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A65475 A discovery of Sathan Who hath in man covered himself, by perswading men, that original sin is the corruption of the nature of every man, that is ingendred of the offspring of Adam: also, a demonstration of the Messiah in man, to whom the gathering of the people shall be, of whom Moses in the law and the prophets did write, Gen. 49.18. Isai.11.12. Written for the use of such that denyeth not themselves the use of reson and sense, and that are not wedded to their own perswasion. West, Robert, b. ca. 1613. 1668 (1668) Wing W1388; ESTC R217304 9,234 15

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A DISCOVERY OF SATHAN Who hath in Man Covered Himself by perswading Men that Original Sin is the Corruption of the Nature of every Man that is ingendred of the off-spring of Adam Also a Demonstration of the Messiah in Man to whom the gathering of the People shall be of whom Moses in the Law ●nd the Prophets did write Gen. 49.18 Isai 11.12 Written for the use of such that denyeth not themselves the use of Reason and Sense and that are not wedded to their own Perswasion An Epistle to the Reader I Charge thee Reader not to spend thy censures on thy loving friend whose great desires for nothing more than that Light should unmask the Whore and tear away her painted dress that all may see her nakedness then introduced there shall be new Heavens and Earth that all may see admiring much the glorious Frame and strange composition of the same then truth and justice shall appear throughout the World without all fear Darkness shall cease and Light break forth from East to West from South to North this is the time I long to see till then we never shall be free from envy malice and oppression and what so ever is called transgression The Author fain would teach all Men the ground of things by word or Pen that they may knows live and not die Christ in their Flesh Gods mistery Quest WHat have been talked of in times past to be Original sin Answ The Pelagians talk Original sin standeth in following of Adam as it is noted in the Ninth Article of the Church of England but the Church of England in that Article saith that it is the fault and conruption of the nature of every man that is ingendred of the off-spring of Adam This have been talked of to be Original sin Mark according unto holy Scriptures that which moves in man to move man to sin is not the corruption of our nature for that is passive but the power or motion of Sathan in our flesh which is active This is the Original of Sin for as 't is written sin is of the Devil 1 Joh. 3.8 Quest Is the motion of Sathan which is in our members sin Answ Yea for it wars against the Law of God which is in our minds to wit the Light to war against the Law of God is sin and to move to man or to tempt man to do contrary unto the beeing of God in man is sin whose being in us is as a Law to us by which cometh to us the knowledge of sin Quest Shall not the motion of Sathan which is sin be imputed to man if man obey not Answ Nay to him that tempteth it's a sin to be imputed but to man that is tempted it 's no sin to be imputed if he fall not into it because man is not the author of the motion of sin that is of the Devil the motion of Sathan which is sin we have when we do not commit sin mark it 's one thing to have sin it 's another thing to commit sin he that committeth sin is of the Devil 1 Joh. 3.8 Joh. 8.44 Quest Is the motion of Sathan in the Flesh of innocent mankind if so then may it not be in the flesh of little children Answ Yea it may be in the flesh of little Children that it was in the flesh of innocent man kinde Paul the Apostle saith When I would do good evil is present with me Again he saith I finde a Law in my members warring against the Law in my mind Again In me that is in my flesh saith he dwelleth no good thing Rom. 7. James saith Know ye not that the spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy James 4.5 that it is I am a witness for I finde by the Law as it is written that when I would do good evil is present with me Rom 7.21 Quest If the motion of sin be in the flesh of innocent mankinde is not that Adam 's transgression Answ Nay Mans sin is no substance but an act or accident a transgressing against the Law of God mark that which moves in us to move us to sin is a substance not Adam's sin but the Serpent that moved them to sin Quest Are not little children conceived and born in sin as it have been conceived declared and believed Answ It 's written the Lord is the Former of all things Jer. 10.16 and that in wisdom which is contrary to sin hath he made them all Psal 104.24 and his work is perfect Deut. 32.4 Christ Jesus saith touching little Children of such is the Kingdom of Heaven Luke 18.16 Math. 19.14 Again he saith Verily verily I say unto you except ye be converted and become as little Children ye shall not enter into the Kingdom of Heaven Mat. 18.9 Again it 's noted in the common prayer Book in publick Baptisme that little Children are innocent and in the Collect for Innocents Day see then according to Moses the Prophets and Christ's sayings little Children are innocent and not born in sin Quest What is Innocency and what is degeneration Answ Innocency is uprightness Adam was in it the Lord made man upright Eccl. 7.29 Degeneration is transgression the Lord made it not nor man in it Wisd 1.13 Quest Have not Christ by his death destroyed the power of sin and satisfied the wrath of God for all transgressions there are many that do believe that Christ by his death hath satisfied the wrath of God for all sins present past and to come and hath by his death destroyed the power of sin Answ To believe that Christ by his Death hath satisfied God's wrath for all sins and hath by his death destroyed the power of sin Is to believe against Holy Scripture and knowledge because we finde in our flesh the power of sin undestroyed Again when we were the servants of sin then as it 's written Rom. 2.8 9. Upon our souls was tribulation