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A66688 Truth lifting up its head above scandals Wherein is declared what God Christ Father Son Holy Ghost Scriptures Gospel Prayer Ordinances of God are. By Gerrard Winstanly. Winstanley, Gerrard, b. 1609. 1649 (1649) Wing W3054; ESTC R222280 38,309 95

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TRUTH Lifting up its head above SCANDALS Wherein is declared What God Christ Father Son Holy Ghost Scriptures Gospel Prayer Ordinances of God are By GERRARD WINSTANLY Professors of all forms behold the Bridgroom is in coming your profession wil be try'd to purpose your hypocricy shall be hid no longer You shall feed no longer upon the Oyle that was in other mens Lamps the Scriptures for now it is required that every one have Oyle in his own Lamp even the pure testimony of truth within himself For he that wants this though he have the report of it in his book he shall not enter with the Bridegroome into the chamber of peace LONDON Printed in the year 1649. TO THE SCHOLlars of Oxford and Cambridge and to all that call themselves Ministers of the Gospel in City and Country SIRS YOu are the men that stand up assuming the power to your selves to teach the People the mystery of the Spirit and that you are the onely men sent of him for that office therefore you are called spirituall men or men that are all spirit Many differences you see about spirituall things arises up daily amongst the people it doth not belong to you to make parties but to judge of these differences with a moderate and meek spirit between people and people you are not to suffer flesh or selfish distemper to breake forth from you a hasty rash spirit cannot judge any thing There are onely these two roots from whence these differences spring up that is either from the Spirit that made all things or from humane flesh which is the Creature that is gone astray and he that walks after the flesh denies the Spirit Now if you be spirituall as you say you are to judge of these differences and declare what is of the Spirit that it may stand and what is of the flesh that it may be trod under foot that so the Lord alone that made flesh may be exalted above flesh in the day of his power that doth begin to shine forth The rule that you judge by you say are the Scriptures of Prophets Apostles and ancient writers if so then you are not spirituall or all spirit neither have you the alone priviledge to judge for the People having the Scriptures may judge by them as well as you If you say no the People cannot judge because they know not the originall I answer neither doe you know the originall though by your learning you may be able to translate a writing out of Hebrew or Greek into our mother tongue English but to say this is the originall Scripture you cannot for those very Copies which the Prophets and Apostles writ are not to be seen in your Universities You say you have the just Copies of their writings you doe not know that but as your Fathers have told you which may be as well false as true if you have no better ground then tradition You say that the interpretation of Scripture into our mother tongue is according to the mind of the spirit you cannot tell that neither unlesse you were able to say that those who did ●nterpret those writings had had the same testimony of Spirit as the pen-men of Scriptures had for it is the Spirit within that must prove those copies to be true now you know that there are many translations and interpretations which differ much one from another which of them must the People take to be truest seeing you yourselves are at losse One company of you sayes this translation is the truth and then the People must be forced to follow you loe here is Christ saith the Prelats another company of yours saies such a translation is the truest and then the People must be forced to follow them as this halfe-day of the Beast cry loe here is Christ First here in the Pres●ytery then there in the Independency and thus you leade the People like horses by the noses ride upon them at your pleasure from one forme and custome to another and so quite from the Spirit You presse the People with much violence to maintain the Gospel the People demands What is the Gospel You say it is the Scriptures The People replies again How can these Scriptures be called the everlasting Gospel seeing it is torne in peeces daily amongst your selves by various translations inferences and conclusions one pressing this another that and the People are lost in the midst of your waters If you say you can judge by the Spirit why then you have not the alone priviledge to judge neither for the Spirit is not confined to your Universities but it spreads from East to West and enlightens sons and daughters in all parts If you say that visions and revelations are ceased and that the Spirit and Scriptures are still together then you erre mightily in spending constructions upon the Scriptures which is a revelation and doth not rather leave the Scriptures to their own genuine language that People may read the very lettter without alteration Two things as you are Scripture men you must judge of First what is the Gospel Secondly what is the report or declaration of the Gospel I declare positively what I know doe you take the Scriptures and disprove me if you can First The Gospel is the Spirit that ruled in the Prophets and Apostles which testified to them that in the later daies the same Spirit should be poured out upon all flesh Secondly then their writings is not the Spirit but a report or declaration of that law and testimony which was within them Now the Spirit spreading it selfe from East to West from North to South in sonnes and daughters is everlasting and never dies but is still everlasting and rising higher and higher in manifesting himselfe in and to mankinde But now the declaration of the Spirit being but words gon out of the mouth may be and daily are corrupted by the subtilty of imaginary flesh it is the Spirit within every man that tries all things words cannot try all things he that speakes from the flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption shall tast of misery that flesh brings upon himselfe but he that speaks from the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life or he that preaches the Gospel shall live of the Gospel that is he that speakes from the Spirit shall have inward peace life and liberty from the Spirit in the midst of all worldly straights he shall not want life and peace within You will say what of all this I answer it is matter of the greatest concernment your Pulpit wrings against Errors The People cries what are those errors You answere that there are a company of men ro● up that denies God and Christ and the Scriptures and the Gospel and prayer and all Ordinances and yet yo● have not considered with a meek spiri● what these men say but cry then down without tryall is this spiritual judging Well matters of this nature are to be judged with a wary and moderate spirit
terror to all unrighteousnesse Qu. But what if the Powers of a Land command some of their people to hold forth the scriptures to the rest and they be willing to obey An. If they doe they can command their servants only to read them and to such people as are willing to hear them read but they cannot command their servants to spend constructions thereupon neither can they force the people to come to hear those constructions but must leave both parties at liberty neither can they force the people to give the tenths of their increase for a yearly maintenance to those servants neither can those servants say we speake truthes and what differs from our constructions are errors and so call upon the Magistrate their master to punish such whom they brand for hereticks for all these things denie the scriptures and is contrary to the spirit of the Father and doe tie his hands and hinder the setting up of pure service and sow emnity to the Fathers own way of teaching They say I deny Father Son and Holy Ghost but wherefore they raise such a scandall I cannot tell yet hereof I shall give this accompt Qu. What is Father Son and Holy-Ghost Answ These are three names given to the one Spirit As first the Father he is the spirit Reason out of whom the creation of heaven and earth with every branch of it proceeded The Spirit in whom all things lay before there was any manifestation appeared visible and this is called the siery orbe or spirit of burning that will trie all mens works of what nature they be Secondly the Son is the light and declaration of the Father to the creation after it was come forth and here first note that every creature in its place and stature is a son to the Father because every single creature doe demonstrate his maker to the view of his fellow creature every one as a candlestick holding forth the Father by the light that is in it self for indeed the light that is in it is the Father himself and the Father shewes forth himself to the creation by every particular parcell of the creation but these are but darke or weake shining Suns Suns over which the clouds are much spread But now perfect man is the Son of the Father in perfect glory for when the Father rules and shines in him bodily then he can declare the Father by all his senses to the c●eation which no other creature can doe but he Therfore man is called the supream creature and he can call the spirit Lord because he sees and heares feels smels and tastes that he who is the spirit of gentlenesse uniting all together in love and sweet compliancie doth governe the whole creation and subjects all the flesh under him and makes it serviceable Now tha● man that is not humble and subject to the spirit his maker he is a Sun und●r a dark eclipse he hath the forme of the Son indeed that hath no ●rightnesse in him he is not the well belo●ed Son So you see here is the Father and the Son both in one person and spirit Now thirdly the Holy Ghost is a man in whom the Father dwels bodily which is E●manuel God with us and in and by whom the Father doth manifest his power in do●ng great works And he is said to be holy ●ecause the darknesse of the flesh is subdued ●nder the feet of the spirit and the spirit ●ules in flesh over all his enemies And he is called the Go-host or the ●rength of heaven living and walking in ●esh as an host or army of men are called the ●rength of a land and going up and down or the defence of the land against all ene●ies so I say perfect man hath the strength ●f the Father dwelling bodily in him And ●ne man thus drawne up is as an hoste of ●en