will say it was in heaven To this I say that Lazarus his soul was in the grave where his body was his soul was dead else Christ did not raise him from the dead if his soul were not dead Minde if his soul departed out of his body as most people imagine and went to Heaven or hell then I say Christ would have called to Heaven for his soul to come down and go into the body again if it should be so then Christ did not raise the dead but brought two friends together that were separated one from the other This is the Quakers Faith and many others besides but the Faith of Gods Elect doth stedfastly believe that Lazarus his soul was dead and there in the grave and that by the power of Christs words and groans they entred in to that dead soul in the grave and made it quick and live again Here you see Fox that the soul of Adam the first man did die And also you may see that the soul of Christ did die and that Lazarus his soul was dead and all mens souls else since that are dead because they were mortal This the Scriptures prove as much or more than any one thing whatsoever and this is my knowledge of Scripture And are you George Fox convinced yet that your soul must die For die you must even two deaths a death mortal and a death eternal for you that count it a Lie to say the soul is mortal and must die you shall taste of two deaths but I shall taste but of one this I know to be true and you shall finde my words to be true also 5. Muggleton Thou sayest thou accusest no man of sin yet saith Fox in a few lines after thou accusest the Quakers of sin and blasphemy CHAP. VII ANSWER YOu told a Lie to say I accuse the Quakers of sin and blasphemy a few lines after for I do accuse the Quakers of sin and blasphemy against the Holy Ghost a few lines before I said I accuse no man of sin but because you began to write against me backwards you began at the last side of my Book and so answered this backward I shall bear with that Lie and look upon it as no hainous crime in you but if you had found such a mistake in me you would have triumphed as if it had been the greatest sin in me to tell such a Lie you would have thought it worse than the sin against the Holy Ghost which you Quakers do commit But who ever reads that Book may see that I have said nothing but truth in what I have written of the Quakers 6. Page 5. Fox saith The Scriptures speak of the wicked one and wicked men but where saith he doth the Scriptures speak of a right devil CHAP. VIII ANSWER DOth the Scriptures speak of a wrong Devil there must needs be either a right devil or a wrong devil else the Scriptures would never have spoken so much of a devil if there had been no devil at all For you Fox neither declares what the right devil is nor what the wrong devil is so that no man can tell where nor what the devil is It seems Fox the Quaker thinks it a hard thing to prove by the Scriptures a right devil Do you not read in Scripture that Cain is called a devil who was a murderer and a liar from the beginning and the devil was those Pharisees that disputed with Christ the devil was their father Christ said And was not Cain their father a right devil Is there any sin committed but it is the devil commits it As John saith He that committeth sin is of the devil and if he that commits sin be of the devil then his father that begat him must needs be a right devil Was not Judas that betrayed his Lord was not he a right devil Sure if he had not been a right devil he would never have done that wickedness And you George Fox had not you been a right devil you would never have blasphemed against the Holy Spirit that sent me as you have but you being ignorant who was your father even Cain you know not what your self is and that you are the son of a right devil and so in process of time you your self are become a right devil and you shall be recorded so by the Commission of the Spirit of Truth to the worlds end 7. Page 7. Fox saith The Quakers do not deny Christs flesh and bones who remain in the Heavens until the Restitution of all things CHAP. IX ANSWER HEre people may see the confusion of the Quakers Principles who say Christ is in them and yet Fox saith the Quakers own the flesh of Christ that suffered Here Fox saith The Quakers doth not deny Christs flesh and bones who remain in the Heavens until the restitution of all things But this the Reader may mind that the Quakers do not believe that Christs flesh and bone is now in the Heavens though Fox doth not deny it because the Scriptures are so full to prove the same For if the Quakers should really believe it their Principle of Christ within them would quickly fail and vanish for I never knew none that would avouch that Christs flesh and bone was in them neither wil any of the Quakers avouch that they do believe Christ to be a person now in Heaven above the stars in that same flesh and bone he suffered death in if they should do so how then would all the Quakers do to get Christ within them there could but one Quaker get Christ in him at a time and when Christ comes out of one he must go into another But the Quakers Christ is nothing else but an Allegory and so Fox shews in his following words For saith he we are flesh of his flesh and bone of his bone so that flesh and bone of Christ that was reserved in the Heavens which Fox doth not deny in the words before but in the latter words the Quakers flesh and bones are become Christs flesh and bone so that Christ hath no flesh and bone of his own but what flesh and bone Christ hath of the Quakers But I shall speak of this more in another page but the Reader may a little see Fox his Allegorical Juggle 8. Page 6. Fox calls me a lying spirit because I cursed some Quakers for the sin against the Holy Ghost and saith Christ said Bless and curse not who is the Chief Judge CHAP. X. ANSWER I Do acknowledge that Christ is Chief Judge both of quick and dead but Christ hath chosen me to be chief Judge in his stead here upon earth in spiritual matters and I had my Authority from Christ the onely God without me and not from Christ within me and by this Authority from Christ without me who is now in Heaven above the stars in that same flesh and bone he suffered death in onely that flesh and bone is spiritualized and glorified have I power over you Quakers
