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A66530	The lying spirit and false aspertions turned home again, or, An answer to two reviling letters about the peoples right to tythes sent to the people call'd Quakers in the Vail of Bellvier by Clement Nedham, a Presbyterian, who writes himself, a farmer in the county of Leicester : wherein I have shew'd according to scriptures, what spirit it was that brought up tythes among the Christians, so call'd : and that those that brought them up since Christ put an end to them were not in their right senses, but were made drunk by drinking of that spirit of error that made them do they knew not what, and consequently their examples not to be followed : with an addition, shewing, that the impropriator hath less right to tythes then the poor or priest, if less can be : with a few words in love to all those that send their sons to those places called universities, with an intent to make them ministers : also a copy of a letter sent to G.N. in manuscript, wherein his unhansom and unchristian-like dealings may be seen : with a short postcript to the reader / by J.W. ...	Willsford, John.	1673 (1673)	Wing W2872; ESTC R40124	16,433	28

Neither do we find that this was practised any more He further demands VVhat Scripture Example we can shew that any man bought Lands chargeable with Tythes and Refused to pay them Answ It is not hard to guess from what spirit this Demand ariseth but in the Eternal Light it s seen to our Eyes to arise from that spirit that sleights us for sticking so close to the Scriptures I might ask him What Scripture Example he can shew that any man sold Land chargeable with Tythes under a Gospel-Dispensation Again seeing thou pleadest so much for Papists Laws whether dost thou own all to be Right that was brought up by the Papists yea or nay If nay then how or by what must we distinguish betwixt Right and Wrong Good and Evil seeing there is Danger of calling Good Evil and Evil Good and of putting Light for Darkness and Darkness for Light Answer this Question else stop thy Mouth forever There are some frivolous Demands in thy Book but being sufficiently answered by my Friend T. R. I shall pass them by desiring thee to take notice of the latter-end of thy last Letter thou sayest But if the Truth be not on my side in what I have formerly offered or may be offered by those of greater Vnderstanding then none of those Conclusions are applicable against you but must confessedly be returned upon me and those whose Cause I plead Answ The Truth is not on thy side for Christ is the Truth and I do not know that thou hast named either Christ or Scriptures in all thy first Letter only at last thou sayest Farewell in the Name of the Lord. Answ The name of the Lord is a Strong Tower the Righteous flee unto it and are safe but thou hast not fled unto it for Safety and Strength to mannage thy Design but on the contrary hast fled to Popish Authors and set up their Laws above Christ and Scripture and so hast manifested thy self to be more of Antichrist then of Christ So let thee and those whose Cause thou pleadest take thy Conclusions home unto your selves and according to thy words confess them your Dues for we are clear as before is proved Addition THere is a Sense upon my Spirit concerning some who have their Understandings so far opened as to see that Ministers of the Gospel ought not to receive Tythes but they cannot tell what to say to the Impropriators because they are become as Free Estates or Iay Possessions to them Answ Why truly Friends if I were free to pay Tythes I could rather pay them to the Priest or Poor then to the Impropriators my Reasons are Because they are wholely diverted from the use that ever they were given for For Mark When they were given in the Time of the Law they were given for the Poor Fatherlerless Widdow and Priest that there might not be a Beggar in Israel but being Ended in Christ there was Collection among the Saints for the Relief of such as stood in need And I believe they had never come up again had not that Midnight of Apostacy come up yet when they did come up again they were given for the Poor and Priest and for the Use of the Church so called so that I believe although the Gives of them were Blind and Dark in that Matter and their Example not to be followed yet it never was their Intent That they should be Bought and Sold or become as Lay Possessions Hence I conclude That no man hath Right to Receive TYTHES from Another but when they were Ended by Christ they became the Proper Right of the Donors as was the Rest of their Increase Postscript I Have a few words to say in Love to all those that send their Sons to those places called Universities with an Intent to make them Ministers First Whether they think they buy the Gift of God or nay If yea then are not they in the Gall of Bitterness that think that the Gift of God can be bought for Money Acts 8. Secondly If it be not the Gift of God then what is it Thirdly Whether they that Sell the Gift of God for Money are not as bad as Simon Magus the Sorcerer who thought it might be bought for Money And further Be it known unto you all The Lord