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A84808	Saul's errand to Damascus: with his packet of letters from the high-priests, against the disciples of the Lord. Or, A faithful transcript of a petition contrived by some persons in Lancanshire, who call themselves ministers of the gospel, breathing out threatnings and slaughters against a peaceable & godly people there, by them nick-named Quakers. Together with the defence of the persons thereby traduced, against the slanderous and false suggestions of that petition, and other untruths charged upon them. Published to no other end, but to draw out the bowels of tender compassion from all that love the poor despised servants of Jesus Christ, who have been the scorn of carnal men in all ages.	Fox, George, 1624-1691.; Lawson, John, of Lancaster.	1653 (1653)	Wing F1894; Thomason E689_17; ESTC R206937	30,408	48

blood of Christ this I witness Object 3. He did disswade men from reading the Scriptures telling them that it is carnal Answ For disswading men from reading the Scriptures that is false for they were given to be read as they are but not to make a Trade upon 1 Cor. 2.10 16. the Letter is carnal and killeth but that which gave it forth is spiritual eternal and giveth life and this I witness Oject 4. That he was equal with God Answ Heb. 2.11 That was not so spoken but that He that sanctifieth and they that are sanctified are of one and the Saints are all one in the Father and the Son of his flesh and of his bone this the Scripture doth witness And ye are the sons of God Eph. 5.30 and the Father and the Son are one and they that are joyned to the Lord are one spirit and they that are joyned to an Harlot are one flesh Object That God taught deceit Answ That is false and was never spoken by me God is pure Object That the Scriptures are Antichrist Answ That is false but that they which profess the Scriptures and live not in the life and power of them as they did that gave them forth that I witness to be Antichrist Object That he was the Judg of the world 1 Cor. 6.2 3. Answ That the Saints shall judge the world the Scripture witness it whereof I am one and I witness the Scripture fulfilled Object That he was as upright as Christ Answ Those words were not so spoken by me 1 Joh. 4.17 2 Cor. 5.21 Ioh. 17.21 22. Eph. 4.11 12 13. but that as he is so are we in this present world That the Saints are made the righteousness of God That the Saints are one in the Father and the Son that we shall be like him 1 Joh. 3.2 and that all teaching which is given forth by Christ is to bring the Saints to perfection even to the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ This the Scripture doth witness and this I witness Where Christ dwels must not he speak in his Temple Quaeries propounded to George Fox by some of the Contrivers of the Petition and by him Answered Querie WHether there be one individual God distinguished into the Father Son and Holy Ghost or not Answ Herein thou wouldest know whether God be individual yea or no which is but a busie minde for had'st thou the witness in thy self thou wouldst know what he is but the Heathen know not God and all that know him not are Heathen living in the wicked imaginations of their own hearts and that is thy condition For God is a Spirit and none know him but the Son and he to whom the Son is revealed the Son and Word is one He that hath ears to hear let him hear what the Spirit saith for thou natural man thou know'st not the things of God Qu. Whether a believer be justified by Christs righteousness imputed yea or no Answ He that believeth is born of God and he that is born of God is justified by Christ alone without imputation Qu. Whether he that believeth that Christ hath taken away his sin is clean without sin in this life as Christ himself or not Answ He that believeth is born of God and he that is born of God sins not neither can he sin because his seed remaineth in him as he is so are we in this present evil world Qu. Whether a believer be without all sin in this life or not Answ Christ being made manifest is made manifest to take away sin and in him is no sin at all he that abideth in him sins not he that sins is of the Devil and hath not seen him neither known him herein are the children of God made manifest and the children of the Devil All you that read these Queries read these things in your selves whether ye be the children of God or the children of the Devil and whether ye understand what ye write yea or no. Qu. Whether his works as well as his person be perfectly holy and good or no Answ A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit and if the root be holy the branches will be holy also and every one that doth righteousness is righteous even as he is righteous But as for that person it is a busie minde in thee that askst thou knowst not what for God is no respecter of persons he that respecteth persons commits sin and he that commits sin transgresseth the Law Qu. Whether Saints in this life without any addition hereafter are perfectly just perfectly holy compleatly glorious in this life and are not capable of any addition after death in the least degree but only of manifestation Answ If that thou know'st what a Saint is thou would'st know a Saints life for they passed thorow death to life