been God he could have made all those glorious Creatures above the stars of nothing even so be you Quakers here in mortality you teach your disciples to believe that God made this vast Earth and Waters of nothing witness that Thomas Taylor Speaker of the Quakers in his Letters to me which I have given Answer to and joyn'd it to the Book called The Quakers Neck broken and you Fox and others of your Speakers doth the same for you say you were in Christ before the world was here you are quite mistaken for you were in the Reprobate Angel his seed and nature who is called a Serpent and in this Serpent Angel you and others were in before the world was and so you and others were recorded in the Table of Heaven for the Reprobate seed and to be damned to eternity And as I know from whence you came even from the Serpent aforesaid and that you were in him before the world was so likewise you shall be recorded for damned devils here while the world is as long as time doth last therefore I shall set you down as followeth you being one of the grand Devils you shall be first George Fox Edward Borroughs Francis Howgel Edward Bourn William Smith Samuel Hooton Richard Farnsworth Thomas Taylor John Parrat Richard Whitpane John Harwood Richard Huborthorn Fox the younger and that great lubbardly fellow spoken of in The Quakers Neck broken these were generally all or most of them Speakers of the Quakers and exercised the Ministerial preaching without a Commission from God and not onely so but they have been the greatest fighters against a personal God in Heaven above the stars of any and have sinned against the Holy Spirit that sent us and so have procured the Sentence of eternal Damnation upon them and this Record is true and it shall be recorded in the hearts of the Saints to the worlds end Now I shall give you an Answer to what is needful in George Fox his Book if there be any thing in it that is not sufficiently Answered already in The Quakers Neck broken I am willing to do it for the sakes of some that desire it because I hear the Quakers are very brag of this Book George Fox hath writ against me so they were when Richard Farnsworth printed his Rage and Malice against me but did he prosper afterwards when I had printed an Answer to it For that printed Pamphlet was the occasion of The Quakers Neck broken being printed and doth George Fox think to prosper now he hath manifested himself what he is and his great wisdom which some thought he had will be found but meer foolishness But to the matter in hand The first Accusation that I am accused with is as followeth That I say in The Quakers Neck broken that the Quakers will not bestow a penny in any Writings but their own let it cost them never so much pains the writing and charge in printing This George Fox saith is a lye known to the Printers and Stationers and Book-sellers at London and George Fox hath called me a Lier seven times for this one lye as he calls it yet I shall make it appear I told no lye in those words to say the Quakers will not bestow a penny in any Writings but their own let them cost ever so much pains the writing and charge the printing CHAP. II. Lodowick Muggleton's Answer FIrst I would have the Reader to minde the ignorance and foolishness of this George Fox he undertakes to answer some things in my Book called The Quakers Neck broken and the first thing he begins to answer is the last thing in my Book for it is the last page of my Book and it is a point of the least concernment to a mans eternal happiness of any in that Book but George Fox hath made it of the greatest concernment of all the rest therefore he begins with that first and sets it in the Fore-front of his Pamphlet to shew his Master-piece for he hath set the Cart before the horse for he begins at the latter end of the Book and so goes backwards towards the beginning and charges me with a lying spirit seven times in this one thing as if this was the most hainous sin of all other sins that to say the Quakers would not bestow a penny upon any Writings but their own this is counted a seven-fold worse sin than any other sin whatsoever Let the Reader but minde these things aforesaid and what I shall say in answer to George Fox his printed Pamphlet First George Fox hath gone on like an unwise simple foolish man no ways in order but confused to begin at the latter end of a Book and end at the beginning and catch a bit here and snap at a bit in another place and wrong the words and write some part of a sentence that serves his turn and leaves the other part out that would make against him or clear the matter this he leaves out Now I do commend William Smith and Richard Farnsworth though they are damned Devils yet they went orderly to work they named my words right as they were set down and they rayled against me in order and so went on from point to point in order but you George Fox your Answer is confused for the aforesaid Quakers had a great deal more wisdom in their Writings against me than you have Because I speak of order you Quakers may think I mean good order and so the aforesaid men were good men no but they went in the method and order of Reason the Devil in the wisdom of Reason did they write to me and I was well pleased with it because I knew well enough how to answer Reason the Devil in his best and orderliest wisdom he hath as is now extant in The Quakers Neck broken but you if you have not attained that wisdom of Reason the aforesaid Quakers your brethren have attained for you that are the old Fox is become more ignorant and foolish in spiritual matters than the aforesaid that are younger And as for that saying of mine that you make the greatest sin of all in that I belye the Quakers to say they will not bestow a penny in any Writings but their own that saying of mine is very true for my meaning was the Quakers would not bestow a penny upon any of my Writings though they cost never so much labor the writing and charge the printing and so the following words doth clear my meaning but George Fox hath catcht at that word of mine of any other Writings but their own here was a word out of joynt and that the Fox was glad of for if I had made a distinction between my Writings and others as my meaning was and as my words following did imply then the Fox would have had no hole to have crept out at nor to have called me a Liar seven times for one but as for the Quakers not bestowing a penny upon any Writings though they
Make this good by Scripture CHAP. V. ANSWER I Have proved these two things abundantly by Scripture in my other Writings in The Mortality of the Soul and The Divine Looking-Glass and in The Interpretation of the Eleventh of the Revelation and in The Interpretation of the whole Book of the Revelation these several Books written by us the Witnesses of the Spirit hath clearly opened those two points as much as any one thing whatsoever but I perceive this Fox hath seen none of our Books not as to read them but this book onely of the Quakers Neck broken which makes him so ignorant of the Scriptures and of what we have written also its proves my words true that the Quakers will not bestow a penny in any of my Writings but their own But because some may see this Answer to Fox that hath not seen the other books afore-mentioned I shall prove by the Scriptures again that the Right Devil became flesh and the Soul of man to be mortal First I shall prove the Devil became flesh Let the Reader minde the Interpretation of Scripture In the first Epistle of