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A44833	An answer to a book called A just defence and vindication of Gospel-ministers, and Gospel-ordinances put forth by J.G. In which he pretends an answer to E.B.'s Tryal of the ministers, and other things against the Quakers. ...Given forth from him who desires the edification and satisfaction of all in the things appertaining to the Kingdom of God, Rich. Hubberthorn	Hubberthorn, Richard, 1628-1662.	1660 (1660)	Wing H3217; ESTC R219971	13,602	16

never so wicked yet because they are merry in their wickedness they may s●ng lyes in the Name of the Lord by thy Argument be Justified as men doing onely that which God had commanded them And again thou maist read in Scripture Joel 1. 5. that such wicked men and drunkards were called to weep and bowl for their misery was coming upon them so the Prophet did not call them to sing Davids Psalms because they were merry in their wickednesse as thou hast done and again thou may read in Amos. 8. 3. That the songs of the Temple shall be turned into bowling and these wicked men in the Temple were Merry and by thy argument might sing Psalmes or spirituall Songs but the Prophet saith instead of singing they must bowl and come to bitter Lamentation praise is not comely in the mouth of Fooles as the wise man saith who is taught of God but the mouth of a Fool poureth forth his folly and the instruction of Fools is folly Pro. 16. 22. And this Script●●●e we se fulfilled in thee for thy instructing of Fooles and wicked men because they are merry in their wickednesse they may sing Psalmes as a Command from God and herein I have answer'd a fool according to his foly least he should be wise in his own conceit and although David calleth all Gods host and all living things made and created to praise the Lord the Sun Moon and Stars the Heavens and the Waters the Earth the Dragons and the Deeps Fire Haile Snow and Vapor Stormes and Wind fulfilling his word Mountains and Hills and fruitfull Trees all Beasts Cattle Creeping things and flying Fowles Kings of the earth and all People c. And now as David was in the Covenant he saw the Creatures as they stood in their Covenant uncorrupted and so in a fit capacity to praise the Lord only man degenerated and unrestored again into the Covenant he saw it was not comely for him to praise nor to pray nor to take Gods words in his mouth nor to speak of his Statutes so far from Justifying thy Argument that wicked men because they are merry therefore may sing Psalmes but when the Priests or people takes notice of thy book and what Logick thou hast learned to jutify the wicked in their Singing as well as the godly and how thou hast shamed both thy self and them with such foolish confusion and University Logick its like they will set thee no more awork to defend and vindicate them with such weapons Again page 89. thou saist that it is said by the Prophet prov. 21. 4. that the ploughing of the Ploughman is sinn Answ. Here thou hast belyed the Prophet and perverted his words as thou hast done the Quakers for the Prophers words is these an high look and a proud heart and the ploughing of the wicked is sin but he doth not say that the ploughing of the Ploughman is sin But who can escape the envy of slandrous tongues which accounteth lying no sin if thereby they can accomplish their own wicked ends but the truth hath found thee out and made thee manifest and the Priests had better a wanted thy defence then to be so shamed by it as they will be unless they deny both thee and it Again in the same page thou saist to hear read pray sing psalmes and giving of thanks they are works morally good being Commanded by the Lord but the person doing them being not justified they are not good to him for whatsoever is not of Faith is sin Answ. This is another piece of confusion and charging of God foolishly and falsly to say that the Lord commands those things to be done and those he commands to do them in doing of which it is not good to them but sin Where hast thou learned or where dost thou read of such a doctrine that wicked men are commanded of God to do such things which in doing is not good to them but sin Is God or Christ then the Minister of sin or commands a man to conmit sin Is not this Blasphemy Error in the highest degree And how daest thou speak of God or of his Commands or of his Obedience seeing thou thus Blasphems him in his Worship but this shall remain as a Testimony against thee many other lyes and abominations hast thou spoken against us and against God and his Truth a few of which is sufficient to make thee manifest In page 107. thou saist our Quaking fits many are of opinion that they are diabolicall by a kind of witcheraft and said thou hast heard strange relations of Enchanted Ribbons and giving drink after c. Answ. Upon the same account many was of opinion that Christ had a Devill and was a Deceiver and that the Apostles were Ring-leaders of Sects Heresyes and such strange relations might have been heard concerning the Apostles in their dayes and it seemes to thee that such reports is sufficient proofe but this is contrary to what thou hast said in an other place that thou wouldst speake nothing but according to what was written in the Scriptures And whereas thou tells of Enchanted Ribbons Is there some Ribbons that are enchanted it may be thou meaneth enchanting Ribbons but if so where didst thou ever know such a thing and for proofe thou names Gilpin and Toldervyes books which neither of them doth relate such a thing so