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A56600 An answer to a book, spread abroad by the Romish priests, intituled, The touchstone of the reformed Gospel wherein the true doctrine of the Church of England, and many texts of the Holy Scripture are faithfully explained / by the Right Reverend Father in God, Symon, Lord Bishop of Ely. Patrick, Simon, 1626-1707. 1692 (1692) Wing P745; ESTC R10288 116,883 290

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be_v so_o far_o from_o be_v true_a that_o the_o two_o forename_a father_n lay_v down_o tradition_n for_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n or_o put_v it_o before_o the_o scripture_n that_o vincentius_n express_o put_v the_o divine_a scripture_n in_o the_o first_o place_n as_o our_o guide_n and_o then_o the_o ecclesiastical_a sense_n as_o a_o mean_n in_o some_o case_n to_o find_v the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n xiii_o cap._n xiii_o and_o tertullian_n as_o express_o in_o that_o very_a book_n which_o he_o quote_v and_o in_o the_o chapter_n precede_v make_v the_o apostle_n creed_n the_o rule_n of_o faith_n which_o be_v all_o contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n and_o needs_o the_o help_n of_o no_o tradition_n but_o that_o to_o prove_v it_o but_o after_o all_o i_o must_v ask_v what_o be_v all_o this_o which_o he_o babble_n in_o the_o conclusion_n of_o this_o
universal_a church_n and_o by_o err_a be_v mean_v depart_v from_o the_o truth_n in_o matter_n of_o necessary_a belief_n then_o we_o say_v the_o church_n though_o it_o may_v mistake_v in_o matter_n of_o lesser_a moment_n yet_o can_v thus_o err_v because_o christ_n will_v always_o have_v a_o church_n upon_o earth_n which_o can_v be_v without_o the_o belief_n of_o all_o thing_n necessary_a to_o make_v it_o a_o church_n but_o if_o by_o church_n be_v mean_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n or_o any_o other_o particular_a church_n we_o say_v it_o may_v err_v even_o in_o matter_n of_o necessary_a belief_n as_o st._n paul_n plain_o suppose_v in_o his_o caution_n he_o give_v the_o roman_n xi_o rom._n 20_o 21._o and_o thus_o many_o church_n have_v err_v and_o fall_v from_o christianity_n now_o what_o have_v he_o to_o say_v out_o of_o our_o bibles_n which_o be_v express_o contrary_a to_o this_o first_o he_o allege_v a_o place_n out_o of_o the_o prophet_n isaiah_n 21._o lix_n isa_n 21._o lix_n chap._n 21._o where_o there_o be_v not_o one_o express_a word_n either_o of_o the_o church_n or_o of_o it_o be_v not_o err_v but_o only_o of_o what_o god_n will_v do_v for_o those_o who_o turn_v from_o transgression_n in_o jacob_n as_o the_o word_n before_o go_v be_v upon_o who_o we_o may_v suppose_v he_o covenant_n and_o engage_v to_o bestow_v his_o spirit_n etc._n etc._n now_o before_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n who_o this_o man_n here_o intend_v can_v apply_v this_o text_n to_o themselves_o they_o must_v prove_v that_o they_o be_v the_o people_n who_o turn_n from_o transgression_n in_o jacob_n which_o will_v be_v a_o very_a difficult_a task_n and_o when_o that_o be_v do_v this_o text_n may_v prove_v to_o be_v a_o command_n rather_o than_o a_o promise_n that_o it_o be_v their_o duty_n have_v god_n spirit_n who_o by_o faith_n and_o charity_n be_v diffuse_v in_o the_o whole_a church_n that_o be_v in_o the_o heart_n of_o the_o