or a strong army or a Go-host going ●r travelling among enemies and subduing ●hem under his feet by the power of the ●pirit that is in him And thus did the man Jesus Christ tread ●ll enemies powerfully under foot and ●ranke not he was a Go-host or a traveling army of mighty strength which way sover he went the spirit dwelt in him without measure And the particular Saints likewise as they are drawn up into the Father they have this tearme given them that on shall chase a hundred and a hundred put t● thousand to flight this declares they a● go-hosts or armies of mighty strength Now he that sins against the Father or the the Son in the former sense of Son-ship ● I said shall be forgiven and here he speak● of creatures one trespassing against anothe● and in so doing sins against the Father the is the light in them And here flesh m● possibly walke in wayes of opposition to the Father as he shines forth in creatures or ● he shines forth out of man weakly but ● that sins against that body in whom the F●ther dwels bodily shall not be forgiven A man may sin against other sons and ● forgiven but he that sins against this bel●ved son this holy Ghost this strength ● the Father shall never be forgiven By the word He or whosoever doth sin● is not meant here the creature man but the man of sin or powerfull serpent within the flesh for this strong wicked man fights against the strength of heaven this would n● have the spirit to dwel in flesh bodily why because he himself would dwel there wou●● have the spirit to be under his proud feet therefore there is an irreconcilable difference between the man of sin the serpent and the man of righteousnes the Spirit both striving to dwell in man but the spirit will prove the stronger Qu. But if it must only be the cursed one in me that shal be destroyed I le live as I list I shal be saved An. Know this that this body of sin and the flesh is so nearly wrapped each in other that before the spirit hath parted them thou shalt roar in bitternesse and wish thou hadst never been borne and the more familiarity thou hast had with thy cursed lust the sharper will thy torments be the found●r cannot burn away the drosse but must burn the gold too in the fire Qu. But if you take it Spirit Father Son and holy Spirit and leave the word Ghost out as to be a declaration of the Father as some say Answ Then the Spirit doth declare holy breathing as when man was first made his maker breathed into him the breath of life and man became a living soul so that the spirit in the man is the life and breath of God in the man and so a holy spirit And in this sense likewise the man of sin the powers of the curse in man seeke to de●troy the light life and breathing of God in man but he must be destroyed under the feet of the spirit who will dwell himself in his own house which house is man Qu. But
how came in that distinction of holy Spirit and of uncleane spirit which are phrases often used Answ Before man rejected the spirit his maker the spirit was his breath and life And he lived in the spirit treading the objects of the creation under his feet in comparison but after that man began to look after the objects of the earth delighting himself to live upon or among fellow creatures more then the spirit And so chose to himself another livelihood and protection then his master then his breath or power that guided him became mixed and turned uncleane Qu. Vnfold your meaning in this a little more Answ The spirit made the flesh to be his house to dwell in and set man in the midst of the creation as a lord to govern the creature which while he governed according to the light of his maker within him he did al● in righteousnesse but when he fell off and delighted to follow the lusts of his eye the lusts of his heart and guidance of the flesh then he governed al in unrighteousnesse and so pulling death and curse upon himself and upon the earth For the spirit that made all creatures did know that man as he was flesh would be looking after fellow creatures and take delight in the creation more then in the spirit of the creation who was his maker that dwelt within and lay covered from the eyes of flesh Therefore Reason the essentiall Father gave this Law that in that day that man left off to own his maker that dwelt within him and to suck delight from the creation he should then die or be cast into a condition to live below the spirit that is to live upon the creature and not upon the spirit And the spirit would suffer himself thus for a time to be trod under foot til the fulnesse of time came that he would rise up like seed of wheat from under those darke and heavy clods of fleshy earth and so himself the seed out of whom all things came would bruise the serpents head that powerfull proves that was in flesh to looke after objects without him rather then into the spirit within him Qu. Why then you seeme to say that the Law which Reason gives occasioned man to fall Answ Very true for if there had been no Law there had been no transgression if there had beene no binding law of reason to require him to cleave only to his maker and to eye and own him principally then he had not done evill though he had placed his delight in the objects of the earth his fellow creatures For note here it is one thing to live in and upon the spirit and another thing to fleight the spirit and to live in and upon the creation that came out or forth of the spirit Qu. I intreat you to tell me what you meane by the Spirit Answ The Spirit is the alone being of himself that gave a being to whatsoever we see and hear for whatsoever you see or hear is but the breathings forth or declaration of an infinite being that was before them as the words of a mans mouth are the declaration of the spirit or power within and are created by the spirit and so hold forth as a creature to the creation And therefore the Spirit is called the Father the King the mighty God or Governor Jehovah Elohim the Lord and the like Now he is called the Lord because he is the power that rules in and over the whole globe of heaven and earth for they are all governed by this one spirit Qu. But is death and darknesse made by this one Spirit likewise Answ The one spirit made light and drrknesse as in the great body of night and day so in the litle body man for that power of darknesse that dwels in humane flesh and which leads the creature captive into complainings and sorrow was made by the Spirit by these words In the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt die As well as he made that power of light liberty and life by those words Live yea I say Live Qu. I pray explaine this a little more An. After the Spirit had made the creation and mankinde to governe it Now Reason would manifest himself to this creation by the works of his own hands therefore let any man stand alone to the Law of Reason his Maker to see whether he would stick to the one spirit and live in him or cleave to the creatures and live in them and man rejected the spirit and cleaved to the creature and so by virtue of the Law cast himself under the power of death and darknesse which was the curse that Reason inflicted And thereupon the spirit within man being a prisoner to the flesh or divell As Reason would have it so for a time that when he comes to arise up in flesh like a corne of wheat from under the clods of the earth the creation may then come to know the spirit that is within it is the mighty Power and that al the creation being rested upon is still but weaknesse and cannot give true Rest that so the Father alone may be all in all Qu. What is the devill Answ The flesh of man within and the objects of the creation without is the divel under which the spirit within is for a tim● buried and lies silent and while man is subject to his flesh or to the objects before him he is carried away prisoner under the powe● of darknesse for let him goe from creatur● to creature all are too weake to worke hi● peace or let him have all the desires of hi● flesh satisfied even that delight brings pai● and sorrow no true peace Qu. And why is the flesh of man within a● objects without called the devill Answ Because when it is King it leads the spirit of man into darknesse yea into utter darknesse and sorrow far from light li● and true peace for it drawes men to live u●on the creation and to reject the spirit the is that you call the serpent which tempte●Adam Qu. How doe you mean make it more clear Answ The flesh of man having lifted ● his hee le against the Spirit within which was his Maker seeks life and contentment from objects without in the globe not from the Spirit Reason that dwels within and that holds altogether by the Power As for example covetous flesh delights in the enjoyment of riches or creatures pride of the flesh delights in the enjoyment of the sight of the eye or inward delights placed upon visible objects Now the man lives in and upon the creation not in and upon the Spirit in the creation and though he say that the Father is his God yet he lies for he is led and ruled by the flesh which is the devil or father of lies which throwes the man into vexation and sorrow every foot for if his covetousnesse pride and lusts be satisfied he hath peace but this is the peace of the flesh or