will not have Ministers of your Choice but he will have Ministers of his own chusing and he will set up his School on the Top of all your Schools and Colledges namely the Teachings of his own Spirit in the Hearts of his People for he is as Able as ever he was to chuse poor Trades-men and to fill them with his Spirit Power and Wisdom and to send them forth to preach the Everlasting Gospel as ever he was though some may say Is it not the Carpentor's Son whose Father and Mother we know I might produce many Scriptures to prove that God and Christ often times chose such as were Unlearned and little esteemed in the Eyes of the World see the first of the Corinthians verse one and Acts four verse thirteen that no Flesh might glory in his Presence And now is the Lord fulfilling his Promises who said In the last days I will pour out of my Spirit upon all Flesh upon my Hand-Maids I will pour out in those dayes of my Spirit and they shall Prophesie I will put my Law in their inward Parts and write it in their Hearts Jeremiah 32. Joel 2. Act Therefore all ye that sleight the Lord's Work at this day which he is doing in and among his People betware lest that come upon you which is spoken in the Prophets Behold ye Despisers and wonder and perish I work a Work in your day a Work which ye shall in no wise believe though a Man declare it unto you A Copy of a Letter sent to CLEMENT NEDHAM Whereunto is added a short Postscript C. Nedham I Find Drawings in the Bowels of Love to write unto thee and desire thee that thou wouldst imploy thy Wisdom Strength ad Pretious Time in and for the Use and service of thy Creator and against Oppression that the poor People groan under even as the Children of Israel did under Pharoah's Task-Masters and not to spend it in and for the Use and Service of the Proud Priests and Impropriators Beast Whore and False Prophet except thou are able to prove They are of God and their Wages Right according to his Law lest thou provest a Servant to the Devil for he is the Root from whence all Evil springs and thou canst not serve two Masters But if thou wilt persist in Opposing the Truth and the Requirings of God's Spirit in the Hearts of his People be it known unto thee That New Jerusalem which is coming down from God out of Heaven prepared as a Bride adorned for her Husband which thou writest against and spendest thy pretious Time to oppose and callest her Light a Pretended Light will prove a Burdensom stone too heavy for thee to Overturn And

THE Lying Spirit AND FALSE ASPERTIONS Turned home again Or an Answer to two Reviling Letters about the Peoples Right to Tythes sent to the People call'd Quakers in the Vail of Bellvier by Clement Nedham a Presbyterian who writes himself A Farmer in the County of Leicester Wherein I have shew'd according to Scriptures what spirit it was that brought up Tythes among the Christians so call'd And that those that brought them up since Christ put an End to them were not in their Right Senses but were made Drunk by drinking of that spirit of error that made them do they knew not what and consequently their Examples not to be followed With an Addition shewing That the Impropriator hath less Right to Tythes then the Poor or Priest if less can be With a few Words in Love to all those that send their Sons to those Places called Vniversities with an Intent to make them Ministers Also a Copy of a Letter sent to G. N. in manuscript wherein his Unhansom and Unchristian-like Dealings may be seen With a short Postscript to the Reader By J. W. a Lover of Truth and all Men's Souls Whose outward Being is in the Vail of Bellvier and County of Leicester Wherefore the Lord said Forasmuch as this People draw near me with their Mouthes and with their Lips do Honour me but have removed their Hearts for from me and their Fear towards me is taught by the Precepts of Men therefore behold I will proceed to do a Marvelous Work amongst this People even a Marvelous Work and a Wonder For the Wisdom of their Wise Men shall perish and the Vnderstanding of their Prudent Men shall be hid For it is written I will destroy the Wisdom of the Wise and bring to nothing the Vnderstanding of the Prudent Isaiah 29.13 14 1 Cor. 1.19 Printed in the Year 1673. TO THE READER READER I Was not forward in meddling with this Giant who boasted and domineered over me bad it not been for the Truth 's sake I could have been silent but the Love that I bear to it constrains me to bear my Testimony though not with inticing words of Man's Wisdom against Deceit and Oppression And so I desire thee to mind the Inspiration of the Almighty for that gives an Understanding It is the Spirit that reveals the deep Things of God 2 Cor. 2. And as thou turnest thy Mind inwards to be acquainted with its Teachings it will let thee see the Way that a Wafaring Man though a Fool cannot err in and so thou wilt come to see the Rice Ground Bottom and Foundation of things and that is the Right Way to begin to build and not to build upon Popish Authors or to take Drunken Men for thy Example I mean such as were Drunk by drinking that spirit of Error that led from God into an Heap of Confusion which is Babylon And