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A93769 Marginall antidotes, to be affixed over against the lines of R.H. and E.B. their pamphlet, entituled, The rebukes of a reviler. Written and prescribed by John Stalham of Terling. Stalham, John, d. 1681. 1657 (1657) Wing S5185; Thomason E926_3; ESTC R207582 11,917 15

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of the Lord amongst the Colossians Because he is no Jesuite nor one that would be wise above what is written Ib. Why doth he not read to his people that which was written to the Laodiceans Paul speaks not of any Epistle that himself or any other appointed as Pen men of Scripture did write to the Laodiceans but of one sent from Laodicea Let the deluded read Colos 4.16 once more Pag. 27. We know John's Testimony is true Joh. 21.25 John meaneth nor that there was any substantial truth necessary to be known to salvation which is not revealed in the written Word but that the Spirit ordered the copious mysteries of the Gospel with respect unto our infirmitie to be contracted within a narrow compass of lines R. H. in this and former pag. doth but murmure and object as the popish Rhemists The Hereticks will needs have all in Scripture Pag. 28. Working all their works in them and for them according to the Scriptures Agreed in true Scripture-sens Ibid. See if the sword of the Spirit was ever in the Divel's mouth The Divel takes up the sword without the Spirits aim and edge Pag. 29. By this Scripture Prov. 22.19 20 21. the Lord is made the ground of faith and not the letter See the true explanation of this Scripture in my 32 page Page 31. He here adding his own c. R. F. sure meaneth what he speaks of viz. Every mans light and this he saith is pure Can it bee pure and not purifie and renew Ib. We never have said that every man's judgment is renewed with the light What then is that which G. F. hath prompted to his Novices in his Catechism pag. 22. which light speaking of every man's light if owned gives them the knowledge of the glory of God and brings them to true judgment Ib. Pag. 32. 2 Pet. 1.20 To this J. S. adds not heart-prophesie nor breast-prophesie Arising and residing onely in the mind but written down in books c. J. S. added also As the Apostle excludes not heart-prophesie so he includes expresly Scripture-prophesie Ibid. The Apostle did not bid them wait till the Day-star did arise in the Scriptures No but till the Day-star did arise in their minds by the reading and heeding of the Scriptures that 's his plain meaning Pag. 33. And in another translation saith that he is the express figure of the Fathers substance The Popish English Rhemists Ib. Till he find the word three Persons and Trinity in the Scriptures let him own his own rule to judge him to be no messenger sent by God's Spirit If we find the word ●●e son in one place and the word Three in another where Father Word and Spirit are spoken of it is enough to justifie the use of the word Trinity and to prove the thing Ib. Mark this A person dwell in the Saints not personally No not so as to make the Holy Spirit and a Saint one person doth he dwell but mystically as in his spiritual Temple Pag. 34. Saying that the Godhead-light is not the Redemption-light Objectively so called not Subjectively that is light or knowledge given to every man about the God-head Pag. 35. As God is so is his light and so is his Godhead not created c. God's own essential light is uncreated and his very nature The light that Adam was qualified with before the Fall and which every man as a man hath a spark of since the Fall was and is given from the Creation and by the things that are made Read Rom. 1.20 and believe Ibid. In page 64. saying Light without Scripture is no light i. e. Besides or not according to Scripture as is explained in that page Ibid. Was the saving light made by that wich was written I never said made but made known it is by the Scripture and there to be found Page 36. As page 68. he saith That God was and is the Word according to Joh 1.1 I said not so nor is it so exprest Joh. 1.1 But the Word was and is God yet God the Father is not the Word Ib. In page 70. saith Christ is more in the Scriptures then in the Saints which is false There is more of Christs purity in the Scriptures then in the Saints yet is he greater then the Saints and the Scriptures also Ibid. In pag. 73. he saith Christ speaking in the Scripture saveth by the Scripture which is false c. Christ saveth by his life and grace meritoriously and efficaciously by the Scripture declaratively through faith giv'n as a means of our application of him All this witness is true Page 37. Neither is there such a word written in the Bible that say men is saved by Scriptures Read Acts 11.14 with Acts 26.22 and