devil and let his covetousnesse or pride be crost and then he is filled with vexation which is hel or darknesse even the torments of the flesh or devil And the Law of Reason suffered the flesh thus to fall and to weary out himself in his own folly that when the Spirit is pleased to breake forth and manifest himself to rule in flesh then man may see his wise flesh hath nothing that is good in al his selfish actings but that the spirit that brought it forth is the mighty Power And when the Fathers time is come to manifest himself to any one he will then dispell the darknesse which by his Law he made and will set the creature free from the bondage of that darknes burne up all those thornes and briars that flesh hath brought to terrifie it self and will take up the creature into his own liberty and life And then the Spirit shall be all in all whereas the flesh generally living up on objects is all in all or chiefe ruler in every man Qu. What is it to live in the Spirit Answ When flesh is made to see and to be subject to the spirit that brought it forth and is guided by the light of Reason and righteousnesse that might tie power ruling it And not led away like a bear by the nose by every object before his eyes which the flesh lusts after to enjoy and places contentment in They slander me And say I deny Prayer And to this I shall give this accompt Qu. What is Prayer Answ Prayer is of a threefold nature First it is to pay the king of righteousnesse his due and that is for every man to act according to the-creation of a man which is to righteously to all fellow creatures he being the lord of the creatures As first to doe righteously to his own body in taking food moderately for the preservation of the health of it and not to be excessive in drunkennesse and gluttony and not to give away to the unclean lusts of the flesh which tends to the destruction of himself for if the Spirit Reason within a man let the flesh alone and doth not govern and moderate it in righteousnesse it will destroy it selfe in a short time let the flesh walke in Reasons law of moderation and righteousnesse and it shall be preserved from heart breaking sorrows Secondly act righteousnesse to all fellow creatures till the ground according to Reason use the labour of your cattell with Reason follow your course of trading in righteousnesse as Reason requires doe to men and women as you would have them doe to you and by so doing you shall live as Reasonable creatures you shall act according to the creation of a man and so pay the King of Righteousnesse his due for when you hold forth him in your conversation to the view of others you honour him you glorifie his name and give him thanks and this is one part of prayer Qu. Thus the heathen walked according to the light of nature but Christians must live above nature Answ Then English Christians are in a lower and worser condition then the heathens for they doe not so much Men that are guided by principles of fair dealing void of deceit knowes not this day how to live but he will be cheated and cosoned and is this life of Christians for all England is so called above the life of the heathens Surely the life of the heathens shall rise up in judgement against you from the greatest to the least But let me tell you that that man whosoever he be that is not carefull to look into the light of his nature and follow the rules of that light to do as he would be don unto shall never come to see the Spirit that made and that dwels in nature which is the Father of the whole creation And if you know not him then I pray tell me what God you worship or pray to But secondly Prayer lies in the Reasonings of the heart as thus Ask this question within thy selfe Is covetousnesse the name of the Lord or the name of the flesh the answer within thee will be it is the name of the flesh not the name of the Lord now if thou walke in covetousnesse how can thou be said to honor the Lord by thy words in prayer when thou honorest the name of the flesh in thy practise And so is pride is envy is rash anger is hypocrisie is self-will is unmercifull cruelty is zeale without knowledge is uncleannesse the name of the flesh or the name of the Lord thy owne heart will give answer they be the name of the flesh not the name of the Lord and thou lives in the practise and power of those lusts and gives the Lord a few customary words and thinks his service lies in them I will have thee to know that the time is now breaking forth yea it is began that they that worship the Father shall worship him in spirit and truth and not in lip labor and custome according to the imagination of flesh Qu. What is the name of the Lord then I propound this question within thy heart Answ The name of the Lord is Love joy peace meeknesse obedience self-denial chastafie humility mercifulnesse Reason Now he that is drawne up thus to Reason within himself and to see himself this man is praying continually and calling upon the name of the Lord continually whatsoever he doth whatsoever he thinkes which way soever he goes he shall have still fresh occasions thus to be reasoning within himself and this reasoning will do two things First it will strike the heart dead when thou comest to see that for all thy praying in words yet thou art at a losse for thou honorest the name of the flesh in practise and only worships the Lord with wind like the way of the world your servant Sir when he could kill him in his heart when these things comes home to thee thou wilt be struck dead and thy mouth be stopped and this is a great power that stops the rage of flesh Secondly this way of prayer or calling upon the name of the Lord will kill thy distempers as they arise and wil keep thy heart in peace this I know if thou wilt beleeve anothers testimony for now the name of the flesh is spied out and the poyson of it killed for when once Reason begins to enlighten thee he will be thy keeper The name of the Lord likewise is hereby advanced first within thy selfe thou fearest and tremblest before him Secondly outwardly thou art moved to act righteousnesse to others from the savour of this sweet oyntment Now that man doth not live lesse or more in the practise of those two rules laid down did never pray in all his life though he use the words of prayer every day Words and actions going together are the declaration of a sincere heart but words in prayer without acting according to creation as the generall practise is are declarations
covetous rashnesse can judge of nothing I my selfe being branded by some of your mouthes as guilty of horrid blasphemy for denying all these as you say though you cannot prove it was drawn forth by the Spirit to write what here followes which I leave to the spirituall men all the world over to judge Whether you your selves be not the very men that doe deny God Scriptures and Ordinances of God and that turnes the tr●thes of the Spirit into a lye by leaving the letter and walking in your own inferences and so by holding forth spirituall things by that imagination of the flesh and not by the law and testimony of the Spirit within and let them likewise judge whether those men you count such blasphemers be not those men that doth advance God Christ Scriptures and Ordinances in the spirituality of them When the Apostolicall gifts ceased which was to speak from an inward testimony of what they heard and saw as the Father did will it should cease for a time times and halfe time or fourty two moneths then began the false Christs and false Prophets to arise that speak from tradition of what they had read in Books expounding those writings from their imaginary thoughts getting a power from the Magistrate to protect them and to punish such as speak from the testimony of Christ within them which flesh is willin● to oppose And then the flesh began to be advanced above the Spirit from the time that the universall Bishop was raised to this very hour and so in every government which imagination hath set up since that time false Christs and false Prophets have arose from your Schools and have filled the Earth with darknesse so that now when the King of righteousnesse begins to arise and fill the earth with his light the Earth growes mad full of rage but though flesh be angry assure your selves Christ will take the Kingdome and rule in flesh And here I rest A servant to the Faher Gerrard Winstanly Oct. 16. 1648. To the gentle Reader DEAR friend it is slanderously reported by reason whereof some of you may be troubled to hear that Chamberlain the Redding man called after the flesh William Everard doth hold blasphemous opinions as to deny God and Christ and Scriptures and prayer and they call him a deceiver and many ●ilt by names and upon this report of the raging multitude some that call themselves Ministers and some common people the Bayliffs of Kingston have put him in prison as he came through their Towne and took a nights lodging and hath kept him there this weeke upon these supposed scandals Now I was moved to write what here followes as a vindication of the man and my selfe being slandered as well as he by some of the Ministers having been in his company that all the world may judge of his and my inn●cency in these particular scandals and that it may appear as it will upon tryall that the parish Ministers themselves and every one that followes their way of worship doth turn the Scriptures into a lye by leaving the old letter that the Apostles writ and new moulding those Scriptures into their own language walking according to their owne inferences and conjectures thereupon and by holding forth God and Christ to be at a distance from men they are the only men that deny God and Christ and Scriptures and Ordinances walking in the practise of their own invention to which ignorant flesh closeth without examination and so the greatest theeves cry stop theefe first And here I shall adde one word as an accompt wherefore I use the word Reason instead of the word God in my writings as you shall meet mithall If I demand of you who made all things And your answer God If I demand what is God You answer the spirituall power that as he made so he governs and preserves all things so that the sum of all is this God is the chief Maker or Governor this maker governor is God Now I am lost in this wheel that runs round and lies under darknes But if you demand of mee why I say Reason did make and doth governe and preserve all things I answer Reason is that living power of light that is in all things it is the salt that savours all things it is the fire that burns up drosse and so restores what is corrupted and preserves what is pure he is the Lord our righteousnesse It lies in the bottom of love of justice of wisdome for if the Spirit Reason did not uphold and moderate these they would be madnesse nay they could not be called by them names for Reason guids them in order and leads them to their right end which is not to preserve a part but the whole creation But is mans reason that which you cal God I answer mans reasoning is a creature which fl●ws from that Spirit to this end to draw up man into himselfe it is but a candle lighted by that soul and this light shining through flesh is darkened by the imagination of flesh so that many times men act contrary to reason though they thinke they act according to reason By that light of Reason that is in man he may see a sutablenesse in many things but not in all things for the reason that acts in another man may see a weaknesse of reason that acts in me but now the Spirit Reason which I call God the Maker and Ruler of all things is that spirituall power that guids all mens reasoning in right order and to a right end for the Spirit Reason doth not preserve one creature and destroy onother as many times mens reasonings doth being blind by the imagination of the flesh but it hath a regard to the whole creation and knits every creature together into a onenesse making every creature to be an upholder of his fellow and so every one is an assistant to preserve the whole and the neerer that mans reasoning comes to ●his the more spirituall they are the farther off they be the more selfish and fleshy they be Now this word Reason is not the alone name of this spirituall power but every one may give him a name according to that spirituall Power that they feel and see rules in them carrying them forth in actions to preserve their fellow creatures as well as themselves Therefore some may call him King of righteousnesse and Prince of peace some may call him Love and the like but I can and I doe call him Reason because I see him to be that living powerfull light that is in righteousnesse making righteousnesse to be righteousnesse or justice to be justice or love to be love for without this modera●er and ruler they would be madnesse nay the selfewillednesse of the flesh and not that which we call them Lastly I am made to change the name from God to Reason because I have been held under darknesse by that word as I see many people are and likewise that people
