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A65838 The authority of the true ministry in baptizing with the spirit, and the idolatry of such men, as are doting about shadows and carnal ordinances, and their ignorance of the spirits baptism (of which, water baptism was but a figure) discovered : and herein is shewed, that water baptism is neither of necessity to salvation, nor yet is it now practiced either by authority from heaven, or by any New-Testament-law that is in force upon believers, seeing the substance, and the end of things abolished is come and enjoyed, wherein the types, shadows and fingers, are ended : being a short return to a book entituled, A reply to a scandalous paper, subscribed by one Samuel Bradley, a Baptist teacher, as concerning a dispute that was between some of the people called Quakers, and some Baptists in South-warke. Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723. 1660 (1660) Wing W1892; ESTC R19780 16,493 18

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THE AUTHORITY OF THE True Ministry In Baptizing with the SPIRIT and the IDOLATRY of such Men as are doting about Shadows and Carnal Ordinances and their Ignorance of the Sprits Baptism of which Water Baptism was but a figure discovered And herein is shewed That Water Baptism is neither of necessity to Salvation nor yet is it now Practiced either by Authority from Heaven or by any New-Testament-Law that is in force upon Believers seeing the Substance and the End of things abolished is come and enjoyed wherein the Types Shadows and Figures are ended Being a short Return to a Book Entituled A Reply to a Scandalous Paper subscribed by one Samuel Bradley a Baptist Teacher as concerning a dispute that was between some of the people called QVAKERS and some BAPTISTS in South-warke Act. 11. 15 16. And as I began to speak the Holy Ghost fell on them as on us at the beginning then remembred I the Word of the Lord how that he said John indeed Baptised with Water but Ye shall be Baptised with the Holy Ghost 1 Pet. 3. 21. The like Figure whereunto even Baptism doth also now save us not the putting away of the filth of the flesh but the Answer of a good Conscience towards God by the Resurrection of Jesus Christ Ephes. 4. 5. There is one Lord one Faith one Baptism LONDON Printed for Robert Wilson at the Sign of the Black-Spread-Eagle and Windmil in Martins l' Grand 1660. The AUTHORITY of the True MINISTRY In Baptising with the Spirit and the IDOLATYR of such men as are doting about Shadows and Carnal Ordinances c. SUrely the said Samuel Bradley hath had time sufficient to have studied and brought forth far more sound matter than he hath done in his pretended REPLY it being above one year and a half since the paper touching our dispute went forth when as his pretended REPLY to it came but lately abroad as to our hands and exceeding darkly as a false cover to his folly and Confusion which so long since was discovered and reproved by the Spirit of Truth in us and in this his pretended Reply hath he often Reproached and belyed us called QVAKERS even in a time in which the foggy mist is risen out of the pit to darken the Air and the Sun also if it were possible and the multitude of slanders and lyes is gone forth against us and among them is this S. B. and his work found which shall return back to perdition who hath sought to guild and smooth over his former cause as if he thought we had either forgotten his former folly that he vented at the dispute or else that he did not intend that his work should come forth to the Light to be tryed he sending it so hidenly in manuscript among his hearers Therefore note his matter as followeth and seriously read the Answer Samuel Bradley the Baptist to the Reader sayes these words viz. I must needs write my self less than the least of all Saints and altogether unworthy to engage in any work for Jehovah much more altogether unworthy to engage in a work so weighty and so such publique concernment as this is Answ. Then its evident that this S. B. is not in Gods work but in his own work he being altogether unworthy to engage in any work for JEHOVAH so note that what he hath done both in his opposing the people called QVAKERS and in his writing against them was not any work of JEHOVAH but of his own done in darkness and the enmity of the wicked one against JEHOVAH and his work And what profit can you that are the hearers of the said Samuel Bradley reap from him since he is altogether unworthy to engage in any work for JEHOVAH as also the sequel hereof will further discover and this S. B. professeth himself to be a poor labourer in the Vineyard of Christ and in the service of the Lord and thus hath he played the hypocrite and confounded himself for how can he be either a Labourer in the Vineyard of Christ or a Servant of the Lord when he is altogether unworthy to engage in any work for JEHOVAH So it s plainly manifest that he is one of them that runs the Lord hath not sent him and one of the false prophets that steal the words from their neighbours and say Thus saith the Lord when God hath not spoken to them But all