anguish and wrath Again if all sins present past and to come was satisfied for by the death of Christ then there remains no place for preaching his name for repentance and remission of sins nor for Christ's Intercession Mark according to Holy Scripture the ministry of the Gospel of God is to be preached among all Nations for obedience of faith that they may come to repentance and receive remission of sins Luke 24.27 Except sinners repent they shall all perish Luke 13.4 Christ tasted Death for every man for the redemption of the transgressions that was under the first Testament Heb. 2.9 9.15 But for the sin of not believing the second Testament or Covenant of God of that men must repent or else for that they shall perish and dye in their sins as the Lord hath said John 8.24 Luke 13.3 Quest What is the first Testament Answ Precepts of God gave forth contained in Scripture without us Quest What is the second Covenant of the Lord and where is it to be witnessed Answ The new and second Covenant of the Lord
to wit the spirit of God Man's spirit and the spirit of the wicked one if so what is their natures properties or qualities and their workings in man Answ Yea there are three spirits in man first the nature of God's spirit in man is the Light powerfull in its operations immutable in his Essence admitting no sin to joyn to it the property and quality of it briefly it is meek wise searching all hearts and making manifest unto men their thoughts and the motion of Sathan in their flesh 2ly The nature of the spirit of man singly considered is mutable the quality or property of ill in its working is its simple fierce furious they that follow their own spirits as it s written have seen nothing Ezek. 13.3 3ly The nature of the spirit of the wicked one is irreconcilable to any good the property or quality of it in its working is It s subtile envious and mischievous always in his working in man he moves to man to do things contrary unto the beeing of God in man whose being to wit God's in us is as a Law by which Law we know that when we would do good evil is present in and with us according as it s noted in Scriptures of truth without us Rom. 7.21 mark the spirit of man is not begotten by man or gendered of man as some in Print have affirmed then it would be mortal neither is it that breath which God breathed in man by which man became a living soul as others in Print have affirmed but mans spirit is given him of God and is of the same substance that the created Angels are of and it s that feeling sensible spiritual part in man by which we receiveth the things of the spirit or breath of God That man's spirit is not the breath of God it may appear thus by the breath of the Lord was the Heavens made and all the Host of them Psal 33.6 and by the breath of his mouth he will slay the wicked Esa 11.4 2 Thes 2.8 Quest If there be three spirits in man Is not there also three estates of man Answ Yea the Son of God Christ Jesus is the righteousness of God when man is in him then man is in his first estate in which he was formed out of which the Devil is and into it he cannot come but when man is between righteousness and unrighteousness then man is as when he was born which is man's second state To man in that state the Serpent can come as he did to the Woman when Man transgresseth then man is in that which God created not nor man in it which is man's third estate In it the Devil is and moveth and it 's under the wrath of God He that hath an ear to hear let him hear and awake to righteousness and as it 's written sin no more Joh. 5.14 Quest Seeing that there is a three-fold state of man in which may a man abide and walk and not commit Sin Answ In the righteousness of God Christ Jesus the way of holiness may a way-faring man though a fool walk and not erre therein Isa 35.8 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not 1 John 3.6 Righteousness exalts a Nation sin is a shame to any People Pro. 14.34 Quest What is the ministry of them that walk and abide in Christ and wherein do their worship consist and in what do they worship and what is the effects that follows of their ministry to them Answ Our ministry is that true Light that lighteth every man that cometh into the World our worship doth consist in answering the Lord's requirings we worship the Father who is God over all in him in whom we walk and abide the effects of the ministry unto us is It makes the comers thereunto perfect our upright and satisfies our souls and gives us the knowledge of God which is life eternal John 17.3 which no changable ministry can do and by it in our hearts as it s written Math. 5.8 we have seen God to whom be glory for ever Quest Why have and do not God's People worship and walk with sinners in their worships Answ Because sinners ministry is changable and after the Law of a carnal Commandement and their worships consists in teaching and worshipping after the precepts of men which is not bread Isa 55.2 Now Christ have forewarned his people to beware of men that teach for Doctrine the Precepts of men Mat. 16.12 But in vain saith he do they worship me teaching for Doctrine the Commandements of men Mat. 15.9 Mark 7.7 Again by his Apostles we are forewarned to turn from them that have a forme of godliness and do deny the power 2 Tim. 3.5 Again we are forewarned by the Wise man Prov. 19.27 to cease to hear the instruction that causeth to erre from the words of Knowledge so likewise by the Lord of Hosts in Jeremy 23.16 Now blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly nor standeth in the way of sinners Psal 1.1 To all Rulers whom it may concern A few words to consider of seeing there is a time that one Man may bare rule over another unto his own hurt Eccl. 8.9 IN the Apostles Days they exhorted the Saints to be subject unto every Ordinance of Man for the Lord's sake to the King to the Rulers to all that was set in Authority under him for said they the Powers that are are of God the Rulers that then was did not judge men for questions and names