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A96406 The voice of wisdome, uttered forth against antichrists folly and deceits, and the freeness of Gods love to the creature, and the effects of his righteousnesse in his people truly discovered. ... and this is in answer to a book, falsly titled The Quakers folly made manifest to all men. Given forth by Tho. Danson, a priest at Sandwich in Kent ... / By a friend to them that regard true instruction, and a witness of Christs righteousnesse, George Whitehead. Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723. 1659 (1659) Wing W1972; ESTC R186533 21,823 56

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the 1 Cor 6 11 as his instancing the Dogs returning to Rent not the Swine when as the Swine are not onely known to trample under foot but also to rent and tear and here he would divide the spirit of God from the name of Jesus when as his name and spirit are one his name is called the word of God and the Father the Word and the Spirit are one Rev 19 13 1 Joh 5 7 And where doth he prove that Justified by the Spirit which he ignorantly calls the third Person in the Trinity is not the work of Grace here he would divide the Grace of God from the Spirit was there ever such confusion for the Saints were Justified freely by his Grace which was one with the Spirit Priest pag 16. For the Apostle assents the holinesse of mans nature as a work of the Spirit conforming it to the Law to be the meritorious cause of our freedome from sin Answ And yet he hath denyed Good works of obedience to be a deserving cause of Justification see his confusion what is not Justification a freedome from sin See Act 13 39 And where doth he prove that the holinesse of mans nature is a meritorious cause of freedome from sin seeing it is the same Spirit which frees man from sinne and brings him and his nature into conformity to the Law of Righteousnesse through its Sanctifying and Justifying him from the transgression of the Law Thomas Danson saith pag. 17. from Rom. 8.4 5. It imports the end for which God sent Christ that the righteousness of the Law might be fulfilled in us not in our own persons but in Christ his righteousnesse Imputed to us as if it had been inherent in our selves Answ Here again he hath perverted the Scripture by his false meaning as if the Apostle had meant quite another thing then he spoke when as if the Apostle had not meant the Righteousnesse of the Law fulfilled in their own persons he would not have said fulfilled in us neither would he have counted Christs righteousness Inherent in themselves if he had not counted it in them as this Priest doth and the Apostle needed not speak of the Righteousness of the Law being to be fulfilled in Christ as if it had not been fulfilled in Christ but that it might be fulfilled in us who walk not after the flesh but after the spirit Rom. 8.4 so away with these false meanings this Priest hath given And to S. Fishers speaking of degrees among believers as in 1 Joh. 2.13 14. This Priest Danson saith I suppose that you mean that some of these have a mixture of sin with their Grace Answ This is a false supposition for the Grace of God which the Saints have is pure and not mixed with sin for the mixture of sin is in that which goeth from the Grace Thomas Danson saith pag. 18. to S. F. you maintained that our Justification was by personal fulfilling of the Law and now you Grant some persons to be Justified who never did fulfil it personally Answ In both these sentences he hath wronged S. Fisher for that which he vindicated was what the Apostle witnessed that was the Righteousness of the Law being fulfilled by the spirit in the persons of believers without which work of the spirit in them they were not Justified Thomas Danson pag. 19. saith And Conscience in the Saints being but in part cleansed as a witnesse it testifies falsehood to them also in that their estate is bad when it is good Answ See the folly and confusion this man is in who would lay fals-hood and badnesse to the charge of the Saints Consciences and their good estate as one that calls good evil Isa 5.20 but the Consciences of the Saints witnessed truth to them and not falshood for they witnessed Sanctification throughout in body soul and spirit 1 Thess 5.23 and holinesse perfected in the fear of God Thomas Danson saith pag. 21. As Christ was made sin for us so are we the Righteousnesse of God in him but the former was by Imputation not Inherence and therefore so the other Answ This proves nothing against being Justified by Christs Righteousnesse within but rather against him that hath perverted that Scripture 2 Cor 5 21 for if our being made the Righteousnesse of God in Christ be but like Christs being made sinne for us as this Priest Imagins then he might as well say that we shall have no Righteousness of Christ in us neither must we do Righteousnesse at all for Christ was made sin for us who knew no sin neither can he sin that we might be made the Righteousnesse of God in him in whom their is no sin so that men are not made the Righteousnesse of God in Christ while in their sinnes but as they are translated into Christ through death being baptized into the death of Christ by putting off the body of the sinnes of the flesh for Gods Righteousnesse is pure