understand Ibid. Doth that light of Scripture c. darken mens minds Yes by accident as the Sun dazleth and dimmeth weak eies but of it self and from the Spirit it enlightneth mens dark understandings Ib. He saith 75 page Gospel-light never entered never shined into mens hearts i. e. By the power product of nature read my 75 page to this effect Ib. To this let all take notice and consider whether of these two Contraries they are to believe the one saying God shineth in their hearts by Gospel-light and the other saith It never entred into mens hearts Both are to be believed although Paradoxes to carnal reason Pag. 38. Priest J. Stelham c. Or what you will call him Ibid. The Scripture speakes of no such distinction as of a Moral Law c. And Ceremoniall c. Gross ignorance or wilful blindnesse Pag. 39 But I say that Covenant in which Adam was c. he stood in that and by that c. But you know not what to call it whether that of works or Christ's of grace Ibid. He speaks of three Covenants not so see my 90 p. Pag. 40. I say that there is but two Covenants spoken of in Scripture as the Apostle to the Hebrews In that he saith a new covenant he maketh the first old These mentioned Heb. 8. last are but two different Administrations of one and the same Covenant of grace the one antiquated and out of date the other in force see my 91. page Ibid. That which said do this and live promised life and mention'd Christ J. Nayler did not so understand it See my 104. page Ibid. And such denyed which speake of a Covenant that mentions nothing of a Saviour and that to be the Rule of true believers The morall Law or decalogue in it's Rigour and as a covenant of works formally is not a believers rule but materially or in respect of good things and evill things forbidden therein It is Christ's rule to every true Believer and none of his Commandements are grievous to the Regenerate heart and part Pag. 41. The more a soul is sanctified the more he sees a Mote to be a Mote and a Beam to be a Beam Yet he sees so much in his Motes which
may they beg their bread or perish for want This man may as well prove a fals Prophet as false Teacher Pag. 57. If he have not the same Call by the same Spirit as the Apostles had he is no Minister of Christ Are all Apostles or is this man blinded with Pag. 58. God promised to teach his people himself and this man holds forth that he intended it not c. He intended it not onely by an immediate way God teacheth his people himself when he teacheth them by the Ministry of men of his sending Mat. 23.24 Pag. 58. Which Spirit is immediate He comes immediately from the Father and the Son yet gives out himself ordinarily and onely by means of his own appointment Pag. 59. He separates betwixt the words and the voice or breath By voice Joh. 5.37 is not meant breath or Spirit but what you read of Deut. 4 12. Mat. 3. last 17.5.2 Pet. 1.18 Christ distinguisheth between God's written Word and his immediate voice from heaven and yet divides not his Spirit and Breath from either His Word is not his Spirit yet his Spirit is in his Word his voice is not his breath and yet it is not without it Pag. 60. Waste Paper Pag. 61. As if there were two righteousnesses of Christ Yes as well as two natures Ibid. The righteousness of Christ is but one by which all the Saints are justified More truly said then you are aware of Ibid. Acts of holiness c. this is a righteousness of ours saith he Yes in thematter of justification not to be admitted Ibid. Let men see his ignorance Blind men Ibid. Though it be wrought by the strength of Christ in us yet as to justification Paul he saith would not be sound in it This mark again Reader canst thou see any thing here but ignorance The blinded Reader he must needs be whose eies the Lord open then he may see a mysterie of godlinesse in our doctrine and a mysterie of iniquitie in yours Ibid. Mark again What was the converting of many hundred of souls by Paul and many other works of God wrought by him but dung and loss so J.S. holds forth i.e. in the matter of Justification this is ignorance indeed c. None but your Ignoramus's will believe you Ib. The Question is what this honour is that he calls civil When you com to you selvs you will understand it Pag. 63. Neither Major nor minor proved They were proved before in the whole discourse about swearing from pag. 235. to 241. Ibid. They that charge Christ and the Apostles with contradicting Scripture are enemies to God c. but J.S. hath done so ergo When you prove your minor your conclusion may be true Ibid. He charges us that we contradict our selvs which accusation we bear with as much patience as we do his former That is none at all that is visible in your writings Pag. 64. These things I leave with the Reader Wise and intelligent