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A84410 A refutation of some of the false conceits in Mr. Locke's essay concerning humane understanding Together with a brief answer (in Latine) to the argument of Gerardus de Vries against the innate idea of God. By Edmund Elys, sometime fellow of Baliol-Colledge in Oxford. Elys, Edmund, ca. 1634-ca. 1707. 1697 (1697) Wing E692A; ESTC R231994 10,365 37

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A REFUTATION OF Some of the False Conceits IN Mr. LOCKE's ESSAY CONCERNING Humane Vnderstanding Together with a Brief Answer in Latine to the Argumentation of GERARDVS de VRIES against the Innate Idea of GOD. By Edmund Elys sometime Fellow of Baliol-Colledge in Oxford 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Plato LONDON Printed for and Sold by Will. Marshal at the Bible in Newgatestreet and John Marshal at the Bible in Grace Church-street 1697. THE PREFACE TO THE READER THE main Point in Debate in these Small Tracts is Whether it be most to the Glory of the Father of Spirits and to the Excellency of the Humane Immortal Spirit his Off-spring That an Idea of God the Infinite Spirit and Intellect should be Concreated with or Ingenerated into it when made in his Image Genesis 1. 27. Or such Idia only Rise up within it by its own Formation in the Exercise of Its-Self upon External Objects under the Ministry of Sense and its Ratiocinations upon them It is easily acknowledged The Latter comes in as an Additional to the Former and Flows Necessarily from it For the Invisible Things of Him from the Creation of the World are clearly seen being understood by the Things that are made even his Eternal and Godhead 1. it be denied but that This Method of Sense is nearest and lies most open to us in this Degenerate State wherein we are sunk down into Matter and Sense But this will not Decide the Controversie That alone can do it that can give us the Original Make of our Minds or Intellectual Spirits and wherein the Divine Glory most manifested it self within us at the First And that is the Word of God Alone Now That bath Declared The 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The Idea of God as the Word Properly may be Translated is Manifested in men For God hath shewed it to Them by the same Impress of Creation by which He made Weights for the Wind and a Way for the Lightning of Thunder He said by Intellectual Inspiration Job 28. 28. The Fear of the Lord That is Wisdom As now in Regeneration or New Creation the Spirit is Renewed in the same Image in Knowledge Righteousness and True Holiness Ephesians 4. 24. Colossians 3. 20. So He was First Created The Eclipse on this Idea is by Sin and Corruption the Alienation from God through the Ignorance in us and because of the Blindness of our Hearts v. 18. We are now Condemned as to the Mines in Attaining Knowledge and to work by Sense first This is the Great Intention of the Following Animadversions which according to Solomon's Advice Hastens to the Conclusion of the Matter Eccles 12. 13. Comprising Much in Little and so is Recommended to Divine Blessing and Publick Acceptance as Asserting from Scripture and Reason Enlightned by it An Vnderstanding cannot be an Vnderstanding in the Glory and Dignity of the First Creation but it must have the Image and Idea of the Infinite All Creating Vnderstanding upon it and within it though infinitely exceeding it A REFUTATION OF Some of the False Conceits in Mr. LOCKE's ESSAY concerning Humane Vnderstanding Essay concerning Humane Vnderstanding Book 1. Ch. 2. TO Imprint any thing on the Mind without the Mind 's perceiving it seems to me hardly intelligible Answ Almighty GOD the ONE Being Absolutely Infinite is in All Creatures and in a peculiar manner in All Rational Souls in that they are capable of Reflecting upon Him being in themselves and in All other Creatures The First Act of the Rational Soul is the Perception or Apprehension of Being Absolute or Vniversal For 't is impossible the Soul should Perceive or Apprehend this or that to be without any Notion or Appreheesion of Being Absolute or Universal which Being is GOD. In the Notion or Idea of GOD is implied the Idea of All Things since He is the Fountain of All Being To imprint any thing on the Mind or Rational Soul without the Mind 's perceiving it is as Intelligible as to make or create the Mind without the Mind 's perceiving it When we say That GOD has imprinted an Idea of Himself upon the minds of All men Our meaning is this That he has made use of such a Nature or Mode of Being that whensoever we REFLECT 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 according to such a State in which we were Created upon our own Souls we cannot but have some Notion or Perception of Him In whom we Live and Move and have our Being The Corruption of Humane Nature chiefly consists in the Defection of the WILL from the Divine Goodness to which Onely it ought to be Fully and Absolutely Inclin'd and in the Defection of the VNDERSTANDING of the One Infinite Essence which Defection of the UNDERSTANDING arises from the Perverseness of the WILL being Bent upon such Objects as if they were Absolutely Good which are but Vanity and vexation of Spirit unless they are affected by the WILL or Intellectual Appetite 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Onely in Reference to GOD the Fountain of All Goodness i. e. the One Being Absolutely Infinite To make Reason says he discover those Truths thus imprinted is to say that the Use of Reason discovers to a man what he knew before Answ By the Use of Reason or Exercise of our Understanding we discover or come to the Knowledge of that which was in our Understanding before though we did not Actually Apprehend or Reflect upon it Hence it appears that this Gentleman 's most Confident Assertion is no better than a Gross Falshood That we may as well think the Use of Reason necessary to make our Eyes discover Visible Objects as that there should be need of Reason or the Exercise thereof to make the Understanding see what is Originally engraven in it We hope this Gentleman upon a more mature Consideration will not deny That 't is Necessary that any Object should be in the Vnderstanding as imprest upon it or propos'd to it before it can be Perceiv'd Known or Assented unto as a Verity or that which Really is A thing visible must be in sight that is to say it must make some impression upon the Visive Faculty before it can be seen So an Object of the Intellect must make some Impression before it can be Actually Perceiv'd or Known Chap. 3. Sect. 1. The Ignorance wherein many men are of them viz. Practical Principles and the slowness of Assent wherewith others receive them are manifest Proofs that they are not Innate Answ This Ignorance and Slovvness are manifest Proofs that there is a Perverseness in the WILL Hindring the Vnderstanding from a due Reflection upon those Practical Principles vvhich are all implied in the Notion or Idea of the ONE Being Infinite in All Perfection For nothing can be more manifest than this That this Being is to be Lov'd vvith all our Heart and vvith all our Soul Upon this depend All other Practical Principles Chap. 3. Sect. 8. Conscience is nothing else but our own Opinion of our own