without sin and so are the believers made his Righteousnesse See Rom 6 4 5 6 7 Col 2 11 12 1 Joh 3 5 6. Priest And to prove two Righteousnesses of Christ this said Priest saith do you think that the Righteousnesse which the Apostle calls his own was not Christs Answ See this mans ignorance of Christ's Righteousnesse which the Apostle desired to have and not his owne Phil 3 9 Now he that counts the Apostles own Righteousnesse which he denyed to have Christs Righteousness he might as well say that the Apostle desired not to have Christ's Righteousnesse which is but one but herein his folly is discovered And whereas at our dispute Thomas Danson denyed that the Saints were Justified by that Christ that was in them now to excuse his matter he saith he will Answer me more punctually and his Answer is Priest pag. 22. The Scripture by Christ within us understands not the person of Christ but his operations the cause is put for the effect by a Metynomy Compare Collos 1.26 Christ in you with Ephes 3.17 that Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith and therefore it followes not that we make two Christs Answ To deny that the Saints were Justified by that Christ within is to Preach two Christs seeing he hath owned that Christ is in them And to say that the Scripture by Christ within us understands his operations what darknesse is this where did ever the Apostle say that the operations or works of Christ are Christ or put a Metonymy upon his words as thou hast done who falsly hast called that a word too hard for my Capacity And Faith Repentance Regeneration are opperated or wrought by Christ but doth the Scripture say that Repentance is Christ or Regeneration is Christ this Priest hath made it appear that he neither rightly knowes Christ nor his workes who discernes not the one from the other And again he hath confuted himself the Priest in pag. 23. he saith The Scripture speaks of two Christs Christ Personal and Christ
and opened not his mouth before his accusers the Jews and chief Priests And as for the rest of Tho. Dansons torn confused language and several more lyes and false accusations in his Book and Narrative which I could further make manifest I let them pass as things not worth answering but to be trampled under feet by them that are in the light which discovers all such blind Watchmen and Shepherds that cannot understand whose nakedness and shame the Lord God is discovering to the simple-hearted and if Thomas Danson or any of his brethren in iniquity proceed to broach their lyes confusion and slanders against the truth or against us who own it as in his pride and enmity he hath done in his confused Book they may truly expect that the Truth will further make manifest their folly and deceit And now that they that desire any further to see more of Thomas Dansons Doctrines which he affirmed at the Disputes with us to the matter of which Doctrines this foregoing Treatise contains an Answer and which are Answered and Confuted in Richard Hubberthornes book Titled The difference of that Call of God to the Ministry c. they may see and consider his false doctrines as followeth and see how unfit he is to be counted a Minister of Christ and how unlikely he is to convert any to Christ while he preacheth such Doctrines 1. Priest Tho. Danson Affirmed That it is non-sence to say that a man is made a Minister by the gift of grace 2. That he pretends to no infallibility in Ministry 3. That every individual man was not inlightned by Christ 4. That the Gospel is an external light and not invisible 5. That Christ being the propitiation for the sinnes of the whole world as John said 1 John 2.2 is meant onely the world of believers 6. That they must reconcile the Scriptures to themselves 7. That the law of the Spirit of life in Christ was not the law of the Spirit in the Saints 8. That there were two Righteousnesses of Christ the one without the Saints to justifie them and the other within the Saints that did sanctifie them 9. That the Saints were not justified by that Christ within them and since that he hath affirmed two Christs Christ personal and Christ Mystical 10. That David when he was guilty of adultery and murther was not in a condemned estate but in a justified estate 11. And concerning them in Heb. 12. who were come unto the spirits of just men made perfect the said Priest said it was meant that they were in Heaven and not upon earth 12. That that which fitted men for the inheritance among the Saints did not entitle them to the inheritance 13. That we cannot contain an infinite Righteousnesse in us 14. That God offers salvation to all men but he intends it but to a few 15. That a Minister of the Gospel doth not know who are elected 16. That the sword of the Spirit is Ineffectuall without the Letter 17. That there was no Scripture written but what is extant and in the Bible 18. That the Letter doth ante-cede and go before the Spirit in all that walked in the Spirit 19. That Christ chose a Devil to be one of his Ministers c. 20. That the Spirit of God may accompany a Ministery and the Minister not have the Spirit And several other such like false Doctrines did the said Priest affirme which the true Ministers never did which manifests his want of the Spirit of truth and the infallibility of it so that all that