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A65656 A small present to a Roman Catholique in opposition to his present hear-say tradition, as not agreeable to the rule of faith ... / by Henry Whistler, Bac. Theol. Whistler, Henry. 1657 (1657) Wing W1678A; ESTC R30189 9,060 20

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oblige any to believe it as certaine nor condemn those who neither doe nor ever will admit such Position that there 's now no Revelations for new points of Doctrine that Christ Jesus was our only Law-maker in this kind having delivered to his Apostles and they to their Churches all that was necessary to be knowne of this degree and therefore Stay Sir out of such premises of such Roman Catholique Teachers as are agreeable to Protestants advisement conclude not over hastily to make your Disciple unsafe in not being troubled at your differences since contrary to your minde those high Competitors for Authority do decree new points of Doctrine and would oblige all others under paine of eternall damnation Oblige and not oblige How your speech crosseth it selfe and yet as an Aeger cutteth and smootheth all smoothly submitted to Tradition a name of strong delusion inchanting to receive as if that had come continually fluent from Christ which is against Christ and against the definition of generall Councils as Image-worship against the commandement of God and against the determination of two severall Councils one at Franck ford abbetting that other at Constantinople and that at Constance forbidding to communicate lay people under both kindes notwithstanding the institution of Christ and the practice of the primitive Church communicating the people under both both Christ and his Apostles calling the Cup the Covenant in Christs blood which before the face of Christ barreth the plea of Roman Tradition therein and that constantian non obstante pleadeth but custome and that abusively being not in memoriall à parte ante before the beginning whereof the Primitive practice and institution are acknowledged on the contrary for us In full communion to say no more of other new points in the profession upon Oath which you acknowledge to make use of at admission of others to your Church since P. Pius 4. Alas unwarie soules engulphed thereby to professe the fatall insinuating guiles under pretence of Traditions not knowing what nor how many nor how safely to discern among so many false unrighteous and evill since evill spirits and false Teachers arose in the Apostles time and multiplying afterwards rendred Hear-say a most unsafe guide especially since that Councill of Trent through finall devolution of all to Pope Pius the 4. against the Papall confirmations of so many former Council's Acts hath frustrated the discretive Rules either by Pope or Councill or both Pope and Councill together evaporating in your fume as but Opinions although most elaborate in so many named generall Councils the latter the worse representative of your high minded Roman Church all easie to be convinced of contradiction a bar against all hope of any certification by that your imaginary Traditioning way without any rule or forme of certainty whereby to discern pretences of traditionall matters either practicall or especially speculative experience enough in 2400 yeares from the beginning when a man living 800 or 900 yeares Doctrines might more easily descend by Tradition from Grandfathers to Grandchildren yet if then by the subtle enemy Tradition was poisoned and cursedly did poyson with Babylonion bitternesse in ambition of an universal selfe-wise Monarchy worshipping Images of the dead and worshipping the dead false gods abominable Idolatry superstition cruell persecution against the then worshippers of the onely true God Traditionary wisdome so putrifying man-kinde needed to have the Law written and at need God writ it with his owne finger in Tables of Stone and bid Moses write in a Booke against which the evil spirit of enmity practised by force and fraud First by force of lesser Potentates after that by the four mighty Beasts descried in Daniels vision Prophetically the Babylonion Persian Grecian Roman as in that Imperiall outragious publique Edict to burne the Bible the Christians patience overcomming the Roman persecutors thenceforth the subtlest infernall enmity projected by fraud in Lamb-like profession hypocritically to defeat the power of Christian Religion by subduing the written Word of God to Tradition again in two grand perilous impostures One as if Tradition were more certain to men An other as if Tradition were more perfit so piecing out salvifical Doctrine partly by unwritten Tradition and partly by depressing what is written as it were uncertain and having no certainty toward us but in dependence upon Tradition unwritten A fraud most mischievous most wisely prevented by the providence of God the Holy Ghost in Booking the New Testament with those two glorious praises of Certainty and of Integrity More certainty by writing then by preaching the Gospell as affirmed in the first verses of St. Lukes Gospel admirable caution of Gods holy Spirit enditing so that the Papists own authorized Testament unfasteneth it not as an impertinent movable but as the verses prime in that first chapter of St. Luke Having heard and learned the Gospel truths from those that were eye-witnesses and ministers of the word from the beginning the very prime advantantage of Tradition 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Tradiderunt traditioned or by tradition delivered the same from those first Teachers yet it seemed good to me to write those things for certainty the Rhemists translate it Verity that is not enough it was Verity before in the first Teachers but in writing is more assured certainty yea more yet as beyond all fallacy without all fallacious or fallible incertainty free from 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 tutum safe to write Phil. 3.1 For me to write safe for you 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the word here security secure verity taught before yet farther for security to be written it is good to read it written for assuring securing certifying the things wherein thou art instructed 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 catechised even in the Principles of saving Faith although instructed catechised by the first Teachers in the first spring of Tradition yet it is safe secure to be further secured of those things most excellent Theophilus by interpretation a lover of God The ancient Epiphanius Haeres 51. found it not certaine to be the name of any particular man but saith it might be spoken to every true lover of God and the Papists Annotations acknowledge it as the Bereans were esteemed more noble than others for searching the Scriptures whether those things were so as they heard preached If the case were so at first when tradition was more easie much more now after so long time hath multiplyed errors and the spirit of envy sowed tares and numberless false Prophets have wrought their nets of subtle fallacies ought the lovers if their own soules be lovers of Gods written Word to secure themselves that as our Saviour argued the Jews to have been deceived by Tradition from their forefathers so the Gentiles might not unwarily be caught by pretended Tradition from the Apostles as the Apostles of us Gentiles forewarned Here in Rushworths Dialogue the 3d Sect. 9. the Nephew interposeth in season saying P. 197. I have another great difficulty that our Catechists and