let him be and not one of your Novices Ibid. To deny Matthew Mark Luke and Johns declarations of the Gospel to be Gospel is no denial of the Scripture You neither know what you deny nor what you affirm but go to School in time to Mark 1.1 2. and know what that meaneth Pag. 65. rightly paged The example of Abrahams servant is nothing c. It is somthing to prove my servant may and cought to call me as I am his Master Ibid J.N. doth not say the Letter is the Believers witnesse Where learnt J.N. that the believers witnesse is in himself but from the Scripture see my 245 246 pages Ibid. Joh. 5.39 Doth say the Scripture testifieth of him but it doth not say that he is revealed in the Scripture c. What difference is there between testifying and revealing in this case especially You and your whole sect love to contend about words Pag. 66. The Apostles of Christ did not preach what they had gathered from Scripture Go learn what that Sermon of Paul means Act. 13. and whence he had his Quotations verf. 18 c. vers 22 33 34 35 vers 40. Ibid. In the next he will be proved a false Prophet When the Scripture is found false from whence I preach then I shall be found a false Prophet Ibid. That E.B. compiled a book out of Scripture-Collections is false I supposed you would pretend to it at least who affixe above a hundred Texrs of Scripture to your warning to Under-Barrow Did the Spirit bring every Chapter and Verse to mind and did you read none of the Quorations before vou wrote them Did the Spirit teach you to misapply them Ibid. Neither is this selfe Contradiction to aske which of the Saints had witnesse of their soules union to seek in the Letter and yet to affirme the Spirit opens and brings that which is spoken to remembrance The contradiction is discovered in my 253.254 pag. Pag. 67. Let J.S. first answer the Quere in plainnesse which is an honest Quere The Quere not over honest while put forth in disparagement of the Scriptures was plainly answered in my first Book to this effect The witnesse of a souls union is not in the Letter onely but also in the Counter-pane written in a believers heart See contradictions of Quakers pag. 21. Ibid. Who saith the Spirit is in the Letter See how cleared in the Reviler rebuked page 4. and 254. Ibid. He hath also slandered Christ to be imperfectly holy Christ was none of the Pen-men nor are the Secretaries of the Holy Ghost slandered if judged inferiour in wisedom and holiness to what they wrote Pag. 68. And though we say the Saints teacher cannot be removed into a corner as saith the Scripture and that the Saints will find their Teacher as they lye in their beds both these are true The Scripture saith not cannot but shall not see Isai 30.20 speaking of the teaching Levites Prophets and men of God But if your Saints Teacher cannot but be publicke how will you find him in so private a place as your beds Pag. 69. Rightly Paged Undervaluing words of the pure light of Christ Ibid. It is no contradiction to say that every man is lightned by Christ with the true light * True saving light turns men out of their naturall condition Act. 26.18 and yet to say some men are living in a naturall condition But comparatively in respect of Christ himselfe and Gospel-saving-light Pag. 69. He that lighteth every man c. Is not base beggerly scraps as J.S. it is Learn I beseech you at last to distinguish between the Light-given and the Light-Giver Pag. 70. I would know of him where the Gospel works if not in men's Consciences Albeit Gospel-conviction is feated in the Conscience yet it works about the conviction which ariseth meerly from a naturall Conscience as such see my 266. pag. Ibid. He that can understand that Scripture John 1.5 Shall see the truth c. Whether you understand it or no
let the judicious Reader observ by the context opened in my 54. page Ibid. The rule of the Spirit of God is above the Scripture Asmuch as to say he Scripture is above the Scripture But the naked truth is the spirit of God ruleth by the Scriptures He is above his Rule but the Saints even as such are under it Pag. 71. Let him charge them that are guilty sc for putting off that for redemption light which is but old-creation light That is R.H. and E.B. with men of their deluded and deluding perswasion Ibid. His whole Section I leave to be read in his Book See my 276. p. I understand not this nonsence Ibid. Neither did we ever affirme that Christ is not in the Reprobate and so is not in all Ibid. Neither do we concerning Justification contradict our selves You must take their word for it who will not or cannot try their Doctrines by the Scripture Touch-stone and compare one of their sayings with another Ibid. What would J.S. have said of John who told them they needed no man to teach them The