the true Ministers and Labourers in Christ Vineyard were in JEHOVAHS work which S. B. is altogether unworthy to engage in and therefore he had better been silent and have done nothing than have uttered so many words without knowledg as he hath done if he had been silent his folly had not so much appeared as it now doth S. B. saith I shall count it a mercy that God hath given me such a fit opportunity to contend for the faith that was once delivered by Christ Ans. In this hast thou S. B. spoken falsly for to contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the Saints is a work for JEHOVAH but thou art altogether unworthy to engage in any work for him as thou hast Confessed S. B. Those people who are known by the name of QVAKERS undertook to prove two things 1st That the Disciples of our Lord Jesus Christ were Commanded to Baptise with the Spirit 2d They undertook to prove that New Testament-Ordinances were abolished Answ. As for the former of these assertions upon the QVAKERS so called we did say something in order to it proved it also viz. That the Disciples of Christ were in his work and had power given them to Baptise people into the Name of the Father Son Holy Ghost which was with the Spirit as hereafter is further discovered And as for the latter of them its exceeding false for we never affirmed that New Testament-Ordinances were abolished nor undertook to prove it but we opposed the Baptists affirming water Baptism to be in force as a New Testament-Ordinance from Mat. 28. 19. when there is no water mentioned but Baptising them into the Name of the Father Son and Holy Ghost as it is in the Greek {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} into the name which Name Baptising or plunging people in outward water doth not Baptise men into for the outward baptism was but a figure of the inward baptism and so had relation to the Law and that state under it which had the Figures and Shadows and is not by these Baptists proved a New Testament-Ordinance as in force by any New Testament Law for New Testament-Ordinances as Preaching Praying Baptising into the Name and Body of Christ and other Ordinances which the Spirit of Christ leads to we own and are in the Life and Practise of them as Christ hath called us S. B. Water Baptism is an Ordinance of Christ still in force and to continue till the second coming and Glorious Appearing of our Lord Jesus Answ. Then in his pleading for Water Baptism to
Baptism is Commanded but the Baptizm of the Spirit was never Commanded nor was it any mans sin not so to be baptized therefore it cannot be meant the Baptizm of the Spirit and to this S. B. adds this Lye That we did not answer at al to this Argument Ans. This Argument is both False and Grounded upon a falshood and in it he hath confuted himselfe for mark that he hath owned That they lay no stress for Salvation upon water Baptizm neither is it of necessity unto Salvation But that Baptism which Christ Commanded in Mat. 28. and Mark 16. is of necessity unto Salvation for by it they were to Baptize men into the Name of the Father Son and holy Ghost Now without being Baptized into this Name a man cannot be saved for by no other Name under heaven comes Salvation but by the Name of Jesus who is a Saviour of the people from their sins Mat. 1. 21. Act. 4. 12. and Christ said he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved Mark 16. 16. So that there is stress or necessity upon this Baptism which Christ commanded for Salvation but so is there not upon water baptism as these Baptists confesse and therefore it was not water baptism but the spirituall baptism which was an effect of the Gospell which is the power of God which the Disciples preached for thereby they turned people from Darknesse to Light and from the Power of Sathan unto God which is known in the Baptism of the Spirit And the Baptism by which the Saints were saved was not the putting away of the filth of the flesh but the answer of a good Conscience 1 Pet. 3. 21. And whereas he saith That it was not any mans sin not to be baptized with the Spirit in this he hath spoken falsly for when men resist the Spirit of God and refuse to be led or baptized by it when it is tendred to them then it is their sin as it was the Lawyers sin to frustrate the Councell of God within themselves not being baptized of John when his Baptism was in its time a Command from heaven much more is it a sin in men now to resist the spirit of God and thereby to reject it's baptism S. B. If any should be so weak to say this baptism here viz. in Mat. 28. is meant the baptism of the Spirit I demand once more of them to shew me when and where the Disciples did obey this Command Answ. They did obey it when they Discipled and Baptised men into the Name of the Father Son and Holy Ghost when they Ministred the Spirit and turned men from darkness to light and a Testimony of this was manifest when the Holy Ghost fell on them that heard the Disciples Preach who were Instruments with whom God wrought when they had received power from on high and they were sent into the world as Christ was sent into the world Joh. 17. 