may rest no longer upon words without knowledge but hereafter may look after that spirituall p●wer and know what it is that rules them and which doth rule in and over all and which they call their God and Governour or preserver And this I hope will be a sufficient accompt why I alter the word what here followes may give more light into the thing Gerrard Winstanly Reade and judg let flesh be silent let the Spirit be honored TRUTH LIFTING UP HIS HEAD ABOVE SCANDALS I Have said That whosoever worships God by hear-say as others tels th●m knowes not what God is from light within himselfe or that thinks God is in the heavens above the skyes and so prayes to that God which he imagines to be there and every where but from any testimony within he knowes not how nor where this man worships his owne imagination which is the Devill But he that is a true worshipper must know who God is and how he is to be wor●hipped from the power of light shining in him if ever he have true peace And from hence a report is raised and is frequent in the mouthes of the teachers That I deny God And therefore First I shall give account what I see and know is to be and let the understanding in heart judge me Qu. W●at is God Ans. I answer He is the incomprehensible spirit Reason who as he willed that the Creation should flow out of him so he governes the whole Creation in righteousnesse peace and moderation And from hence he is called The Lord because there is none above him And he is called The Father because as the whole creation came out of him so he is the life of the whole creation by whom every creature doth subsist Qu. When can a man call the Father his God Ans. When he feels and sees by experience that the spirit which made the flesh doth governe and rule King in his flesh And so can say I rejoyce to feele and see my flesh made subject to the spirit of righteousnesse Qu. But may not a man call him God till hee have this experience Ans. No For if he doe he lyes and there is no truth in him for whatsoever rules as King in his flesh that is his God As for example If pride envy frowardnesse hypocrisy uncleanesse feare of men more then feare of God or covetousnesse If all or any one of these rule and governe thee either all or any one of these is thy God and so thou worships the flesh and that Devill is thy God And the spirit of righteousnesse is not thy God for thou dost not yet submit unto him Qu. But I hope that the Father is my Governor and therefore may I not call him God Ans. Hope without ground is the hope of the hypocrite thou canst not call him God till thou be able in pure experience to ●ay Thy flesh is subject to him for if thy knowledge be no more but Imagination or ●houghts it is of the Devill and not of the ●ather or if thy knowledge be meerly from what thou hast read or heard from others it ● of the flesh not of the spirit Qu. When then may I call him God or the migh● Governour and doe not descend my selfe Ans. When thou art by that spirit made ● see him rule and governe not onely in ●ee but in the whole creation so that thou ●e●s and sees that the spirituall power that ●●vernes in thee hath a community in thee ●●th the whole globe and thou art made subject to that spirit of righteousnesse peace meeknesse and love who doth subject all things to himselfe and brings all things into a one-nesse Now thou mayst call him God warrantably for thou knowest him to be the mighty governour And that the government of the whole creation is upon the shoulders of that spirit to which thou art ma●e experimentally subject Waite upon him till he teach thee All that reade doe not understand the spirit only sees truth and lives in it Qu. But how shall I know the spirit of the Father so that I may call him God Ans. The spirit of the Father is pure Reason which as he made so he knits the whole creation together into a one-nesse of life and moderation every creature sweetly in love lending their hands to preserve each other and so upholds the whole fabrique Qu. Where doth this Reason dwell which yo● call Father and Lord of all Ans. He dwels in every creature according to the nature and being of the creature but supreamely in man Therefore man i● called a Rationall creature and the well-beloved son of the Father because by hi● creation he is to live in the light of Reason But when he acts unrighteously he lives without Reason and so contrary to his creation as a man But when he acts righteously then he lives in Reason and Reason in him and so according to his creation to the honour of his Maker Qu. Give some example how Reason made and governes the creation Ans. Take these among many and yet you shall finde that the further you dive into Reason the more incomprehensible hee will appeare for he is infinite in wisdome and mighty in power past finding out by flesh till the flesh be made to see light in his light The clouds send downe raine and there is great undeniable reason in i● for otherwise the earth could not bring f●●●● grasse and fruit The earth sends forth g●●sse or else cattle could not be preserved The cattle feed upon the grasse and there is Reason in it for else man could not be preserved The Sunne gives his light and heate or else the creation could not subsist So that the mighty power Reason hath made these to give life and preservation one to another Reason makes a man to live moderately and peaceably with all he makes a man just and righteous in all his actings he kils frowardnesse envy and pride in a man and why where lyes the Reason Because this man stands in need of others and others stand in need of him and therefore makes a man to doe as he would be done unto Indeed Reason is of such a mighty power that when he rules King in the flesh he governes all things in righteousnesse and there is no complainings or cryings out against oppression There is nothing but unreasonablenesse in all the powers of the flesh as in coveteousnesse pride envy and the like and hereby the flesh brings misery and ruine upon it self But pure and perfect Reason makes every thing to sing and rejoice in righteousnesse When this King reignes the City is glad Qu. What Reason is there that I should have such temptations within and afflictions without Ans. Reason sees it fit you should be befitted by your owne lusts which you have chose to delight in that hereby you being inwardly tormented and shamed you may be drawne to owne and submit to the spirit that gives peace and liberty and so for ever after
hate the motions of the flesh Qu. But what reason is there that other men should oppresse me Ans. Still to let you see your owne unrighteousnesse to others therefore other unrighteous men are suffered to deale unrighteously with you to let you see that the wayes of unrighteousnesse brings nothing but paine and when you are brought to this the spirit which hath beene sleighted by you is now owned and honoured Secondly Reason suffers the flesh of other men to tyrannize over you for a time that in the day when he will sit upon the throne all flesh may be silent before him and confesse his Justice to be righteous upon them for their unrighteousnesse one to another Now Reason suffers all these things to be that the flesh may forsake himselfe he seeing in Reasons light that he being nothing but envy and misery to himselfe and so may returne to the spirit and submit thereunto in whom his life and peace lyes Qu. And what is the end that Reason hath in all this Ans. To destroy the powers of the flesh which leades creatures into divers waies of opposition one against another and to bring all into pure experience of that sweet rest and peace that is in the unity of himselfe the one spirit Qu. Is Reason to be seene in every creature Ans. Yes Qu. What Reason is to be seene in a Horse Ans. Reason carries him along to eate his meat that he may doe worke for the use of man Qu. But the horse doth not know this Reason that rules him Ans. No Neither hath any creature that priviledge to see and know that Reason rules him but man Therefore he is said to be the Lord of creatures because he knowes how to govern them by reason that is within himselfe Qu. But all men doe not see and know Reason to rule in them Ans. No Therefore some are called unreasonable men and though they are in the shape of men yet their actings are like their horses and they know the spirit that rules them no more then their horses But now when a man knowes that this King of righteousnesse Reason doth dwell in him and rule in him to which all the powers of his flesh are made subject which indeed is Christ dwelling in the flesh Now he may be said to be a perfect man for he acts like a man righteously and so as the Father lives in him he lives in the Father Qu. Who is he that cals men to an account for their unrighteousnesse Ans. It is the mighty spirit Reason who is King of righteousnesse and King of peace wherefore art thou proud saith Reason Wherefore art thou covetous Wherefore art thou envious and bitter spirited against thy fellow creatures Wherefore art thou unclean Ans. The Flesh answers It is to please my selfe Qu. Reason answers Didst thou make thy selfe that thou shouldst live to thy selfe Or did not I the Lord make thee to live unto me I tell you when Reason puts these questions to the heart the heart will be struck dead Qu. What is it to walke righteously or in the sight of Reason An. First When a man lives in all acts of love to his fellow creatures feeding the hungry cloathing the naked relieving the oppressed seeking the