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A40088 A second defence of the propositions by which the doctrine of the Holy Trinity is so explained according to the ancient fathers, as to speak it not contradictory to natural reason : in answer to a Socinian manuscript, in a letter to a friend : together, with a third defence of those propositions, in answer to the newly published reflexions, contained in a pamphlet, entituled, A letter to the reverend clergy of both universities / both by the author of those propositions. Fowler, Edward, 1632-1714. 1695 (1695) Wing F1715; ESTC R6837 47,125 74

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the_o father_n this_o be_v affirm_v in_o that_o creed_n which_o be_v call_v the_o nicene_n and_o in_o that_o which_o false_o bear_v the_o name_n of_o athanasius_n though_o with_o this_o difference_n that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v assert_v in_o they_o to_o be_v from_o the_o son_n as_o well_o as_o from_o the_o father_n wherein_o the_o greek_a church_n differ_v from_o the_o latin_n 8._o it_o be_v therefore_o a_o flat_a contradiction_n to_o say_v that_o the_o second_o and_o three_o person_n be_v self_n existent_a 9_o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v alike_o contradiction_n to_o affirm_v they_o to_o be_v being_n absolute_o perfect_a in_o reference_n to_o their_o manner_n of_o existence_n and_o to_o say_v that_o they_o have_v the_o perfection_n of_o absolute_a independence_n and_o of_o be_v the_o first_o original_n of_o all_o thing_n 10._o since_o the_o father_n alone_o be_v a_o be_v of_o the_o most_o absolute_a perfection_n he_o have_v those_o perfection_n which_o the_o other_o two_o person_n 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substance_n shall_v emane_n from_o a_o infinite_a substance_n or_o to_o use_v the_o scripture-phrase_n be_v beget_v by_o it_o that_o if_o any_o be_v can_n emane_n or_o be_v beget_v by_o a_o infinite_a substance_n it_o must_v be_v infinite_a too_o for_o as_o athanasius_n say_v ●_o it_o be_v impossible_a that_o that_o which_o be_v beget_v shall_v be_v a_o different_a essence_n from_o that_o which_o beget_v the_o reader_n may_v see_v what_o be_v far_o say_v of_o emanation_n in_o 2d_o defence_n p._n 26._o i_o have_v abundant_o too_o much_o business_n lie_v now_o upon_o my_o hand_n to_o find_v leisure_n for_o so_o close_a a_o consideration_n of_o all_o that_o this_o gentleman_n have_v reflect_v on_o the_o 28._o proposition_n as_o possible_o i_o may_v apply_v myself_o to_o have_v i_o time_n to_o spare_v
to_o answer_v god_n decree_n be_v god_n himself_o sect._n 61._o he_o say_v what_o i_o further_o add_v be_v direct_a contradiction_n recite_v several_a more_o thing_n contain_v in_o my_o proposition_n and_o this_o be_v the_o whole_a of_o this_o section_n here_o be_v not_o one_o word_n of_o proof_n that_o any_o one_o of_o they_o be_v a_o contradiction_n and_o therefore_o i_o have_v nothing_o to_o add_v here_o sect._n 62._o he_o affirm_v 1._o that_o necessary_a existence_n from_o eternity_n be_v as_o great_a a_o perfection_n as_o self-existence_n but_o not_o to_o tell_v he_o that_o whatsoever_o do_v necessary_o exist_v must_v have_v be_v from_o eternity_n and_o therefore_o such_o a_o existence_n be_v never_o attribute_v to_o a_o creature_n i_o do_v absolute_o deny_v that_o necessary_a