Selected quad for the lemma: spirit_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
spirit_n	father_n	speak_v	word_n	8,168	5	4.4024	3	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A85777	A contention for truth: in two several publique disputations. Before thousands of people, at Clement Dane Church, without Temple Barre: upon the 19 of Nevemb. [sic] last: and upon the 26 of the same moneth. Betweene Mr Gunning of the one part, and Mr Denne on the other. Concerning the baptisme of infants; whether lawful, or unlawful.	Gunning, Peter, 1614-1684.; Denne, Henry, 1606 or 7-1660?	1658 (1658)	Wing G2234; Thomason E963_1; ESTC R202279	30,275	53

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therefore_o baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v not_o of_o god_n res_n baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v to_o very_o good_a purpose_n namely_o to_o wash_v away_o their_o original_a sin_n that_o so_o they_o may_v be_v make_v the_o child_n of_o god_n without_o which_o they_o can_v be_v save_v except_o any_o one_o be_v bear_v of_o water_n and_o of_o the_o spirit_n he_o can_v enter_v into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n opp._n i_o will_v prove_v that_o baptism_n can_v wash_v away_o the_o sin_n of_o infant_n if_o all_o the_o sin_n that_o infant_n be_v or_o can_v be_v guilty_a of_o be_v take_v away_o before_o baptism_n then_o baptism_n can_v wash_v it_o away_o but_o all_o the_o sin_n that_o infant_n be_v or_o can_v be_v guilty_a of_o be_v wash_v away_o before_o baptism_n therefore_o baptism_n can_v wash_v away_o sin_n of_o infant_n res_n the_o sin_n of_o infant_n be_v not_o wash_v away_o before_o baptism_n oppo_n if_o infant_n have_v no_o other_o sin_n but_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o world_n whereof_o they_o 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sin_n of_o the_o world_n by_o his_o death_n oppo_n john_n 1._o 29._o behold_v the_o lamb_n of_o god_n that_o take_v away_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o world_n 1._o pet._n 2._o 24._o who_o himself_o bear_v our_o sin_n in_o his_o own_o body_n on_o the_o tree_n heb._n 9_o 28._o christ_n be_v once_o offer_v to_o bear_v the_o sin_n of_o many_o with_o a_o multitude_n of_o place_n deut._n 9_o 24._o to_o finish_v sin_n and_o make_v a_o end_n of_o transgression_n etc._n etc._n res_n christ_n do_v not_o actual_o take_v away_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o world_n but_o only_o potential_o in_o procure_v a_o possibility_n of_o pardon_n upon_o condition_n perform_v namely_o of_o faith_n repentance_n and_o baptism_n in_o those_o that_o be_v of_o year_n of_o discretion_n and_o of_o baptism_n in_o infant_n and_o as_o they_o who_o be_v of_o year_n of_o discretion_n can_v have_v sin_n take_v away_o without_o repentance_n faith_n and_o baptism_n no_o more_o can_v infant_n without_o baptism_n opp._n i_o will_v prove_v that_o christ_n do_v actual_o take_v away_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o world_n by_o his_o death_n that_o which_o be_v not_o impute_v be_v actual_o take_v away_o but_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o world_n be_v not_o impute_v therefore_o it_o be_v actual_o take_v away_o res_n the_o sin_n of_o the_o world_n be_v impute_v before_o baptism_n oppo_n 2._o cor._n 5._o 19_o god_n be_v in_o christ_n reconcile_v the_o world_n to_o himself_o not_o impute_v their_o trespass_n unto_o they_o coll._n 1._o 20._o and_o have_v make_v peace_n through_o the_o blood_n of_o his_o cross_n by_o he_o to_o reconcile_v all_o thing_n to_o himself_o heb._n 10._o 14._o by_o one_o offering_n he_o have_v perfect_v for_o ever_o they_o that_o be_v sanctify_v esa._n