John chap. 3. verse 8. it is thus written He that committeth sin is of the Devil for the Devil sinneth from the beginning Mark these words The Devil sinneth from the beginning I think there is no man so wickedly ignorant to say that Adam was this Devil that sinned from the beginning for Adam was never called a Devil not throughout the Scriptures for Adam is called the Father of Christ and there is none will dare to say the Devil was the Father of Christ which I shall open more clear hereafter but then of necessity there must be some other Devil in the beginning which all men are ignorant of in these our days but this Commission of the Spirit onely Now this Devil that committeth sin from the beginning must needs be that Serpent that was called A Tree of knowledge of good and evil this I declare was the Devil now this Devil became flesh and after he became flesh then the devil committed sin and this was in the beginning of the world for the faith of the Scriptures goeth no further than the beginning of the Creation of Adam Now minde the twelfth verse that proves that Cain was the first devil in flesh John exhorting the Believers that they should love one another which Commandment was from the beginning not as Cain who was of that wicked one and slew his brother Here it is clear that Cain was none of Adams son for Adam was never counted a wicked one by any that writ Scripture so that Cains father was the devil that is he was that Serpent Angel that deceived Eve and Cain was the devil manifest in flesh and that act of murther which Cain did when he slew his brother Abel is that sin which the devil committed from the beginning for what the devil did before he became flesh was not counted by Moses the Prophets and Apostles to be sin for sin was not imputed to spiritual bodies but to natural bodies onely for spiritual bodies are either to receive the fruit of happiness or the punishment of what they do in the natural body of flesh Again that I may give the Reader a further proof of this minde the Scripture saith there are two Seeds the Seed of the Woman and the Seed of the Serpent now God hath put emnity between these two Seeds now I would fain know of Fox from whence this Seed of the Serpent came If he shall say it came from Adam as most Quakers do they blaspheme against God that made Adam in his own image and likeness both spirit and body onely Adam was earthly and God was heavenly but Adam had but one Seed in his Creation but as men are generated they come to have two Seeds in them so that this Seed of the Serpent must needs be from the fallen Angel that deceived Eve who was called A Tree of Knowledge of good and evil and this Seed of the Serpent that should be at enmity with the Seed of the Woman it is the devil in flesh for God owns the Seed of the Woman to be his own Seed so that Cain was the devil became flesh blood and bone and that seed of Reason in Cain being now become mortal which was immortal before Eve ate of the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil it comes to commit sin from the beginning and to generate and bring forth millions of devils of his own seed and nature and so the enmity of the two Seeds continues from generation to generation to the worlds end For we read in Scripture that Cain is the Father of all wicked men and women and that wicked men and women are his children as the Reader may see in Matthew how the devil tempted Christ that devil that tempted Christ was a man yet called a Devil as you may see Deuteronomy the sixth and the sixteenth verse that the Jewes that tempted God are called Devils and when Christ answered the devil and said It is written thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God but him onely shalt thou serve so that rebellious men are called the Devil that tempt God And where was there ever given any Law to any other devil but to man to serve the Lord his God So that it may be clear to the Seed of Faith that man is a devil and that there is no other devil that can or doth tempt God but man Again it is clear that men are the children of the devil now they cannot be children of the devil except they be of his seed begotten of him and this is clear by Scripture as may be read John 8. verse 44. Christ saith to the Jews that were men who said they were Abrahams children and said they were Gods children but Christ saith these men were the devils children Ye are saith he of your father the devil and the lusts of your father you will do he was a murtherer from the beginning and abode not in the truth because there is no truth in him when he speaketh a lie he speaketh of his own for he is a Liar and the father of it Now minde there never was no liar nor murderer but man and Cain being the first murderer and liar from the beginning for when Cain killed Abel and lied unto God and said Am I my brothers keeper this was the first murder and lie the devil Cain committed upon earth after the devil became flesh therefore called by the Spirit of Revelation of Faith A murderer and a liar from the beginning for then the devil in flesh began to murder and lie and so this sin hath run in the line of all his posterity from generation to generation so that the Reader may see that men are the children of the devil and that the devil their father was a man even Cain This is the true meaning of the Scriptures and from this Cain did Feorge Fox come and this
they might attain those Witchcraft-fits but could not attain them do what they could They got the Quakers language of Thee and Thou but could not attain the Fits neither would some of those Quakers own one of these persons because she had not such Fits as they had so she was forc'd to leave them And the cause why these persons aforesaid could have no such Fits it was because they had talked with me before they fell to the Quakers Principles so that no Witchcraft-Fit could be produced in them though their endeavors were great Also I have drove the Witchcraft-power out of Quakers that have been strongly possest so that they have never had Fit more And as for you Fox have you ever had any Witchcraft-fit since you were damned did you ever fall into a swoon and lye as one dumb and hath the spirit of Reason the devil which you call the Light of Christ in you I ask hath he revealed any mysteries of the Scriptures in the time of your Fit since you were damned fourteen years ago Is your revelation of Reason to be seen in writing yea or nay Again hath Samuel Hooton William Smith Edward Bourn Richard Farnsworth and many others that were damned of late years have they had any Witchcraft-fits since or any new revelation if they have let them be brought forth to the light Do you George Fox know any Quaker that I have passed the Sentence upon that can produce a Witchcraft-fit afterwards If no Fit can be produced as formerly then I say no true revelation nor experience can arise in the