18. who baptised with Fire and with the Holy Ghost and in the same Power and Spirit they went forth Preaching and Baptising people into the Word of God which is the Name of Christ Rev. 19. 13. And moreover Peter said as I began to speak the Holy Ghost fell on them as on us at the beginning then Remembered I the Word of the Lord how that he said John indeed baptised with water but ye shall be baptised with the Holy Ghost Acts 11. 16. which doth plainly evidence That that Power or Holy Ghost accompanied the Disciples Ministry that did so baptise men which was the end of Johns Baptism in which work the True Ministers were Instruments not of themselves but by Christ the power of God in them so that their Gospel went forth in Spirit and in Power S. B. We can prove that some were baptized with water after they had received the Holy Ghost Acts 10. 46. And if these poor Creatures were not hardned in their Apostacy how might such a plain example or instance as this ingage them unto obedience Answ. How poorly do these Baptists Argue for Water Baptism to Continue who having denyed any immediate Call or Authority from Heaven either to Preach or Baptise as this Baptist hath done now would make an Example a Law to engage us to be baptised when as there are many Examples that are no Lawes so that you may see these Baptists do not baptise by any Authority from Heaven and so serve not in the newness of the Spirit but meerly Act by Tradition and their Carnal Imitations without and then why do they not as well Circumcise keep the Passover Purify in the Temple all abstein from Blood and things strangled and command men to keep the Law and shave their Heads c For there are as plain examples for the observing and doing these things from some of the Apostles Command and example after that baptising with water was spoken of Acts 10. 46. see Acts 15. 2 6 7 20 16. 3. 18. 18. 21. 24 25 24. 18. and the Apostles example of observing these things for a time hinders them not from ending in Christ as S. B. falsly intimates that water baptism ends not in Christ because it was practised after his Assention in like manner might he as well have pleaded for Circumcision outward offerings purifying in the Temple the like to continue because they were practised after Christs Assention But as people who had a zeal for these outward Figures grew into the Substance and Life wherein they ended that they were able to bear the denying of them the Apostles Preached the end of them and refused to be in bondage to them again S. B. There be two things to be considered 1st That he must be a Teaching Disciple 2d No more is required but a Teaching Disciple Answ. Which is all one as if he had said the two things required is 1st a Teaching Disciple and 2d a Teaching Disciple what no●cense is here this is but one thing And again if no more be required but a Teaching Disciple then it is not required that a Disciple should baptise with water and thus he throws all his other Doctrines for the continuing of water baptism in the dust and confounds himself S. B. Let these men know that water Baptism is a lively Representation of the Death Burial and Resurrection of our Lord Jesus Answ. Where provest thou that S. B this is sure an Imagination of thy own for how can your plunging people in water be a lively Representation of the Death Burial and Resurrection of Christ sure you are not so long dead in the water when you are plunged in it as Christ was dead as concerning the flesh who was raised the third day by the Power of the Father and it is that power that baptised his people into his death and raiseth them up in the likeness of his Resurrection and not outward water touching which that which this S. B. hath affirmed it is as foolish as a Baptist Teacher's
continue till the end of the World according to his account he hath denyed that the Saints are yet come to the second coming of Christ to Salvation wherein he hath discovered his ignorance of Christs appearance and Salvation and so would keep the Saints under shadows and from the Substance all their life time When as the coming of Christ in the flesh wherein he was offered to bear the Sins of many Heb. 9. 28. was one coming and his appearance in Spirit to save his people from sin is another coming which they that truly looked for did receive and they that yet have that his coming to look for and waite for it he shall so appear to their Salvation Sam. Bradley saith of the QVAKERS The first thing they mention as the Captain General of their manifold untruths that Sam. Bradly a Baptist Teacher affirmed That the Baptism of the Spirit was Metaphorically spoken of in that place 1 Cor. 12. 13. and that the baptism of water was intended To which I say herein hath he wronged our words and falsified our sayings for we said that S. B. affirmed touching 1 Cor. 12. 13. That the baptism of the Spirit there spoken of was metaphorical but the baptism of water was intended And S. B. then Replies thus viz. I did not nor do not affirm that the Baptism of the Spirit was metaphorically spoken of in 1 Cor. 12. 