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A06347 An excellent and plaine discourse of the church, whereby the godlie may knowe and discerne the true Church, from the Romish Church, and all other false and counterfet churches, as well for matters of doctrine, as discipline, &c. Written in Frenche by M. Bartrand de Loque, a godlie minister of Dolphenine. And faithfully translated into English, by M.T.W. Seene and allowed; Traité de l'eglise. English Loque, Bertrand de.; T. W. (Thomas Wilcox), 1549?-1608. 1582 (1582) STC 16813; ESTC S103377 172,896 422

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be_v take_v out_o of_o the_o law_n and_o prophet_n in_o like_a manner_n if_o any_o under_o the_o title_n and_o name_n of_o the_o spirit_n shall_v bring_v unto_o we_o any_o thing_n which_o be_v not_o contain_v in_o the_o gospel_n let_v we_o not_o believe_v it_o for_o as_o christ_n be_v the_o accomplishment_n and_o fulfil_v of_o the_o law_n and_o prophet_n so_o be_v the_o holy_a ghost_n of_o the_o gospel_n but_o how_o can_v we_o by_o this_o way_n or_o mean_v discern_v and_o know_v the_o spirit_n that_o be_v to_o say_v whether_o the_o doctrine_n which_o they_o shall_v propound_v and_o set_v forth_o unto_o we_o be_v from_o the_o holy_a ghost_n or_o no_o after_o two_o sort_n or_o by_o two_o mean_n you_o shall_v know_v this_o first_o if_o it_o tend_v to_o this_o end_n to_o exalt_v establish_v and_o set_v up_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n for_o as_o jesus_n christ_n say_v 7.18_o joh._n 7.18_o he_o that_o seek_v the_o glory_n of_o god_n be_v true_a and_o no_o unrighteousness_n be_v in_o he_o 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