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A96990 A vindication of W.P. from the erronious [sic] and false testimony of Thomas Budd: being in answer to a sheet of his, entituled, A testimony for truth, against error. / By Joseph Wyeth. Wyeth, Joseph, 1663-1731. 1697 (1697) Wing W3763; ESTC R186899 10,261 29

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A VINDICATION OF W. P. FROM THE Erronious and False Testimony OF Thomas Budd BEING In Answer to a Sheet of his ENTITULED A Testimony for Truth against Error By Joseph Wyeth London Printed and Sold by T. Sowle next Door to the Meeting-house in VVhite-Hart-Court in Gracious-street and at the Bible in Leaden-hall-street near the Market 1697. A VINDICATION OF W. P. FROM THE Erronious and False Testimony OF T. BVDD c. HAving met with a Sheet Entituled A Testimony for Truth against Error Subscribed Thomas Budd in which he Charges W. P. with denying some of the Chief Principles of Christianity After Reading the Sheet I was very desirous to get those Books of W. P's mentioned by T. Budd that I might examine the Quotations from which he pretends to draw this Charge of Error accordingly I did with some difficulty get them and have Examined the Pages refer'd to by T. Budd and have just reason to be Amazed that after such picking leaving out and sometimes forging W. P's Adversaries Words for W. P's a Man should have so hard a Fore-head as to Entitule it A Testimony for Truth when in truth it is a Testimony of as great Villany as one Man can be capable of towards another and nothing but Malice and Apostacy could be the Parent of so Monstruous a Production which yet I know cannot at all influence those who know and impartially consider the different Caracters and Qualities of W. P. and T. Budd But to some who know them not otherwise than as this Erronious Testimony against Truth represents may not having the Books to examine take this Monster of a Draught for W. P's True Figure For the Information of such and now having the Books by me as also to do Justice to W. P. I have undertaken this wherein I shall do little more than to set down the places as they are quoted by T. Budd and then subjoyn the places as they are in W. P's Books which will be found sufficient to prove that W. P. do's not deny The Father the Word and the Holy Spirit to be God nor that Christ was wounded for our Transgressions and bore our Griefs nor deny that Jesus Christ was the Son of God that died at Jerusalem nor that we are Justified through the Righteousness of Christ nor that Jesus is the Messiah the Christ of God or the Resurrection of the Body nor Undervalue the Scriptures All which Blasphemy Heresie and Error he pretends to find in the Books following as they are Cited by him His First Quotation is out of Sandy Foundation p. 12 13 15. If God as the Scriptures Testifie hath never been declared or believed but as the Holy One then will it follow that God is not a Holy Three nor doth subsist in Three distinct or separate Holy Ones and since the Father is God the Son is God and the Spirit is God Then unless the Father Son and Spirit are Three distinct Nothings they must be Three distinct Substances and consequently Three distinct Gods Thus he Now to give some Light in this matter it may be convenient to give the Reader a Brief Account of the occasion of this Book and method which the Author W. P. has taken in the Writing of it As to the first viz. The occasion it was this Thomas Vincent in a Meeting of his said That the Quakers held Damnable Doctrines George Whitehead being present stood up and as it was his place willingly would have given the People an Information of our Principles which if Objected against he was ready to defend them by the Authority of Scripture and Reason which T. Vincent prevented and put the following Question Whether we owned one Godhead Subsisting in Three distinct and separate Persons This was the occasion of this Book next as to the method it is this W. P. refutes the the Doctrine built upon the fore-going Question first from Scripture next from Right Reason shewing many Irreligious and Irrational Consequences flowing from that Doctrine and all this intermix'd with many Informations and Cautions concerning it Now the two first Lines of T. Budd's Quotation are part of an Argument drawn from Scripture by W. P. against the Doctrine in the Quotation above and the rest of that Quotation is part of one of those Irreligious Consequences which W. P. shews in the Book before Cited to be