and words that related unto Religion as it s noted in the Scriptures of truth Acts 18. When the High Priests brought Jesus Christ before Pilate and accused him of Blasphemy producing their Law for it John 19.7 Pilate denyed them to give Judgment in that case John 18.31 Again when Paul the Apostle of Jesus Christ with others was brought before Galio the Governour of Acaya about words and names relating to Religion Galio said if it were a matter of wrong or evil deeds reason would that I should bare with you but if it be a question of words and names or of your Law look ye to it your selves for I will be no Judge of such matters Acts 18.16 Mark that Again the 20th Article of the Church of England saith it s not lawfull for the Church to ordain any thing contrary to Gods word written neither may it so expound one place of Scripture that it be repugnant to another Again the 2d Collect for Peace in the Common-prayer Book saith The service of God is perfect freedom this saying is true Is not compelling to worship contrary to perfect freedome judge in your selves the things that are meet for we who fear the Lord are to prove all things and do by the spirit of truth which is within us finde and according to the Scriptures of truth that the sayings of many and their doings do not agree Consider of it I pray you that so you may do things worth to be called by us who
fear the Lord Noble as the Roman Ruler was by Paul Acts 26.25 A few Words to those that may endeavour to oppose what is before written touching little Children being born in innocency and not in sin IT may be conceived from what is written in Psal 51.5 that little Children are shapen and conceived in sin Mark Thomas Wilson that learned Man in his Dictionary Page 602. saith on that place sin entered with us into the World This saying is true but that little Children are shapen and born in sin is contrary to holy Scriptures which saith In wisdom which is contrary to sin hath he to wit the Lord made all his works Quest If Sathan or the motion of Sathan which is sin entered or is born with little Children Is it not all as one as though little Children was shapen and born in sin Answ Nay he that is in sin is under the Dominion of Sathan and is out of God's wisdom to wit the Son of God in whom and by whom the Former of all things made the Worlds Heb. 1.2 Again it may be conceived from the 2 Eph. 3. That by nature little Children are Children of wrath Mark the 3d. Verse of that Chapter depends on the 2d Verse where it s written that was spoken of such that walked not of passive Children according to the course of this World according to the Prince of the power of the Ayr the spirit that now worketh in the Children of disobedience Mark by following the Prince of the power of the Ayr they are by nature the Children of wrath but not as they was formed by the Lord of the nature of man-kinde Again it may be conceived by what is written Joh. 3.3 That little Children are born degenerated that Scripture points unto Man degenerated not to little Children little Children are formed in righteousness and born in innocency as before is noted Quest If any Query whether there be any saved by Jesus Christ but those for whom Christ dyed and whether he dyed for any but sinners and then conclude that little Children are born in sin or the sin of Adam is imputed to them or else Christ dyed not for them and so conceive that little Children are not saved by Christ if born in Innocency Answ We need not any Man to teach us as it is written 1 Joh. 2.27 but as the anointing teacheth us the manifestation of it is given to every Man to profit withall the anointing which is in us convinceth us not nor chargeth us not with the transgression of Adam nor any of our Fore-fathers because for the Redemption of the transgressions that was under the first Testament Christ tasted death for every man Heb. 2.9 and the 9.15 So that little Children shall not answer for the sin of their Fathers as the Lord hath sworn Ezek. 18. but are guided in youth Prov. 2.17 and are saved by the life of Jesus Rom. 5.10 if they dye before they transgress against the second Testament Mark it s the Soul that sinneth it s written shall die Ezek. 18.20 Hos 13.9 These things are written to stop errors because an error in its beginning is next to the Serpent the cause of all error and confusion that have been upon the Earth unto this day by the Light according to what is written Jer. 16.19 It may appear that our Fathers have inherited lies vanity and things wherein there is no profit O Sathan old and subtle too thy ways is hard to finde How thou dost work in Sons of Men their Childrens minds to blinde Know Sathan thou Unvail'd must be No cover shall thee hide Though thou moves Men professing Christ To judge that they may ride Upon the truth and her Children a place not fit for Man Know of a truth thy time is short Yea even now 's at hand For to be bound not to deceive the Lord will do the thing And we that do God's Name profess will to Him for it sing Finally Because amongst the many thousand witnesses I do testifie that the true Light which lighteth every Man that cometh into the World is the matter or substance of Preaching to beget faith some Men may think and say as some have that I do deny the Holy Scriptures Know all Men that I do own the Holy Scriptures for they do testifie that the searcher of all hearts is God and that God is Light and that all things that are rebukable when they are made manifest is manifested by the Light Again know that I am a witness and do think of Holy Scriptures above Men as it s written 1 Cor. 4.6 But I may not think of Holy Scriptures above God in Man or the Testimony of Jesus which is the spirit of Prophesie for as it s written 1 Joh. 5.10 The witness of God is greater he that do believe the Testimony that God gives of his Son have the witness in himself but every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the Flesh that Spirit is of Anti-Christ 1 Joh. 4.3 Written by R. W. in the Year 1668. THE END