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A09061 An ansvvere to the fifth part of Reportes lately set forth by Syr Edvvard Cooke Knight, the Kinges Attorney generall Concerning the ancient & moderne municipall lawes of England, vvhich do apperteyne to spirituall power & iurisdiction. By occasion vvherof, & of the principall question set dovvne in the sequent page, there is laid forth an euident, plaine, & perspicuous demonstration of the continuance of Catholicke religion in England, from our first Kings christened, vnto these dayes. By a Catholicke deuyne. Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610. 1606 (1606) STC 19352; ESTC S114058 393,956 513

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judgement_n therein_o though_o i_o will_v wish_v the_o reader_n to_o peruse_v the_o place_n themselves_o here_o cite_v for_o that_o they_o will_v full_o satisfy_v he_o in_o this_o matter_n 21._o first_o then_o in_o his_o three_o book_n of_o priesthood_n compare_v the_o power_n of_o a_o king_n with_o the_o power_n of_o a_o priest_n he_o have_v these_o word_n habent_fw-la quidem_fw-la &_o terrestres_fw-la principes_fw-la vinculi_fw-la potestatem_fw-la verum_fw-la corporum_fw-la solum_fw-la etc._n etc._n power_n it_o be_v true_a that_o earthly_a prince_n have_v power_n to_o bind_v but_o our_o body_n only_o but_o the_o band_n which_o priest_n can_v lay_v upon_o we_o do_v touch_v the_o soul_n itself_o and_o reach_v even_o unto_o the_o heaven_n so_o far_o forth_o as_o whatsoever_o priest_n shall_v determine_v here_o beneath_o that_o do_v god_n ratify_v above_o in_o heaven_n and_o confirm_v the_o sentence_n of_o his_o servant_n upon_o earth_n and_o what_o be_v this_o i_o pray_v you_o but_o that_o god_n have_v give_v all_o heavenly_a power_n unto_o they_o according_a to_o those_o word_n of_o he_o who_o sin_n soever_o you_o shall_v retain_v they_o be_v retain_v 20._o and_o what_o power_n i_o beseech_v you_o can_v there_o be_v great_a than_o this_o i_o read_v that_o god_n the_o father_n give_v all_o manner_n of_o power_n unto_o his_o son_n 28._o and_o i_o see_v again_o that_o god_n the_o son_n have_v give_v over_o the_o self_n same_o power_n unto_o priest_n etc._n etc._n what_o a_o manifest_a madness_n then_o be_v it_o for_o any_o man_n to_o despise_v this_o princedom_n of_o priest_n without_o which_o we_o can_v possible_o be_v make_v partaker_n either_o of_o eternal_a salvation_n or_o of_o the_o good_a promise_n of_o our_o saviour_n etc._n etc._n quo_fw-la nomine_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la non_fw-la modo_fw-la plus_fw-la vereri_fw-la debemus_fw-la quam_fw-la vel_fw-la principes_fw-la vel_fw-la reges_fw-la verum_fw-la etiam_fw-la maiori_fw-la honore_fw-la quam_fw-la parent_n proprios_fw-la honorare_fw-la ibid._n in_o which_o respect_n we_o ought_v to_o reverence_n &_o fear_v priest_n more_o not_o only_o than_o prince_n and_o king_n but_o honour_v they_o also_o more_o than_o our_o own_o parent_n etc._n etc._n all_o these_o be_v s._n chrysostomn_n word_n dominum_fw-la 22._o and_o the_o same_o saint_n in_o his_o homily_n upon_o isaiah_n the_o prophet_n write_v thus_o rex_fw-la quidem_fw-la ea_fw-la quae_fw-la sunt_fw-la in_o terris_fw-la sortitu●_n est_fw-la administranda_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o king_n have_v receive_v the_o administration_n and_o government_n of_o those_o thing_n that_o be_v on_o the_o earth_n but_o the_o priest_n authority_n come_v from_o heaven_n whatsoever_o you_o shall_v bind_v say_v christ_n upon_o earth_n that_o shall_v be_v bind_v in_o heaven_n 16._o to_o my_o king_n be_v commit_v earthly_a thing_n but_o to_o i_o heavenly_a and_o when_o i_o say_v to_o i_o i_o understand_v a_o priest_n etc._n etc._n to_o the_o king_n be_v commit_v the_o body_n to_o the_o priest_n the_o soul_n the_o king_n can_v remit_v bodily_a spot_n but_o the_o priest_n can_v take_v away_o the_o spot_n of_o sin_n maior_fw-la hic_fw-la principatus_fw-la this_o principallitie_n of_o priest_n be_v great_a then_o that_o of_o king_n 23._o and_o yet_o further_o in_o another_o homily_n upon_o the_o same_o prophet_n sacerdotium_fw-la principatus_fw-la est_fw-la ipso_fw-la etiam_fw-la regno_fw-la venerabilius_fw-la &_o maiu●_n ne_fw-fr mihi_fw-la narres_fw-la purpuram_fw-la etc._n etc._n ●_o priesthood_n be_v a_o princedom_n yea_o more_o venerable_a and_o great_a then_o be_v a_o kingdom_n do_v not_o tell_v i_o of_o the_o purple_a or_o diadem_n or_o sceptre_n or_o golden_a apparel_n of_o king_n for_o these_o be_v but_o shadow_n and_o more_o vain_a than_o flower_n at_o the_o spring_n time_n si_fw-mi vis_fw-la videre_fw-la descrimen_fw-la quantum_fw-la absit_fw-la rex_fw-la à_fw-la sacerdote_fw-la expende_v modum_fw-la potestatis_fw-la utrique_fw-la 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