Quakeâ—s hearts Nay this Sentence it puts a stop to the revelation of Reason also else why should Quakers fall so as you do from your first Principle for you are not like the people you were sixteen years ago there were few Quakers then but they had Witchcraft-fits but now of late I do not hear of any Quaker that hath any Fits no not so much as to buzz or hum before the Fit comes But if you Fox doth know any of you Quakers that have any of those Witchcraft-fits as formerly bring them to me or let me hear of it and I shall cast out that devil which caused those Fits so that they shall never have more but shall be sensible and in their right mind So Fox you shall finde my words to be truth and no lie that the Quakers after the Sentence is past upon them shall never grow to have more experience in Visions and Revelations but shall wither Do not you Fox finde this to be true if you do not others will witness unto it to be truth But you say The truth spreads I know the truth spreads but not the Quakers Witchcraft-fits which produced Visions Apparitions and Revelations which the Quakers thought had been produced by the Spirit of Christ but they were produced by the spirit of Reason the Devil in themselves and these Fits Visions Apparitions and Revelations in the Quakers are greatly withered away of late by that Sentence I have passed upon the Speakers of the Quakers and others of that opinion so that those Fits of theirs makes most people ashamed to own them which formerly people thought them the most knowingst that was possest with a Witchcraft-fit so that it is plain and clear and many that were lovers of the Quakers way of Worship that can and will witness that their experience in Visions and Revelation are withered and come to nothing But Fox thinks because a many ignorant people comes to hear the Quakers speak their ninny-nonies over and over again therefore the Truth as he calls it spreads but when it was at the best it was but a lie that spreads indeed a lie will spread very fast but truth spreads very slowly for truth was ten years in the world and there was not much above forty persons that owned it but the Quakers at that time had many thousands that were Quakers as was exprest by those five damned Quakers in Eastcheap mentioned in that Book called The Quakers Neck broken 14. Page 14. Muggleton saith He could never finde any Quaker that would own God to be a person in form of a man which shews the Quakers darkness Here saith Fox Muggleton hath shewed his ignorance of the Scriptures for saith he the Scriptures saith That God is a Spirit And Christ saith that a Spirit hath not flesh and bone as I have And saith Fox God fills heaven and earth and herein saith he thou hast shewed thy ignorance and darkness CHAP. XVII ANSWER TO this I shall make it appear to the Reader that my words are truth and that Fox hath shewed his ignorance and darkness both of Gods filling Heaven and earth and that Fox nor the Quakers doth not believe that Christ hath flesh and bone of his own distinct of himself and that this flesh and bone of Christ is now in heaven above the stars Let the Reader minde the words of Christ His disciples supposed they had seen a Spirit these disciples were ignorant at that time as most people thinking that Spirits might walk without bodies or that Spirits might assume bodies and appear to men this ignorant opinion was in the disciples of Christ before they were endued with power from on high and this is the general opinion of all men but those that have a Commission from God for if God had never chosen Prophets and Apostles and Witnesses to enlighten the understanding of people all people in the world would have believed so therefore it was that Prophets caused Kings to put to death all Witches and Wizards that dealt with familiar spirits as Samuel did and King Saul out of Israel but all the Nations of the earth besides did practice Witchcraft and dealing with familiar spirits and did believe that spirits might and did walk without bodies and could assume what shapes they please The same opinion is now all the world over and in the Quakers also and the disciples of Christ at that time had a smatch of the Heathen opinion in them which made them through their ignorance to suppose they had seen a Spirit without a body to walk before them but Christ willing to convince them of that vain and lying opinion saith to his disciples Feel me and handle me for a Spirit hath not flesh and bone as I have as if he should say No Spirit can appear without a body for a Spirit without a body is a meer shadow presented to your fantasie through your ignorance as if Christ should say do not believe that Spirits can walk without bodies there is no such thing it is but a meer shadow you suppose to be a Spirit but come to me and feel me and handle me for a shadow as you take or think to be a Spirit hath not flesh and bone nor is of no substance as I am This was after Christ was risen from the dead and before the Apostles had received power from on high so that the Reader
Reader that the person that is accepted of God of that person the righteous Seed must and doth come of look what person is rejected of God of that person must and doth come the reprobate and cursed Seed as it was in Cain and Esau also Esau would have put his reasoning of his mind in practise had not Rebecca his Mother by her revelation of Faith sent Jacob away out of Esaus reach but Esaus resolution remained in his minde still and waited for an opportunity now was not this reason in Esau the devil for if Esau had had no reason to kill Jacob he would never have resolved to do such wickedness but Esau thought he had good reason to kill Jacob who had stoln away the blessing from him whose birthright he thought in reason it was so he thought it was but reason to kill his brother who had done him that injury or wrong was not this the spirit of reason the devil in Esau that would have killed his brother Jacob of whom the righteous Seed came of Again were not those reasonable men that talked with Christ to whom Christ said Why reason you in your selves saying you have Abraham for your Father saith Christ God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham so those Pharisees and Saducees that came to the baptism of John Mat. 4. were they not wise rational men and indued with a high measure of reason did not they ask a reasonable question whether John was the Christ or no yet John calls them a generation of vipers and Christ calls those wise rational men he talked with Serpents Devils yea and that the devil was their Father yet these were wise prudent men indued with a great measure of reason they were no distracted men nor possest with any witchcraft-fits as you Quakers are but were sober sensible men and would ask a reasonable question and required a reasonable answer yet this spirit of reason in these wise and