existence_n from_o another_o be_v as_o great_a a_o perfection_n as_o necessary_a existence_n from_o one_o self_n can_v our_o author_n in_o his_o cool_a thought_n imagine_v it_o be_v he_o say_v 2._o if_o the_o father_n have_v give_v existence_n to_o any_o be_v which_o he_o can_v take_v away_o he_o will_v cease_v to_o be_v almighty_a but_o i_o conceive_v that_o to_o suppose_v that_o the_o father_n can_v make_v a_o be_v to_o cease_v which_o have_v a_o necessary_a existence_n from_o he_o will_v be_v a_o contradiction_n supposal_n and_o that_o contradiction_n be_v object_n of_o no_o power_n can_v be_v object_n of_o divine_a power_n and_o that_o therefore_o the_o almightiness_n thereof_o consist_v in_o a_o ability_n to_o do_v whatsoever_o imply_v not_o a_o contradiction_n or_o that_o power_n can_v do_v and_o so_o do_v our_o author_n conceive_v too_o he_o say_v 3._o that_o self_n existence_n separate_a from_o those_o power_n which_o can_v only_o belong_v to_o a_o self-existent_a be_v be_v no_o perfection_n but_o i_o ask_v he_o how_o self-existence_n can_v be_v separate_v from_o those_o power_n and_o if_o it_o can_v what_o do_v this_o say_n signify_v and_o it_o be_v certain_a it_o can_v but_o if_o he_o mean_v abstract_v by_o separate_a as_o he_o use_v a_o very_a improper_a word_n to_o express_v his_o thought_n by_o i_o deny_v that_o the_o notion_n of_o self-existence_n abstract_v from_o all_o other_o consideration_n whatsoever_o imply_v no_o persection_n and_o i_o have_v as_o much_o liberty_n to_o contradict_v he_o without_o give_v my_o reason_n as_o he_o have_v to_o affirm_v this_o without_o give_v his_o but_o indeed_o this_o denial_n of_o i_o need_v no_o reason_n for_o that_o self-existence_n be_v as_o such_o a_o perfection_n be_v self-evident_a or_o i_o know_v not_o what_o be_v so_o but_o be_v it_o not_o that_o i_o find_v he_o in_o one_o of_o these_o section_n assert_v creation_n out_o of_o nothing_o this_o passage_n will_v lead_v i_o to_o a_o very_a shrewd_a suspicion_n that_o he_o be_v of_o wolzogenius_n his_o mind_n and_o some_o other_o of_o his_o brethren_n that_o god_n be_v not_o the_o only_a self-existent_a be_v but_o that_o the_o rude_a chaos_n be_v and_o therefore_o all_o matter_n now_o be_v self-existent_a too_o and_o if_o they_o can_v demonstrate_v this_o to_o i_o i_o confess_v i_o shall_v do_v what_o lie_v in_o i_o to_o think_v self-existence_n to_o be_v no_o perfection_n at_o all_o in_o spite_n of_o its_o be_v self-evident_a that_o it_o be_v a_o great_a perfection_n if_o not_o the_o great_a 4._o he_o say_v that_o if_o the_o person_n have_v the_o some_o unlimited_a perfection_n but_o their_o manner_n of_o get_v they_o be_v different_a that_o will_v not_o cause_v any_o inequality_n between_o they_o but_o i_o say_v it_o will_v that_o be_v in_o reference_n to_o their_o manner_n of_o existence_n though_o not_o in_o reference_n to_o their_o mere_a essence_n what_o follow_v be_v but_o dilate_v on_o the_o same_o thing_n and_o repeat_v what_o have_v be_v already_o consider_v sect._n 63._o he_o ask_v 1._o how_o the_o father_n can_v be_v great_a than_o the_o son_n and_o h._n spirit_n and_o be_v the_o only_a good_a when_o they_o have_v the_o same_o unlimited_a power_n and_o goodness_n i_o answer_v they_o have_v a_o unlimited_a power_n but_o not_o the_o same_o unlimited_a power_n with_o the_o father_n ad_fw-la extrà_fw-la