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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A96990	A vindication of W.P. from the erronious [sic] and false testimony of Thomas Budd: being in answer to a sheet of his, entituled, A testimony for truth, against error. / By Joseph Wyeth.	Wyeth, Joseph, 1663-1731.	1697 (1697)	Wing W3763; ESTC R186899	10,261	29

A VINDICATION OF W. P. FROM THE Erronious and False Testimony OF Thomas Budd BEING In Answer to a Sheet of his ENTITULED A Testimony for Truth against Error By Joseph Wyeth London Printed and Sold by T. Sowle next Door to the Meeting-house in VVhite-Hart-Court in Gracious-street and at the Bible in Leaden-hall-street near the Market 1697. A VINDICATION OF W. P. FROM THE Erronious and False Testimony OF T. BVDD c. HAving met with a Sheet Entituled A Testimony for Truth against Error Subscribed Thomas Budd in which he Charges W. P. with denying some of the Chief Principles of Christianity After Reading the Sheet I was very desirous to get those Books of W. P's mentioned by T. Budd that I might examine the Quotations from which he pretends to draw this Charge of Error accordingly I did with some difficulty get them and have Examined the Pages refer'd to by T. Budd and have just reason to be Amazed that after such picking leaving out and sometimes forging W. P's Adversaries Words for W. P's a Man should have so hard a Fore-head as to Entitule it A Testimony for Truth when in truth it is a Testimony of as great Villany as one Man can be capable of towards another and nothing but Malice and Apostacy could be the Parent of so Monstruous a Production which yet I know cannot at all influence those who know and impartially consider the different Caracters and Qualities of W. P. and T. Budd But to some who know them not otherwise than as this Erronious Testimony against Truth represents may not having the Books to examine take this Monster of a Draught for W. P's True Figure For the Information of such and now having the Books by me as also to do Justice to W. P. I have undertaken this wherein I shall do little more than to set down the places as they are quoted by T. Budd and then subjoyn the places as they are in W. P's Books which will be found sufficient to prove that W. P. do's not deny The Father the Word and the Holy Spirit to be God nor that Christ was wounded for our Transgressions and bore our Griefs nor deny that Jesus Christ was the Son of God that died at Jerusalem nor that we are Justified through the Righteousness of Christ nor that Jesus is the Messiah the Christ of God or the Resurrection of the Body nor Undervalue the Scriptures All which Blasphemy Heresie and Error he pretends to find in the Books following as they are Cited by him His First Quotation is out of Sandy Foundation p. 12 13 15. If God as the Scriptures Testifie hath never been declared or believed but as the Holy One then will it follow that God is not a Holy Three nor doth subsist in Three distinct or separate Holy Ones and since the Father is God the Son is God and the Spirit is God Then unless the Father Son and Spirit are Three distinct Nothings they must be Three distinct Substances and consequently Three distinct Gods Thus he Now to give some Light in this matter it may be convenient to give the Reader a Brief Account of the occasion of this Book and method which the Author W. P. has taken in the Writing of it As to the first viz. The occasion it was this Thomas Vincent in a Meeting of his said That the Quakers held Damnable Doctrines George Whitehead being present stood up and as it was his place willingly would have given the People an Information of our Principles which if Objected against he was ready to defend them by the Authority of Scripture and Reason which T. Vincent prevented and put the following Question Whether we owned one Godhead Subsisting in Three distinct and separate Persons This was the occasion of this Book next as to the method it is this W. P. refutes the the Doctrine built upon the fore-going Question first from Scripture next from Right Reason shewing many Irreligious and Irrational Consequences flowing from that Doctrine and all this intermix'd with many Informations and Cautions concerning it Now the two first Lines of T. Budd's Quotation are part of an Argument drawn from Scripture by W. P. against the Doctrine in the Quotation above and the rest of that Quotation is part of one of those Irreligious Consequences which W. P. shews in the