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A treatise of the nature of Catholick faith and heresie with reflexion upon the nullitie of the English Protestant church and clergy / by N.N.
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Talbot, Peter, 1620-1680.
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Clergy If not they are guilty of the losse of their owne soules for venturing so rashly being forewarned to âommit so many and so great sacrileges against God and his holy Sacraments 22 But as to the impossibility of forging so many Registers in case there be so many it is easily answered âhat it is no more then that the Consecrator and other persons concerned should have conspired to give in a falâe Certificat that the Consecration was performed with all due ceremonies and rites and thereby deceive the Courts or make them dissemble and this is a thing moâe possible and probable then that all the Protestant Clergy should have conspired not to produce the said Registers when they were so hardly prest by their adversaâies Or that so many Catholicks should have beene so âoolish to invent and maintaine the story of the Nagsâead in such time when if it had beene false they might âave beene convinced by thousand witnesses Or that so many grave and learned Divines who for conscience sake âeft all should without feare of damnation ingage themselves and posterity in damnable sacaileges by occasioning so many sacrilegious reordinations upon their charâ ging Protestants with no Ordination no moderate anâ prudent man can suspect that such persons should damnâ their soules out of meere spight against the Church oâ England If we Catholicks did reordaine the Protestant Ministers upon title of their heresie and not of theiâ knowne invalidity we should also reordaine the Greciaâ Priests which is notoriously against our practise and Tenets in so much that we hold our selves obliged to examine with all diligence whether there be any probability of the person having received valid orders and finding but any probable appearance thereof the practise is and hath beene for diverse ages to give orders not absolutely but conditionally whereas it is notorious that all our English Ministers who after their conversion have beene made Priests received their Orders in absolute termes without any condition adjoyned in the same manner which wâ use in ordaining meere laymen 23 Let us go one step further with our Protestant Clergy and suppose that their first Bishops were ordained by Catholicks we reserve yet another nullitie in store foâ their consecration And to wave many doubts that mighâ be moved concerning the matter of their Ordination wâ will onely speake of the forme or words prescribed in the Protestant Rituall It is a knowne principle common to both Protestants and Catholicks that in the forme of Ordination there must be some word expressing the authority and power given to the person ordained the intention of the Ordainer expressed by generall words indisserent and appliable to all or divers degrees of holy Orders is not sufficient to make one a Priest or a Bishopâ As for example Receive the holy Ghost these words being indifferent to Priesthood and Episcopacy and used iâ both Ordinations are not sufficiently expressive of eitheâ in particular unlesse Protestants will now at length professe themselves Presbyterians making no distinction betweene Priests and Bishops but they are as farre from that as we Catholicks In the words or forme wherebâ Protestants ordaine Bishops there is not one word expressing Episcopall power and authority The forme ãâã this Take the holy Ghost and remember that thou stirre ãâã the grace of God which is in thee by impositions of hands foâ God hath not given us the spirit of feare but of power and loâe and sobernesse The grace of God is given by imposiâon of hands in all holy Orders as also the spirit of âower love and sobernesse There is not one word in âhis forme expressing the difference and power of Episcoâacy Let Protestants search all Catholick Rituals not ânely of the West but of the East they will not finde âny one forme of consecrating Bishops that hath not the âord Bishop in it or some others expressing the particuar authority and power of a Bishop distinct from all oâher degrees of holy Orders See Ioannes Morinus in his âearned Commentaries De sacris Ecclesiae Ordinibus printed ât Paris an 1655 who sets downe the ancient formes both ân Greeke and Latin as well of Priesthood as of Episcoâacy 24 The forme or words whereby men are made Priests must expresse authority and power to consecrate or make present Christs Body and Bloud whether with or without Transubstantiation is not our present Conâroversy with Protestants but onely whether their forme hath words expressing authority and power to make Christs Body truly present See the forme of Priesthood used by the English Clergy set downe by me in the first Chap. num 10. and you will not finde one word expressing this power and authority Receive the holy Ghost doth not involve it because it s used in the consecration of Bishops who would be recordained Priests when they receive Episcopall Order if the said words include power âo consecrate Christs Body To dispense or minister the Sacraments come farre short of the power and authority of consecrating the elements or making present Christs Body Deacons did minister and dispense the Body of Christ to the people in ancient times but were never âhouht to have power and authority of consecrating The power of remitting sinnes doth not include power to consecrate or make present the Body and Bloud of Christ for every layman hath power to remit sinnes by baptizing and no layman hath power to consecrate or make present Christs Body Therefore words giving power to remit sinnes doth not include power to consecrate all Sacraments ordained for remission of sinnes as some Protestants endeavour to make the ignorant believe In all formes of ordaining Priests that ever were used in the Easterne or Westerne Church is expresly set downe the word Priest or some other words expressing the particular and proper function and authority of Priesthood If any States or Countrey should say We choose such a person to be King in the word King is sufficiently expressed all Kingly power and authority Therefore the Grecians using the word Priest or Bishop in their formes do sufficiently expresse the respective power of every Order 25 The true reason why the English forme of making Priests and Bishops is so notoriously deficient and invalid is because it was made in King Edward the VI. his time when Zuinglianisme and Puritans did prevaile in the English Church the reall presence was not believed by them of the Clergy who bore sway therefore they did not put in the forme of Priesthood any word expressing authority and power to make Christs Body present They held Episcopacy and Priesthood to be one and the same thing therefore in the forme of making Bishops they put not one word epressing Episcopall function onely some generall termes that might seeme sufficient to give them authority to enjoy the temporalities and Bishopricks This is also the true reason why Parker and his Collegues were content with the Nags-head consecration and why others recurred to extraordinary vocation in Queene Elizabeths time