that it is thy enmity wickednesse for there was never any such thing among the Quakers as giving Ribbans and drink after but that charge thou might haue laid upon the Priests and their Defenders for there are the most ribbons used justified till in pride they are become the Servants of the Devill and there is the giving of drink one to another untill they be enflamed and made unsensible of God and of his fear by which they are enchanted and bewitched that they doe not obey the Gospell but are given up to their owne hearts Lusts and thereby are become the Servants of sin and so free from righteousnesse Lastly not only we have been falsly accused in these and many other things by thee but even the spirit of God which is the Fountain of cleannesse is by thee charged and accused to be corrupt an defiled page 33. by passing through mans corrupt nature thou saist becomes defiled Answ. Is not this a sin against the holy Ghost which shall never be forgiven to charge the spirit to be corrupt and defiled And in this thou also chargeth both the Father and the Son to be corrupt defiled for they are one so that if one of them be corrupt the other is corrupt also and as the spirit is in the Saints so is the Father in them and the Son the hope of their glory and none of them are defiled by mans corrupt nature But there is that in man by which that which corrupteth his nature is wrought out so that man is made clean and undefiled by the spirit and that spirit is not made corrupt and defiled by Man for that is contrary to the Scripture to say that by mans nature the spirit is defiled but to say that by the spirit mans nature is cleansed and sanctified this is according to the Scripture but it is the work of Sathan and his Messengers to Blasphem God in his Temple and so account his spirit by which he leadeth into all truth an unholy thing and so thou art of the number of them which account the blood and Spirit of the Covenant an unholy thing and we seeing and knowing these things as concerning our selves we are satisfied because the Servant is not abo●e his Master for if the Master be called Belzebub and the spirit a defiled or corrupt thing well may wee be called Deceivers although we be true and falsly accused with all manner of evil according to our Masters words and these things we should bear in patience and silence as to our selves but as in respect unto others we are constrained by the uncorrupted and undefiled Spirit of the Lord to testifie to the world that their deeds are evil and to manifest the workings of Sathan in the Mystery of Iniquity which now already worketh in many justifying the wicked and condemning the Just which is abomination to the Lord which his Spirit will not bear unreproved and not onely the Just men are condemned and falsly accused but also the Just undefiled Eternal and unerring Spirit is accused by him who makes a defence for the Priests in their unrighteous Practices and Wages so by the plain Evidence and Demonstration of Truth he being made manifest to be an Enemy to God and by his wicked works and words I do Judge him not worthy of much more Answer to his Book and also I do Judge him not able to prove any of the false Accusations charged in it against us some of which is herein returned unto him again which when he doth but really weigh it and consider it may be he will sit down in silence and wait if there may be hope of his forgiveness for this not onely ignorance but wilfulness charging us the Spirit of God and his people with that of which they were never guilty for we are in the Truth unto which every tongue shall confess and by which every Opposer shall become silent before the Lord and in the Spirit of this Truth do we desire not the Di●●ruction but the Repentance and Forgiveness of our Enemies And those that do abuse us and wrong us ignorantly their sins will be sooner blotted out then those who wilfully have set their hearts and tongues to work wickedness for they shall receive the greater condemnation The knowledge and life of truth is that we desire all people may come into that by it the power of the wicked one may be taken away which so furiously worketh in the hearts of those which receives not the Truth in the love of it but brings forth floods of enmity bitterness against the Lambs of Christ but the love of God which thinketh no evil neither doth any unto another is that which when it is felt obeyed in all will dry up those floods from off the face of the Earth that there may be a place of Rest for the Redeemed and Elect Seed who onely hath the Lord and his light for their habitation and the Sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God for their Armour and Defence THE END

we know also that you must fulfil your measure of Iniquity and that all manner of evil must be spoken against us falsly and so we are satisfied because we suffer not for evill doing but for well doing Again page 61. Thou chargest us not to obey the commands of Christ but do teach men to break his commands twice in one page and again in the next page Answ. All which doth but prove and manifest thy unbridled tongue under which is the poyson of Aspes but if thou or any other could in meeknesse and simplicity prove that wee have either broken any of his Commands or taught others to break them then we would be convinced and thou should be counted a reprover and instructer in righteousnesse but on the contrary we see that bitternesse and a lying spirit hath possessed thee and that thou only invents and Imagines false things to fil