but thou art yet alive to sin and dead to righteousness see if it be not so but he that is dead to sin is alive to righteousness and lives in God and God in him The Lord is our righteousness and he saith Be ye holy as I am holy for without holiness no man shall see the Lord. Be not deceived God will not be mocked Thou hypocrite dissemble not with him he that is perfectly holy is perfectly just where this is revealed there needs no addition for the man of God is perfect Qu. Whether the two Sacraments Baptism and the breaking of Bread ought necessarily to continue in the Church or not Answ Thou askest thou know'st not what concerning two Sacraments which there is no Scripture for Thou askest a question which is an addition to the Scripture and thou that doest add the plagues of God are added to thee Who come into the true Church are baptized with one Spirit into one body but as for sprinkling Infants there 's no Scripture for it I deny it in the true Church of God there is no talk of such carnal things Thou Sot the bread which the Saints break is of the body of Christ he is the bread of life The Church is not the steeple-house but the Church is in God and those that eat the bread of life live for ever the Church is in God and the bread of life is there and it shall continue for ever Qu. Whether Christ in the flesh be a figure or not and if a figure how and in what Answ Christ is the substance of all figures and his flesh is a figure for every one passeth through the same way as he did who comes to know Christ in the flesh there must be a suffering with him before there be a rejoycing with him Christ is an example for all to walk after and if thou knew'st what an example is thou wouldst know what a figure is to come up to the same fulness Qu. Whether there be any heaven or hell for the Elect or Reprobate after death but in man in this life or not Answ There is no knowledge of

SAVL's ERRAND TO DAMASCVS WITH His Packet of Letters from the High-Priests against the disciples of the Lord. OR A faithful Transcript of a PETITION contrived by some persons in Lancashire who call themselves Ministers of the Gospel breathing out threatnings and slaughters against a peaceable godly people there by them nick-named QVAKERS Together with the Defence of the persons thereby traduced against the slanderous and false suggestions of that Petition and other untruths charged upon them Published to no other end but to draw out the bowels of tender compassion from all that love the poor despised servants of Jesus Christ who have been the scorn of carnal men in all ages Matth. 5.10 11 12. Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness for theirs is the kingdom of heaven Blessed are ye when men shall revile you and persecute you and shall say all manner of evil against you falsly for my sake Rejoyce and be exceeding glad for great is your reward in heaven for so persecuted they the Prophets which were before you London printed for Giles Calvert at the black Spread-Eagle at the west-end of Pauls 1653. To all that love the Lord Jesus Christ. Dear hearts YOu love the Lord JESUS CHRIST and not him alone but Christ with all his Train Great shall be your compensation for your Love you shall have a Cant. 7.12 Loves Amores a plurality an infinity of Loves which none but God in Christ hath to bestow The best of his Relations upon earth have but Single Love and 't is happie they have Love to the Brethren But Christ hath Loves for the meanest of you the least of his May you and all his in whom there are yet but buds scarce visible appearances of Graces prove fruitful Vines grow from Buds to Blossoms from Blossoms to abundance of fruits That when the Lord shall get up early to visit his Vineyard you may feast him with pleasant fruits new and old you may bless him for his Loves of former and later days and be ever to him an humble holy and thankful and to his brethren a comforting people Glory in your habit you wear the signal Favours of the King of kings and Lord of hosts the Great and Mighty JEHOVAH Love By which I know to whom ye belong because ye love the Brethren TO The Contrivers and Subscribers of the Petition Poor hearts IS this a time to chide and be angry and pick quarrels and if you must needs do so can you finde no other objects of your indignation but the Lords Disciples but peaceable holy humble self-denying men Is not the work of the Ministery to preach the Gospel Is not the sword of the Magistrate appointed to the punishment of evil doers and to the praise of them that do well Are you incumbent in your duties are you laying out your Talents to the end they were given you or are you mistaken in the thing When did you proclaim war against Drunkards Swearers common Blasphemers enemies to the Lord and his people have you none of those amongst you or are your high-flown contending spirits gone beyond such slender wrastlings that you scorn to encounter with any below the degree of a Saint The Lord open your eyes and let you see and give you hearts to consider your several duties But tell me ye sons of Levi as ye call your selves ye that pretend a Jus Divinum to Persecution What will ye say when the Son of man shall come in his glory and all the holy Angels with him and shall sit upon the Throne of his glory and all Nations shall be gathered before him mind ye what wil be the great work of that great day your Petition will surely then be heard I beseech you read the paper of Causes set down to be first heard at that Tribunal in Matth. 