prudent men it was but the devil reason in them For John calls them a generation of vipers and Christ calls them Serpents Devils and that they were the devils children yet these were wise men endued with reason and it was that wisdom of reason in them that would have intrapt Christ in his words that they might have had some reason to have put him to death for Reason propounds questions to catch him in his words that they might have had some reason to put him to death therefore Reason layd many snares to catch him So they reasoned amongst themselves if we let this man alone the Romans will take away our place and nation so when they had accomplished their desires by their reason and brought him before the High-priest and Councel of the Jews the Councel some of them reasoned that it was fit Christ should die for blasphemy in that he made himself the Son of God others reasoned again that he ought not to die by their Law not being justly accused So when he came into Pilates custody what reasoning had Pilate in his spirit his reason told him it was better to whip Christ than to kill him and Pilates wifes dream put him exceedingly to reason how he might deliver Christ but the reason of the High-priests and Elders and those that were below them their reason was too strong for Pilate and Pilate thought it more reason to obey Cesar then his wifes dream or the reasoning of his own heart So that his reason was he thought better to keep the favour of Cesar and the honor of this world than the peace of his conscience and favour with God so his reason and their reason together delivered up the Just One to be crucified by reasonable men for the Centurion and those that guarded him were reasonable men also and thought it but reason to obey their Rulers command in this as well as other things so that it may be cleer to those that are truely inlightned that the spirit of reason in man is the devil and that the spirit of reason did kill the righteous in the beginning and the spirit of reason did kill the Just person even Christ Jesus CHAP. XXIII AGain it may be cleer that the spirit of reason in man is the devil as may plainly appear by those Chief-priests and Elders of the Jews as in Mat. 21 23. these Chief-priests and Elders would know of Christ by what authority he did those things but Christs answer was Is the Baptisme of John from Heaven or of men and these Chief-priests and Elders of the Jews reasoned in themselves if they should say from Heaven then their reason told them they fought against God and if they should say John Baptist had his commission from men to baptise with water then their reason told them that the people would stone them So they reasoned in themselves it was better to say they could not tell which was a lye against the light of their own conscience Here the Reader may see that the spirit of reason in man is the devil for these Chief-priests and Elders were wise prudent men endued with a great measure of reason else they would not have bin chosen Governors and Expounders of the Law and Prophets to the people of the Jews yet these reasonable men were devils even those who Christ called Serpents Devils and John Baptist called a generation of vipers So that it may be cleer to those that are inlightned that the reason in man is the devil and not onely a devil but a damned devil for it was the spirit of reason in man that always blasphemed and fought against God and persecuted and killed the Just and the righteous because God would not accept of the devil reasons worship as he did of the Just and innocent worship of the spirit of Faith and as for that saying of Paul who desired to be delivered from unreasonable men for all men have not faith I am of Pauls mind in that for I have had experience in a measure of the bad dealings of unreasonable men as Paul had but I shall shew the cause and why Paul calls them unreasonable men it was because the rude multitude or some envious men upon the report of other envious people would beat and abuse Paul without any authority from the Rulers or without the command of some officer as is cleer in the Acts concerning Demetrius and the Goddess Diana how were some of Pauls friends beaten by unreasonable men and Paul himself would have bin served so and worse had he not bin rescued by the Town-Clark's speech which speech of his shewed that the people did that which was not lawful by their Law therefore unreasonable and were in danger to be called to account by the Judges of their Law as Deputies and such and to be punished as offenders of the Law for their unreasonable practice to beat and kill men uncondemned by the Law as you may see Acts the 19.18 and so in Acts 23. How Paul had
Scripture nor man Here the Reader may plainly see that the Quakers Christ within them is no other but the Law written in their hearts as the Heathen had as aforesaid their thoughts accusing and excusing this is that Christ within them they so much talk of and this is that power and spirit and divine light of Christ the Quakers could have spoken in had they never seen letter of Scripture nor man this is the same the Heathen had in them and this I say had the Quakers never seen letter of Scripture nor man that professed the letter of the Scripture I say the Quakers would have talked nor spoke no more of a Christ within them then cursed Cain and his posterity did or the old world that was drowned or Sodom These wicked people never saw no letter of Scripture nor man that had faith not as they knew yet they had the same Christ within them as the Quakers have by the Law written in their hearts and might have spoken in the power and spirit of the divine light of Christ as the Quakers do had they seen the letter of the Scripture and men that believes them as the Quakers do So that it may be cleer to those that have the true light of Faith and of the interpretation of the letter of the Scripture that the Quakers principle of the light of Christ within them is no other but the light of the Law written in their hearts as the Heathen had before any Scriptures were written and by this Law are they judged in themselves and this is their Christ within them and this is that power and spirit and divine light of Christ they could have spoken in had they never seen letter of Scripture nor man that professeth Scripture and that they do speak now they have seen letter of Scripture and men that profess it and believe it I say is the very same for the Quakers have no more faith in the true Christ then if they had never seen letter of Scripture nor any man that believes them what they have is meer traditional even the faith of devils for the Law written in their hearts is the onely and alone Christ the Quakers have to save them and this Christ is indeed within them and will never go out of them but torment them to eternity 4. Fox gives glory to his God and Christ within him who