faithful_a as_o menochius_fw-la hear_v gloss_n and_o his_o word_n that_o be_v say_v he_o his_o precept_n they_o shall_v keep_v they_o faithful_o and_o not_o suffer_v they_o to_o depart_v out_o of_o their_o own_o mouth_n and_o their_o own_o heart_n as_o he_o go_v on_o or_o out_o of_o the_o mouth_n and_o heart_n of_o their_o child_n it_o be_v a_o most_o wretched_a inference_n for_o after_o all_o his_o brag_n of_o express_a text_n he_o be_v fain_o to_o come_v to_o that_o at_o last_o which_o this_o man_n draw_v from_o hence_o therefore_o the_o church_n can_v err_v he_o may_v with_o respect_n to_o the_o sense_n have_v say_v more_o colourable_o therefore_o the_o church_n can_v sin_v the_o folly_n of_o which_o every_o one_o see_v man_n be_v too_o negligent_a on_o their_o part_n when_o god_n have_v do_v he_o the_o next_o place_n be_v less_o to_o the_o purpose_n for_o it_o be_v a_o peculiar_a promise_n as_o appear_v by_o the_o whole_a context_n unto_o the_o apostle_n of_o christ_n 16._o fourteen_o joh._n 16._o in_o who_o heart_n he_o promise_v the_o holy_a ghost_n shall_v inhabit_v as_o menochius_fw-la expound_v it_o perform_v the_o office_n of_o a_o comforter_n and_o of_o a_o instructor_n and_o this_o for_o ever_o not_o for_o so_o short_a a_o time_n as_o christ_n stay_v on_o earth_n with_o they_o but_o all_o the_o day_n of_o their_o life_n but_o let_v we_o extend_v this_o promise_n to_o their_o successor_n they_o can_v never_o prove_v the_o apostle_n have_v no_o successor_n but_o only_o at_o rome_n to_o which_o this_o promise_n can_v by_o no_o inference_n be_v confine_v but_o must_v extend_v to_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n with_o who_o he_o be_v still_o present_a by_o his_o spirit_n to_o preserve_v they_o in_o the_o way_n of_o truth_n if_o they_o will_v be_v lead_v by_o it_o in_o the_o next_o place_n xviii_o mat._n 17._o he_o be_v at_o his_o c_o ll●ctions_n again_z instead_o of_o express_a word_n for_o his_o talon_n be_v mere_a brag_n 17._o xviii_o matth._n 17._o without_o any_o performance_n but_o how_o do_v he_o gather_v from_o this_o text_n that_o the_o church_n can_v err_v why_o that_o he_o leave_v to_o his_o reader_n tell_v he_o only_o it_o may_v be_v clear_o gather_v but_o he_o for_o his_o part_n do_v not_o know_v how_o though_o it_o may_v be_v other_o do_v let_v they_o try_v who_o have_v a_o mind_n i_o can_v find_v nothing_o in_o this_o place_n which_o concern_v matter_n of_o faith_n and_o he_o himself_o seem_v to_o be_v sensible_a of_o it_o when_o he_o say_v the_o church_n can_v err_v in_o her_o censure_n but_o what_o church_n be_v this_o and_o what_o censure_n it_o belong_v to_o every_o church_n to_o censure_v he_o that_o wrong_v his_o brother_n after_o he_o have_v be_v admonish_v of_o the_o injury_n he_o have_v do_v first_o in_o private_a and_o then_o before_o two_o or_o three_o witness_n this_o be_v do_v where_o shall_v he_o be_v proceed_v against_o but_o in_o the_o church_n where_o he_o live_v unto_o which_o if_o he_o will_v not_o submit_v but_o continue_v obstinate_o his_o injurious_a action_n he_o be_v just_o to_o be_v look_v upon_o as_o no_o christian_n no_o man_n that_o be_v unprejudiced_a can_v read_v this_o text_n with_o all_o its_o circumstance_n and_o not_o take_v this_o to_o be_v the_o sense_n of_o the_o word_n and_o then_o if_o they_o prove_v the_o church_n can_v err_v we_o shall_v have_v