Apostles meaning 1. Jo● 2.27 is vindicated from these men and cleared in my 41. pag. Pag. 74. Though God spake by G.F. to him viz. E. Bor. ough this doth not contradict the teaching of the Sporit of God It clearly sheweth that E.B. had not all by the immediate teaching of the Spirit and still your contradiction holds as I have demonstrated it in my 280.281 pages or if you 'l say and it be your meaning that God teacheth mediately here to bring us to immediate teachings altogether in Heaven and that outward teaching leades to inward and inward to outward while we are here it will argue ingenuity a concession of truth and an eating of former clashing expressions Pag. 73. Rightly paged E.B. doth never say that the light of Christ is natur all and carnall but the light of man Who gave man that light Answer E.B. for your self and others Ib. E.B. Speaks of mans light and J.S. foolishly opposeth him c. Who I ask again gaveman that light Ibid. Neither Christ nor his blood is in Scripture This is your ignorant Blasphemy Ibid. Let it be moved Where and whither If it be moved at the Mouth by Alder-gate let a room be built for it in the Land of Shinar Pag. 74. He saith the Scripture was given by the Spirit for a Rule this we desire a proof of by plain Scripture till then we deny it If any man wil be ignorant and obstinate Let him be ignorant and Obstinate Ib. He saith the Spirit gives out himself by Scripture and yet he saith he never said the Scripture did give the Spirit and this is an absolute contradiction In your apprehension who knew not what a contradiction is and what it is not Ib He saith our possessing perfection and Quaking after Moses example cross shins on the other Professing I said yet I will hold in your languager much more Ibid. But wherein he doth not shew The thing shews it selfe see my first Book page 25. Pag. 75. And yet doth own Prayer in the Spirit and who are moved by the Spirit morning or evening or at meales or otherwise The Spirit moveth to payer as to each other duty by the Scripture-Rule and according to it 1. Thes 17.18 Tim. 4.4 Act. 27.35 Rom 14.6 Pag. 76. And this is truth let J.S. gather what he can from it J.S. gathers that you would engrosse the Spirit to your selves which if it breath in your praiers well hee is sure it breaths not in your Writings Ib. Speaking that which is not in the Spirit we check You check the Spirit in others and grieve the Spirit where it is in any of your selves Page 77. According to the light of Christ Jesus in every man's conscience which is but one in all This helps your nonsence page 71. rightly paged but contradicts what was there delivered Christ is not in the Reprobate Ibid. By these words No Law must be concerning Religion we do not mean that we should not have a Law according to Religion but no Law to limit to or from this or that manner of Religion It appears by this you do not alwaies mean as you speak but it were well your meanings were better then your sayings now learn to write and speak better and we shall the better judg of your meanings Pag. 78. Wee are not they that would have any Magistrates to bind themselves from striking at offenders who are truly able to judge of offences Agreed and then all in my Epistle Dedicatorie charged with lies slanders presumption arrogancy flattery and cruelty will stand good against your charge Ibid. and Pag. 79. As for the rest of his Book sc the Appendiz c. His lyes I do deny from first to 8. Animadversion Here is all along but your nay against my yea Whereof I give too home proof for your patience to bear it Let my Appendix be viewed and reviewed Pag. 79. So that from the first of his Book to his last his whole work is borne witnesse against not to be of God but of the Devill If R H. as it seems by the posture of letters listed himselfe to fight in the Front of the Pamphlet and E.B. in the Rear although they toss and racket my name up and down as a Tennis-ball from the beginning to the end yet they do but beat the Aire and strike at themselves and hurt not me For pag. 50. one saith he pursues me not in every Argument the other saith From the first of my Book to the last my whole work is born witnesse against How these things accord let the Reader judg Now R.H. and E.B. if you can receive the censure of a discerning Christian of no inferiour rank it was this All the reason of this your Book may be put into an Egge-shell and for my part I have no more taste of it except in such few passages where you are reduced to a better explication of your minds then of the white of an Egge Pag. 80 81 82 83. Ah! J.S. against whom hast thou set thy self c To all these four last pages with many other passages in the book it is the King of Heavens commandement Prov. 26.4 not to answer you a word FINIS