hath as he saith set him and other Quakers above that curse and sentence I have passed upon them CHAP. XXXII ANSWER YOur glory to your God and Christ within you will fail you in the day of trouble neither will nor can deliver you from that curse and sentence I have passed upon you and others of your brethren neither will you ever be set above it but shall be kept under it to eternity flatter your self as much as you can you shall not be delivered neither by your Christ within you nor by the true Christ without you this I know 5. Fox blames me for saying God hath made me Judge of the Quakers spiritual estate and yet saith he thou ownest thy self but a mortal man For saith Fox the spiritual man judgeth all things CHAP. XXXIII ANSWER Did you Fox ever see any man condemned to die either natural death or eternal death by a spiritual man without a body are not all men condemned both natural and spiritual by mortal men like themselves Was not Moses a mortal man did not he condemn and judge many to die he said but the word and it was done and did not Eliah call for fire from Heaven and destroy two Captains and their fifties with many other strange things he did whereby many were judged by him and killed yet he was but a mortal man and subject to infirmity as mortal men are as the Scripture saith Again was not Peter a mortal men and was put to death himself yet he judged Ananias and Saphirah his wife to death yet a mortal man so is it with every true Prophet and Messenger of Christ he hath power to set life and death before men and power to judge and condemne those that rebel against his commission and to justifie those that yield obedience unto it yet all Gods Messengers they were mortal men now these mortal men had great power being commissionated of God and they all acted according to the tenor of their commission and some of them destroyed life presently And I am sure if you Fox had lived in Moses time you would have been consumed by him in the gainsaying of Corah for you would have rebelled against Moses Aaron as you do now against John Reeve and me but because my Commission is not to consume you immediately by a natural destruction you proudly vaunt your self against the Commission of the Spirit thinking you and your Christ within you shall be able to encounter with me and my Christ without me but I must judge according to my Commission of the Spirit and not as Moses and the Apostles did to destroy the natural life immediately but our commission is with relation to the spiritual estate of men and women after death and accordingly we judge yet but mortal men and must die our selves this power hath God given unto me and by vertue of this am I made Judge of the Quakers spiritual and eternal estate what will become of many of you after death And as for that saying The spiritual man judgeth all things this is to be minded that every true Messenger and Minister of Christ may be called a spiritual man and he is so because he teacheth such doctrine that doth comfort the spirits of some and torment the spirits of others in that it divides between the joynts and the marrow Also those that truly believe may be called spiritual men and can judge the spirits of unbelievers because they know by faith in the doctrine of the true God that others that have not the same faith cannot have that peace as they have for they know by experience in themselves when they were unbelievers they were without God in the world and so were not able to judge who were happy and who were not but being justified by faith in the true God they have peace with God and so can discern and judge the spirits of others by what they were themselves who were some time in darkness but now in the light of heaven and who ever hath this true faith in the doctrine of the true God may be said to be a spiritual man and able to judge all things that is naught in himself and all the unbelief and despisings of others And so he judgeth all things by his faith in the true God and in the Messenger God hath sent yet Minister and People are but mortal men and must die yet called by the Seed of Faith the spiritual man that judgeth all things and is judged of no man Therefore you Fox shall never have any spiritual man to judge you to eternal damnation but
they would but our other writings doth speak more large of this point so I shall say no more as to this Onely this that this power we the Witnesses of the Spirit have is the power of Christ as the Prophets and Apostles power was in their time therefore said to be done by Christ himself But I know Fox the Quaker is willing to believe that dead Prophets and Apostles were Messengers of Christ but he doth not believe there is any sent of Christ not alive but what is within them but he shall find that we the Witnesses of the Spirit were sent of God and have as great power given us as any Prophet or Apostle whatsoever And as for that saying of John Revelation 5. That no man in Heaven nor in Earth nor under the Earth was able to open the Book but the Lion of the Tribe of Judah This I would have the Reader to minde for it is a vain thing to talk to Quakers of interpretation of Scripture by man that is alive but John that spake these words being dead the Quakers believe his words though they know nothing what he meant nor what that Book was that none could open but Christ This let the Reader minde that there is three Books that are to be opened by Christ as you may see Rev. 20.20 And the Books were opened and another book was opened which is the Book of Life Now to give the Reader to understand these three Books the first Book is the Law written in mans heart this Book are all the Heathen are to be judged by when it is opened at the great day of the Lord. The second Book is the Conscience of people who hath heard the preaching of Faith in Christ yet did not believe when this Book is opened they shall be judged at that great day in themselves for their unbelief The third Book is the Book of Life wherein all true believers Faith is written and according to their works of faith they are judged and so according to the works of unbelief are judged and according to the works of reason their thoughts accusing shall the Heathen be judged according to what is written In these Books shall all people be judged both small and great Mind and look what judgement Gods Messengers hath given unto men in this life the same will Christ give when he doth raise them again at the last day as I have said before therefore this Book which no man in Heaven nor in Earth could open it was the Book of Life and none was found worthy to open the Book of Life but Christ he being the Lion of the Tribe of Judah This Book of Life must needs belong to Christ to open and to no man else for he is God the first and the last the beginning and the end of all mankind but what is this to interpret Scripture Christ hath given that