preservation of others as well as himselfe looking upon himselfe as a fellow creature though he be Lord of all creatures to all other creatures of all kinds and so doing to them as he would have them doe to him to this end that the Creation may be upheld and kept together by the spirit of love tendernes and onenesse and that no creature may complaine of any act of unrighteousnesse and oppression from him Secondly when a man lives in the knowledge and love of the Father seeing the Father in every creature and so loves delights obeyes and honours the Spirit which he sees in the creature and so acts rightly towards that creature in whom hee sees the spirit of the Father for to rest according to its measure And whereas before he exercised outward senses to follow creatures now he lives in the exercise of his spirituall senses and hee doth rightly and he knowes wherefore for his soul now sees feels tasts smels and hears the Father spiritually in all things and so doth all things in love and cheerfull obedience to the Spirit that discovers all things to him inwardly whereby he is made able to doe acts of righteousnesse outwardly This man that is thus drawn up knowes what it is to live in community with the Globe and to live in community with the Spirit of the Globe In the next place I said that Jesus Christ at a distance from thee will not save thee and that it is not the humane flesh but the Spirit in that body that is the Saviour and the Seed that must bruise the Serpents head in mankind And hence they say I deny Christ Therefore I shall give accompt here unto by these questions Qu. What is Jesus Christ I answer He is a man taken up to live wholly in the Father or a meek spirit drawn up to live in the light of Reason And here note two things 1. That Jesus Christ that dyed at Jerusalem by the hands of the Jewes he was the first in whom the Father did appeare bodily to dwell in and that humane body was the Lambe that answered all the types of Moses Law But that body tooke its name from the spirit that dwelt within it Qu. What was that Spirit Ans. He was the spirit of meeknesse and humility which saved humane flesh from all distempers that ariseth from pride or covetuousnesse and this is the Child Jesus a Saviour for he destroyes the covetuousnesse and pride in flesh frees the creature from all distempring fears and passions and rules King in meeknesse and quiet humility 2. He was the spirit of the Father that lived in the ex●rcise and use of all the spirituall senses and ther●fore as the Father was said to live in him so he was said to live in the Father Qu. But shall not that humane body of Christ save me by his death Ans The Spirit in that humane body is the Saviour The flesh profits nothing the patient death of that humane body declares the exellent power of the Spirit within it to be the alone Saviour of humane flesh from the curse and power of darknesse that workes and rules in it and so hath taken it prisoner And therefore when the same Anointing or Spirit that was sent downe into that body is sent down into yours changing your vile bodies and making them like that glorious body killing all the cursed powers in the flesh making your flesh subject to the Spirit now you are become one with Christ and with the Father which is your salvation Qu. But shall I not looke upon that body which was called Iesus Christ and expect salvation from him Ans. Jesus Christ at a distance from thee will never save thee but a Christ within is thy
Saviour and therefore Paul after he had looked upon the Lambe along time that is looked upon Christ at a distance from himselfe he saw that would bring him no peace therefore saith he Though I have known Christ after the flesh yet henceforth know I him no more for now the mystery of God that hath been kept secret from ages and generations past is in these last daies revealed which is Christ in you the pope of glory Qu. But was not that body killed laid in the earth and raised again from the dead and ascended up to the Father into Heaven Ans. He was killed by the curse that ruled in the Jewes and was laid in the earth here was the wisdome and power of the Father seen that though all the powers of hell or covetous proud flesh did combine together to oppresse and then to kill a body wherein he himselfe dwelt bodily yet they could not distemper him for he was still patient and he was not heard to complain Qu. Wherein was his wisdome and power seene in this Ans. Hereby hee gives testimony to the World that it is he himself that is the Seed that bruises the Serpents head that is in mankinde for his spirit being so powerfull in flesh kils the spirit of venome that is in flesh and that body being laid in the earth purifieth the earth and purges it from that curse that man had filled it with by his unrighteousnesse and so his spirit doth spirit the Earth in righteousnesse Q. Did man fill the Earth with poyson and the curse A. Yea after he refused to live after the Spirit his Maker and made joyce to live upon the objects of the Creation he then dyed and corrupted and fell into all venimous and stinking unrighteousnesse and as his body went to the earth he did still poyson and corrupt the earth and caused it to bring forth poysonous Vipers Todes and Serpents and Thornes and Bryars For the curse being first falen upon mankinde through man it fell upon the other creatures and the Earth was cursed for his fake and the poyson of mans unrighteous body dunging the Earth filled the grasse and herbs with strong unsavory spirits that flowed from him whereby the cattell feeding comes to be made bitter spirited and mad one against another For the Ayre and Earth is all poysoned and the curse dwels in both through mans unrighteousnesse he that should have kept within order being made Lord of creatures he put the Creation out of order by forsaking his Maker and by acting according to the flesh Now this mighty spirituall man of righteousnes Jesus Christ doth purify humane flesh again and so restoring the head first doth new spirit the Creation and brings all into order again taking away the bitternesse and curse and making the whole Creation to be of one heart and one Spirit Q. But it is said that his body rose again and ascended up through the cloudes into the skies which is called Heaven or place of Glory where the Father dwels A. This speech hath blinded the understandings of many for the Father is not confined to any one particular place for he is in every place and in every creature and where Hee dwels in cleare manifestations there is Heaven and the higher manifestations the higher Heavens Now the body of Christ is where the Father is in the earth purifying the Earth and his Spirit is entred into the whole creation which is the heavenly glory where the Father dwels which is a glory above the flesh and where he rules King and Lord in and over all the Creation purging out all strong spirited powers that causes sorrow and bringing all into the unity of that one Spirit himself So that this Jesus Christ or mighty man that saves us is not in one particular place but every where And this certainly to me is very cleare That whereas the Apostles saw Christ arise and ascend and were witnesses of his Resurrection it was onely a declaration in vision to them of the Spirits rising up for death and hel and darknesse and sorrow could not hold him under he saw no corruption for as soon as that one body in which he was confined for a time was laid low he rose presently up again in the bodies of the Apostles so began to spread in the Earth and when his set time is expired that the Beast or flesh shall reign no more Then he will spread himselfe in sons and daughters from East to West from North to South and never cease encreasing till this vine hath filled the Earth And truly this is great comfort to me that envy could not kill that Spirit but though it killed that body through an appointed permission yet the spirit rose up and shewed himself and went to his Father that is entred into the Creation to purge it from the curse and to spread himselfe in sons and daughters of the Earth that by him their flesh being made subject and saved from the curse might by him become one with him and with his Father that is become one in spirit with him and enjoy communion with the Spirit that is in the whole Globe Qu. But how shall I know that Christ dwels in ●e Ans. It is the testimony of the Spirit it ●elfe that must give you satisfaction for ●hat which is a testimony within me is not ●ours till the same Spirit make it yours ●herefore you are to waite with a quiet and ●umble spirit till the Father be pleased to ●each you and manifest himselfe to you ●nd then you shall know what I speake I ●peake not of my selfe but what I have re●eived from the Father Qu. You seem to say that the body of Christ ●as laid in the earth and remains there but the ●criptures say that he saw no corruption how doth ●is agree Ans. His body was laid in the Earth as ●ther dead bodies of men are but it lay not ●n the Earth as other dead bodies doe for o●her dead bodies lay there corrupting the Creation but he rose up and purified the Creation death or curse could not hold his ●ody under its power Qu. What doe you mean by Creation in this ●nce Answ I mean fire water earth and aire ●f which four elements the whole creation is made and mankind is made up of them all Now when the first man fell he corrupted the whole creation fire water earth and aire and still as the branches of his body went to the earth the creation was more and more corrupted by the multiplicities of bodies that stil saw corruption for none rose up above the curse but all lay under it Now when the body of Jesus Christ went to the earth that body likewise being made of fire water earth and ayre he purified the whole creation and rose up and saw no corruption as others did Quest But how can he be said to be laid in the earth and remaine there and yet rise up out of it purifying the creation
