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A89229 Gangrænachrestum, or A plaister to alay the tumor, and prevent the spreading of a pernitious vlcer, like to have grown upon, and putrified the good report of Jo. Maddocks, and Henry Pinnell. Made up of a true relation (wherein the faults of the former impression by Master Edwards are revised, corrected, and amended) concerning some passages at Pool. / By the abused parties I.M. and H.P. Maddocks, John.; Pinnell, Henry. 1646 (1646) Wing M246; Thomason E353_12; ESTC R201080 22,021 31

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he hath not spoken to them 4 Argument is drawne from the end of God in giving of gifts 1 Cor. 12.7 The Apostle having asserted in the fourth verse that the Saints gifts of what measure and kind soever of which he nominates divers 8 9 10 11 verses are by the selfe same spirit of God he concludes in the 7 verse but the manifestation of the spirit is given to every man to profit withall And in the 5 Mathew 14. Christ to the Disciples speakes of it as the end of God in making them lights that they might shine and as an absurdity to Reason it selfe a thing which no man will doe to put a light candle under a bushell where no man shall have the benefit of it 5 Argument it is no where in Scripture contradicted but often encouraged and commended 11 Numbers 26.7 Eldad and Medad prophecyed in the campe Joshua complaining to Moses of their preaching Envyest thou saith Moses for my sake I would to God all the Lords people were Prophets Obj. Against this was objected by Master S. F. Moses wished that they were all Prophets but not that they should prophecy before they were Prophets Ans 1. None can prophecy before they are gifted and enabled to it 2. It cannot have reference to an outward call but to that which was the objection viz. Eldad and Medad who were not of the Preisthood prophecying by the spirit of God and Moses wish had beene very superfluous if when they were thus prophets they should not prophecy Againe in the 1 Thes 5.19 quench not the spirit despise not prophecying so that where the spirit of God is it ought not to be quenched nor prophecying by it but the spirit of God ●s in many Christians out of office therefore not to be quenched c. and Christ reprooves the Disciples for forbidding the man that cast out Divells in his name and tells them that no man that doth a miracle in his name can lightly speak evill of hime so likewise in the 1 Cor. 12. Chap. 1 3 4 5 v. The Apostle desiring that they might not be ignorant concerning spirituall gifts and speaking of the diversities of operations and administrations from the same Lord and the same Spirit he saith in the third verse that he gives this to be understood by the Saints that no man speaking by the spirit of God can call Iesus accursed the spirit of God cannot possibly dishonour Iesus Christ and no man can say that Iesus is the Lord no man can truly exalt Iesus Christ but by the Holy Ghost so in the 12 of Mathew Christ having by the spirit of God cast out a Divell the Pharises accused him blaspheming the spirit of God of casting out Divells by Beelzebub the Prince of the Divells now observe Christs answer in justification of any thing done by the spirit of God after his conviction of them by their own children and the impossibility of a house standing which is divided against it selfe he saith in the 28 verse if I cast out Divells by the spirit of God then the Kingdome of God is come unto you and in the third verse he that is not with me is against me he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad now gathering must be by exhortation c. and the Scripture restraines not to method or forme in it and farther its added in the next verse as a check or reproofe of those that undervalue and slight the Spirit of God wherefore I say unto you all manner of sinne and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall never be forgiven and whosoever shall speak a word against the sonne of man c. intimating the wilfull quenching despising of the spirit of God to be a sinne of the highest nature or as Marke hath it brings in danger of eternall damnation because they said he hath an uncleane spirit 6. Argument Those that haue not improved their Talents by gathering with Iesus Christ have been sentenced and condemned Mathew 23. he that had but one talent and kept it 〈◊〉 a napkin is accounted an unprofitable servant and bound hand and foot and cast into outer darknesse and in the aforenamed 〈◊〉 of Mathew he that gathereth not scattereth abroad 7. Argument That which is especially authorized a Call in Scripture is a sending and enabling by the Spirit of God to Preach the word of God 10. Rom. 15. compare with the 23 Ieremiah 10. R●●…enes how shall he preach except he be sent it implies that if he be sent he can Preach yet many of those that have been sent with the outward call pleaded for could never Preach the glad tydings of the Gospell of Peace which sent ones are there spoken of with reference to the Peoples beleeving upon the discovery of the Gospells glad tidings by them compare with it the 23 Ier. 21. I have not saith God sent these Prophets yet they ranne which sending is expounded in the latter part of the verse I have not spoken to them yet they Prophecyed So in the 16. verse they speake a vision of their own heart and not out of the mouth of the Lord saying they shall have peace c. Yet these in the 13 and 14 verses were Prophets of Sanaria and Prophets of Ierusalem outwardly called and in the 〈◊〉 verse the Lord saith expresly that if they had stood in his Counsell and caused his people to heare his words a blessing should have attended their Ministry they should have turned them from their evill waies and from the evill of their doings It was there affirmed by Mr S.F. that the Lords complaint here was that they were not sent with an outward call which if they were not then 1. First it must be cleared why they are called Prophets of Samaria and Prophets of Ierusalem 2. Secondly it must necessarily follow that God will blesse the endeavours of men without an outward Call which stand in his Councell and Prench his word and not the visior of their own hearts verse 22. I have now as briefly as I can related the truth not so much if at all for my own vindication as for the Saints and the Gospells sake both which have been so slandered and undermined by pretended Friends FINIS ERRATA In the Title page for Desertè reade Diserti Pag. 4. lin 24. for dealts r. deale p 9. l. 11. for ●ame r. name l. 15. for right right p. 11. l. ● for borther r. brother p. 18 Adde 2 to the beginning of l. 25. p. 19. l. ●2 for never r. ever p. 22. l. 15. for Christians r. Christian There be many mistakes in stops and points which being but Punctil●●●●'s of Grammar and servants to vvaite upon an Emphasis in Oratory I have left by reason of my absence from the Presse to exercise thy judgement and charity