to man but I have opened these things more large in the Interpretation of the whole Book of the Revelation In the last place I shall say something as to the Quakers principle practice Fox saith in the end of his Pamphlet against me that I am judged with the Spirit of Truth and over me saith Fox is the true and Faithful witness Christ Jesus the Corner-stone which will grind me to powder Further Fox saith in Christ is his people meaning the Quakers that reign over my head that can raise and reign over the head of the curser and Fox saith Edward Bourn whom thou hast curst and damned who is far above thee and thy Father in him that redeems out of the curse and destroys thee and thy Father both I do acknowledge that Christ Jesus the Faithful Witness the Corner-stone should grinde me to powder if he doth not own me to be sent of him if I do curse any without a commission from him or if I should curse any of the true Christs people then let that curse be upon my own head as Fox saith Also I was always willing that those people that were ingrafted into Christ by Faith should be above me for there is no people in Christ but such as are ingrafted into him by faith which I am sure no Quaker is as in that state neither can any man be a member of Christ but by the hearing of Faith and faith comes by hearing how can any preach the word of faith except he be sent as I am sure no Quaker never was sent of Christ to preach therefore no Quakers people in Christ But that Christ the Quakers people are in I that am a man hath power over some I have separated their Christ from them one from the other and hath shewed them the true Christ to their great satisfaction and they have bin glad they were rid of the Quakers Christ Others again hath bin condemned by me both them and their Christ neither would I let them and their Christ part one from another but torment each other for this Christ the Quakers hath in them is the Law written in their hearts and the Christ the Quaker people are in is the motions of this Law and sometimes they do well then the Law is quiet in them and their Christ giveth peace to them so I knowing this Christ was born with man and man born with it as the Apostle saith being under the Law then free from grace But being born again we are not under the Law but under Grace but the Quakers people are under the Law though not the outward letter as the people of the Jews were yet they are under the Law written in their hearts as the Heathen were before any Law was given and this is the Quakers Christ within them and that Christ they are in so that Christ the only God hath chosen me and hath given me power over the Quakers Christ within them and themselves also to keep them together so that the one shall not part from the other for though they shall desire that this Christ within them might part from them but it will not but torment their souls to eternity This will be Fox the Quakers portion and many more Quakers besides and if you Edward Bourn and others of the Quakers whom I have cursed do get over or above that curse and sentence I have passed upon you let your righteousness be what it will I say then Cain shall get above and over that curse God himself pronounced upon him and so shall Judas get above that curse Christ pronounced upon him Furthermore if you Quakers were not wilfully ignorant and blinde you might see that this commission of the Spirit given to John Reeve and Muggleton hath had great power over the Ranters and Quakers it hath broken the Ranters principle all to pieces so that none dares hold up an argument to defend it you Quakers also are very much shattered you are not like the people ye were 16 years ago this some that had a love for you have seen confest The Ranters
your souls to eternity and none shall deliver you from it Thus much in answer to George Fox his printed Pamphlet By Lodwick Muggleton Here followeth the Copy of a LETTER sent to SARAH COPPIN Quaker Sarah Coppin YOu may remember about fourteen years ago in the year 1653. that you did seem to receive John Reeve and Lodowick Muggleton as Messengers and Prophets of the Lord or as Witnesses of the Spirit and further you did shew much kindness unto us upon that account for there could be no other inducement in us at that time to invite any to shew kindness unto us but that doctrine declared by us concerning the true God as our writings did declare which you did seem to own Also you may remember your great zeal you had for us when we were prisoners in Old-Bridewel your zeal carried you out so far for us to deliver a Writing of ours unto Oliver Cromwel who was then chosen Lord Protector this you did your self in zeal and love to this Commssiion of the Spirit as we the Witnesses of the Spirit thought and I suppose your self did think what you did in that kinde it was in sincerity of heart also and we took it so and had a love for you as to your eternal happiness but your faith was not truely grounded neither upon the doctrine of the true God nor the Commission of the Spirit as it is manifest since Also you may remember one Joan Bishop a maid that was the occasion of bringing you acquainted with us and that you had been very religiously given before you met with us even so much that you were almost distracted about your salvation in that none of the Preachers of the Nation could shew you the way to rest for your soul they having no true rest themselves yet you may remember your receiving us upon that account as Prophets of the Lord who had put down John Taney John Robins and many others that went as prophets and prophetesses and pretended great revelations and visions from the Lord and yet knew not what God is these all have been brought down by us the Witnesses of the Spirit these things you know in part Also your acquaintance with us it cured you of that distracted condition you were in before you knew us and you were clothed in your right minde and was able to give a sensible Answer to any that did oppose you but I know you cannot do so now you are turned to the Quakers though you are become a Speaker amongst them I know your pride and ambition of your heart that loveth to be esteemed of people what a Woman-preacher you think this to be a great glory to you but the greatest shame that possible may be will be the effects of it for it is not your many sensless speeches without form or order produced by a witchcraft spirit within you which you call the light of Christ I say this you have gloried in will be your endless shame for your latter end will be worse than your beginning for you are become an absolute Apostate who hath back-slided and fallen from the truth and turned to the Quakers the most Antichristian Principle of all the seven Churches and the greatest fighters against a personal God without man of any so that you are an absolute Apostate and impossible to be renewed by repentance for you