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A63393 The Quakers rounds, or, A Faithful account of a large discourse between a party of them called Quakers viz. William Fisher and Edward Burroughs, &c with Mr. Philip Taverner, Mr. Richard Goodgroom, and Mr. M. Hall, ministers of the Gospel ... / published by William Taverner, preacher of the Word. W. F. (William Fisher); Burrough, Edward, 1634-1662. 1658 (1658) Wing T248; ESTC R31011 28,134 41

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