Answ As his body was laid by the hands of his enemies in the earth as dead carrion as they thought like one of themselves when they die but his body corrupted not the creation but rose up above corruption purging it out Qu. Explaine your meaning Ans. His body being made of the four Elements which were corrupted by man in whom they all dwelt they are restored again from that bondage of corruption by the body of Christ in whom they all dwelt likewise As thus his breath rose up above the corruption of the Ayre purifying the Ayre his moysture rose up above the corruption of the waters purifying the water his heat and warmth rose up above the corruption of the fire cleansing the fire and his flesh and bones rose up above the corruption of the earth and stones purifying of them and so he spreading himselfe in the body of the Creation took of the curse so that the foundation of restoration of all things was laid in and by him which when it is manifested then man kinde shall see the glory of it and till that time the whole Creation groaneth and travelleth in paine waiting for the manifestation of the Sons of God Q. I but the Apostles saw him after he was risen and touched him and saw him ascend upwards Ans. The declaration of Scripture doth point out the mystery of Christs spirituall ●ising and the exaltation of his spirituall power over the flesh and over the corruption that is in the Creation for the whole Scriptures are but a report of spirituall my●teries held forth to the eye of flesh in ●ords but to be seene in the substantiall ●atter of them by the eye of the Spirit and ●herefore the Apostle might well say they saw touched Christ for their very bodies and mindes were changed and made like to his glorious body for they were made new creatures and were raised up above corruption which was no other but Christ rising up in them and lifting up himselfe in their fight and feeling above the flesh Quest Why then I perceive that as the body of the first man was a representation of the whole Creation and did corrupt it so the body of Christ was a representation of the whole Creation and restores it from corruption and brings all into the unity of the Father again Ans. This is very true for in this particular lies the mystery of the Fall and the restoration of all things again Q. But whither went the Spirit of Christ Ans. To his Father that is entred into the spirit of the whole Creation into that Spirit that breathed all forth of himselfe and that governs all by himselfe which is Reason and so is become one with him and being lifted up will draw the whole Creation to the spirit of onenes with himselfe and with his Father As a bucket of water first taken out of the Sea and standing alone for a time is afterwards powred into the Sea again and becomes one with the Sea And this is the Seed that comes to bruise the Serpents head and when his work was done in that one particular person hee returned backe again to his Father from whence he came and now sends down his Spirit and drawes up Sonnes and daughters yea the whole Creation into himselfe And truly this is great comfort to me that whereas formerly there was not a man found that could remove the curse but every one still increased the curse now there is a man found that hath killed the curse in part and the virtue of that sweet oyntment shall cleanse the whole and this worke is now breaking out for the Father will make the Creation to know it by experience and it shall be hid no longer And this points out the mystery of the first Adam and the second Adam or the first Man and second Man which the Father Reason was pleased should spring up in mankinde Q. What doe you mean by the first Adam or first man Ans. He is a preparer to hold forth three names or titles of the one perfect power of darknesse and yet a son that Reason hath brought forth But this son is said to be of the earth earthy for he is a son that feeds lives and delights himselfe altogether in and upon the objects of the earth endeavourin to make himself a Lord over his fellow creatures in unrighteousnesse seeking to advance himselfe though it be to others ruine and this man hath lift up his heel against his Maker and knowes him not Qu. Is this Adam one single person or branch of humane flesh Ans. Every particular branch of mankind living upon the objects of the creation and rejecting their maker are the linage or generation of the first man yea being bound up all together they make up but the one first Adam Qu. Declare more plaine what this first man is Ans. He is that mighty power of flesh that leades flesh to live upon it selfe and not to live upon its maker it followes the way of the flesh with greedinesse and jeeres and ejects the spirit And this is called a mighty man because he being to act his part in the great world first as Father Reason will have it He hath drawne all flesh into disobedience to the spirit And this Adam hath beene very fruitfull he hath filled the earth with himself and covered all with his darknesse For looke upon every man and woman in the world that lives upon the ob●ects of the creation and not upon the spirit in the creation and they are but branches of the first man and then put them all together into one lumpe and they make up still but the first man perfect an earthy man that knowes not the spirit and therefore when you see a man wholly delighting himselfe in the enjoyment of fellow creatures you may call him truly Adam or the first man Qu. What is the spirit in the Creation Ans. It is a meeke and loving spirit liveing in the light and strength of reason holding up the whole creation in a onenesse of sweet compliency in every creature according to its place and office Qu. What are those three names of one perfect power of darknesse that the first man Adam was a preparer of Ans. First The King of darknesse or aspiring power of the flesh that lifts up his heele against his Maker but yet lies within and acts not Secondly The beastly son that arises up from that rebelling power and that is Man that holds forth this rebellion to fellow creatures for now rebellion is broke out and Reasons law is violated the creatures flesh seekes to honour it selfe and hath forsaken his Maker here is the Father and the Son of darknesse Thirdly When the whole earth is filled with this disobedience so that you cannot meet with a branch of mankinde but hee lives upon the objects of the creation and not upon the spirit This makes the first man perfect in darknesse and the whole world is filled with uncleane
breathing Here is Father Son and uncleane spirit or King and Beast and bottomlesse pit Three names but one power of darknesse filling the earth and corrupting the creation more and more All this is but the first man that Reason would have to governe the earth Qu. Why doth the Father suffer this first man to fill the earth so abundantly with unrighteousnesse Ans. For two reasons First That mankinde may see that though it spring up to an innumerable multitude of sonnes and daughters all living upon creature objects not upon the spirit are but still the one first man that wearied out himselfe in vaine and finds no true peace thereby Secondly That the second man may have the more glory when in the fulnesse of time he shall come and pull the Kingdome out of the first mans hand and tread him under foot and rule righteously in flesh himselfe Yea and to begin this great worke when all the nations of the earth are filled with the wit and strength of the first man who fights against the rising up of the Second man with violence and therefore is it said when the Son of man comes shall he finde faith on earth No he must bring it along with him and new spirit the creation Qu. What Are all troubles sinnes and sorrowes the worke of the first man Ans. Two things are to be observed in the first man First his revolt from the spirit in making choyce to live upon the creation and not upon the spirit and hereby now the law of Reason is broke And this is one thing that such as are of the generation of the first mans flesh doth doe Secondly Note the misery that this first man flesh doth bring upon himselfe by so doing he puls crosses and sorrowes within upon himselfe and troubles without for his unrighteous breath corrupts the aire and raises hurtfull winds and weather and his unrighteous flesh corrupts the earth and causes it to send forth hurtfull crops and poysonous Vipers these are the fruits of his earthy choyce and labours and therefore when you see misery in the world then say this is the fruit of living upon the creatures and not upon the spirit Well From the beginning to this day Reason hath suffered the first man to reigne and to fill the earth therefore is it said The first man is of the earth earthy and he fils the earth as one beane multiplying every yeare fils the earth with that graine which is but the multiplication of it selfe Adam or first man is looked upon in a three-fold sense First Adam or first man that went astray from his Maker which lived upon earth many thousand yeares agoe which the eyes of every man is upon Secondly Every man and woman that live upon the objects of the creation and not in and upon the spirit that made the creation is a sonne and daughter of the first man and being put altogether make up but the one first man so that we may see Adam every day before our eyes walking up and downe the street But Thirdly I see the two Adams in every man The first Adam hath his time to rule first in me when the chiefe powers in me leads me forth to looke after objects and to delight in them more then in the spirit And this first man must act his part in me till the fulnesse of time come that the Father is pleased that the second Adam Christ shall come and take the Kingdome out of his hand and deliver me from his bondage and so rule King of righteousnesse for ever after in mee Qu. What is the second man or second Adam Ans. He is a preparer likewise to hold forth three clear names in one perfect power of life who is called the well-beloved Son for this Son is said to be the Lord from heaven or a mighty man governing the earth in righteousnesse from the strength of pure Reason not placing his delight upon the objects of the creation as the first man did But upon the enjoyment of that mighty power that made the creation and that upheld it by himselfe Qu. Is this second man one single person Ans. First This second man is a meek spirit drawn up to live in the light and strength of pure Reason Now as the first man ruling in flesh drew mankinde from his maker so this second man ruling in flesh drawes mankinde back againe to his maker And this second man is called a man anointed or mankind living in the light and strength of pure Reason the essentiall Father And so the whole bulke of mankinde when they shall be drawne up to live in the unity of the one spirit is the second man every son and daughter of this spirit is of the lynage of the second man Qu. But shall this second man fill the earth as the first man did Answ Yes Reason hath so determined that as the first man filled the earth with unrighteousnesse and corrupted all So this second shall take the Kingdom in the latter dayes and raign King