or_o in_o relation_n to_o the_o creation_n their_o power_n be_v unlimited_a but_o no_o body_n will_v say_v that_o ad_fw-la intrà_fw-la it_o be_v the_o same_o with_o the_o father_n except_o he_o can_v believe_v that_o the_o son_n can_v beget_v the_o father_n as_o the_o father_n have_v beget_v the_o son_n and_o as_o to_o the_o father_n be_v call_v by_o our_o saviour_n the_o only_a good_a in_o that_o he_o say_v there_o be_v none_o good_a but_o god_n i_o have_v say_v in_o my_o proposition_n with_o grotius_n and_o other_o that_o that_o phrase_n must_v needs_o signify_v the_o only_a original_a good_a or_o the_o only_a fountain_n of_o goodness_n which_o the_o father_n may_v be_v and_o yet_o not_o the_o only_a perfectly_n good_n and_o i_o think_v that_o the_o perfection_n of_o self-existence_n belong_v to_o the_o father_n alone_o and_o therefore_o those_o perfection_n too_o which_o do_v necessary_o suppose_v self-existence_n the_o father_n may_v most_o true_o be_v say_v to_o be_v great_a than_o the_o son_n and_o h._n spirit_n although_o all_o the_o perfection_n of_o these_o person_n be_v unlimited_a 2._o he_o ask_v what_o great_a absurdity_n there_o can_v be_v than_o that_o being_n which_o have_v infinite_a unlimited_a perfection_n shall_v want_v some_o perfection_n i_o answer_v that_o indeed_o there_o can_v be_v a_o great_a absurdity_n than_o to_o say_v that_o a_o be_v which_o have_v a_o infinite_a number_n of_o unlimited_a perfection_n can_v want_v some_o this_o will_v be_v a_o ab'urdity_n with_o a_o vengeance_n but_o i_o doubt_v i_o be_o not_o capable_a of_o understanding_n where_o lie_v the_o absurdity_n of_o assert_v that_o a_o be_v which_o have_v not_o the_o perfection_n of_o self-existence_n and_o those_o that_o suppose_v it_o may_v notwithstanding_o have_v in_o as_o high_a a_o degree_n as_o can_v be_v those_o perfection_n which_o they_o have_v 3._o he_o say_v that_o a_o be_v can_v be_v partly_o infinite_a and_o partly_o finite_a and_o so_o he_o run_v on_o upon_o infinite_a infinite_a which_o he_o all_o along_o do_v and_o the_o reason_n of_o it_o be_v obvious_a enough_o viz._n because_o it_o be_v a_o rare_a amuse_v confound_a word_n for_o my_o brain_n and_o the_o brain_n of_o his_o reader_n there_o be_v not_o such_o another_o to_o be_v meet_v with_o for_o the_o purpose_n but_o infinity_o be_v not_o a_o thing_n to_o be_v make_v so_o bold_a with_o or_o talk_v of_o with_o such_o freedom_n and_o confidence_n as_o he_o still_o do_v as_o if_o it_o be_v a_o very_a familiar_a matter_n but_o i_o say_v again_o it_o be_v no_o such_o monstrous_a business_n to_o imagine_v that_o a_o be_v which_o have_v not_o every_o perfection_n may_v have_v those_o it_o be_v possess_v of_o in_o the_o high_a degree_n if_o i_o care_v to_o talk_v thing_n which_o i_o understand_v nothing_o of_o i_o can_v talk_v too_o of_o infinity_o and_o say_v that_o there_o be_v several_a sort_n of_o infinity_o that_o there_o be_v infinity_o of_o substance_n and_o infinity_o of_o quantity_n and_o infinity_o of_o duration_n and_o infinity_o of_o space_n and_o god_n know_v how_o many_o more_o infinity_n and_o can_v show_v that_o there_o be_v no_o absurdity_n in_o say_v that_o all_o these_o infinity_n do_v not_o necessary_o belong_v to_o every_o one_o of_o these_o and_o i_o shall_v get_v great_a reputation_n among_o wise_a man_n for_o my_o pain_n shall_v they_o