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A rejoynder to Mr. Wills, his Vindiciæ wherein the antiquity for believers and novelty of infant baptism is further confirmed : as also his groundless appeal distinctly answer'd, and the forgeries and mistakes boasted of, still found to be his own : with an appeal to his conscience about the same / by H. Danvers.
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Danvers, Henry, d. 1687.
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baxter_n dr._n owen_n answer_v answer_v and_o dr._n taylor_n i_o say_v i_o have_v put_v down_o nothing_o but_o their_o own_o and_o what_o be_v congruous_a one_o thing_n answer_v proper_o and_o natural_o with_o another_o which_o if_o it_o do_v not_o we_o shall_v i_o presume_v have_v hear_v of_o and_o for_o what_o relate_v to_o himself_o which_o be_v the_o four_o i_o have_v do_v he_o no_o wrong_n the_o page_n mention_v by_o i_o viz._n p._n 36_o 38_o 101_o 131_o 132._o i_o have_v particular_o examine_v and_o desire_v the_o reader_n so_o to_o do_v and_o let_v he_o judge_v betwixt_o we_o whether_o he_o do_v not_o in_o those_o page_n compare_v again_o and_o again_o say_v that_o as_o there_o be_v no_o scripture_n express_o command_v so_o neither_o be_v there_o any_o scripture_n exclude_v infant_n from_o baptism_n nor_o any_o scripture_n that_o say_v there_o be_v no_o infant_n baptise_a each_o page_n i_o will_v have_v put_v down_o but_o that_o i_o will_v not_o burden_v the_o reader_n which_o 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only_o for_o infant_n baptism_n child_n 2._o about_o christen_v a_o dead_a child_n the_o second_o for_o say_v that_o a_o child_n that_o die_v unbaptise_v be_v take_v up_o and_o christen_v put_v in_o the_o margin_n a_o dead_a child_n christen_v the_o boy_n be_v not_o take_v up_o and_o baptise_a dead_a but_o after_o he_o come_v to_o life_n again_o he_o be_v baptise_a in_o the_o first_o place_n i_o conceive_v there_o be_v no_o untruth_n in_o my_o render_v the_o word_n be_v pverum_fw-la sine_fw-la baptismo_fw-la mortuum_fw-la resuscitarit_fw-mi ex_fw-la mortuis_fw-la &_o tandem_fw-la baptizarit_fw-la that_o a_o child_n that_o die_v unbaptise_v be_v take_v up_o and_o christen_v be_v not_o exclusive_a of_o the_o sense_n mr._n will_n will_v have_v it_o bear_v but_o it_o be_v the_o margin_n that_o say_v he_o dead_a child_n christen_v he_o main_o quarrel_n at_o which_o indeed_o be_v whole_o i_o and_o therefore_o my_o sense_n or_o explanation_n of_o my_o own_o word_n be_v to_o be_v receive_v 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