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B03911 An account of the conversion of Theodore John, a late teacher among the Jews, together with his confession of the Christian faith, which he delivered immediately before he was baptized in the presence of the Lutheran congregation in the German church in Little-Trinity Lane, London, on the 23d. Sunday after Trinity, being the 31st. of October, in the year of our Lord God 1692. Translated out of High Dutch into English. John, Theodore. 1693 (1693) Wing J762; Interim Tract Supplement Guide 482.b.3[15]; ESTC R26146 17,329 71

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bless us and all the ends of the earth shall fear him Q. Why is the Second Person called Ours 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 our God after a more especial manner A. Because he would be Ours more especially by taking our Flesh and Blood upon himself and becoming our Redeemer and Saviour Q. Are these three Persons called by different Names A. Yes they are the first we call the Father the second Son and the third the Holy Ghost Q. Are these Names express'd in Scripture A. Yes Psal 89. God says the Messias shall call him my Father Psal 2.7 God the Father says Thou art my Son this day have I begotten thee See Prov. 31.6 The Holy Ghost is often mentioned among other places See Isa 48.16 Ch. 63.10 Q. What does the word His Spirit mean in that place A. This that he proceeds from the Father and the Son Q. Whose Son should the Messias be A. The Son of God and the Son of Man Q. How should he be the Son of God Adopted of God or begotten by God out of his Essence A. Begotten by God as he is out of his Essence Thus God says to the Messias Psal 2. Thou art my Son this day have I begotten thee Q. This day what is meant by that A. From Everlasting so the Messias himself explains it Prov. 8.22 The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way before his works of old 23. I was set up from everlasting from the beginning or ever the Earth was 24. When there were no depths I was brought forth when there were no fountains abounding with water 25. Before the mountains were settled before the hills was I brought forth 26. While as yet he had not made the earth nor the fields nor the highest part of the dust of the world 27. When he prepared the Heavens I was there when he set a compass upon the face of the depth 28. When he established the Clouds above when he strengthened the fountains of the depth 29. When he gave to the Sea his Decree that the water should not pass his Commandment when he appointed the Fountains of the Earth 30. Then I was by him as one brought up with him and I was daily his delight rejoycing always before him 31. Rejoycing in the habitable part of the Earth and my delights were with the Sons of Men. Q. How are you sure that the second Psalm does not speak of David Solomon or any other but the Messias A. 1. Because God says he hath begotten him from Everlasting which cannot be said of any Man 2. Because he promised to give him the Heathen for his Inheritance and the uttermost parts of the Earth for his Possession whereas David as well as Solomon were so far from possessing them that a great part of them were not in their time discovered Again the same Psalm towards the end says Kiss the Son lest he be angry and ye perish from the way when his wrath is kindled but a little blessed are all they that put their trust in him Of any one that is no more than Man the Prophet Jeremiah says Chap. 17.5 Cursed be the man that trusteth in man and maketh flesh his arm Q. But was the Messias to be the Son of Man also A. Yes for that reason he is called the Seed of the Woman and the Son of Man Q. From what Family should he descend A. From David's he is styled the Branch of David Isa 11.1 Jer. 25.5 Q. Who was to be his Mother A. A Virgin according to Isa 7.14 Behold a Virgin shall conceive and bear a Son and call his Name Immanuel Q. Having made so good a Confession concerning the Coming of the Messias as also of his Person and his Office tell me now who this Messias is A The Lord Jesus of Nazareth Q. Do you firmly believe and are fully convinced that Jesus of Nazareth is that Messias which was promised to the fore-fathers A. Yes I do firmly believe it for I can find no other but him that could be the same Q. By what Arguments do you prove that A. It is plain and evident to Mankind that all the Characters and Properties attributed to the Messias by Moses and the Prophets are undeniably fulfilled and made up in the said Jesus of Nazareth Q. Explain this more clearly A. All the World is sensible that Jesus of Nazareth did come at the time appointed for the Messias viz. Before the Scepter departed from the Jews before Jerusalem and the Sanctuary were desolated before Bethlehem was destroyed before Oblations and Sacrifices ceased and before the Seventy Weeks mentioned in Daniel were expired It is without question that he came to the second Temple and taught in it according to Haggai and Malachy's Prophecy Also it is evident that he was Born at Bethlehem the place appointed by Micah It 's undeniable that Forty Years after his Death the City and Temple were destroyed and the Oblations ceased It 's universally known that in the latter end of those Seventy Weeks he dyed being murdered and killed after a violent and horrible manner like a Malefactor crucified according to the sence and sound of the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 exprest in Daniel Ch. 9. v. 26. It is past contradiction that the Jews were offended at Jesus of Nazareth the same which Isaiah foretold should befal the Messias as is express'd Ch. 8. v. 13 14. and Ch 53. v. 2 3. All which happening thus to Jesus of Nazareth is a clear Demonstration of his being the true Messias Q. Is there any thing more foretold of the Messias and fulfilled in Jesus of Nazareth A. Yes there is viz. 'T is evidently known that the People and Nations do cleave to the Lord Jesus as they should do to the Messias according to Isa 2.2 Also that Jesus performed those Miracles which the Messias should do in making the Blind to see the Deaf to hear the Lame to walk Isa 35.5 6. Also that he is the Off-spring of David born of a Virgin as the Messias should be Isa 7.14 Also that he has given a New Covenant as Isaiah Chap. 2. and Jeremiah Ch. 31. had foretold In fine there is not one jot or tittle excepted of all that which was prophesied of the Messias but was most exactly compleated in and by Jesus of Nazareth therefore it is no less true that Jesus of Nazareth is the true Messias than that God Almighty is a true God Q. What Appeal to the veracity of God do you make here A. I observe that to give false Attributes to the Messias when promised or to alter those that once were given or published are things too absurd and blasphemous to be thought of God God is not a Man that he should lye meither the Son of Man that he should repent Hath he said and shall he not do it Or has he spoken and shall he not make it good Much less probable is it that God would have suffered the true Characters of the