know the spirit of truth may see him to be fallible And indeed it s no marvel that England hath so long been in darknesse and people have long wanted satisfaction to their souls seeing their Teachers are such as feed themselves and not the flock and take money and hire of the people for their preaching contrary to the example of the true Ministers and not onely so but they preach such false doctrines as this Priest hath done for hire and truly long may the people be destroyed for want of knowledge while they follow such Shepherds as cannot understand the things pertaining to Salvation for they being such as rebel against the light not abideing in the path of it nor knowing the way of it Job 24.13 they contend against its being in the rebellious And they being such covetous men as have eyes full of adultery that cannot cease from sin they plead for sinne againsts Christs justifying Righteousnesse and perfection made manifest in the Saints on earth 2 Pet. 2.14 And so they being ignorant of Gods Righteousnesse and his works in his people which are perfect they go about to establish Imperfection and so many are alwayes learning among them and loaden with sinnes and iniquities and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth nor know freedome from the sinne which doth burthen their souls so long as they look for help among such miserable Comforters as these Shepherds are that plead for sinne and Imperfection in this Life But now is the Lord manifesting his glory and causing his light to break forth as the morning that the darkness may be expel'd the clouds of ignorance removed from off the understandings of many that they may be delivered from the mouths of such Shepherds as have made a prey upon them and escape out of the snares And now is the star risen in Jacob and the seed coming forth that shall smite the false Prophets and Diviners and rule over the Nations And they that come forth from among this perverse generation of the wicked and wait upon the Lord for his life to arise and rule shall see the salvation of our God who is the God of our salvation who pleadeth our Cause indueth us with wisdome and fighteth for us to him be glory for ever and ever Let all flesh fear before him and the spirits of all flesh submit to him and every tongue confesse to his glory who is abasing the pride of man and staining the glory of all flesh that he himself may raigne and his own Seed may have the preheminence and raign over Babylon and over all her confused crew whose habitation is in darknesse and confusion though they joyn hand in hand in warre against the Truth the Lamb shall overcome them and overthrow their habitation Blessed are they that wait and with patience follow the Lamb through the warre for they shall raign with him in Glory and shine in his Kingdome for ever and ever Amen Allelujah G. W. THE END
Mystical if I should say not Christ Mystical but Christ Personal is our Saviour would you not speak wisely think you to say Oh! you make two Christs this distinction you may finde and to prove a Christ Personal he brings Colos 2.8 9. and Christ Mistical he brings 1 Cor 12 12 Answ He hath here perverted these Scriptures in going about to prove two Christs which before he denyed and in denying Christ Mystical to be our Saviour for Christ is but one and the same for ever who is the Mystery hid from Ages and Generations Christ in you the hope of Glory Col 1 27 and ye are saved by hope Rom 8 24 And Christ saith I in them and thou in me that they may be made perfect in one c. Joh 17 23 So now they that heard Thomas Danson at the dispute deny that he Preached Two Christs may now see that he hath preached two Christs and how therein the Truth hath contradicted him and where this said Priest in George Whiteheads name saith Priest I will prove by the Scriptures that we are Justified by our Sanctification Answ In this he hath wronged Geo Whitehead as in several other things for the words were not so spoken by George Whitehead but what if the words had been so spoken Christ is made to us Wisedome Righteousnesse Sanctification and Redemption and by this Christ are we Justified and no other 1 Cor. 1.30 IV. Concerning the Scriptures Priest THomas Danson hath gone about to prove the Scriptures the word of God and the rule of Faith and Life and in page 29. he saith their is no other standing rule but the Scriptures Answ The Word of God is in the heart of every one that believeth in Christ and such are taught how to walk by that Word or Anointing in them and that is their standing rule and the Spirit of Truth leadeth them into all Truth and of this Word or Spirit which this Priest hath shewed his Ignorance of the Scriptures are a true declaration but are not the Word or Spirit though Words of God be Recorded in them and if there be no other standing rule but the Scriptures as this said Priest ignorantly hath affirmed Then what was their rule who spoke forth the Scriptures and what was the Gentiles rule who not having the Law yet did those things contained in the Law Rom 2 14 and what must be their rule who cannot read the Scriptures they have souls to be saved as well as others and are not to be condemned because they cannot read the Scriptures but if they be disobedient to the light in them which manifests in them the