the Church it being the spirituall disposition in a Saint to rejoyce in the increase that is of God though in another Two Objections were made against the premises 1. Object That by Prophets is there meant onely Ministers in Office and that the word all hath reference only to Prophets so taken To this the Answer is three folde 1. That were superfluous for it was never questioned whether men in Officiall authority might exercise their guifts 2. If only those are there meant then of necessity there must be at least 5 or 6 prophets or ministers in Office in one Church for the Apostle speakes of such a particular Church as might come together the whole Church at one time and in one place there might three speake and there must be others the rest to judge against which is the practise of the objections who rather would have one officer to two Churches speaking at will as an infallible Oratour or divine Oracle and none must judge so that if it be so they have at least changed the Ordinances c. 3. The Apostle layeth downe the restriction 34 35. verses to be onely of women which must be in opposition to men not to prophets let your women keepe silence in the Churches for it is not permitted unto them to speake implying clearely that it is permitted to men and no shame for any but women to speake in the Church 2. Second Objection was that this would breed a great confusion for all to speake Answ 1. all cannot speake because all are not gifted 2. If all could and were so gifted yet the Ordinance of God breedes no confusion or as the Holy Ghost answereth the objection 32 33. verses God is not the author of confusion but of peace as it all Churches of the Saints and the spirits of the Prophets are Subject to the Prophets that is I conceive one will not confusedly contend with another but freely give way to those that are most able for the Churches edification according to that rule in the 26. verse Lor all things be done to edifying Againe though all have liberty and may seasonably and without confusion speake or prephecie it doth not therefore necessarily follow that every member must speake something every time that the Church it come together such a conceipt were absurd all things must be done to edification Thus for answer to those two objections then observe farther that in the 37. verse the Apostle layeth downe this only as necessarie to a man that thinks himselfe a prophet or Spirituall let him saith he acknowledge the things which I write unto you to be the commandements of the Lord let him be rightly principled in the doctrine of the Gospell and in the 39.40 verses he concludes thus wherefore brethren covet to prophecy and forbid not to speake with tongues hinder not the exercise of any guilt which God hath given to the Church Yet in the 40. verse let all be done decently and in order so that all the gifts given to the Church may be used in the Church without confusion the spirits of the Prophets being subject to the Prophets verse 31 32 33. But if any man saith he be ignorant let him be ignorant verse 28. 2 Argument in drawne from the example of the Saints in Scripture 8 Acts 4.11 ch 19.20 8 chap. ● verse note that all were feattered except the Apostles and 4 verse they that were scattered went every where preaching the word So 11 chap 19 20. they that were scattered upon the persecution that arose about Stephen some were men of Ciprus c. preached the Lord Jesus both to Iewes and Grecians 21 verse the hand of the Lord was with them and a great number beleived and turned unto the Lord and in 22 verse when tidings came to the Church at Jerusalem they sent Barnah as to assist them who when he was come and had seene the grace of God was glad and exhorted them c. he never questioned their call to it so in the 1 Phil. 14 15. Paul speaking of his bonds and the things happened to him that they were fallen out to the suttherance of the Gospell he saith in the 14 verse that many of the brethren in the Lord which is the denomination of every member waning confident by his bonds were much more bold to speake the word without feare and in 15 16 17 18. some he saith did preach Christ out of envy and strife supposing to adde afflictions to his bonds yet he rejoiced that Christ was preached by them though it be altogether improbable that they would ordeine such to office whose intentions were to adde afflictions to Paul's bonds for we find them very carefull of ordeining any that were not soundly tried and Paul charging Timothy to lay hands suddainly on no man not doe I remember mention or complaint made of any such Officers in any of the Churches at that time Another proofe is in the 18 Acts 24.5 6 7 8. where we find that Apollos was instructed onely in the baptisme of John therefore not in the least measure probable to be called to office in the Church by any of the Apostles when so ignorant of the way of God and the Churches walkings yet he taught diligently the things of the Lord and spake boldly in the Synagogue and after onely a more full information in the way of God by Aquila and Priscilla he mightily helped those that had believed through grace convincing the Iewes and that publickely that Jesus was Christ 3 Argument is drawne from the nature of faith it selfe which is to speake what it hath seene and heard so the Apostles Peper and John argued 4 Acts 20. being threatned by the Councell and Preists and charged to speake no more in the name of the Lord Jesus the reason which they gave why they must speake was not drawne from any officiall authority but from the working nature of faith in them we cannot say they but speake the things which we have seene and heard And in the 116 Psal 10. I did believe saith David therefore have I spoken So in the 66 Psal 26. being experienced in the mercy of God delivering him as he saith in another place the word did 〈◊〉 in his breast so here he could not reserve in his owne breast what God had done for him Come hither saith he all ye that feare the Lord I will tell you what he hath done for my soule So in the 32 Psal 4.5 I acknowledged my transgression saith he and thou forgavest my iniquity well in the 5 verse For this shall every one that is godly pray unto thee in a time when thou mayest be found implying that he would not be silent but spread Gods name of pardoning iniquity transgression and sinne which he had experience of as an encouragement to others to expect the same which he had found so 40 Psal 8 9 10. and in the 23 Jer. the Lord condemnes them as false Prophets that speake when