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A54742	Proteus redivivus, or, The turner of Turners-Hall truly represented and the abuses and falsehoods of George Keith's fourth narrative, so far as they concern the author, examin'd and detected / by Daniel Phillips.	Phillips, Daniel, d. 1748.	1700 (1700)	Wing P2063; ESTC R32295	31,113	43

is Equal with God or supply the Deficiency with the Addition of hath what and it will run thus He that hath the same Spirit that raised up Jesus Christ hath what is Equal with God I am induced to imagine that there rather is a Deficiency than a Redundancy because the Book is very ill Printed and I observe there are several Words omitted in it to make the Discourse Sense in the Line precedent to this is a Quotation out of the Scriptures in which there is a word omitted which could not be designedly because it doth not any ways alter the Sense of the Text that G. Fox attributes an Equality with God to nothing in Man but to the Holy Spirit is obvious to any unbiassed Person that will attentively read Saul's Errand p. 5. and duly consider the drift of his Discourse in this or any other of his Books look back to p. 5. of the same Treatise and there ex professo he answereth the same Objection He being then accused by the Lancashire Petition that he professed and avowed that he was Equal with God His own Answer there is It was not so spoken that G. F. was equal with God but that the Father and the Son is One. Six Lines under this G. F. saith The same Spirit where it is is equal with God And in p. 10. he repeats again almost the same words near the foot of that Page Being accused of the same thing i. e. That he was equal with God by one C. Wade His Answer was * Great Mystery p. 248. All that have the Son and the Holy Ghost have that which is equal in Power and Glory with the Father And by the Text of Scripture cited by G. F. in the Margin and these Quotations out of his own Writings it is undeniable that he attributed Equality solely to the Spirit of God and Christ in Man and not to any thing in Man simply considered as Man without the Indwelling of the Holy Ghost They that have been concerned in Printing will not think it impossible for an Error to happen in a Book the Printed Errata's are an undeniable Witness thereof either from the unfairness of the Copy or from the heedlesness of the Corrector especially in the absence of the Author and it is not unknown to many that G. F. was generally in Prison or in the Country when his Books were a Printing I see no occasion to deny that some of our Writings may be Elliptical seeing the Scriptures are also under the same Predicament if we may credit Bishop Kidder in his Demonstration of the Messias * Part II. p. 129. where he produces some Quotations out of the Holy Scriptures where he saith the word only is vertually included tho' not verbally express'd If the Quakers have in like manner in some places omitted the word only I hope they are not guilty of an unpardonable Error Neither is a Book to be rejected if I were to give in my Verdict because there may be some Difficulties or seeming Inconsistencies in it Where is that Author even amongst the Learned Rabbies of this Age that hath so Clear and so Logical a Head as to be able to word his matter so nicely that a Critick cannot observe a Flaw in his Writings If they that have all the advantages of Education are liable to have their words wrested to a Sense they never Dream'd of who then can imagine that the Illiterate Man's Sayings will be exempted from the like Inconveniencies Are the Scriptures which by all Christians are allowed to be dictated by the eternal Spirit totally free from Difficulties or seeming Inconsistencies For deciding this Matter Let us hear what the Learned Bishop Kidder saith * Demon. Mes P. II. p. 129. They are very weak and foolish Men who will renounce the whole Religion because there are some things said or taught in it which they are not able to comprehend or give an account of There are many Difficulties in the Old Testament and seeming Contradictions and yet both the Jews and Christians do with great Reason receive those Books with great Veneration It were a very casie thing to perplex a learned Jew with many Difficulties to be found in the Books of Moses of Samuel the Kings and Chronicles but he will not therefore doubt of the whole because he is not able to give a clear account of those difficult Passages which are found therein What he saith here of the Old he grants the same of the New Testament That lately common tho' in my Opinion silly Objection i. e. That I may see cause otherwise to word the Matter and yet my intention be the same Were they only illiterate Creatures that Objected this as an Heretical saying against the Quakers I should not be surprized at it but for Men of Letters who have been Educated at the Universities as most of the Ministers of the National Church have been to recite this as a Notorious Crime in them is a sign of a disingenuous Nature if they are found tardy in the same thing G. K. to expose the Quakers or Himself in his late Broad Sheet Entituled A Serious Call to the Quakers c. under the head of Vile and Monstrous Doctrines Principles and Uncharitable Sayings hath cited this saying of G. W. viz. * Count. Conv. p. 12. I may see cause otherwise to word the Mat and yet my Intention be the same Is this a Vile and Monstrous Doctrine Is this a Vile and Monstrous Principle or an Uncharitable saying Under which of these three Heads to reduce it I do confess I am at a loss and if G. K. would so far oblige me as to tell me under which of them it is to be placed I shall acknowledge it as some part of a Satisfaction for telling his Auditory at Turner's Hall That I was a Fool. A few Lines under this Citation G. K. it may be fearing his single affirmation would not be Credited borrows the Names of Three Doctors and Five Masters of Arts of the Church of England so called to Co-attest the Truth of this and some other Citations I am satisfied the Quakers will never see Cause to retract this saying of G. W. viz. I may see cause otherwise to word the Matter and yet my intention be the same if wording a Subject differently is an Antichristian act how Guilty then are your School-Masters c. who daily teach their Scholars not to use the same Term or reiterate the same Phrase in any Epistle Theme Copy of Verses or Declamation they Compose but as often as they are barren of Synonymous Terms or Phrases to fertilize their Mind they are order'd to have recourse to Gradus ad Parnassum Winchester Phrases c. which are Books Composed only for that intent If these Treatises are Pernicious to the Christian Religion let them be exiled the Schools and let those that presume to Print them be Excommunicated But should we view G. K's Writings or these