25.31 to the end of the Chapter And the Lord let it dwell upon your hearts for ever To the Christian Reader THese are to let thee know that the only wise God at this time hath so by his providence ordered it in the North-parts of Lancashire that many pretious Christians and so for many years accounted before the nick-name Quakers was heard of have for some time past forborne to concorporate in Parochial Assemblies wherein they profess themselves to have gained little of the knowledge of Jesus Christ And it is and hath been put upon their hearts to meet often and on the Lords day constantly at convenient places to seek the Lord their Redeemer and to worship him in Spirit and in truth and to speak of such things tending to mutual edification as the good Spirit of the Lord shall teach them demeaning themselves without any offence given to any that truely fear the Lord. But true it is that some men and interests of those parts do take great offence at them and their Christian and peaceable exercises some because they have witnessed against pride and luxuriant fulness have therefore come armed with Sword and Pistols men that never drew a Sword for the interest of the Commonwealth of England perhaps against it into their assemblies in time of their Christian performances and have taken him whom the Lord at that instant had moved to speak to the rest and others of their assembly after they had haled and beaten them and carryed them bound hand and feet into the open fields in the cold of the night and there left them to the hazard of their lives had not the Lord of life owned them which he did in much mercy Others have had their houses broken in the night and entred by men armed as aforesaid and disguised when they have been peaceably waiting upon God with their owne and neighbour-families and yet these humble persecuted Christians would not even in these cases of gross and intolerable affronts acted equally against the peace of the Nation as against them complain but expressed how much in measure of their masters patience was given them in breathing out their Masters gentle words Father forgive them they know not what they do Who have at any time born such unheard-of persecution with so mild Spirits onely they in whom persecuted Christ dwells these poor creatures know how their Master fared and rejoyce to suffer with him by whom alone they hope to be glorified and are as well content to suffer as to reign with Christ but how unwillingly do we deny our selves and take up our cross and follow Christ and yet a necessity lies upon us if we will be the Lords Disciples to take up our cross dayly and follow him How is it then that the crown of Pride is so long upon the head of Persecutors how is it that such men should dare to divide the people of England to trouble the Councel of State in the throng of business concerning the management and improvement of all the mighty Series of glorious providence made out to this infant-Commonwealth with such abominable misrepresentations of honest pious

to their Ministers and of a People to their God but Opinions we deny for they are without God and there you are and justice and purity is but one and that we set up and owne purity and walking in the Spirit doth make a separation from all uncleanness and can have no fellowship with them who are unfruitful workers of darkness Rom. 1.2 but there is a separation from them the one hath fellowship with God and the other hath fellowship with darkness which be unfruitful the one is separated to God the other is separated from God Object Have drawn much people after them many whereof Men Women and Little-Children at their meetings are strangely wrought upon in their bodies and brought to fall foam at the mouth roar and swell in their bellies Answ The meetings of the people of God 1 Pet. 4.12 Psa 71.7 were ever strange to the world for it was as though some strange thing had happened to the Saints as ye read in the Scripture which shew ye are in the same generation Act. 13.41 wondring and stranging at the work of the Lord despising and casting scandals slanders and false reports upon them and where the works of God are now they think them strange things now as was then who are alive in the flesh Act. 9.4 5. It would be a strange thing to see one now fall downe Dan. 10.9 as Paul fell downe and trembled and as Daniel fell down and trembled and to see one as Habakkuk his belly to tremble and his lips to quiver Hab. 3.16 and as David to lye roaring all the day long who cryed till his sight was grown dim and his flesh failed of fatness and till he could number his bones and to see one as Isaiah to rent his garment and his mantle and pluck his hair off his head and off his beard and sit down astonished Isa 66.5 and would it not be strange to see such an Assembly as came to Isaiah which had all trembling hearts Hear the word of the Lord all ye that tremble at his word Work out your salvation with fear and trembling Before their faces the people shall be much pained Joel 2.6 all faces shall gather blackness The Prophets and Ministers