as_o many_o infallible_a tribunal_n as_o there_o be_v church_n 8._o xxxv_o be_v 8._o that_o which_o follow_v xxxv_o isa_n 8._o speak_v of_o not_o err_v but_o say_v nothing_o of_o the_o church_n unless_o he_o make_v the_o church_n to_o be_v fool_n who_o the_o prophet_n say_v shall_v not_o err_v how_o much_o wise_a will_v this_o man_n have_v be_v if_o he_o have_v but_o consult_v some_o such_o author_n as_o menochius_fw-la who_o observe_v that_o the_o prophet_n say_v v._o 4._o god_n will_v come_v he_o will_v and_o save_v you_o i._n e._n god_n incarnate_a as_o he_o expound_v it_o by_o the_o way_n here_o mention_v v._n 8._o understand_v that_o narrow_a way_n which_o he_o teach_v lead_v by_o holiness_n of_o manner_n and_o life_n to_o the_o holy_a place_n i._n e._n to_o heaven_n and_o upon_o the_o last_o word_n fool_n shall_v not_o err_v therein_o give_v we_o this_o good_a protestant_a gloss_n for_o even_o the_o simple_a and_o unskilful_a may_v easy_o learn_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n the_o way_n be_v plain_a in_o these_o matter_n and_o none_o need_v err_v about_o they_o unless_o they_o will_n and_o i_o wish_v it_o be_v not_o a_o wilful_a error_n in_o this_o man_n to_o say_v that_o we_o affirm_v the_o whole_a church_n and_o all_o holy_a man_n that_o ever_o have_v be_v therein_o for_o these_o 1000_o year_n have_v err_v there_o can_v be_v a_o great_a calumny_n for_o we_o believe_v the_o whole_a church_n can_v stray_v from_o the_o way_n that_o lead_v to_o heaven_n though_o some_o particular_a church_n may_v there_o be_v nothing_o contrary_a to_o this_o in_o v._o ephes_n 27._o 27._o v._o ephes_n 27._o which_o if_o it_o prove_v any_o thing_n of_o this_o nature_n prove_v the_o church_n be_v so_o perfect_o pure_a that_o it_o have_v no_o sin_n in_o it_o but_o i_o doubt_v we_o must_v stay_v for_o this_o happiness_n till_o the_o other_o world_n when_o the_o church_n will_v indeed_o be_v make_v a_o glorious_a church_n i_o have_v note_v as_o he_o desire_v the_o word_n without_o spot_n wrinkle_n or_o any_o blemish_n and_o yet_o i_o think_v it_o possible_a that_o some_o church_n or_o other_o have_v teach_v horrible_a blasphemy_n and_o abomination_n for_o st._n john_n in_o the_o revelation_n tell_v we_o it_o be_v not_o only_o possible_a but_o certain_a xvii_o rev._n 3_o 4._o and_o there_o be_v we_o think_v very_o evident_a proof_n that_o the_o present_a roman_a church_n of_o which_o he_o be_v so_o fond_a and_o always_o have_v in_o his_o mind_n when_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o church_n be_v describe_v by_o st._n john_n in_o that_o place_n we_o have_v see_v so_o little_a in_o these_o text_n that_o i_o can_v find_v in_o my_o heart_n to_o look_v into_o the_o rest_n several_a of_o which_o we_o have_v have_v already_o as_o xxii_o luk._n 32._o xxiii_o mat._n 3._o xvii_o deut._n 8._o xv._o act._n 28._o and_o he_o seem_v to_o have_v intend_v nothing_o but_o mere_o to_o make_v a_o show_n of_o more_o strength_n than_o he_o have_v which_o make_v he_o thrust_v in_o among_o the_o rest_n v._o ephes_n 27._o which_o i_o have_v just_a now_o examine_v his_o father_n also_o be_v only_a name_n without_o their_o sense_n and_o so_o let_v they_o pass_v next_o he_o say_v we_o affirm_v vii_o that_o the_o church_n have_v be_v hide_v and_o invisible_a he_o still_o go_v on_o in_o his_o ambiguous_a way_n of_o state_v our_o