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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A93589	An end of one controversie: being an answer or letter to Master Ley's large last book, called Light for smoke. One of the Assembly at Westminster. Which he writ lately against me. In which the sum of his last book, which relates to the most material passages in it, is gathered up and replied to. / By John Saltmarsh, not revolted (as Master Ley saith) from a pastoral calling; but departed from the Antichristian ministery by bishops, and now a preacher of the Gospel.	Saltmarsh, John, d. 1647.	1646 (1646)	Wing S479; Thomason E333_17; ESTC R200756	7,943	14

I have men believe as they list as you say of me I would onely not have men forced to believe as others list as you or your Brethren list I would have Faith wrought by the Spirit of God not by the spirits of men who have no dominion over Faith To the 6. And why do you speak so of a loud Conquest over me Truth is not conquer'd when the man is trampled on It is not your being great can make you a Conquerer no more then your calling by the Bishops a true Presbyter To the 7. And for your desire rather to deal with Bellarmine then me I did not think I had been so formidable an enemy but I will not presume Indeed Bellarmine is a more easie adversary because he opposes the Truth and I though a weak one may be more considerable because Truth defends me rather then I the Truth for I will rather make it my champion then my self a champion for it And for my new-sprung Notions as you say call Truth Notion or new or what you will you can never call it out of its own nature or essence And Truth is Gods own notion neither mine nor yours and new onely to the old man not to him who after God is created in righteousnesse and true holinesse To the 8. Nor am I lesse a Disputant in Divinity because against forms of Art and Logick as you say I may dispute in Christs School though refused in the School of Tyrannus And if you will chalenge me in any point of Philosophie I shall not refuse you there in Logick or Forms of Art They are forms onely for the wisedom of men not the wisedom of God Nor dare I take my discoveries of Christ from Reason nor seek the glory of him in forms so much belowe him and fashion the Creator like to the Creature who is God blessed for ever You and I must die more to vain Philosophie to the wisedom of the Greek to the rudiments of the world I allow Learning its place anywhere in the kingdoms of the world but not in the Kingdom of God To the 9. For my being a Vbiquitary as you say in belief and your proof of this from the several Opinions stated in my book Can you be so unfaithful to that Book I Can you who would be counted an Orthodox and a Divine thus force and compel those Opiniont upon me or not rather upon the Paper onely where they are printed Because I stated the Opinions of men Am I therefore a man of all those Opinions The best is the world may convince you of this and of my purpose in that And now you are thus unfaithful in a little I may suspect you for more Are you one of those who pretend to be in the mount with God and to give Laws for Religion Can we trust you in the more excellent mysteries of the Father while you trifle thus and deceive the Brethren To the 10. For my being an Antinomian If to say we serve not in the oldnesse of the Letter but in the newnesse of the Spirit If to say The Law was given by Moses but grace and truth by Jesus Christ If to say We are not under the Law but under Grace If to say We are delivered from our enemies that we might 〈◊〉 him without fear in holines and righteousnes If to say The Commandment is holy just and good If to say Shall we sin that grace may abound God forbid If this be Antinomianisme I am one of that sort of Antinomians I know no other for my part though you have filled the world with a noise if this be heresie so worship we the God of our Fathers nor have I misquoted any but onely singled out that truth from many in one leaf before they spoiled it in the next and like Pilate who asking onely what truth was would not tarry by it but departed To the 11. And for my unstablenesse If to be sometimes darknesse and now light in the Lord If to put off the old man with the former lusts and to put on the new If to come out of Babylon when the Spirit calls If to adde to faith vertue to vertue patience to patience godlinesse c. If to grow in the encreasings of God to a fulnesse of stature in Christ If leaving things that are behinde and pressing to things that are before be unstablenesse let me be always thus changing till he who can onely change our vile bodies fashion me like unto his own glorious body To the 12. Nor do I glory I hope in the quick dispatch of what I do but do not you as well over deliberate as I over dispatch and glory in that but are you no better acquainted with the Spirit in the things of God Are we to be ever consulting with flesh and blood did the disciples and Brethren when they spake the Word of God tugge first amongst so many School-men so many Fathers so many moderne Divines so many Commentators so many old Poets as you do Or rather onely with the Word and Spirit and power of Christ and for that of your Poetrie and your Brewer I desire not to shew so much of the oldman or former corruption as to sparkle so lightly with you To the 13. For my Interposing being no delay to the Government as you say Why do you say then in other places I presented you wish a former Book against Mr. Saltmarsh his Remora And again Mr. Saltmarsh Quare to retard the establishment I pray now be friends first with your self before you bee too much an enemie to the truth or to me and though I cannot stand in the way of the establishment I am the least in my Fathers house I am but as the flie upon the wheel yet truth is mighty and of that power as it can weigh heavie upon your Chariot-wheels when you would be driving into the red Sea of persecution and pursuing Israel To the 14. Whereas you say you are wished to be better imployed then in writing they are your friends indeed that wish so you cannot be worse imployed I am su●● then in speaking ill of your brethren in advancing your selves in Lording it over the heritage in tryumphing upon the vantage ground of your place and power in applicating and at the same time judging the Magistrate or in a word intreating them that they may rule not you or your Presbyterie but whom you allow them from your Prerayterie And for others undertaking me as many as please for I fear not an host nor a multidude of pen-me● I see more for us then against us I know this present Presbyterie may have many pensioners there are such great livings of hundreds a year to spice the government the silver shrines had many that cried great was Diana of the Ephesians Mr. Leys Treatise 1. THe gradual subordination of Assemblies is made good by the learned book of Mr. Rutherford against the Congregationall Independency 2. The