are fallen from truth to a lie for you are as some were in the Apostles time as Heb. 3 6. who were enlightened and had tasted of the good word of God and the powers of the life to come that is they were enlightened by the Commission of the Gospel committed to them to preach they tasted that good word of God even the doctrine of Christ which was life and salvation to them that truly believed But seeming believers tasted of this good word of God which the Apostles preached and rejoyced in it for a season as Herod did and as for the powers of the life to come they had peace in their minds and hope of eternal life by the Apostles doctrine so long as they stood by faith but when they fell away from that faith they once profest they could not be renewed again by repentance so that all that light and word of God they tasted of and peace and hope which is the powers of the life to come it all withered and dyed within them so that they were not sensible of the light of heaven nor any goodness of Gods word they preacht nor any peace or hope they ever found by owning the Apostles doctrine so it is with you as it was with those apostates that did fall away from the Apostles Commission after they had made a profession to own and believe it and had received many refreshments in their mindes and had tasted of the Joys of Heaven but in that they did fall from it to some other opinion as to the worship of the Law as the Galatians did who were bewitched as Paul saith so that their latter end was worse than their beginning For before a man joyn with truth though he doth not believe it for the present yet it is possible he may be renewed in his minde and come afterwards to believe and be saved but if any shall profess truth and rejoyce in it for a season and afterwards fall away it is impossible for such an one to be renewed by repentance as aforesaid And this is your condition for you rejoyced in this Commission of the Spirit for a season and did many good acts for us which did manifest that you had a love for this Declaration of John Reeve and my self and yet afterwards to fall away from the belief of it and not onely so but to speak evil of us the Witnesses of the Spirit In that you said you knew John Reeve and Lodowick Muggleton very well and that we were the greatest Deceivers that ever was and that as soon as ever you met with Truth meaning the Quakers then you forsook us these with such like words and more than I mention here did you say which is clear to me that you are not onely fallen from grace but you have trampled the blood of the Covenant under foot and counted it an unholy thing even that whereby you should have been sanctified by faith had you held out to the end you should have been saved by this Commission of the Spirit for there is no salvation under heaven to be found in these days but in the belief of this Commission of the Spirit given of God to John Reeve and my self for our Commission is as true as the Apostles Commission was at that time and we as true Prophets as they were Apostles so that whoever shall make a profession of this and fall away afterwards and speak evil of that they once owned I say they trample the blood of the Covenant under foot now as they did in the Apostles time and do count that an unholy thing that should have given
slanders are not the first nor the greatest that hath bin laid upon me by you Quakers but knowing my own innocency I am never moved at such slanders in the temporal for if one man tells a lye of me another man though he be my enemie yet he will justifie the truth on my side in things that are moral for such things are easily decided and made manifest here in this world so that I am not offended with you for your lies and slanders you have reported of me in these things as aforesaid but I have a greater charge against you then this even the sin again the Holy Ghost that unpardonable sin I can bear with any slanders and lies in the temporal but with blasphemy against the Holy Spirit that sent me I cannot nor shall not bear with it for it is reported to me by the party aforesaid that you Richard Chair hath bin very wrath and angry with me a long time in so much that you have called me a blasphemer and the doctrine declared by me blasphemy you have called me a Decever a Lier these things you have done several times with many other wicked envious speeches also you have in a scoffing manner asked the party aforesaid if I did damn folks apace and lately you asked the same party how many Muggleton had damned this week doth not all these things shew unto me clearly that you are of the seed of the Serpent and of the reprobat seed appointed to be damned and is it not great pitty that such a blaspheming devil should escape the Sentence of damnation so long as you have for you have reigned in your blasphemy against the Holy Spirit that sent me a great while but as the saying is when your sin is at the height then you must be damned just as the Judges doe with thieves that have escaped hanging several times yet the thief continuing still in the same practice the Judge saith you had as good hang this man out of the way for he will never be better so the man is hanged and when he is condemned to be hanged his sins may be said to be at the full or at the height so is it with you Richard Chair your sin of blasphemy against the Holy Ghost is at the full for you have committed that sin very oft so that it is high time to give the sentence of eternal damnation upon you for you will never be good for you being the seed of the Serpent you cannot bring forth better fruits then blaspemy lies and slanders against the Messenger of the most high God the man Christ Jesus in glory These things aforesaid considered by vertue of my commission from God I do for these blasphemies against the Holy Ghost I do pronounce Richard Chair Quaker cursed and damned both in soul and body from the presence of God elect men and Angels to eternity and do you now see if you can scoffe this sentence off you again no it shall cleave as close to you as your skin to your flesh and you shall know that the most High hath given power unto a mortal man like your self to give sentence of eternal damnation upon you both body and soul and now you may apply your self to George Fox the Quaker and see if he or the light within you can deliver you from what I have said for when I do write an answer to Fox his ignorant Pamphlet against me I shall record you and he and others in that answer for a company of damned Quakers for this Sentence of yours shall be recorded to remain from generation to generation so long as the Sun and Moon indureth The Copy of a Letter sent to Richard Chair Quaker a Smith by trade in Shoreditch Sept. the 26. 1667. Written by Lodwick Muggleton one of the two last Prophets and Witnesses of the Spirit unto the high and mighty God the Man Christ Jesus in Glory FINIS