False Notions of Philosophy destroyed their Faith and hindered them to believe that necessary and Fundamental Article of the Christian Faith that Christ's Body that he had on Earth is the same in Substance it was in Heaven for if it is not the same in Substance it is in no respect the same Obs We are not of the Opinion of a great Man among the Romans who said If they had been deprived of Aristotle's Philosophy they should have wanted several Articles of their Faith We do not esteem Heathenish Philosophy Essential to our Religion neither do we matter how Ignorant we are in that our principal Care being to make our Calling and Election sure That the Quakers Ignorance and false Notions of Philosophy destroyed their Faith G. K. dogmatically asserteth but how doth he prove it Why he saith They do not believe that Christ's Body that he had on Earth is the same in Substance it was in Heaven How doth he make out that the Sameness of a Spiritual Body which was once a Natural Body consists only in its Substance may not his ipse dixit when supported with a great Assurance be credited Then he hath another notable Argument which is reserved till last and probably as he thinks the most conclusive viz. If it be not the same in Substance it is in no respect the same How precarious is this Fundamental Article of the Christian Faith as G. K. terms it if it hath no better a Foundation than an If to support it I have two Queries to propose to G. K. on this Head to which I shall expect his Answer when he thinks fit to reply First I desire him to demonstrate Wherein the Sameness of a Natural Body doth consist Because if he cannot demonstrate wherein that consists I shall give little heed to what he magisterially asserteth concerning the Identity of a Spiritual Body Secondly Whether he doth apply the Term Substance to God finite Spirits and Body in the same or different Significations If it stands for the same Idea when it is predicated of so different Subjects Whether it will not follow that God Spirits and Body agree in the same common name of Substance Which in my Opinion is a very odd Doctrine But if he saith it stands for three different Idea's for one as God is said to be a Substance for another as an Angel is said to be a Substance and for a third as Matter is called a Substance Then I shall desire him to make known how we may distinguish these several Kinds of Substances because without knowing what precise Idea's Substance stands for it is impossible to discourse about it intelligibly Whatever G. K. and his Associates falsely insinuate the Quakers sincerely believe that the same Jesus Christ which died without the Gates of Jerusalem is risen from the Dead and ascended into Heaven from whence he will at the last day come with Glory and Majesty and Judge the Living and the Dead according to their Deeds done in the Body The Substance of this I told G. K. at Turners-Hall was my Faith To this he replied Thou art no more a Quaker than I am to say Thee and Thou and not to pull off the Hat makes a Quaker This Passage I do not find in his Narrative whether it was omitted designedly or accidentally he is best able to inform the Querist We likewise believe the Resurrection of the Dead both of the Just and of the Unjust tho' we do not positively determine what Qualities c. are altered or what remains the same when a Natural Body is changed into a Spiritual Body therefore we determine nothing magisterially concerning the Change the Resurrection Body shall receive at the Sound of the last Trumpet but what the Holy Ghost hath been pleased to reveal in the Scriptures viz. That this Corruptible shall put on Incorruption that this Mortal shall put on Immortality How great an Alteration there is in a Corruptible Body when it hath put on Incorruption or in a Mortal Body when it hath put on Immortality I am not ashamed to acknowledge my Ignorance therein With what Body shall the Dead arise was a Query in the Apostle Paul's time What Answer he gave the curious Inquirer then may be seen 1 Cor. 15.36 c. and may also serve G. K. now 1 Cor. 15.36 c. Thou Fool that which thou sowest is not quickened except it die And that which thou sowest thou sowest not that body that shall be but bear grain it may chance of Wheat or of some other grain But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him An Answer that in my Opinion should deter all Christians from determining any thing Dogmatically wherein the Sameness of the Resurrection Body doth or doth not consist conceiving that we should rest satisfied in what the Scriptures say on this subject which is That the Dead shall arise In this Chapter the Apostle discourseth very largely concerning the Resurrection of the Dead 1 Cor. 15. yet seemeth very cautious here in wording his matter about it neither in this Chapter nor in any other place of his Writings affirming In totidem terminis the Resurrection of the Same Body But where he speaks of the Resurrection he doth not say of the dead bodies but simply of the Dead as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the Resurrection of the Dead 1 Cor. 15.13 not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the Resurrection of the Bodies of the Dead 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Ver. 16. Ver. 18. Ver. 22. if the Dead are not risen 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 they that sleep 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 all shall be made alive Here is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 two Adjectives and an Article all three of the Masculine Gender if they had any reference to 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Bodies they must have been of the Neuter whereby it demonstratively follows the Apostle did not predicate these Terms of Bodies neither do I find in any place of my Bible in express words the Resurrection of the Same Body affirmed It hath always been our principal Concern to word our Discourses especially when we speak of the Principles of our Faith as much as may be in Scripture-Terms if others did the like we are inclined to believe there would be more Love and Unity amongst the Professors of Christianity than now there are We think it a great piece of Presumption and Arrogance in any Mortal Dictator-like positively to determine wherein the Sameness of a Natural Body when it is changed into a Spiritual Body doth and wherein it doth not consist As G. K. confidently affirmeth that * P. 93. the Change was not in Substance but in Accidents For saith he Take away the Substance of any thing and no Accidents can remain of any thing Suppose I should say Take away all the