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A32753	Gods mercy shewed to his people in giving them a faithful ministry and schooles of learning for the continual supplyes therof delivered in a sermon preached at Cambridg, the day after the commencement / by Charles Chauncy, B.D., President of Harvard Colledg in New-England ; published with some additions therunto at the request of diverse honoured and much respected friends ...	Chauncy, Charles, 1592-1672.	1655 (1655)	Wing C3738; ESTC W19762	28,505	62

instruc●ing in the knowledg of the liberall Arts beyond Grammer Rhetorick as in Logick which may be of good use in humane things if reason manage that art of reason But the Mathematicks especially are to be had in good esteem in Vniversities as Arithmetick Geometry Geography and the like which as they carry no wickedness in them so are they besides very usefull in humane Societies and the affaires of this present life There may be also in these Vniversities Colledges allowed the studyes of Physick the Law c 5. Why the Vniversities Colledges should bee only at Cambridg Oxeford I know no reason and we judg it most prejudiciall to the common good of the Common-wealth that these two Vniversities should make a monopoly of humane learning to themselves Doubtless it would be more suitable to a Common-wealth and more advantagious to the good of all the people to have Vniversities or Colledges one at the least in every great Town or Citty in the Nation as in London York Bristow Exceter Norwich the like And for the State to allow to these Colledges an honest competent maintenance for some godly and learned men to teach the Tongues Arts under a due reformation Thus much Mr. Dell. By all which it appears that multitudes are deceived concerning this as if Mr. D. did utterly condemn Universities or schools of learning or that which is called humane learning seeing that there is no art or tongue studyed or taught in Colledges but he allowes though with caution and also he desires there were more schools Colledges Universities then there are Briefly Mr. Dells project is th●s and so farr to be allowed to put down heathenish schools where there be any such and to erect christian as himself speaks page 19. in his answer to Mr. S mpson Object But there is no necessity of Schools or Vniversityes or any humane learning to teach men Divinity or to make able preachers of the Gospell the teaching of the Spirit of God alone is sufficient which Mr. Dell proves by the examples of our Saviour Christ his Apostles seeing Christ himself had only the unction of the Spirit Isay 61 1-4 Luke 4. Mat 13.54 55. Besides when he would send forth pre●chers i● to all the world he chose Fishermen Publican Tent makers plain men and of ordinary imployment in the world and only put his Spirit upon them Acts 2.17 Th●s argument is much stood upon by Mr. Horne Mr. Crandon against M. B●xter Answ 1. It is a mervellous mistake to reason from our Saviour Christ his Apostles to these times For our Saviour received the Spirit not by measure John 3.24 and the Apostles had the miraculous visible extraordinary gifts of the Spirit bestowed on them Acts 2. So the reason will stand thus If our Saviour Christ and his Apostles without other learning by the miraculous and extraordinary gifts of the Spirit were enabled and furnished sufficiently for the ministry Then other ministers in after times that have no such extraordinary gi t s need no other learning but the unction of the Spirit as if he should say if Aholiab Bezaleel were filled with the Spirit of God in wisdom and in knowledg and all manner of workmanship to devise cunning works as they were Exod. 31.3 4. then no man need to be an apprentice to learn any Mechanicall trade seeing the teaching of the Spir t is sufficient for any cunning work w●o is there that would not account this reasoning ridiculous Surely if Mr. D. had not excluded Logick reason out of Divinity he would neuer have made such collections It is much like his reasoning in an other Sermon of his the Scripture saith that Christ shall Baptise with the holy Ghost with fire therfore there is no baptism with water to be used or to be in force But forsooth what ever he saith ye must expect no reason from him ye must take all from him as dictates of the Spirit and so all Ordinances in the Church that the Spirit hath appointed the Spirit shall also overthrow yea I know no reason why Mr. Dell or any other believer upon this ground may not make an other Scripture for if the same Spirit that indighted or penned the Scripture be in the same or the like measure in M. Dell or other believers as it was in the holy men of God and penmen of the Scripture then what Mr. D. and any other believers write or say is of equall authority with the Canonicall Scriptures So M. Dell and every believer is made a Pope that can not erre c but here I will stop spare 2. I affirm that the Lord Jesus and his Apostles were learned and beyond that which is attainable by ordinary teaching For our Saviour it is said Mat 13.54 55. Jesus came into his own country taught them in the Synagogue insomuch that they were astonished and said whence hath this man this wisdom and John 7.15 The Iewes marvielled at the teaching of our Saviour saying how knoweth this man letters or learning having never learned them therfore it is certain that our Saviour had learning though never trained up therin and also that learning or teaching is the ordinary way to attain to learning yea such learning as our Saviour manifested in his ministry as the Jewes conceived So I may say of the Apostles though in a farr inferiour degree For with that effusion of the Spirit at Penticost they had the gifts of tongus the gifts of miracles of discerning of Spirits yea the gifts of wisdom knowledg the Pastours and Teachers gifts mentioned 1 Cor 12 and also 1 Cor 14 But w●ll any man say that believers now have any such gifts of the Spirit or any promi●e therof Mr. D in his answer to Mr. S mpson page 3. te●●e● us of many promises of the Spirit to believers 1 Cor 12.13 Gal. 4.6 7. whence hee gathers that the whole Church of believers and every true member therof do receive the Spirit of God And who will deny that they do receive it to cry Abba father to change sanctifie comfort their hearts but there is more then these required to make an able minister Gods ministers must rightly divide the word of trueth 2 Tim 2.15 must be apt to teach 1 Tim 3.2 must be able by sound doctrine both to exhort to convince the gainsayers They must have the tongue of the learned that they may not be as those unlearned ones that wrest the Scriptures to their own others perdition 2 Pet. 3.16 Now let any prudent man be judg in this case whither he think that every christian that hath received the sanctifying Spirit of God is gifted therby qualified for the confutation of gainsayers and the whole work of the ministry Mr. Dell in his answer to Mr. Simpson Object Humane learning is rather an hinderance then an help to the ministry of the Gospel and doth rather unfit then fit