of God have all one Spirit according to measure and did encourage those that did tremble wherein it shews that you have not the same Spirit but seek to persecute and fix scandals and accuse them falsly The Ministery of truth ever drew from all the Ministry of the world and from under all the laws of the world up to God and from all the Gods of the earth and then they witnessed that the Lord was their Law-giver the Lord was their King the Lord was their Judge Object George Fox professed and avowed that he was equal with God Answ It was not so spoken as George Fox was equal with God but the Father and the Son is one John 14.9 10. I and my Father are one and where the same is revealed this is witnessed but where the same is not made manifest and revealed Christ is persecuted for the world knows him not Let the same minde be in you Phil. 2.5 6 7. that was also in Christ Jesus who being in the form of God thought it not robbery to be equal with God and yet made himself of no reputation And this I witness to be fulfilled for the same Spirit where it is is equal with God for he that sanctifieth and they that are sanctified are all of one and it is God that sanctifieth Heb 2.11 Jude 1. Joh. 1.1 1 Cor. 15.47 48. 1 Joh. 3.7 He that hath the Word hath God for God is the Word and our fellowship is with God There is a natural man and there is a spiritual man the the first is of the earth earthly the second is the Lord from heaven the new man which is created after God in righteousness and true holiness and he that doth righteousness is righteous even as he is righteous And this I witness what the Scripture saith Let no man deceive you Object He professeth himself to be the eternal Judge of the world Answ He that was a Minister of God said that the Saints should judge the world 1 Cor. 6.2 3. yea Angels herein they do shew themselves to be no Ministers of God who seek to persecute them who are judged of God and justified by him where judgement is brought forth unto victory Mat. 12.20 and set in the earth and that which is eternal hath judged all the carnal nature in himself and where it is judged thereis no unity with it where it is alive and he that hath not true judgement Mat. 5.13 14. and Salt in himself to savour withall is good for nothing and he cannot endure that Christ should speak where he is made manifest I am the way saith Christ Christ is but one in all his Saints 1 Cor. 11.3 Mar. 13.11 and he speaks in them but he doth not say that George Fox is Christ I am the way the truth the life Christ is the light and ye are the light and Christ liveth in you and Christ is the head of the man and it is the Spirit of the Father that speaketh in you and spoke in Christ and he is but one in in all his Saints Isa 5.20 without are many Christs Lo here and lo there but know you not that Christ is in you except ye be Reprobates and if Christ be in you the body is dead because of sin and there Christ Jesus speaks the same Christ to day yesterday and for ever And thy judgement which is not eternal is carnal and with evil thoughts thou judgest thou puttest darkness for light and light for darkness and here thou shewest thy judgement to be carnal and no Minister of God but a Minister of the Letter and not of the Spirit for the Ministers of the Spirit have true judgement and did imprison none nor persecute as you do but it is that fools may utter forth their folly Object He said he was the way the truth the life Answ The old man cannot endure to hear the new man speak John 14.6 which is Christ and Christ is the way and if Christ be in you must not he say I am the way the truth and the life John 10.4 Now if Antichrist speak he is owned of the world but he cannot witness it while the old man raignes the voice of God is not known nor Christ himself to speak in man but Christs sheep know his voyce Object He said Whosoever took a place of Scripture and made a Sermon of it or from it was a Conjurer and his preaching was Conjuration Answ He that puts the Letter for the light John 8.12 when the Letter saith that Christ is the light he is blind and they that say the Letter and the Spirit are inseparable when the Spirit saith the Letter

cause of thy coming into these parts James If I may have liberty I shall declare it I was at the plow meditating on the things of God and suddenly I heard a voice saying unto me Get thee out from thy Kindred and from thy Fathers house and I had a promise given in with it Whereupon I did exceedingly rejoyce that I had heard the voyce of that God which I had professed from a Child but had never known him Col. Brigs Didst thou hear that voice Jam. Yea I did hear it and when I came at home I gave up my Estate cast out my mony but not being obedient in going forth the wrath of God was upon me so that I was made a wonder to all and none thought I would have lived but after I was made willing I began to make some preparation as apparel and other necessaries not knowing whither I should go But shortly afterward going agateward with a friend from my owne house having on an old Suit without any money having neither taken leave of wife or children not thinking then of any journey I was commanded to go into the West not knowing whither I should go nor what I was to do there but when I had been there a little while I