By Micah it 's said that his goings forth hath been from of old from everlasting Q. Have you any other place for it A. Yes in the eighth Chapter of the Proverbs Messias the eternal Wisdom of God says of himself The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way before his works of old I was set up from everlasting from the beginning or ever the Earth was When there were no depths I was brought forth when there were no fountains abounding with water before the mountains were setled before the hills I was brought forth while as yet he had not made the earth nor the fields nor the highest part of the dust of the world When he prepared the Heavens I was there when he set a compass upon the face of the depth when he establish'd the clouds about when he strengthened the fountains of the deep when he gave to the sea his decree that the waters should not pass his commandments when he appointed the foundations of the earth then I was by him Q. What divine actions do you find of the Messias A. The destroying the Power of the Devil Q. Was there such a thing foretold of him A. Yes God speaks unto the Serpent Gen. 3.15 I will put enmity between thee and the woman and between thy seed and her seed it shall bruise thy head and thou shalt bruise his heel Q. What is here meant by the Seed of the Woman A The Messias Ses Rabb 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 indeed this is the Messias Q. Why is he called so A. Because he should be born of a Virgin according to that place Behold a Virgin shall conceive and bear a Son and shall call his Name Immanuel Isa 11.14 Q. What is meant by the Serpent A. The Infernal Serpent called the Devil and Satan Q. Are there any Divine Works besides this attributed to the Messias A. Yes there are viz. the Creation of Heaven and Earth and the pouring out of the Holy Ghost Q. What says the Messias of them A. Concerning the first he says Isa 48.12 13. I am the first I also am the last Mine hand also has laid the Foundation of the Earth and my right hand has spanned the Heavens As for the other these are his words Zech. 12.10 I will pour upon the House of David and upon the Inhabitants of Jerusalem the spirit of Grace and of Supplication and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced Q. What do you infer from this A. That the Messias is God which if he were not he could perform neither of these Works Q. Do you know any other Divine Properties attributed to the Messias A. Yes several viz. the Power to forgive sins Exod. 23.21 But who can forgive sins but God Therefore the Messias must be God Q. Being the Messias is God tell me then how many Gods are there A. There is but one God that is without doubt but there are more than one Person in the Deity Q. Prove this A. God speaks of himself in the Plural Gen. 1.26 Let us make man in our Image after our likeness Ch. 3.22 Behold the man is become as one of us Also Ch. 11.7 Let us go down Q. Perhaps God speaks of himself after the manner of earthly Princes A. No that is not his way Intending to declare the greatness of his Majesty he describes himself in the Singular viz. I am the Lord Jehovah I am the Almighty God Also it is against the Custom of the Oriental Princes Pharaoh and Nebuchadnezzar were wont to say I Pharaoh I Nebuchadnezzar besides the expression as one of us makes it evident that there are more than one Person intended Q. But it may be God speaks so in regard of the Angels A. That is Nonsence God wants neither their Counsel nor Assistance nor Approbation Moreover this would import the Creation of Man after the Angels Image which is plain absurdity and falshood Q. But do others speak of God after that manncr A. Yes for instance Moses Gen. 19.22 says The Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah Brimstone and Fire from the Lord out of Heaven Says Job Where is God my makers 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 David Job 35.10 Psal 149.2 Eccles 12.1 Isa 42.5 Let Israel rejoyce in those that made him 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Solomon Remember thy Creators 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Isaiah calls God the Explainers of Heaven 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Q. How many Persons are there in the Divine Essence A. There are three and those revealed by God in the Old Testament Q. Shew me the Trinity of Persons there A. Deut. 6.4 The Hebrew Text has it thus The Lord our God the Lord are one Q. Let me see how you make out there the Three Persons A. There is 1. The Lord. 2. Our God 3. The Lord again The first word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 means the First Person the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the Second and the last word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the Third Q. Who taught you to explain these words thus A. Not only the Original but the Context also where Moses stirs up his Auditors to hear him in these words Hear O Israel from whence it is clear that he intends to propose an especial Mystery of God viz. The Unity of the Three Persons Q. Do the Jews accept of this Explication A. Rabbi Simeon Ben Jochas in Zobar explains these words he partly Teaches That 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 signifies as much as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 they are one He adds also that here is a Mystery revealed by the Holy Ghost 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ad sciendum quod tres illi 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 sint unum to set forth that these three before-mentioned are one Q. Give more Proofs out of the Old Testament for the Trinity A. It 's said in Psal 45.8 Thy Throne O God is for ever and ever thou lovest Righteousness therefore O God thy God has anointed thee with the Oyl of gladness Here you find three Divine Persons 1. A Divine Person anointing 2. Another anointed And 3. The Oyl of Gladness by which is to be understood the Holy Ghost In Jer. 48. The Messias says I am the first I also am the last mine hand hath laid the Foundation of the Earth and my right hand has spanned the Heavens And now the Lord God has sent me and his Spirit Here are again three Divine Persons two sending the Lord and his Spirit and another Divine Person sent the first and the last the Maker of Heaven and Earth Moses in his Blessing regarding the Three Divine Persons repeated the Name of 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 three several times Numb 6.24 25 26. The Lord bless thee and keep thee The Lord make his face to shine upon thee and be gracious unto thee The Lord lift up his countenance upon thee and give thee Peace Again David says Psal 67.6 7. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 God our God shall bless us God shall