Testament John Baptist had schollers John 1.28 so the Pharises had their schollers Mat. 22.15 ●6 Paul was Gamaliels scholler Acts 22.3 There was a Synogogue of learned men disputing with Stephen Act. 6.9 So there was a schoole at Corinth A s 19.8 Timothy was Pauls scholler 2 Tim. 3.14 But the example of our Saviour Christ is above all that kept a school first of his twelve d●sciples then of the seaventy disciples Luke 10. that ●e also sent forth to preach the Gospel Yea there is a most cleer and express Commandement that Paul gives to Timothy 2 Tim 2.2 he saith the things that thou hast heard of me before many witnesses he same commit to faithfull men who shall be able to teach others also Where we see that Timothy had many school fellows that are called witnesses and also that Timothy is cōmanded to teach others so it concerns such as God enables to teach them that may be teachers of others to instruct them in the things of God But now it will be very needfull upon this occasion for u● to consider what weight there is in the objections that diverse in these days have printed against them Object 1● Mr. Dell in his answer to Mr. S. Simpson allowes schooles of the prophets wherin Christian religion is taught but against schooles of humane learning this is that that makes them Antichrists seeing they are contrary to and do oppose Christ this makes the universityes stews of Antichrist houses of lyes and to stinke before God with most loathsome abomination c with a multitude of other reproachfull terms which Luther others have loaded Popish Universityes withall Answ 1. I do much desire that the opposers of schools universityes would speak ●lainly what they mean by humane learning then wee should easily come to some conclusion Therfore let this distinction be premised that humane learning may either be taken for all that learning that the heathen Authours or philosophers have delivered in their writings or else all other Arts besides Theology as they call physicks ethicks politicks c take in also the grounds of languages Latine Greek Hebrew Now in the former sense if Mr. D. do mean by humane learning all that learning that the heathen men have uttered out of the light of nature It will be a great oversight to pass such a sentence upon it 1. Because we find in Scriptures some testimonies out of humane writers as Tit 1.12 Acts 17.28 1 Cor 15.33 c which the Spirit of God would not have alledged if their writings had been utterly unlawfull to read 2. There are certain principles of trueth written even in corrupt nature which heathen authors have delivered unto us that doe not cross the holy writ 1 Cor 11.14 doth not nature it self teach you c and it cannot be denyed that all trueth whosoever it be that speakes it comes from the God of truth as he is called severall times And who can deny but that there are found many excellent divine morall truths in Plato Aristotle Plutarch Seneca c and to condemn all pel-mel will be an hard censure especially to call universities Antichrists for reading of them Besides they have treated of the works of God most excellently in many places and the works of God ought to be declared by parents to their children Psal 78 2-6 Besides they have delivered many excellent sayings of God and have attested many Scripture historyes as might be shewed by severall instances out of Justine Tacitus c and Mr. D. is not ignorant of them shall all these be thrown away as antichristian or as lyes Object But they have much profaness and filthiness in them and besides they are made idolls of in our universities when as ipse dixit and their authority goeth for currant as Scripture it self amongst them Answ But 1. All heathenish writers have not such profaness in them 2. Those that have let them be condemned abhored let not youth be poysoned by them 3. Let God be true every man a lyer and let not man especially any heathen be deified or his authority be accounted on or go cheek by jowle with the speaking in the Scriptures this is indeed to be abhored whersoever it is received but abusus non tollit usum II. But now if humane learning be taken in the second sense for all those Arts that are commonly taught in Universities as Physicks Eth●cks Politicks Oeconomicks Rhetorick Astronomy c or also for learned tongues of Latine Greek and Hebrew c 1. I will be bold to affirm that these in the true sense and right meaning therof are Theologicall Scripture learning and are not to be accounted of as humane learning For who can deny that the first second chapters of Genesis and many chapters in Job and the Psalms and diverse other places of holy Scripture do afford excellent and sure grounds for natural Philosophy and a just systeme thereof which Mr. Zanchy Daneus and diverse other eminent Divines have opened declared unto us And where are there to be found such Ethicall Politicall or Morall precepts as are to be found in holy Scriptures or such principles for the ordering of our lifes families or common weals let any man declare it unto us And where are there such high straines of all sorts of Rhetoricall Tropes figures to be found in any Author as there are in the writings of the Prophets Apostles and who can imagine but that the best surest Chronology in the world is to bee found in holy Scriptures upon which all the computation of ti●es in all ages in the world depends 2. Let all judicious men consider what Mr. Dell graunts though he speakes so much against humane learning I will relate his own words because his books are in few bands they that have them build much upon his judgment He speaks thus in his treatise of the reformation of learning 1. I conceive it meet that the Civill power or chief Magistrate should take great care of the education of youth as one of the greatest works that concerns them and one of the worthyest things they can do in the world insomuch that what the youth now is the whole Common wealth will shortly be 2. To this end it is meet that Schools if wanting be Erected through the whole nation and not only in Citties great Towns but also as much as may be in lesser villages and the Authority of the Nation take great care tha● godly men especially have the charge of greater schools And that the Magistrate ●fford to this work suitable incouragement 3. That in Cittyes greater Towns where are the greater schools and greater opportunities to send children to them they teach them also the Latine G●eek tongues Hebrew also which ought to be had in g●eat account w●th us for the old Testament sake 4. It may be ●●●ment also that there be some Vn●● s●●s Colle ●es for