had given me what I was to declare and ever since I have remained not knowing to day what I was to do to morrow Col. Brigs What was the Promise thou had'st given Iames. That God would be with me which promise I finde made good every day Col. Brigs I never heard such a call as this is in our time James I believe thee Just Pears Is Christ in thee James I witness him in me and if I should deny him before men he would deny me before my Father which is in heaven Just Pears Spiritual you mean Iam. Yea Spiritual Just Pears By faith or how Jam. By Faith Just Pears What difference then between the Ministers and you Jam. The Ministers affirm Christ to be in heaven with a Carnal body but I with a Spiritual body Just Pears Which of the Ministers say Christ is in heaven with a Carnal body Iam. The Minister so called of Kirkby-Steven Priest Higginson stood up and affirmed it again openly before all the Court. Iames. If Christ be in heaven with a Carnal body and the Saints with a Spiritual body it is not proportionable neither was that a carnal body which appeared among the Disciples the doors being shut and appeared in divers shapes Quest Was Christ man or no Iames. Yea he was and took upon him the seed of Abraham and was real flesh and bone but is a Mystery not known to the carnal man for he is begotten of the immortal seed and those that know him know him to be Spiritual for it was the Word that became flesh and dwelt amongst us and if he had not been Spiritual he had not wrought my Redemption Just Pears Is Christ in thee as man Iames. Christ filleth all places and is not divided separate God and man and he is no more Christ Just Pears If we stand to dispute these things we should have the Ministers James Perceiving Priest Higginson offended because he had told of his saying that Christ was in heaven with a carnal body James said Friend I had not accused thee had I not been asked what was the difference between the Ministers and me for I am not come to accuse any for I am against accusations Col. Brigs Wast thou not of a Kirk about Sawrby James I was a member of an Independant Church at Weedchurch Col. Brigs Wast thou not excommunicated for thy blasphemous Opinions James I know not what they have done since I came forth but before I was not to my knowledge Col. Brigs called of Mr. Coale saying Did you ere hear such a call as this did you hear it Coale Yea I heard part of it Col. Brigs Didst not thou write a paper wherein was mentioned that if thou thinkest to be saved by that Christ which dyed at Jerusalem thou art deceived James If I cannot witness Christ nearer then Jerusalem I shall have no benefit by him but I owne no other Christ but that who witnessed a good confession before Pontius Pilate which Christ I witness suffering in me now Col. Brigs Wilt thou deny thy hand James I will not deny my hand if I may see it and I desire that I may have so much favour that that paper may be kept as an evidence either with or against me A large Petition being read wherein was something against quaking and trembling Just Pears How comes it to pass that people quaks and tremble James The Scriptures witness the same condition in the Saints formerly as David Daniel Habakkuk and divers others Just Pears Did they fall down James Yea some of them did so Coale David said all his bones were broken but they were whole James So are these now Coal Moses trembled for he saw the face of God and all Israel James Did all Israel see the face of God that crosseth the Scriptures Coale They saw his glory I shall see the Lord with these eyes putting his fingers to his eyes James They must first be made spiritual he cannot be seen with carnal eyes for he is a Spirit and no flesh can see God and live Coale That light by which I am justified is a created light James That light by which I am justified is not a created light Coale That is true Just Pears To the Word What say'st thou to the Scriptures are they the Word of God Jam. They are a true Declaration of the Word that was in them who spoke them forth Higginson Is there not a written Word Jam. Where readest thou in thy Scriptures of a written word The word is spiritual not seen with carnal eyes but as for the Scriptures they are true and I witness them true in measure fulfilled in me as far as I am grown up Just Pears Why dost thou disturb the Ministers in their publick worships Jam. I have not disturbed them in their publick worships Just Pears Why dost thou speak against Tythes which are allowed by the States Iam. I meddle not with the States I speak against them that are hirelings as they are hirelings those that were sent of Christ never took Tythes nor ever sued any for wages Just Pears Dost thou think we are so beggerly as the Heathens that we cannot afford our Ministers maintenance We give them it freely Iam. They are the Ministers of Christ who abide in the doctrine of Christ Just Pears But who shall judg how shall we know them Jam. By their fruits you shall know them they that abide not in the Doctrine of Christ make it appear they are not the Ministers of Christ Just Pears That is true Accusations against Jo Lawson by him answered THat Joh Lawson of Lancaster did affirme December the fourth 1652. Object That he was dead and rose againe Answ Thou art a witness against him that is risen