Book before Cited to be the result of the same Doctrine But besides this abusive patching and setting down as W. P's Sentiment what W. P. sets down as an Irreligious Consequence T. B. does not come up to the Terms of Question which is concerning Three distinct and separate Persons Subsisting in one God If he can prove this from Scripture then he proves what W. P. hath denied But while T. Budd does only set down the Testimony of the Apostle viz. That the Father the Word and the Spirit are the Three that bear Record in Heaven and are One God He does not at all shew himself to believe the Question in the Terms W. P. denies it And for such Holy Three as is mentioned in Scripture which have none of the Terms W. P. opposes he hath sufficiently shewn his Belief thereof not only in the Confession of Faith hereafter mentioned but also in his Innocency with Her open Face and his Key And many of his Books which do at all border upon that Point of Faith This for T. Budd's first Charge His Second is The Denial of Christ's Satisfaction for Proof of which T. Budd hath made a Quotation out of the same Book viz. Sandy Foundation p. 16 18 21 22. W. P. saith The Justice offended being Infinite his Satisfaction ought to bear a proportion therewith which Jesus Christ as Man could never pay he being Finite and from a Finite Cause could not proceed an Infinite Effect Since Christ could not pay what was not his own it follows that in the payment of his own the Case still remains equally grievous since the Debt is not hereby absolved or forgiven but transfer'd only and by consequence we are no better provided for Salvation than before owing that now to the Son which was once owing to the Father It no way renders Men beholding or in the least obliged to God since by their Doctrine he would not have abated us nor did he Christ the least Farthing Hitherto T. Budd's Quotation but the Doctrine which W. P. does in the Pages before Cited oppose is mentioned by W. P. in p. 14. of Sandy Foundation and is in the Terms following Doctr. That Man having Transgressed the Righteous Law of God and so exposed to the Penalty of Eternal Wrath it 's altogether impossible for God to remit or forgive without a plenary Satisfaction and that there was no other way by which God could obtain Satisfaction or save Men then by Inflicting the Penalty of Infinite Wrath and Vengeance on Jesus Christ the Second Person in the Trinity who for Sins past present and to come hath wholly borne and paid it to

comes by Actual Righteousness and not Imputative There are Three more Conclusions which follow and which for brevity sake I omit willing only to recite so much as may take in all that T. Budd has here and there pick'd to make up his Quotation only next immediately after the Three Conclusions which I say I have left out there follows a short Confession of our Faith which it may be of Service to the Honest-minded to publish as also a Testimony against the Apostacy Hypocricy and Envy of T. Budd who could not but see it when he mangled that part of the Book as he thought for his Service It is in p. 149. VVe do believe only in one Holy God Almighty who is an Eternal Spirit the Creator of all Things And one Lord Jesus Christ his only Son and Express Image of his Substance who took upon him Flesh and was in the VVorld and in Life Doctrine Miracles Death Resurrection Ascension and Mediation perfectly did and does continue to do the Will of God to whose Holy Life Power Mediation and Blood we only ascribe our Sanctification Justification Redemption and perfect Salvation And we believe in one Holy Spirit that proceeds and breaths from the Father and the Son as the Life and Virtue of both the Father and the Son a measure of which is given to all to profit with and he that has One has all for those Three are One who is the Alpha and the Omega the First and the Last God over all Blessed for ever Amen T. Budd's Sixth Charge against VV. P. is The Denying the Messiah the Christ of God for which he Cites a Book Entituled The Christian Quaker written by G. VV. and W. P. against the Injurious Attempts of many Adversaries and it will stand against the weak though black Attempts of this Man who in this Quotation of his has with a hardned Face cut a Sentence a-sunder in the midst which I question whether any Spanish Inquisitor has yet done when he willingly raked in a Book for Heresie his Quotation is thus Chr. Quaker p. 96. Abraham saw my Day and Rejoyced They still harping upon that