods holy word through the comforting of the Holy Ghost or Spirit of Love of which spirit God hath promised to shed forth upon his sons and daughters plentifully now in these last days like as is manifest in the Service of Love And therefore I acknowledge that whosoever now shall refuse to incline or indeavour himself for to walk in the same small or narrow way being called or warned thereto out of love by the Gospel of Jesus Christ to live in such a groundly faith of Jesus Christ in such a true Religion and upright obedience to God and Governors and in all subjection under Gods holy Laws and manly Ordinances and likewise in such a brotherly love towards his neighbour and peaceable life towards all men as I have here rehersed and likewise as is more at large expressed
it might even so come to pass we all do and will pray unto the Lord both night and day upon our knees Countrey-man Yet one thing more I have to demand of thee which is this For asmuch as our learned Preachers yea and especially those which have done you such injuries as aforesaid do in words advertise the people to love God and their neighbours obey the Queen and her Governours and to live under their Laws as also to lead an upright life like as H.N. doth admonish all the generations on earth in the same Service of Love What then is the difference between them and you Exile Look a little into the matter with me I beseech thee There are very many found in these days that believe of God and of Christ but yet very few that endeavour themselves through true repentance and newness of life under the obedience of Gods holy Word as is aforesaid for to believe rightly in God and in Christ that is so as God and Christ might dwell in them and they in him Lo hereby are the children of God known from the children of the devil and this is the very difference between them and us And therefore the holy Law of God or Commandements which they teach to be observed upon pain of damnation and yet have not any lust thereunto themselves and then again in the end confess it to be impossible for any man to accomplish or live the same That do we with all our hearts desire to observe and keep believing the possibility thereof to consist only in the Lord our God and that the accomplishment of the same shall in time come to passe in us and all that believe by the might of God the Father through Jesus Christ Consider advisedly thereof all you that be wise Countrey-man Now I do perceive that the difference betwixt them and you is not much to speak of and in few words this what they say the same you desire to do and this is not any more then is betwixt heaven and earth light and darkness flesh and spirit c. Selah And I think thou hast spoken all this out of the ground of three heart without either dissimulation or guile Exile Yea verily and even so the Lord increase his love in me and in many Amen Neither have I done this without cause as some both honorable and worshipful with others in her Majesties Court knoweth But like as I have sustained many great and grievous injuries so have I also according to Gods holy word expressed in the Ministration of Love humbled my self in all stillness and patience under the obedience of the 〈◊〉 of Jesus Christ and h●… Crosse And now again hath the same love constrained hee partly for the clearing of my self against so many odious and intolerable brutes and defamations that have been spread forth against me to my utter undoing and also partly for the satisfying of others which are brought there through into great mistrust fulnesse of us and our Religion to write this little devi●e 〈…〉 will to any one of the ignorant resisters of the Love of God his mercy towards them neither yet towards any one of any adversaries O no but I rather wish unto them as also to all people on earth gra●e so to humble themselves under the obedience of the word of God the Father which is ministred out of the love of Jesus Christ now in these las days that they with us and we with them through true repentance in one consent of godly love and one obedience might 〈◊〉 stones be coupled and fast builded up in Jesus Christ to one holy Tabernacle Temple Family Habitation or house of Love or of God for asmuch as God is Love and so henceforth to be no more but one God one Faith one Baptism one Christ one Lord one Saviour in us all over us all and amongst us all in all love Amen To whom with the Holy Ghost be all laud and thanksgiving for ever and ever Amen Countrey-man The God of love peace make us al meet to be of such an holy Family Amen In very deed Exile now am I fully perswaded and do find it in the truth that the obedience to the word of God the Father through the ministration of the Love of Jesus Christ which consequently requireth all dutiful obedience to Magistrates and Governors is the very way to attain to the right spirit of wisdom or key of the holy understanding without which spirit the holy Scriptures have alwaies been and so shall still remain for ever as a fast sealed Book which no man amongst all the wise of the world or Scripture-learned could ever open or unlock forasmuch as it appertaineth to the Lamb Christ only that meek-minded spirit fast grounded in Love to open the same But what shall I say more Alas Exile alas that ever it should be found true or recorded in writing especially in these days of our most gracious Queen Elizabeth that upright Christians and true-hearted subjects should suffer such cruel persecution Oh alas wo is me who shall give to mine eys tears sufficient that I might weep enough for the miseries cause which I now see coming swiftly over the face of the whole earth Alas how will it now go with all those Libertines and licentious Scripture-learned which have out of their good thinking knowledge and without the spirit of the Lord thus seduced the ignorant abused her Majesties Laws and Ordinances blasphemed the Love of God and her Ministers and persecuted simple and true hearted subjects which have not resisted them Now shall they be found happy which have done well and whose days are ended on the earth for they shall not see the misery which for the wickednesses cause that presently do abound must fall over all the children of men Alas whither then shall all the children of men fly that they might escape all those horrible plagues Well we are right sorry for thee and thy company and yet much more sorry for those which have brought this trouble upon you for we do well perceive that you have been injured slandered and persecuted overmuch God give them hearts to repent that have wrought you this injury and give you all in the mean time patience to bear the same God be merciful and gracious to thee and thy company which now are spoken evil of and give to the persecuted and Exiled such favour in the eyes of her gracious Majesty that they may in some convenient time have liberty to walk forth freely unmolested and that your orderly and good life may shew that you love God and his Laws That they all may at some convenient time have liberty to walk forth freely unmolested and your orderly and good life may shew that you love God and his Lawes and that your subjection may testifie that you live under her Laws obediently not disturbing any one about Religion but walking your selves uprightly and brotherly among all men as becommeth the Gospel FINIS