up thy book which we were never guilty of which never any sober man that had but the parts of a man would ever lay to our charge seeing that both our principles and practices witnesseth to the contrary Again to make thy Vollume large in page 82. thou brings the same lyes over again charging us to say That we are more fuller of the Spirit then the Apostles and of more knowledge and stronger in Faith then the Apostles Which Affirmation is thy own and not ours and therefore is returned back to be Condemned where it did arise In page 83. thou saist The Quakers will have no Order and page 84. thou saist We are wise in our own conceit and that we think our selves wiser than Christ or his Apostles or Churches All which is but multiplying lyes and so not worth much speaking unto but onely that People may see how thou hast run out thy self till thou hast no order over thy tongue nor over thy Pen which hast been so long time as above half a year in adding lye unto lye to make a Defence for the Priests and so it appears that Truth will not defend them and thy Defence of lyes will not long defend them for God will sweep away the refuge of lyes and he that loveth and telleth a lye as thou hast done hath no part in the Kingdom of God In page 94. thou accusest Sara Blackborow as concerning a Woman speaking in the Church as if she had said that the flesh was the Woman from which thou concludes That then the flesh must be married to Christ and so would make up absurdities from thy own words Answ. This is thy Ordinary way of proving Errour first to affirm a lye of thy own making charging it upon another and then draw a Conclusion Answering this lye but Sara Blackborow nor any other of the Quakers have ever said that the flesh was the Woman but that which Sara Blackborow said was That the flesh was to be silent and that which spoke in thee was that which was silly and was ever learning but when any doth Pray or Prophesie whether man or woman and speak forth that which God hath made manifest that is The Spirit of the Father in both and is not to be quenched for there is neither male nor female but all is one in Christ and in the Spirit from which Preaching and Prophesying proceeds and the Promise is that daughters as well as sons shall Prophesie And in the Church at Corinth they might all Prophesie one by one that all might hear and all might be edified but thou saist Those women that did Prophesie it was not in the Church Where then did they Prophesie if not in the Church Or what was the Church For it is written 1 Thes. 1. 1. That the Church is in God And where must a woman be when she Prayes or Prophesies if not in the Church which is in God And where was it that Philips four Daughters prophesied whether in the Church or out of it And where was it that that Priscilla did Minister whether in the Church or out of it And Pheba a servant of the Church whether she might not Pray nor Prophesie in it And Priscilla who was a helper of Paul in Christ and laboured with him in the Gospel Rom. 16. Might not Pray or Prophesie in the Church But now to speak the Truth in plainness to thee that which thou Cavel'st against Is not the woman nor the man simply considered But it is the Spirit speaking in either which thou cannot bear for where the Spirit of the Father speaks in man or woman thou sets thy self against it to oppose it And thou saist Susan Bond said Christ was the Husband and of him they were to be taught and thou saist Sara Blackborow did like the Answer well Answ. Who could like it ill Was not that a good Answer And thou thy self must own Christ to be thy Teacher and learn of him before ever God will make use of thee in his service or work though the Priests may make use of thee for their Defender Again page 99. thou saist We deny that any should either Rule in the Church or have any Honour Answ. No we do not deny the Head of the Church which is Christ to Rule and to have all the honour but we deny any Priest to bear Rule by his means or to receive the Honour due unto Christ for we see they are such as seek Honour of one another and not the Honour which belongs to God onely Now whereas thou goes about to Vindicate That wicked men may sing Psalmes and to prove it makes this Argument If any be merry let him sing Psalms Now wicked men are merry as well as godly though they haue no true cause Ergo page 87. Answ. This Logick doth but prove thy own ignorance and darknesse not the thing intended by thee as we shall shew but first to Answer thee with thy own contradiction Dost thou not say in the next words before this Argument that the chief ground or cause is the Moral duty lying upon all men by the commandment of God Now if wicked men do sing Psalmes by the commandment of God do they do it without a true cause Is not the Commandment of God a true cause of any action to them which are commanded by him But in this thou art but building again that which thou hast destroyed and so makes thy self a transgressor and so let thy own confusion correct thee In the same page thou sayst Thou wilt make good what thou hast written by Scripture Come then here we shall try thee Where in the Scripture dost thou prove that wicked men may be merry and sing Psalmes though they have no true cause but on the contrary hast thou not read in the Scriptures Ps. 69. That David was the song of the drunkards and if drunkards now in Taverns and Ale-houses say sing I am not puft in mind I have no scornful eye and say That as a weaned child they have behaved themselves by thy Argument if they be