by the Spirit of Truth thou mayst see as thou mindst what it was that strove with the Old World before the outward Law was added which Law was added because of Transgression was to continue until the fulness of Time that God sent his Son a Light into the World to end the Types and Shadows Tythes and Offerings that that Law required So Reader I desire thee to take notice That Christ put an End to Tythes and who brought them up again in this following Treatise I hope thou mayst see even him whose Coming is after the Working of Satan with all Power Signs and Lying Wonders 2 Thes 2. Hast thou not heard of the Papists working Miracles Mark He had Power What Power may some say I answer Power to deceive and beguile by his Signs and Lying Wonders and then to make Laws for the Continuance and Upholding of that which he had gotten by Deceit And people when I speak of Babylon Antichrist or Beast I mean that spirit of Error that led from God for it hath several Names because of its several wayes of workings Satan hath many Wiles and so he hath many Names And there are but two Spirits in the Ground the Spirit of Truth and the spirit of Error and Christ is the Truth who hath many Names and Offices all which is to lead into a Holy Life but the spirit of Error leads into an Unholy Life so they may be known by their Workings in Man and Woman And Happy are all they that come to be redeemed from under the Power of Satan Beast and Antichrist in themselves for there they are while people live in Sin and there their Fall must be For Christ hath determined to bind the Strong Man armed and to cast him out of the House and to take the Possession himself And so people we are not speaking of the Fall of Kings and Rulers from their Thrones of Justice but of the Fall of the Beast Whore and Antichrist in Man and Woman and this will hurt none to have that destroyed which keeps from God And therefore I exhort all that love their own Souols to wait low in their Minds that they may feel Christ Jesus exercising his Offices in them which is to destroy the Works of the Devil and to bring in Everlasting Righteousness J. W. THE Lying Spirit AND FALSE ASPERTIONS Turned Home again OR An Answer to Two Reviling Letters about the Peoples Right to Tythes sent to the People call'd Quakers in the Vail of Bellvier by Clement Nedham a Presbyterian who writes himself A Farmer in the County of Leicester Friend Nedham ALthough thy Postscript be the last yet it concerns my first Letter sent to thee I might say something to thy Reviling Words in it but having written something to thee in a Letter and knowing it was the Practice of the Scribes and Pharisees and out-side Professors Joh. 7.49 to Revile the Children of Light and to count them such as knew not the Law at present I may pass them by only take notice of this by the way That if I had been so ignorant as in thy Eyes I seemed to be it had been thy place to have written or spoken something to me in particular that had been the best way for thee to have mannaged thy Design to have convinced me of my Error if in one I had been but thou hast directed thy Reviling Words to others and not a word to me in particular wherein thou hast manifested thy Folly and Ignorance in mannaging thy Design but it is like my Confidence offended thee yet I must tell thee I am as Confident as ever I was yea and more Confirmed for since thou didst write thy Reviling Pamphlets the Lord hath opened my Understanding more then before to see beyond thy Trash and Rome's Trumpery insomuch that I have Cause to say as Christ said Mat. 11.25 I thank thee O Father who hast hid these things from the VVise and Prudent and hast revealed them to Babes and Sucklings And in this is that Scripture fulfilled that saith All things work together for Good to them that

love God And as concerning thy new start-up Question which thou sayst I writ nothing at all unto Answer If the Mysteries of the Kingdom had not been hid from the Wise and Prudent in their own Eyes as in all Ages they were thou mightest have seen that I had written something to the Substance of thy Matter But the Blind cannot see nor the Deaf Adder hear although the Charmer charm never so wisely And further as concerning thy Question Christ himself did not alwayes answer the Questions that thy Brethren the Scribes and Pharisees Chief Priests and those who thought they had the Law on their sides asked him when they thought to enfnare him but sometimes he answered one Question by asking another Mark 11.29 and thou thy self hast seem'd to do so in thy Book And now whether thy Question about the People's Right to Tythes may not be answered with a Just Demand from thee What Right the People of thy Perswasion had to take away the Bishops Lands from them If thou sayest The Bishops had no Right to them because contrary to the Practice of the Bishops in the Primitive Times who were not to be Covetous nor given to Filthy Lucre 1 Tim. 3. The same say we by the Priests concerning Tythes And seeing thou hast made thy self so busie as few I think might worse have done I might proceed to ask thee What Right thou or the People of thy Perswasion had to Sell or Buy