in the holy Scriptures and in the Service of Love He is doubtless out of the true faith of God and Christ and erreth very much and shall not neither now nor hereafter unlesse they repent in time find mercy with God or yet through Christ obtain remission of his sins inherit the kingdom of heaven or yet become saved It is very true therefore consider advisedly of it in time Countrey-man Tell me how comest thou by this understanding or by what means was it made manifest unto thee Exile Through the obedience of the word of God the Father ministred out of the love of Jesus Christ through the holy Spirit of love and in the Crosse of Jesus Christ c. out of which ministration all things needfull to be known so well things natural as spiritual are at large laid open the true discipline frequented all grounds of Religion with all manner of errors nakedly declared the truth manifested And also all people both Christian and Heathen Jew or Gentile or of what Nation or Religion whatsoever c. are lovingly called and warned to repentance and reformation of life likewise fore-warned of the great plagues unlucky misery and wo that will speedily and unawares come upon all unrepenting sinners and licentious Scripture-learned to their utter condemnation in the fire of hell among whom I have been chief and now what am I poor sinner that I should not submit my self to such a gracious warning and repent ere ever Gods heavy wrath and indignation in his righteous judgement fall upon me to my utter destruction Countrey-man But what thinkest thou of our learned Preachers in these our days whilst many of them haply have not heard or read of such a ministration out of love as thou speakest of here or else if they have heard of it they have not perhaps so well considered thereof as it seems thou hast done art thou against them Exile I am against no learned Preacher which advertizeth the people to repentance godlinesse peace obedience and love and so long as they love God and his righteousness they have I suppose all heard of the ministration of Love and have many read and seen of the Books though perhaps they have not understood them effectually or rightly considered the mind of the Author therein for had they so done then would they not verily have spoken so much evil of them as they have done unlesse as I cannot so think as yet they did obstinately hate God and abhor all righteousnesse peace and love neither yet would they have imprisoned not so shamefully slandered so many simple souls which upon admonition from the destruction given them in the Service of Love have had an unfained desire to repent and amend their lives although some of them haply are in certain points through ignorance or fear Countrey-man Wilt thou then take part with and justifie the Author and his Books and so condemn our learned Preachers Exile I will neither take part with nor yet justifie the Author nor yet any of his Bookes but will leave them to answer for themselves neither do I meddle with things therein which are above my capacity Notwithstanding all what I finde therein written or else where that advertiseth me to repentance godliness of life obdience to God and Governours love towards God and my neighbour and peace towards all men according to the Scriptures that must I needs think well of Nevertheless if he or his Books be not able to answer for themselves so then will not I answer for them neither will I before a Law-judge condemn any whether learned or unlearned but leave that unto those unto whom judgement doth belong Countrey-man I cannot mislike thy Answers yet notwithstanding some may haply gather of such like words as thou hast here spoken unto us That the Author of those aforesaid Books with all you that are now tearmed of the Family of Love go altogether about to put down that Religion which her Majesty hath now set up and allowed and to bring it to nought And in so doing forasmuch as she is chief Governess of the same Church c. it may be imaged that ye are so against the State yea and perhaps such like matters have been put either into her Majesties head or else into some of her honorable Counsellors heads And thereupon it is come to passe that you are by some of our learned Preachers tearmed for Libertines yet all this notwithstanding I will not give any rash credit or judgement therein until I have first heard thee speak of it Exile I give you most hearty thanks therefore Then first of all I beseech you let me know what you call the Religion that is set up or at the least wise willed so to be by her Majesty and allowed so shall I the better give you an answer therein according to my simple skill Countrey-man It is to preach the Gospel plainly and sincerely out of Gods holy Spirit that all people learned or unlearned may so well by their life as by their Doctrine understand the same to their endless comfort and salvation and so to express a true belief in God the Father and in Christ our Saviour to expel all idolatry to abandon and abolish all forreign powers to administer the Sacraments and Ceremonies of the Church uniformly in their right Order To obey the Queens Majesty and live under her Laws and humane Ordinances acknowledging her as chief Governess in all causes c. here under Christ in this Realm of England and Ireland c. Exile This certainly is a good Religion were it once generally put in ure notwithstanding whatsoever men list to imagine of us that may they we cannot let them But hear me and I will tell you as it shall be found in the truth Were all his Books of whom we spake rightly considered of with indifferency so should they be found assistances in all to this aforesaid Religion and not hinderances For did the Preachers first and then the people according to his writing and admonition in the Service of Love viz. repent them and follow such counsel as is expressed by him in the same so should no doubt the Gospel then be sincerely preached according to her Majesties mind and the true belief published to the salvation of many All idolatry and forreign power as well inwardly as outwardly expulsed and driven away The Sacraments and Ceremonies of the Church should then be rightly administred The Queens Majesty obeyed not for fear but rather out of love and acknowledged as chief Governess in all causes c. as is meet And which is more the Lords heavy wrath whereof he hath often warned us in the Ministration of Love and alas which also I fear me is at hand for our wickedness cause should then be easily appeased And then yet moreover whereas many times it happeneth that the Prince is taken away for sins cause of the people her Majesty should then reign prosperously amongst us in all