13. And that the baptism of water was there intended Therefore I would advise these men for to learn to speak the Truth Answ. We have affirmed no untruth against thee S. B. for what we said of thee in that particular mentioned was that thou saidst that the Baptism of the Spirit was metaphorical but the baptism of water was intended and this is notoriously known by many that thou affirmedst it upon our urging that 1 Cor. 12. 13. and one of thy brethren sought to vindicate thee in it when thou wast baffled about it as counting that the Apostle spoke metaphorically in that 1 Cor. 12. about the body and the members which was nothing to the purpose also it was several times upon thy assertion asked thee What the Baptism of the Spirit was a Metaphor or a Figure of if it was Metaphorical as thou saidst about which thy mouth was plainly stopt it was so often in the Meeting cast upon thee that thou discovers an exceeding impudent lying spirit in thee now to deny it and to say that what we said of thee about it is altogether untrue as thou sayest About which I could produce several witnesses who know that thou hast spoken absolute falshood in this thing and let the Reader mark thy silly shuffling in this thing thou sayest Thou didst not neither dost affirm that the baptism of the Spirit was metaphorically spoken of in that place 1 Cor. 12. 13. which implyes then that thou hast counted it metaphorical in some other place though not in that place but where ever any true Minister counted the Spirits baptism metaphorical and water baptism intended that thou hast not shewn so its evident that in thy blindnesse thou hast set water baptism above the baptism of the Spirit and so hast made an Idoll of it as also doth appear where thou sayest thus viz. S. B. I did say the Apostle in Ephes. 4. Spake of one Lord one Faith and one Baptism which these men brought in opposition to water baptism to it I made this Answer thou sayest This is not exclusive for there be Lords many as you may see 1 Cor. 8. 5. And yet but one Lord Jesus and we read of divers Baptismes as of affliction Luk. 12. 50. 2dly The Baptism of the Spirit which is spoken of in Acts 2. 3dly The Baptism of water as in Acts 8. and 10. and yet there is but one properly so called to wit that of water Also thou sayst we instance three Baptismes in Scripture and prove one properly so called Ans. If there be so many Baptismes and yet but one propely called baptism which is the Baptism of water then from this it follows that the baptism of the Spirit or the baptism by which the Saints were saved was not properly called Baptism and this would charge the Apostles with speaking improperly or falsly when they spoke of the Baptism by which they were saved or of their being all baptised by one Spirit into one Body And thus this said Baptist's falshood and folly appears who here also counteth the one Baptism spoken of in Eph. 4. the Baptism of water and so hath shut out the baptism of the Spirit as not properly called Baptism and Idollatrously hath set water baptism above it when as the baptism of the Spirit was that which water baptism did but shadow or figure forth for by one Spirit were the Saints baptised into the body of Christ which the baptism of outward water doth not baptise any into for such as uphold water baptism now are in the strife and much in devision when as they who are baptised into the body of Christ are in unity Though thus far we say of water baptism that in its time it was a Command from heaven to John which was in the time of the Law and the least in the Kingdome was greater than John who decreased and in the time of that baptismes decreasing it was used by some of the Apostles in their freedome for the sake of some that were weak or young in the truth and not wholly redeemed out of the state that such carnall or weak ordinances related to which were upheld in the time of the Churches infancy But when the carnall minds of some ran into these outward things and something got up in the minds of the Corinthians to lead them too much to stick in them the Apostle Paul tells them That Christ sent him not to baptise but to preach the Gospel 1 Cor. 1. 17. and yet Pauls Commission was as large as any of the Apostles was for he was not behinde the very chief Apostles and shunned not to declare all the councell of God Act. 20. 27. And whereas S. Bradley instanceth as his paralel That there be Lords many and yet but one Lord Jesus for the divers Baptismes he speaks of as of affliction the baptism of the Spirit the baptism of water and yet but one properly so called to wit that of water To this I say herein hath he discovered his gross darknesse and false comparison which will not hold paralel for it 's as if he had said there be Lords many and Gods many yet to us but one true God and so there are many baptismes as the baptism of affliction the baptism of the Spirit and the baptism of water yet to us there is but one true baptism to wit the baptism of water and the other as that of affliction and the baptism of the Spirit are false baptismes and not properly so called For the many Gods and many Lords or that are called Gods are in the world where