righteous Law of God then they are condemned and do the Priests believe that all that could not read the Scriptures without were without a rule and were all condemned seeing thus they have affirmed no other standing rule but the Scriptures which by the Scriptures they cannot prove Priest Joh 20 30 31 And many other signes truly did Jesus in the presence of his Disciples which are not written in this book but these are written that ye might believe c. Suppose that we had the signes which are not faithfully Recorded in writing yet were they not our rule because God did not give order for them but has assured us as much as is sufficient to create and preserve faith in the Gospel which we have Answ So then he having owned no other standing rule of Faith and Life but the Scriptures in these his words he intendes these Scriptures that are upon Record are sufficient to create and preserve Faith in the Gospel which how false this is its easie to see for faith is the gift of God not created and preserved by the Scriptures though they were written to be believed but by Christ the author of faith and this is the work of God that yee believe in him whom God hath sent Joh 6 29 And again this Priest in his affirming no other rule but what we have Recorded in Scripture if the fignes that Christ did were all faithfully Recorded which are not he hath plainly contradicted himself in pag. 44. in his saying that those things that were not written might have been useful if they had been written for they were done for the very same end with those which are left us c. so then many things that are not written in Scripture might have been as useful as that which is written in the Scriptures if they had been Recorded See the confusion of these Priests that professe the Scriptures which are Recorded to be the word of God and the onely rule of Faith and Life and how therein they deny the leading of the Spirit of Truth and its sufficiencie Priest saith As for your participation of the Infallible Spirit if that were granted that inferres not a participation of the Spirits infallibility pag. 32. Answ This tends to divide the Spirit from its infallibility as if such as partake of the Spirit do not partake of its infallibility was there ever such folly as this seeing that the Spirit of Truth leads them that partake of it into all Truth which is infallible Priest As for our want of infallibility t is no valid plea against our Ministery page 33. and another such a like Doctrine he hath laid down in page 46. that the Spirit of God may accompany a Ministry and the Minister not have the Spirit and to prove these he hath brought Acts 20.17 also of your own selves shall men arise speaking perverse things c. and Matth. 23.2 3. the Scribes and Pharisees sit in Moses seat c. Answ His falsehood here Appeares plainly for they that want infallibility and have not the Spirit of Christ they are out of the Truth and are fallible and their Ministry is not of the Spirit seeing they speak not from the Spirit but from their own hearts which are deceitful where they want infallibility so out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh And how can ye being evil speak good things Matth. 12.34 and they that ran and the Lord sent them not they profited not the people at all Jer. 23. and the Scribes and Pharisees and them that spoke perverse things against the Apostles the Spirit did not then accompany what they ministred they being out of the Spirit Here followeth something in answer to what the said Thomas Danson hath replyed to Richard Hubberthornes Paper Tituled the difference of that call of God to the Ministry c. PRiest saith None of my people can set to their seal that my Ministry hath brought them to a perfect man T is readily granted Nor was the Ministry intended for that end pag. 35. Answ This is false Doctrine for the true Ministry was for the perfecting of the Saints till all come into the unity of the Faith and the knowledge of the Son of God unto a perfect man Ephes 4 11 12 13. So that Ministry of theirs which is not for the perfecting is a
false Ministry Priest My words were that the Gospel is an external light as that of the sun Answ That also is false for the Gospel is the power of God which is invisible Rom 1 16 20 and not external as the light of the Sun for that is created but the Gospel is Eternal Priest That I denied that the Saints were justified by that Christ that was in them To which he replies to Rich. Hub. Thou lovest lying rather then to speake righteousness Psal 52.3 Ans Rich. Hub. hath not belyed thee at all for when I asked thee whether the Saints were justified by that Christ that was in them yea or nay thou answeredst no as many heard thee so seek not to blind people with covering thy errors as now thou wouldst in pretending that it is but one and the same Christ that justifies and sanctifies wherein thou hast flatly confuted thy self for if it be the same Christ that justifies and sanctifies then it s but one and the same righteousness which effecteth both these in and for the Saints And see how again thou hast contradicted thy self in owning but one Christ when in page 23. thou hast plainly affirmed two Christs Christ personal and Christ mystical and so hast shewed thy self to be of Antichrist for the Saints preached