some men's Free-Lands And whether the King and his Laws have not been favourable to thee and some of thy Party And further concerning thy Question Do not those that buy Land buy every Part and Parcel with all that thereunto belongs And are they tyed by their Deeds to pay their Tenths yea or nay If nay how are they Thieves and Robbers for detaining that which they never came in Covenant with any to pay And as to the Intents of Every Buyer and Seller thou hast stretched too far For how knowest thou the Intents of those that sold or bought Land some Hundreds of years since further then their Deeds or Writings make mention And we performing our Covenants according to our Deeds and Leases are clear from thy salfe Aspertions I Have taken notice of thy second Letter and there I find that thou sleightest those thou countest to have much more Reason then I have as much or more then thou dost me in these words thou sayest Thou art to Thank that Author for thy Information of several Kings that made Laws for the Payment of Tythes To which thou art pleased to make Five Demands but being answered by T. R. I shall not need to meddle with them at present for my Intent is to speak to the Ground of the Matter and so I take notice of thy following words thou sayest Thou art still to thank the same Author for thy Information that King Steven by his Charter gave Tenths for the Pardon of his Sins and the like by Ralph Bishop of Chichester for the Health of his Soul and that Walter Clifford in the time of King John gave the Tenths of Hammersen for the Health of his Father's Soul And now for thy better Information first consider That Christ Jesus the pure Law-giver was the End of that Law that gave Tythes secondly consider what spirit was got up when those things above mentioned were done For Proof of the first I might preduce many Scriptures but I desire thee and thy Reader to take notice of a few and peruse them at your Leisures Romans 10.4 Galatians 3.10 11 12 13 19. Wherefore then serveth the Law It was added because of Transgression till the Seed should come to whom the Promise was made Further see Hebrews Chap. 7 8 9. And as to the second which is to shew what Spirit was got up when these things above mentioned were done consider what the Apostle saith Acts 20. he Exhorted the Elders of the Church To take heed unto themselves and to all the Flock over the which the Holy Ghost had made them Over-seers for he said That after his Departure grievous Wolves should enter in among them not sparing the Flock Also of your own selves said he shall Men arise speaking perverse things to draw away Disciples after them And in 2 Thes 2. he said The Mystery of Iniquity doth already work only he who now letteth will let until he be taken out of the way then shall that wicked one be revealed whom the Lord shall Comsume with the Spirit of his Mouth and destroy with the Brightness of his Coming So take notice the Apostle foretold of the coming up of the Mystery of Iniquity and of its being consumed and destroyed again by the Brightness of the Lord 's Coming In 1 Tim. 4. the Apostle spake of some that should depart from the Faith giving heed to Seducing Spirits and Doctrings of Devils forbidding to Marry and commanding to abstain from Meats And dost thou think the Apostle did not see the rise of the Papists or False Church when he spake these words Further Paul writ to Titus Not to give heed to Jewish Fables and Commandments of Men that turn from the Truth And was not Tythes a Jewish Type when ended by Christ And did not they that turned unto them turn from the Truth which would be a Denying Christ come in the Flesh Answer in Plaineness else would they have given them for the Health of their own Souls or their Fathers or for the Pardon of their Sins Also Jude spake of certain men that were crept in unawares so they were crept in then Wo unto them said he for they are gone in the way of Cain mark they were gone and run greedily after the Error of Balaam for Reward And John saw something that was not well in the Church of Asia and therefore he exhorted them To Repent and do their First Works mark their First Works and he exhorted some of them to their First Love And how often did Paul exhort the Church to stand fast fore-seeing the Danger of their being drawn aside Oh that people rightly saw the Drift of the holy Apostles in these things which was to keep them to the Faith once delivered to the Saints and to walk as they had them for an Example and not to take the Apostatized Christians for their Examples And how mightily did Paul strive to keep the Galatians from the Works of the Law And were or Tythes of Work of the Law and never in use amongst the Christians whilst they kept their First State See what Peter saith 2 Epist 2.1 2 3. I might produce many Scriptures to prove that the Apostles fore-saw a Falling away but see what John saith 2 Epist 2. Little Children it is the Last Times as ye have heard that Antichrist should come even now are there many Antichrists And is not that Antichrist that is contrary to Christ the Everlasting High Priest not made after the Law of a Carnal Commandment but after the Power