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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A42751	A treatise against superstitious Jesv-worship wherein the true sense of Phil. 2, 9-10 is opened, and from thence is plainly shewed and by sundry arguments proved, that corporall bowing at the name Jesus, is neither commanded, grounded, or warranted thereupon ... / written especially for the benefit of weake seduced persons that have a zeale towards God, though not according to knowledge by Mascall Giles.	Giles, Mascall, 1595 or 6-1652.	1642 (1642)	Wing G738; ESTC R28636	55,934	65

in other Scriptures though often therein used Oh! It highly concerns us in season to provide Oyle in our Lamps that we may meet Christ with comfort at that great day and not to be like children as Bishop Babington well notes playing with letters and syllables and adoring Titles with that honour which is due to the Person It is Sathans Policy to exercise men with trifles that he may steale away their hearts from that which is necessary as wofull experience proves too true in such as are addicted to this will-worship To this I will subjoyne two other Arguments Whatsoever bowing is required by the Text shall not be fully perfected till the day of Judgement But bowing at the Name Jesus may be fully perfected before for many can now make a perfect low curtesie at the sound of that Name even almost to the ground Ergo Bowing at the Name Jesus is not required by the Text * Whatsoever bowing is required in the Text is already begun by every creature as I have proved before But corporall bowing at the Name Jesus is not practised in the least degree by the most of the creatures Ergo This bowing is not required in the Text SECTION IX VVHatsoever exposition of a Text will inferre an inequalitie of worship between the three Persons of the Trinitie is false But so to expound the Text as before-mentioned will inferre an inequalitie of worship between the three Persons of the Trinitie Ergo It is a false Exposition The Major is plaine because the three Persons being coequall ought to have a coequall worship agreeable to John 5. 23. Every one must honour the Sonne as they honour the Father The Minor is plaine for they by their exposition of the said Text of Phil. 2. 9 10. doe inferre a bowing at one of the Titles of the Sonne which they doe not practise at the Titles of any other Person The answer given to this reason is twofold First they affirme that they worship all alike in Spirit and Truth and that the word {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} translated even as in Iohn 5. 23. doth intend onely a truenes of worship not every way an equall correspondency I reply that the Persons being equall must have an equall worship and the word {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} must be there taken for the selfe-same worship in likenes and kinde because praise and glory and honour is due to God Rom. 11. last If to God then to every Person in Trinitie because every Person is God We are to serve God with our bodies as well as with our soules outward honour is true honour as well as that which is inward If then all honour both outward and inward be to be done to God not any honour must be performed to one Person that must not be performed to another therefore if we be bound to honour the Sonne by bowing at his Name we are also bound to honour the Father by bowing to his but if we be not bound so to honour the Father neither are we so bound to honour the Sonne For the exposition of the word {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} even as in Iohn 5. * Zanchius saith thus Even as they honour the Father that is I say saith he with the like selfe-same honour plainly wherewith all honour the Father and a little before To whom saith he an equall yea every way the selfe-same honour is due Secondly They answer that they doe not put a difference between the Three Persons for by bowing at the Name Jesus they worship all the three Persons in one because they cannot be divided I reply Though they cannot be divided yet they may be distinguished and that in their worship too else that place of John were to no purpose Saint Steven calls upon Christ personally and distinctly Act. 7. 59. So doth St Paul upon the Father Ephes. 3. 14. And the distinct Names of each Person doe not personally denote the other Persons as when I say I beleeve in God the Father I doe not in that Article say I beleeve in God the Sonne If then these men say that they honour every Person alike personally at the Name Jesus which they must say if they say any thing they confound the Persons For the Person of the Father is not in the Person of the Sonne nor the Person of the Sonne in the Person of the Father c. but the Persons are distinguished Every Person is in one Divine Essence and the whole Essence in every Person Therefore the Name Jesus being a proper Name to the Second Person and not the Name of the first or Third Person cannot denominate but onely the Second Person And it is plaine that the Name above every Name in the Text is onely proper to the Second Person because the Second Person onely was humbled therefore the Second Person onely received this Name From whence I agrue looke as the Sonne is personally honoured so must the Father be But the Sonne is Personally honoured by bowing at his Name Ergo So must the Father be Or the Father is not Personally honoured by bowing at his Name Therefore the Sonne must not be so honoured I grant that the honour of the Sonne is essentially the honour of all the three Persons because every Person is the selfe-same God according to Joh. 5. 24. But here the Question is of the Persons not of the Essence But let us reason from the Essence it makes against them They that honour the Sonne as they honour the Father must so honour the Sonne in the Father as they honour the Father in the Sonne But when they honour the Son in the Father they doe not bow at the Name of the Father Therefore when they honour the Father in the Sonne they must not bow at the Name of the Sonne for if they doe how doe they honour the Sonne as they honour the Father SECTION X. GOD will not require that dutie of any of his creatures to whom he hath not created Power of performance I say created to prevent an Objection But if corporall bowing at the Name Jesus be injoyned of God to all the creatures he should require that of the most of his creatures to whom he hath not created power of performance Therefore it is none of Gods injunctions The first part of the Argument cannot be denied without blasphemy by imputing crueltie to Almightie God The second part is also very plaine For what power have meere sensitive and insensitive creatures to bow at the Name Jesus as sheepe and oxen stones and minerals trees and plants which neither have knees to bow eares to heare hearts to understand when Jesus is named What shall not these be subject to Christ till Jesus be named or shall it be greater then than at another time how sensles will this be The true bowing which is the bowing of subjection as I have shewed is already performed in some degree by all

