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A27135 A short discovery of the state of man before the fall, in the fall, and out of the fall againe : wherein is also laid open the ignorance and error of Robert Hall, preacher at Colebrooke in Buckinghamshire, and Edmund Board, of the same town, a professor ... / by W.B. Bayly, William, d. 1675. 1659 (1659) Wing B1536; ESTC R29031 10,345 9

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a virgin in due time and is yet hid to and in such as walk in darknesse and from all transgressors who love the evill and darkness rather then the light Now when Moses and Israell was in the wildernesse and when they sinned in the wildernesse there was a rock which followed them marke some thing that 's hard to ●hem that sinneth and the Apostle said the rocke which followed them was Christ consider this well with a single eye he that was given for a leader and commander and goes before his own sheepe followeth them that sinned read within and he is the ●ight which lighteth every man that cometh into the world which is to lead up to God ●gaine out of the world to the beginning before the transgression or hills was So that this one seed which was a rocke in Moses dayes to them that sinned and cal●ed a hard master by the sloathfull hath in processe of time many names though one ●ower in nature as he was called the word a child a son a stone the elect the foundation the doore the vine the lambe of God and slain from the foundation of the world and all that is in the world is the lust of the flesh the lust of the eye and the pride of ●ife 1 John 2 16 and he is called the lion of the tribe of Judah the saviour the redeemer the mediatour the way the truth the life the seed the wonderfull counsellour ●he mighty God the prince of peace the immanuell God with us the Messiah and Jesus which is called Christ all these names and more is given to the one seed now must people be pooring and imagining and contending about names letters and words which was given since the fall since transgression or be brought to the seed the word which was in the beginning the substance which was before the names and ends the names and the letters and the words and the imaginations strivings and contending about words to no profit and before transgression was who is the expresse image of the invisible God who now is come a light into the world and preacheth himselfe the light of the world John 8 12 and his witnesse declares him to be the true light that lighteth every man which cometh into the world full of grace and truth John 1 9 14. Now Reader if the blessed eye in thee be open and thou stand single in it thou wilt see some●hing in what I have written for the simple sake and for the truth sake and if thou can stand still and but see the truth then wilt thou see Robert Hal● teacher at Colebrooke and Edmund Board in blindnesse and error and with a lye in their right hand who said man in his first ●●ate before transgression who was the son of God in the image of God and bless●d of God ●ad not the holy spirit nor was in Christ but bare the earthly image and that the breath of ●●fe which God breathed into man was a created thing let the sober minded with Gods wit●esse the light in them judge whether that which made living be the created thing or that which was made living by it or whether a created thing can create and make living or whether that life in which we live move and have our being be the created or the creator let understanding judge Acts 17 28 Deut 30 20 Now this was the great error which Robert Hall charged against me viz. that I went to bring people from Christ to that state which Adam was in before the fall marke and consider and see what state Adam was in before the fall before transgression that was his fall and then see wherein I have erred if I had brought all people upon earth into that state or wherein I brings any from Christ as he hath said Adam before the fall was without sin before the fall was in the image of God in his state before the fall had dominion over the world and was the son of God in the likenesse of God before the fall was blessed of God Gen 1 Now if I had could or doe bring people to this state to be without sin to be in the image of God to be the sons of God to have dominion over the world to be blessed of God wherein is my error or what have I erred from herein or what are they erred from which are brought into this state let truth judge Now if any shall say we are erred from Christ or from God in Christ or from the spirit or from the doctrine of Christ I answer nay its he that transgresseth that abideth not in the doctrine of Christ and such hath not God 2 John 1 9 and the father son and spirit ar● one and Christ is the first and the last without sin before sin and transgression was the desire of all nations the image and son of God glorified with the father before the foundation of the world to him and into him is our desire that people should come in which seed only the blessing is Gen 22 18 Gal 3 16 1 John 3 9 which all in transgression be erred from Then it was askt Robert Hall what he went to bring people unto by his preaching He answered he went to bring them from that state marke that Now if any people were come into that state to be without sin in the image of God the sonnes of God having dominion over the world and blessed of God as at the first read Isa 1 25 26 is it no● the worke of the divell of his ministers and messengers and angells to bring them out o● this state is not this the same worke which the divell the old serpent did when he brough● man from that state in which he was without sin and blessed of God at the first when h● transgressed and was driven out of paradice peace rest joy into the earth where he becam● earthly unsavoury unrighteous and unfruitfull to God and was it a work of the serpent then to bring from that state which God blessed whose blessing unchangeably and promises are 〈◊〉 the seed only and in the seed yea and amen 2 Cor 1 20 And is it not now the work of the divell the old serpent in Robert Hall and the rest of h●● minde to bring people from that state which of God is blessed let them that fear God judg● and then see whose messenger and minister he is and whose will and work he doth and if he 〈◊〉 found doing the same work which the divell did when he brought man from his blessed sta●● into transgression then whether the son of God the light of the world will not destroy h●● work seeing for this purpose he was manifested even to destroy the works of the dive●● 1 Joh 3 8 and whether he will not 〈…〉 … ●her the wages of sin be not death and whether it be not a sin to bring people into sin from ●hat state which God doth blesse yea or nay and whether