of righteousnesse in flesh and spread as far in restoring al things as the first man corrupted all things Q. But hath this second man never ruled the earth Answ He hath appeared in the earth but the first man having a limited time given him by the Father would never let him ris● up to rule but still pressed him downe by persecution or death he did never generally rule over the earth as the first man hath done but hath still been as a servant Qu. But is his time now to come to rule the earth and fill it with himself Answ Yes and shall have as large a priviledge to sill the earth as the first man had surely and he wil change times and custom● fil the earth with a new law wherin dwels righteousnes and peace And justice and judgment shal be the upholders of his kingdom And he shal fill the earth with himself as a corn of wheat multiplying every yeare fils the earth with that graine so that all live in the light and strength of pure Reason in righteousnes are but the sons daughters of the second man And being looked upon in the bulke they being made to be all of one heart and one spirit They are but the second man still that fils all and is in all though they overspread the earth And this is the generation of the second man or second Adam mankinde living in and upon his maker from the power within himself Qu. What are those three names which this second man declares to be one perfect power of life First the Father Reason that made all things before the creation was brought forth he was not known Secondly the Son and this is that part of the creation that holds him purely forth to the view of others Now truth begins to shine and Reason begins to be honoured by an humane body so that here is Father and Son Thirdly when the whole earth is filled with
the one spirit this makes the second man perfect for corruption and curse is removed and the whole earth is filled with holy breathing all acting and living in righteousnesse And this is Jesus Christ the second man They say I deny the Gospell and the doctrine of it hereunto I give this accompt Qu. What is the Gospell Ans. It is the Father himselfe that is the Word and glad tydings that speaks peace inwardly to poore soules Qu. But are not the writings of the Apostles and Prophets the Gospell Ans. These writings are the report or declaration of the Gospell which are to cease when the Lord himselfe who is the everlaststing Gospell doth manifest himselfe to rule in the flesh of sonnes and daughters Qu. But did not Paul say This is the word of the Gospell which we preach and so left those words in writing Ans. It is true his writings are the word of it or the report of it but it is not the thing it selfe for when it was reported that the Father would dwell in the flesh and destroy the Serpent this report savoured sweet But when man comes to see and feel and know that the Father dwels and rules in him This is farre more sweet This is to enjoy the Gospell himselfe The word of life within and this shall never cease but endures for ever Qu. But how doe you know that this is the Gospell Ans. I know it by the testimony that is within my selfe and by the sweet peaceable and soule-satisfying rest that I have through communion with the spirit The Lord our righteousnesse In the midst of the mad rage of the world Secondly For satisfaction to the world I desire all men to take the Record and search those Scriptures for they are they that doe testifie of the truth hereof as well as they testified of Christ after the flesh to be the Lambe And this is the mystery and testimony of the Scriptures The spirit dwelling and ruling in flesh The declaration or report of words out of the mouth or pen of men shall cease but the spirit endures for ever from whence those words were breathed as when I have the thing promised the word of the promise ceases Qu. What is the lively testimony or appearance of the everlasting Gospell to dwell in flesh Ans. I answer Justice and Judgement are the two witnesses or the manifest appearance of the spirit or the pure light of Reason teaching a man both to know what is righteous and to doe righteously And when these two rule in man then is flesh subject to the spirit Qu. But I have heard men say That the Scrip●ures are not onely the word of God but God himselfe for the word and spirit goe together as I the beginning was the Word and The Word was God Ans. If that very written word were God himselfe truly God then would mightily be torne in pieces every day by the bad interpretations of imaginary flesh But I answer The spirit himselfe is the Word This is the power that tooke flesh and dwelt amongst us And the Scriptures are the testimony of those men to whom this secret was revealed by which testimony within they were made able to give First A report that such a mystery as God manifest in the flesh should break forth and appeare in the world in a child that should be borne of a Virgin and so all the writings of the Prophets foretold the coming of the man-child the Messiah The Lambe of God And so when the Pharisees told Christ he was a deceiver He answered I am he and unlesse that you believe that I am he you shall dye in your sinnes and search the Scriptures of the Prophets and you shall see that they tes●ifie of mee that I am the Messiah the Man-child the Lamb that am to answer all Moses types and the Prophet whom the Father hath sent For I came not to doe my owne will but the will of him that sent me Secondly The writings of the Apostles doe justifie the Prophets and declare posi●ively this is the Christ the Son of the Fa●her well-beloved we ate and dranke with ●im we saw him and heard him and were ●ye-witnesses that the Rulers of the Jewes ●lew him and that the spirit raised him from the death Qu. But doe the Apostles writings report no ●ore but this Ans. Yes As they declared when they ●aw and heard how the spirit dwelt bodily ● that humane flesh or single man Jesus Christ So they have declared by the same ●estimony that the same spirit that ruled in ●im should in the latter dayes be poured out ●pon sonnes and daughters and shall spread ● the earth like the shining of the Sun from ●ast to West And this is that which this mouth and ●en of mine doe testifie of to all that heare ●ee that the same spirit that hath layne ●id under flesh like a corne of wheat for an ●ppointed time under the clods of earth is ●ow sprung out and begins to grow up a ●uitfull vine which shall never decay but ● shall encrease till he hath filled the earth ●his is the Kingdome of God within man This is the graine of mustard seed which is little in the beginning but shall become a mighty tree This is the fire that shall dry and burne up all the drosse of mans worke and turne all things into his owne nature This is that spirit which is broke out that will bring mankinde into one heart an● one minde For assure your selves I know what I speake The Thorne bush is burning but the Vine is flourishing The Ashes of the Thorne bush is laid at the root and feet o● the Vine and it growes abundantly Now search the Scriptures for this likewise for they doe testifie of the sending o● the spirit into the flesh of sons and daughters and they testifie of the utter destruction of the man of sinne the flesh with all hi● curse power inwardly and outwardly Now he that doth jeere the spirit or denies tha● the spirit shall come and rule in flesh in son● and daughters as he did in that one man Jesus Christ is an Antichrist and a Traitor to the Father let him be whom he will Therefore le●rne to put a difference betweene the Report and the thing Reported of The spirit that made flesh is he that is reported of The writings and words of Saints is the report These reports being taken hold of by corrupt flesh that would rule are blemished by various translations interpretations and constructions that King flesh makes ●ut those sons and daughters in whom the ●pirit rests cannot be deceived but judgeth ●ll things They say I deny the doctrine of the Gos●ell I shall give this account to that Q. What is the doctrine of the Gospel of Jesus Christ Ans. What Jesus Christ is I have shewed ●efore The doctrine or report of h●m is ●his That mankinde shall be by him re●onciled to his Maker and be made one in ●pirit
with him that is that the curse shall ●e removed and the power of it killed and consumed And that created flesh by that mighty power the man of truth should be made subject to the spirit that made it so ●hat the spirit which is the Father may be●ome all in all the chiefe ruler in flesh And truly this is but according to the ●urrent of the whole Scripture that in the ●ay of Christ every one shall be made of one ●eart and one spirit that is all shall bee ●rought in to acknowledge the Father to ●bey him walke humbly before him and ●ive in peace and love in him This is the ●octrine of Christ and the Gospell This is ●lad tydings to heare of But when you are ●ade to enjoy this doctrine as yours then you shall know what it is to know the Son and what it is to be set free by the Sonne therfore wait upon the Father till he mak● forth himself in you Qu. I waite that 's true but I must use the meanes Answ That which you call meanes doth harden your hearts and blind your eyes i● shuts you out from sweet enjoyment tha● is to run after men for teachings I speak● not rashly I speak what I know and yo● shall finde before your soules taste of tru● peace that whosoever takes those Scriptures and makes exposition upon them from thei● imagination and ●els you that is the wor● of God and hath seen nothing That they are the false Christs and false Prophets an● their way of teaching is meer deceit both to your soules and to your purses for now in this day of Christ which is begun and which will have a greater appearance ere long in the great world Men must speak their own experienced words and must not speake thoughts For thoughts and studies and imagination of flesh are the men that are found gathering sticks upon this sabbath day and these are stoned to death by the Power that is arising in some already and shall be stoned to death in all that the Lord alone may be exalte in this day of his Power Qu. Must I use no meanes at all or what meanes must I use An. These 3 first let your chief endeavour be to act according to your creation that is to doe as you would be done unto by all creatures as I have shewed and I le tell you this is as needfull a gospell doctrine to be practised as any I know for the present for I le assure you the world is at such a passe yea and among imaginary professors especially that I know not who I can say is