ancient and moderne Confessed also by the Champions for bowing at the Name Jesus as * Bishop Andrewes and * Mr Page who in his Treatise of Justification of Bowing understands the Text of the generall subjection of all Creatures to Christ at the great day of Judgement and is forward to alledge many Authors for it as Theophilact Anselme Aquinas Illyricus Hunnius and Hyperius Salmeron Zanchius and Estius and tels us that he could cite twice as many more if he pleased The Major therefore is undeniable For the Minor I never read any yet in Print to affirme that we shall all bow at the Name Jesus at the day of Judgement Master Page indeed coasteth towards it but speaks not out plainly For thus he answereth the Argument taken from the day of Judgement * Though all shall be subject to Christ then yet shall not we be subject before we needs must and declare our subjection by our bowing at the Name of Jesus for subjection doth not exclude but include bowing It shall be true of all knees then but it must be verified of some knees now I agree with him in this that there is a present equitie of the Text I consent to Mr Calvin who saith that though the Kingdome of Christ be not prefect till the day of Judgement yet it is begun already and encreaseth daily * Christ hath now all things under his feete and all Creatures are at his Rule and becke and must and shall fulfill not their owne will but the will of Christ though they shall not be perfectly subdued till the last day But yet Master Pages inference is not to the purpose for to affirme that because we must be all subject to Christ at the day of Judgement therefore we must declare our subjection by bowing at the Name Jesus is all one as to affirme because servants must be subject to their Masters that they must shew their subjection by bowing at their Masters Name or because wives must be subject to their husbands therefore they must make a cursie at the Name of their Husbands But if Master Page will speake to the purpose he must say thus Because all creatures shall declare their subjection by bowing at the Name Jesus at the last day accordingly we must now witnes our subjection This inference is right if he can prove his ground but that lyes upon the proofe Of necessitie our present bowing must be according to the future the parts must be according to the whole the prefect bowing must regulate the imperfect therefore if bowing at the Name Jesus shall not be performed at that day it concernes none so to bow now Some to whom I have put this Argument and finding it too hot for them stand to it to affirme that bowing at the Name Jesus shall be fulfilled at the day of Judgement but they cannot prove it otherwise than by seeking shelter at this Text If any such assertion shall ever come in Print I am confident that every judicious Reader will smile at it if not grieve to see the wilfulnes of such men that rather than they will yeeld to the truth will justifie such dangerous Paradoxes I will therefore by Gods assistance encounter with it and I thinke I shall upon better reasons disprove it than they can ever prove it First There is no Scripture for it and it is in no wise to be imagined that so many cleere Scriptures speaking so fully and plainly of the Judgement-day and of the deportment of those that shall then appeare should say nothing of this ceremony of bowing at the name Jesus if it were then to be done Secondly To what end shall the Name Jesus be sounded out at that day that all shall bow at the sound of it When he shall then appeare in his most glorious Name of Power and Glory when he shall not come as a Jesus to the most that shall then bow but a Lord to all and so shall all call him Mat. 25. 37. 44. Thirdly It is absurd to imagine that the Holy Ghost would describe the perfection of Christs Kingdome onely by such a gesture as a childe can performe at the mention of his Father Fourthly Bishop Andrewes the late Father of the corporall bowing at the Name Jesus will confute it by a saying of his He is exalted to whose Person knees doe bow His Person is taken out of our sight all that we can doe will not reach to it but his Name he hath left behinde him to us that we may shew by our reverence and respect to it how much we esteeme him If then we must now bow to the Name because the Person of Christ is out of our sight then it followes that when Christ shall manifest his Person there will be no time or place for bowing at the Name But by the Bishops reason seeing he acknowledgeth the fulfilling of the Text at the day of Judgement it will follow that Christ shall send out his Name at that day to have it sounded out that all should bow at it and not come himselfe in Person or else if then he come in Person he must leave his Name behinde him and so the duty of the Text shall not be fulfilled Againe It is very absurd to affirme that our worship will reach to the Name but not to the Person of Christ for shall veneration and honour reach to a bare Name as it is sounded out by the breath of man who is lesse than nothing Isa. 40. 17. And can no worship reach to the Person who besides that he is in the glory of the Father in the heavens as man also is every where present by his infinite Deitie and especially present in and among his Saints by his Spirit Names be signes and a kinde of images of things or Persons represented by them An Idolater bowes to an image which he doth see because he deemes that it represents unto him the Person whom he adores which he cannot see whereas if the Person were present before him he would never bow to the Image The Name Jesus is as it were the signe or image of our Saviour it would be therefore worse than Idolatry it selfe to bow to Christs image efore his owne face If any shall yet inferre that though all other Scriptures say nothing for the bowing at the Name Jesus at the Judgement day yet it is enough that it be specified in one Text as viz. in this present Text of Phil. 2. 9 10. I answer It is utterly against reason to imagine that if bowing at the Name Jesus were to be done at the Judgement day that the Holy Ghost would omit to specifie it in so many cleere places treating of the Judgement day and would set it downe in an obscure Text that treats not plainly of the Judgement day but as it must be enlightned by other cleere Scriptures and that in such words and phrases that are different in sense to all those words and phrases