SHORT DISCOVERY OF THE STATE of MAN Before The fall in the fall and out of the fall againe wherein is also laid open the ignorance and error of Robert Hall Preacher at Colebrooke in Buckingham-shire and Edmund Board of the same Town a Professor who are contentious obeying not the truth which they be erred from but do oppose themselves against it as may be seen with the single eye in that which followeth by W B The Lord frustrateth the tokens of the lyars and maketh diviners mad he turneth wise men backward and maketh their knowledge foolish Isa 44 25 But the secrets of the Lord are with them that feare him Psa 25 14 IN the 4th Moneth 59 At a meeting in Colebrooke as I was moved of the Lord I spake these words verily verily I say unto you except a man be born again he can in no wise enter into the Kingdome of God and I also declared that God made man in his image after his likenesse having dominion and was blessed of God Gen 1 26 28 also that this state was lost from Adam in which he was blessed ●y reason of sin and transgression which brought the curse marke man was made ●n the image of God and in that state was blessed here was the first word man in the ●mage of God that ever I read of in Scripture Let us make man in our image after ●ur likenesse and let him have dominion Gen 1 26 man in the image of God like God upright having dominion blessed of God marke this state was lost and erred from ●y transgression transgression lost the dominion shuts out of the kingdome therefore ex●ept a man be born again he cannot enter into the kingdome or dominion of Gods nor ●e blessed of God nor be in the likenesse or image of God these things I did and doe still ●ffirme and testifie and that as Adam lost the dominion the peace and the blessing of ●od goeing from God into transgression so must all that ever enter the kingdome again which is righteousness peace and joy in the holy spirit come to the light which Christ ●esus hath enlightened them withall which shewes them sin and believe in it and ●●ey it to be led out of transgression by it up to God again This is the work of the last ●dam to destroy the workes of the Divell to quicken up to God again and to bring again ●●●t which was driven away by transgression marke that Ezek 34 4 for it is your ●●iquities that have seperated between you and your God and your sins have hid his face from you Isa 59 3 4 for this purpose was the son of God manifested to destroy the workes of the Divell 1 John 3 8 marke to destroy that which the Divell hath wrought disobedience transgression all unrighteousnesse and sin this the Divell wrought the old Serpent when he led man out from God who is light into darknesse the thick cloud the seperation Isa 44 2● which must be broken down and destroyed by the power of God before fallen man can be reconciled to God again Now such were the things which these men Robert Hall and Edmund Board opposed saying my doctrine tended to no other thing then to bring people from Chri●t to be as the fir●t Adam was who said they was not in Chri●t neither had he the holy spirit said Robert Hall in his first state but was earthly And that the breath of life which God breathed into man whereby he became a living soule was a created thing these things was by them spoken before many people bringing the Apostles words in their dark mindes where he said the first man is of the earth earthy c. now the Scripture is true the first Adam was in two states who will deny it but I query whether the first state of the first man was earthly seeing he was made in the image of God in his likeness without sin upright and was blessed of God having dominion and peace with God I know the first Adam became earthy when drove from God by transgression into the earth after he had transgressed and was afraid of God when he saw his nakednesse and hid himselfe marke he had a selfe now to hide after transgression then 't was I heard thy voyce and was afraid here was a division and seperation I and thy twaine after transgression but not before marke that so here is the state of the whole world in transgression afraid of God drove from God in the earth hiding and covering selfe and loving and imbracing that which God will destroy Now these men granted and confessed that man in his first state had peace with God and was without sin in the image likenesse and dominion of God and was blessed of God but said Robert Hall he had not then the holy spirit and said Edmund Board he was not in Christ in that state now this is to be considered with a sober mind in the light Christ Jesus is called the image of God who was without sin 2 Cor. 4 4 and man was made in the image of God before sin and transgression was after the likenesse of God and had dominion and was blessed of God and saith the scripture Adam which was the son of God Luke 3 38 Then I thus query could Adam be in the image o● God without sin in the likenesse of God the son of God at peace with God and blessed of God and yet not have the holy spirit n●r be in Christ is not God holy and can any be in his image like him but such as are holy or be in peace with him but who are holy seeing the scripture saith there is no peace to the wicked saith my God Isa 57 21 and without holinesse no man shall see the Lord Heb 12 14 and be yee holy for I the Lor● your God am holy Levit 19 2. 1 Pet 1 16. can any man be the son of God or like God or blessed of God and not b● holy let the just answer or can any be holy like God i● the image of God without the holy spirit if thou say no none can be like God wh● is holy but such as are holy and that none can be holy without the holy spirit then whether man had not the holy spirit when he was in the image of God the sone of God in peace and blessed of God before sin and transgression was or can any be the sons of God at peace reconciled to God again without Christ and the holy spirit yea or nay or doe God speake peace to that which is n●t like him or is his blessing to two seeds or but to one Gal 3 16 yea or nay Now if any other shall say that man in his first state in the image of God before sin and transgression was when he was blessed of God had not then the holy spirit neither was he in Christ Then doe I query what and whose spirit was it which he had