but one Christ which was in them their hope and he it is whose fulness is thorow all filling all things so he that preacheth another Gospel or Christ then the Saints preached let him be accursed Gal. 1.9 Priest The righteousness which God works in us is but finite as well as other effects p. 39. Ans And yet this said Priest in p. 37. hath owned that the righteousness whereof Christ is the subject and that whereof he is the efficient are of one species or kinde see his confusion then I say the righteousness which God effects in us is not finite but infinite for Christ is Gods righteousness and Christ is formed in us Gal. 4.19 and so that righteousness which God works in us by his Spirit it s of the same kind and nature with that which worketh it for the Saints are made partakers of the divine nature 2 Pet. 1.4 which this Priest being ignorant of he confutes himself and such would divide the justifying righteousness from being in the Saints and would make that righteousness in them but finite when as Christ his infinite righteousness and the Saints are in one another in one Covenant and he that sanctifieth and they that are sanctified are one Heb. 2.11 and whatsoever God doth it shall be for ever Eccles 3.14 then Gods righteousness in us is not finite but infinite In page 40 and 41. the Priest saith I affirmed and do among those that hear the Gospel salvation is offered to more then to whom it is intended I should rather think our preaching is to more purpose because we know not who are elected for the ignorance of that gives us a ground to hope well of any man Ans Here people may see the Priests Ignorance concerning Salvation and how their hope is grounded upon their Ignorance but Christ is Gods salvation to the ends of the earth offered to all men with an intent that they might beleeve and be saved and for them that are condemned it is not because Salvation was not intended of God for them but because that when Salvation was offered and intended to them they beleeved not in it as a promise of entring into Gods rest may be left unto a people and yet they not enter into the rest because of their unbelief Heb. 4. And men are not condemned for want of having a saving light given them or because God hath afore purposed their destruction and thereupon deprived them of saving grace as the Priests imagine but this is the condemnation that light is come into the world and men loved darkness rather then the light John 3.19 And Christ came not to condemn the world but to save the world so that these Priests who are ignorant of the elect and have their hope of any mans welfare grounded upon that Ignorance their hope is a false and a blind hope for how can they hope well of any man when they know not who are elected and do not beleeve that salvation is intended as free for all men so herein have the Priests largely made manifest their blindness and their blind hope and their preaching and praying for people to be of none effect for if salvation be not free or not intended for all to what purpose is the Priests bidding all their Hearers lay hold upon Christ and putting them all into a hope for that which they say was never intended for many of them but herein is their ignorance and blind hope which they strive to beget people into plainly manifested for the true hope is not grounded upon Ignorance but in that spirit whereby the precious is discerned from the vile and the sheep known from the goats by the true Shepherds and Ministers Priest That the Spirit was not wont to be effectual without the Letter or that he wrought upon the souls of men in and by the Letter of the Word and I gave you that instance Rom. 10.17 Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God Ans He might as well have said That the Apostle Pauls Ministry was not wont to be effectual as to say That the Spirit was not not wont to be effectual without the Letter for Paul was not a Minister of the Letter or Writing but of the Spirit or of the thing declared of 2 Cor. 3 6. and as for that of Rom 10 17 that hearing comes by the Word of God that is against this said Priests principle for there is a difference between the Word and the Letter The Word liveth and abideth for ever 1 Pet 1 23. so doth not the Letter and the Spirit was wont to be effectual among the Saints Patriarcks and Prophets before the Letter was written or given forth and the Spirit or Word was effectual among the Gentiles who had not the Law or Letter of it outwardly so how Ignorant these Priests are of the Spirits efficacy all that know it may easily judge and how would they ever convince the Turks or Heathens of Christ with their preaching if the Spirit be not effectual without the Letter Priest That the works of Christ in some respect are not perfect I spake these words in reference to sanctification which I affirmed to be imperfect in this life p. 44. Ans Here he hath falsely charged the works of Christ with imperfection for all the works of God are perfect And by one offering God hath for ever perfected them that are sanctified Heb. 10 14 And Christ perfecteth the work of sanctification in them that beleeve as Christ said Sanctifie them through thy truth thy word is truth and the glory which thou gavest me I have given them that they may be one even as we are one I in them and