catch_v i_o thus_o employ_v my_o tongue_n or_o pen._n but_o now_o i_o think_v better_o of_o it_o i_o find_v i_o be_o not_o quite_o so_o ignorant_a as_o i_o think_v i_o be_v for_o i_o can_v tell_v this_o gentleman_n that_o a_o be_v can_v be_v partly_o infinite_a and_o partly_o not_o since_o i_o have_v learn_v that_o angel_n and_o humane_a soul_n be_v so_o that_o be_v with_o respect_n to_o the_o infinity_o of_o duration_n they_o be_v infinite_a à_fw-la parte_fw-la post_fw-la though_o not_o à_fw-la parte_fw-la antè_fw-la and_o what_o a_o rare_a notion_n be_v this_o sect._n 64._o as_o to_o the_o little_a that_o be_v here_o say_v viz._n upon_o the_o odious_a topick_n of_o tritheism_n i_o refer_v he_o to_o my_o reply_n to_o the_o considerator_n my_o much_o more_o ingenuous_a adversary_n which_o i_o presume_v he_o have_v read_v though_o he_o take_v no_o notice_n of_o it_o sect._n 65._o here_o be_v nothing_o to_o be_v speak_v to_o without_o repetition_n and_o i_o want_v time_n to_o make_v they_o and_o he_o be_v not_o in_o such_o want_n of_o sense_n as_o to_o need_v they_o sect._n 66._o here_o he_o misrepresent_v i_o and_o argue_v upon_o his_o misrepresentation_n see_v prop._n 13_o sect._n 67._o consider_v what_o i_o have_v say_v to_o the_o considerator_n and_o
his_o humane_a that_o text_n god_n be_v manifest_v in_o the_o flesh_n do_v seem_v so_o to_o do_v but_o i_o will_v despair_v of_o understanding_n much_o of_o scripture_n if_o several_a of_o the_o forecited_a text_n do_v not_o much_o more_o than_o seem_v to_o do_v it_o but_o i_o have_v slip_v one_o passage_n which_o it_o be_v convenient_a to_o take_v some_o notice_n of_o viz._n but_o it_o may_v be_v say_v that_o all_o power_n in_o heaven_n and_o earth_n be_v commit_v to_o christ._n and_o he_o answer_v tes_fw-gr to_o fit_v he_o to_o be_v the_o great_a minister_n by_o who_o god_n will_v judge_v the_o world_n i_o will_v interrupt_v he_o but_o while_o i_o tell_v he_o i_o wonder_v it_o shall_v not_o seem_v to_o he_o and_o every_o man_n not_o only_o strange_a but_o impossible_a that_o a_o mere_a man_n though_o in_o a_o extraordinary_a manner_n conceive_v shall_v be_v a_o subject_a capable_a of_o receive_v all_o power_n in_o heaven_n and_o earth_n and_o of_o judge_v the_o world_n both_o man_n 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his_o wife_n and_o child_n the_o spirit_n of_o burn_v he_o and_o if_o anger_n can_v do_v it_o send_v he_o to_o the_o devil_n and_o instead_o of_o send_v i_o to_o the_o devil_n he_o make_v a_o very_a devil_n of_o i_o which_o be_v the_o worse_a punishment_n of_o the_o two_o as_o mighty_a good_a as_o he_o have_v think_v i_o sometime_o when_o he_o and_o i_o have_v have_v the_o good_a luck_n to_o jump_v in_o our_o notion_n but_o why_o must_v i_o be_v such_o a_o devilish_a persecutor_n mere_o for_o one_o word_n can_v this_o intolerable_a bear_v a_o more_o merciful_a interpretation_n i_o be_v very_o unlucky_a in_o light_v upon_o this_o epithet_n if_o it_o can_v for_o time_n have_v be_v when_o i_o can_v have_v be_v a_o persecutor_n but_o will_v not_o and_o that_o be_v more_o than_o the_o socinian_o can_v say_v nor_o have_v i_o since_o ever_o change_v my_o mind_n but_o i_o be_o old_a enough_o to_o be_v assure_v from_o my_o own_o observation_n that_o there_o be_v no_o be_v secure_a of_o any_o 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