a sincere hearted friend so that I am sure the sonne of man at his coming finds no faith in earth neither in my flesh nor in the flesh of other he brings it with him and gives it to us Secondly waite upon the Father with a meek spirit for his teaching And you shall find it a very hard thing to performe these ●wo meanes for the flesh is both very un●ighteous to seek it self and it is very hasty ●o have all knowledge peace and experience ●n a sudden it s so proud and hasty it will ●ot wait Thirdly if you would hear other men ●peak you may doe two things First read the record and there see what the testimony of the Apostles and Prophets your fellow servants were but do not alter their words by forceing a meaning till the Father teach you Secondly if you would hear then acquaint your selves with such as can speake from a testimony within for as they received what they have from the pure teachings of the Father so this second hand teaching will be pure teaching to you but be sure you do not prefer this second hand teaching before the first for now the everlasting word and gospel must reveale himself to you or else you cannot be satisfied I have now discharged my service to the Father in this declaration remember what is tould you despise not the Fathers meanes by preferring the way and meanes of the flesh above the wayes of the Father They say I deny the Scriptures because I say that the Scriptures were not appointed for a rule to the world to walke by without the spirit but were the testimony of the Father in those men that writ them for the comfort and benefit of those that are drawn up into communion with the same spirit And to this I shall give this accompt Qu. What is the Law and Testimony which if a man speak not according to it it is because there is no light in him An. This Law and Testimony to which I must have recourse for my comfort is not the words or writings of other men without me But the spirit of the Father in me teaching me to know him by experience and when I can speake purely what I doe see and heare from the Father this is the Law and Testimony within me from which I speake and if I speak not from this Law within I have no knowledge in me Qu. But are not the Scriptures the Law and Testimony of the Father Answ It was the Law and Testimony of the spirit which rested in and upon the Prophets and Apostles for they writ what they saw in vision and they spake what they heard by voice speaking to them spiritually Qu. But are not those Scriptures the Law and Testimony for people to walk by in these dayes Answ No For this is to walke by the eyes of other men and the spirit is not so scanty that a dozen or 20 pair of eyes shall serve the whole world but every sonne and daughter as they are called children of light have light within themselves The same spirit that fils one fils all and makes the whole number of them according to their severall measures to be of one heart and one mind Qu. But may not men take these Scriptures and spend construction upon them and hold forth those constructions to others as perfect light by way of office An. I answer no neither reason nor Scripture allowes any man to speake any words but what he knowes positively to be truth And he that spends constructions thereupon speaking from his imagination he speaks from the flesh and devill and so he makes himself to be a traytor to the father inholding forth that to be truth which is no truth And a thief robber and unrighteous dealer with the Prophets and Apostles First in taking their words as his own and secondly in expounding their meaning and so putting his own meaning upon their words But yet he that hath the same spirit may speak the same word where the Father hath given him the same sight and experience for no man can safely tell another this is a positive truth of God till he have the same testimoniall experience within himself as the penmen of Scripture had and this I am sure all that stand up to teach by way of office have not therefore it is clear that the power that
sets up such teachers is not from the Father commanding but from the flesh being suffered by the Father for a time that when he comes to throw downe his enemies flesh may be shamed and he honoured That man that cannot speak the testimony of the Father no other way but from his book as he reads or from the mouth of another what he heares as the publike teachers doe speake by hearsay and not from experience and so declares himself to be a false Christ a false prophet that runs to teach others before he have any discovery of God within himself Qu. But are not the Scriptures the truths of God An. Yes for they declare that the spirit was the mighty governour of the flesh of those that writ them and so the truths of God the great governour in the pure experience of those penmen And I shall demand of you how you know that these Scriptures are the word of God in the sense you call them but the testimony of the spirit within your selves I say there is no way to know but by the spirit himself seeing there are so many expositions upon them which without doubt hath varied the copies if it were possible to see those very writings from the prophets and Apostles own pen which is not to be seen But when the spirit comes in he must nay he doth and will declare his own meaning And so the spirituall man judges all things and he himself is judged of no man he can judge the flesh and passe righteous judgement because he sees and knowes wh●t the flesh is The flesh cannot judge him for if he doe it is not righteous judging but rash censure Qu. What use is to be made of the Scriptures An. First they are or may be kept as a record of such truths as were writ not from imagination of flesh but from pure experience and teachings of the Father Secondly we are taught thereby to waite upon the Father with a meek and obedient spirit till he teach us and feed us with sincere milk as he taught them that wrote these Scriptures Thirdly when I look into that record of experimentall testimony and finde a sutable agreement betweene them and the feeling of light within my own soule now my joy is fulfilled And every man and woman may declare what they have received and so become preachers one to another For the Scriptures doth but declare the sending down of the spirit and how he shall rule in the earth in the latter dayes but they doe not declare every particular measure and beame of the spirits ruling for this the sons and daughters are to declare by their particular experiences as they are drawn up Qu. But when I read the Scriptures and findes a perswasion in my heart that they are true may I not owne them as a truth and speak them as a truth and speak them to others An. You may deliver the same words you reade which you are perswaded of but to passe construction and the meaning by way of office teaching others this you cannot do There is an imaginary perswasion grounded upon thoughts or as he conceives but this is a sandy foundation and deceiveth all the world Secondly there is an experimental perswasion grounded upon sight and feeling of the spirit of truth ruling king within him and this is the rock that will never fayl Qu. But did not the Apostles and Christ take texts of Scripture and expound them as Philip did to the Eunuch and Christ from the 61 Esay An. They did not preach and expound any text customarily as the parish gods do but such particular Scriptures as the oportune time and occasion served to declare Christ to be the lambe of God or the grea● prophet which the Father promised to send So that all the Scriptures of the ancient prophets which they spake from was only to make it appear that the Messias was come but they did not preach in setled parishes forcing the people by the hand of the magistrate to come and hear them and give them a maintenance for so doing under pain of punishment the Scriptures knowes no such custome or way to be used therefore whosoever lives in such a practise denies the Scripture and are enemies to Jesus Christ But now if any one take Scriptures that speak of the spirits ruling in flesh and so proves the truth of the Scripture by his own testimony or witnesse within himselfe this may be done but for any other way of expounding Scripture I know none neither will nor doth the Scripture warrant any other but what advances the spirit and throws down the flesh by the speakers own experience Qu. But may not the powers of a land compell their people some to preach and others to hear Scriptures expounded as the manner is in England An. I answer That power that compels is the little horne or dragon wheresoever it sits and that expounding is a flat denial of those Scriptures and treason against the spirit liberty is to be given to every one in the case for the kingdome of Christ hath an interest herein Lands and Kingdoms are most commonly governed more by the wisdome of the flesh then of the spirit and why because the spirit gave that power into the hand of flesh for a certain time and when the flesh is judged for his action the Lord wil condemn him for his unrighteous cruell self-seeking and oppressing government over his lambs and sheep The Powers of the Land punished Christ and his Apostles for holding forth their testimony of the Father which was within them but they did not compell any to hear them or to follow them it is an ●asyer thing for magistrates to be breaking forth against such as speak from a pure testimony then against such as speak from imaginary studies of the flesh both in regard of the powers of the flesh within them blinding their eyes and because of so many envious spirits against truth that will be flattering the magistrate and telling him tales of slander on purpose to incense him against the sincere hearted in the land because they hate them through ignorance that is in them not knowing the Majesty of the Lord that is in his serva●ts whom they despise Qu. What must the powers of a Land doe then in the matters of Religion as they call it An. First they must suffer every one that will quietly to keepe the record in their houses or to rerd it or speak of it one to another and they that find their own experience to suite therewith speaking from a pure testimony and walkes in all acts of righteousnesse towards his fellow creatures It is the charge which the Father hath put into the hand of the Magistrate to protect these from their oppression of unreasonable men Secondly if any man walk unrighteously towards his fellow creature in civil matters the Powers of a land must punish him according to the nature of his offence and so to be a