the result of the same Doctrine But besides this abusive patching and setting down as W. P's Sentiment what W. P. sets down as an Irreligious Consequence T. B. does not come up to the Terms of Question which is concerning Three distinct and separate Persons Subsisting in one God If he can prove this from Scripture then he proves what W. P. hath denied But while T. Budd does only set down the Testimony of the Apostle viz. That the Father the Word and the Spirit are the Three that bear Record in Heaven and are One God He does not at all shew himself to believe the Question in the Terms W. P. denies it And for such Holy Three as is mentioned in Scripture which have none of the Terms W. P. opposes he hath sufficiently shewn his Belief thereof not only in the Confession of Faith hereafter mentioned but also in his Innocency with Her open Face and his Key And many of his Books which do at all border upon that Point of Faith This for T. Budd's first Charge His Second is The Denial of Christ's Satisfaction for Proof of which T. Budd hath made a Quotation out of the same Book viz. Sandy Foundation p. 16 18 21 22. W. P. saith The Justice offended being Infinite his Satisfaction ought to bear a proportion therewith which Jesus Christ as Man could never pay he being Finite and from a Finite Cause could not proceed an Infinite Effect Since Christ could not pay what was not his own it follows that in the payment of his own the Case still remains equally grievous since the Debt is not hereby absolved or forgiven but transfer'd only and by consequence we are no better provided for Salvation than before owing that now to the Son which was once owing to the Father It no way renders Men beholding or in the least obliged to God since by their Doctrine he would not have abated us nor did he Christ the least Farthing Hitherto T. Budd's Quotation but the Doctrine which W. P. does in the Pages before Cited oppose is mentioned by W. P. in p. 14. of Sandy Foundation and is in the Terms following Doctr. That Man having Transgressed the Righteous Law of God and so exposed to the Penalty of Eternal Wrath it 's altogether impossible for God to remit or forgive without a plenary Satisfaction and that there was no other way by which God could obtain Satisfaction or save Men then by Inflicting the Penalty of Infinite Wrath and Vengeance on Jesus Christ the Second Person in the Trinity who for Sins past present and to come hath wholly borne and paid it to
the offended Infinite Justice of his Father AGainst this Rigid and Unscriptural Doctrine VV. P. brings about Fifteen Texts of Scripture and from them shews the great Forgiveness of God after them in p. 17 18. he refutes this Doctrine from Right Reason shewing why Jesus Christ as Man could not be a plenary Satisfaction the place is thus p. 18. 6. Tbe Justice Offended being Infinite his Satisfaction ought to bear a proportion therewith which Jesus Christ as Man could never pay he being Finite and from a Finite Cause could not proceed an Infinite Effect for so Man may be said to bring forth God since nothing below the Divinity of Christ it self can rightly be Stiled Infinite Of this Reason T. Budd cut off the last Line But to go on W. P. having in this and six or seven particulars more shewn the contrariety of the Doctrine above to Right Reason he then numbers up nine Irreligious and Irrational Consequences from the afore Doctrine The seventh and eighth Consequences in p. 19. runs thus Since Christ could not pay what was not his own it follows that in the payment of his own the case still remains equally grievous since the debt is not hereby absolved or fogiven but transfer'd only and by consequence we are no better provided for Salvation than before owing that now to the Son which was once owing to the Father 8. It no way renders Man beholding or in in the least oblig'd to God since by their Doctrine he would not have abated us nor did he Christ the least Farthing so that the acknowledgments are peculiarly the Sons which destroys the whole Current of Scripture Testimony for his good will towards Men. O the Infamous Portraiture this Doctrine draws of the Infinite Goodness Is this your Retribution O Injurious Satisfactionists Of this T. B. in his Quotation hath taken but about two Lines T. B's Third Charge is That W. P. hath denyed Jesus Christ the Son of God that Died at Jerusalem his Quotation is out of Serious Apology in Answer to T. Jenner p. 146. W. P. saith He T. Jenner takes up a whole Chapter in his endeavours