visible Body not Thirty Years Old Replied Thou art not yet Fifty and hast thou seen Abraham Taking that to be the Messiah the Christ of God and Saviour of the World he meant which they saw with their Carnal Eyes I shall now give the Quotation from the Book it self but am obliged to Recite the whole Paragraph the above Quotation being in the middle and the whole being so dependant upon every part that it cannot without some hurt to the meaning of the whole be separated it is thus Chr. Quaker p. 96. Before I conclude take this notable saying of Christ to the Jews and what may be collected from it to our purpose Before Abraham was I am Abraham saw my Day and Rejoyced John 8. 56 57 58. which affords us briefly thus much That though he was not so visibly come yet it was the very same HE that came about One Thousand Six Hundred Years ago who was with the Fathers of Old and that Abraham who Lived Nineteen Hundred Years before that outward Appearance saw him and his Day If this be not the import of the place I know none for the Jews not believing him to be the Messiah thought it high Persumption for him to compare with Abraham Art thou greater than our Father Abraham who is Dead and the Prophets are Dead Vnto which he answered that he might prove himself to be the true Messiah the Christ of God the foregoing part of this Sentence as also the explanatory Parenthesis T. B. cut off and begins his here Abraham saw my Day and rejoyced They still harped upon that Visible Body not Thirty-three Years Old replied Thou art not yet Fifty and hast thou seen Abraham Taking that to be the Messiah the Christ of God and Saviour of the World he meant which they saw with their Carnal Eyes To which he rejoyned with a Verily Verily I say unto you before Abraham was I am then took they up Stones to cast at him c. By all which it is most clear that unless our Adversaries will deny him that so spoke which yet T. Hicks 's Anti-Scriptural Opinion doth imply to be Christ who singled and distinguish'd himself as the Messiah the Christ of God and Saviour of the World from that Visible Body not Fifty Years Old indeed both Christ that spoke then must needs have been long before Abraham 's Time and that such Holy Ancients were not without a sight and prospect of him and the day of his Glorious Appearance or that most Signal Manifestation of himself in that Body prepared for that Great and Holy Purpose witness the exceeding Clear and Heavenly Prophecies that were as so many Fore-runners or Introductions of the Evangelical State This true Quotation does sufficiently shew W. P. to own and believe in the Messiah the Christ of God I come now to T. Budd's Seventh Charge viz. Christ the Son of the Virgin denied by W. P. to be the Seed of the Promise In this Charge T. Budd has hid his head he having made a Quotation but named no Book nor any Page where his I doubt not false Quotation may be found therefore I pass it by without notice T. Budd's Eighth Charge is The Resurrection of the Body denied by W. P. The Book he quotes is W. P 's Rejoynder to John Faldo p. 369 370. his Quotation runs thus W. P. saith But suppose J. F 's Relative it to hold I do deny that this Text viz. It is Sown a Natural Body it is Raised a Spiritual Body is concerned in the Resurrection of Man's Carnal Body at all I say this doth not concern the Resurrection of Carnal Bodies but the two States of Men under the first and Second Adam In this as in the former he has plaid the Inquisitor taking here and there a Line as best liked him only his pretence may be more fairly made for clipping this than any of the former for they were all English but here is a little Greek and Latin yet of the English he has not taken all he ought and might have done I will Recite the two Paragraphs out of which he has pillaged his Quotation The Greek Text is first set down and then the Latin Translation it runs thus 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 1 Cor. 15. 44. Seritur Corpus animale resuscitatur corpus spirituale i. e. A Natural Body is Sown a Spiritual Body is Raised That is They lay down a Natural and take up a Spiritual Body or in lieu of a Natural receive a Spiritual Body not that the Natural Body shall be Transubstantiated into a Spiritual Body or that admitting of such an exchange that the Spiritual is the same Numerical Body that was the Natural for so the Natural and Spiritual Body would be one and the same but suppose J. Faldo 's Relative It to hold I do utterly deny that this