to prove That we deny the Lord that bought us because we deny that Person the Son of God that Died at Jerusalem to be our Redeemer It will be convenient here to give some Brief Account of this Book before I give the Quotation out of it in order to its better Understanding which in short is this This Book Entituled A Serious Apology c. was written by W. P. in Answer and for the Clearing of the People called Quakers from the Malicious Aspersions Erronious Doctrines and Horid Blasphemies of Tho. Jenner and Timothy Taylor in a Book of theirs Entituled Quakerism Anatomized and Confuted In which Book among other things they say The Quakers deny the Lord that brought them c. In reply to this W. P. in p. 146. of the Apology says 1st He takes up a whole Chapter in his endeavours to prove that we deny the Lord that bought us though very falsly and with equal insuccess And here he brings in a Quotation out of Quakerism Anatomized c. p. 153 154. The Quotation is thus out of Jenner Because we deny that Person the Son of God that Dyed at Jerusalem to be our Redeemer And immediately W. P. subjoyns which most horid Imputation has been Answered more I believe than a Thousand times that is That he that laid down his Life and suffered his Body to be Crucified by the Jews without the Gates of Jerusalem is Christ the only Son of the most High God But that the outward Person or Body only which is what VV. P. meant as appears by what follow which Suffered was properly the Son of God we utterly deny and it is a perfect Contradiction to their own Principles A Body hast thou prepared me said the Son then the Son was not the Body though the Body was the Sons this brings him more under the charge of making him but a meer Man than us who acknowledge him to be One with the Father and of a Nature Eternal and Immortal for he was Glorified with the Father before the VVorld was The Patching and Horrid Forgery of T. Budd in this place is surely without Example for here he has not been content only to pick a Line but also to joyn to it as VV. P's a Quotation which VV. P. took out of his Adversaries Book to Answer as above To this Forgery he has also added Folly in that after picking two or three Lines of the last Quotation he has laid them down in his Sheet as a Charge of a different Nature from the last mentioned which he makes his Fifth Charge but this his Folly Blind Malice and Forgery falls back upon himself Such is the Shame and Confusion of him and all others who by Apostatizing from the Spirit of Truth are become Darkness I proceed now to T. Budd's Fourth Charge drawn out of p. 148. of this same Book and which is That VV. P. denies Justification by an Imputative Righteousness T. Budd's Quotation runs thus That we deny Justification by the Righteousness which Christ hath fulfilled in his own Person for us wholly without us and therefore deny the Lord that brought us In Answer to this VV. P. saith And indeed this we deny and boldly affirm it in the Name of the Lord to be the Doctrine of Devils and an Arm of the Sea of Corruption which does now delude the whole VVorld If Men may be Justified while Impure then God quits the Guilty Death came by actual Sin not imputative in his Sense therefore Justification unto Life comes by Actual Righteousness not Imputative But in the Apology it appears That VV. P. does in this Page of 148. bring a Quotation out of T. Jenner's Book p. 155 156 157 viz. That we deny Justification by the Righteousness which Christ hath fulfilled in his own Person for us wholly without us and therefore deny the Lord that bought us TO this VV. P. subjoyns And indeed this we deny and boldly affirm it in the Name of the Lord to be the Doctrine of Devils and an Arm of the Sea of Corruption which does now deluge the wbole VVorld And then goes on I shall not so much insist upon this as I have not upon the other four particulars they having been Irrefutable Considered and Answered by my Friend and Partner in this Discourse in the first Part of this Apology Only this I shall observe and add First No Man can be Justified without Faith says Jenner No Man hath Faith without Works any more than a Body can Live without a Spirit saith James viz. the Apostle Therefore the VVorks of Righteousness by the Spirit of Christ Jesus are necessary to Justification Secondly If Men may be Justified whilst impure then God quits the Guilty contrary to the Scripture which cannot be Thirdly Death came by Actual Sin not Imputative in his Sense therefore Justification unto Life