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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A65843	A brief treatise on the truths behalf in discovery of falshoods which are dispersed abroad in two papers of Richard Baxters ... the one intituled One sheet for the ministry, the other A second sheet for the ministry, and he hath pretended the one against malignants among whom he hath numbred them called Quakers and uttered forth his envy in several lies and revilings against that people called Quakers, whose known integrity shall stand a witness against all such deceivers and revilers as he is proved to be perpetually ... / by George Whitehead.	Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723.	1658 (1658)	Wing W1897; ESTC R26353	18,488	26

Titus had power to ordain Elders Acts 14. 23. Titus 1. but this was in the Church whom Christ presented blameless and fitted for himself Ephs. 5. 26 27. and Chr●st had fitted them that were Elders Bishops or Deacons for himself before they were allowed of for their Office by the Apostles who were first to be tryed and then they were to Minister now that which presented them blameless was the gift of God and they had the gift revealed in them and a Bishop and a Decon must be blameless not given to wine no striker not greedy of filthy Lucre but patient not a brawler not covetous and apt to teach and so must Elders for they were Bishops Titus 1. 5 6. 7. Priest Now seeing this said priest professeth the Ministry in England to be of this sort for he saith in page the tenth for qualifications they have first competent knowledge secondly and utterance thirdly and godliness Answ. That 's all false For first how can they have competent knowledge seeing that they deny revelation and immediate teaching when as Christ saith no man knowes the father but the Son and he to whom the Son will reveal him Mat. 11. here they that denies revelation knowes neither the father nor the Son Let Christs own words stand a witness against this lying Priest and the rest of them Secondly true utterance they are far from seeing that they deny immediate teaching by the spirit for true utterance was a gift of the Spirit the Saints spoke as the spirit gave them utterance and the spirit word of God was revealed in Timothy Titus who were owned for Ministers by the Apostles Timothy had the gift of God in him and unfeigned faith in him and that gift was given by Prophesie with the laying on of the hands of the company of Elders as it is in some translations recorded now his call was not like the call of these Priests of England for the Prophefies that went on Timothy they came not by the will of man neither was the laying on of Elders hands according to mans will So that though the Priests would put themselves in number with Timothy and the Elders yet we find them shut out from their call and Ministry for we never understood that they that set up these priests were called as Peter or Paul or the Elders who had power to lay on the hands that the holy Ghost fell on the party on whom they laid on their hands and thus much will some of the Priests confess which may be to the shame of him that here professeth himself to be called as Timothy was And further this man aforesaid hath confessed that the Ministers for whom he pleads are brought up at the Universities as he calls them where they have bestowed labour and cost to bring them up to the Ministery which might have fitted them for a more gainful trade so that here their education is not to the true Ministry but to a trade but Timothy and Titus and the elders in the true Churches on whom the Apostle laid hands did not make a trade on their Ministry nor on the Scripture though they knew the Scriptures and did preach the word of God according to the Scriptures by the gift of God in them and who was to do the work of Evangelists whom Christ had endued with gifts from above neither was the holy Ghost to be bought with mony though it fell on several who believed when the Apostles laid their hands on them for he and his mony was to perish who would have bought the holy Ghost with mony Acts 8. 19. 20. So all the cost that the priests bestowes at Oxford or Cambridge it doth but purchase them a trade and that a deceitful one too it cannot purchase the holy Ghost nor the gifts of the spirit which Bishops Elders and Deacons in the true Churches were indued and fitted with but not made Ministers at Schools nor by the will of man as the priests are now Thirdly Neither are they in godlinesse nor qualified as a true Bishop or a Deacon or Elder seeing that the Priests in England are covetous greedy of filthy lucre and many of them given to wine and envious men and brawlers and novices as many in this nation can witness but the true Elders were not such and the man of God was to flee from the desire of mony and they that went in the error of Balaam for reward and in the way of Cain to envy and through covetousnesse made merchandise of people were ungodly men ordained of old for condemnation Jude 11. 2 Pet. 2. Therefore the Priests being ignorant of Revelation immediate teaching from God and being out of the true knowledge utterance and godliness so strangers to the heavenly gift they are not fit to teach but are deceivers shut out from among the number of the true Elders of Christ for the ungodly shall not be numbered with the seed of the righteous but we look at the life and gifts of God which qualifies and brings into the state and condition that the true Elders Bishops and Deacons were in more then their names seeing that they could not have these names nor be ordained for their office by the Apostles till they were first fitted and tryed in the truth and by the gift of God which was in the Apostles and elders of the true Church who denyed not revelation and immediate teaching for they had that revealed in them which they taught and by that knew the holy scriptures which are able to make a man wise unto salvation through faith that is in Christ but without faith which is revealed and the gift of God the Scriptures cannot be known as they ought to be for it is the man of God that the Scriptures are profitable for the furnishing of and for our learning they are written who walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit Priest But we are not built on the foundation of every Pastor Teacher Elder Bishop or Deacon though both in their places Apostles Prophets Evangelists Pastors and Teachers are given for the perfecting of the Saints c. Answ. Here he would make two foundations the foundatition of the Prophets and Apostles not to be the foundation of the Pastors Teachers and Elders which were all given of God here he hath quite shut himself forth of the number of the true Church and hath shut himself out from being one of that sort of Ministers which before he pretended himself to be of so that this doth the more confirm to what I have written for how can he be either true Pastor Teacher or Elder when he is not built upon their foundation according to his own confession so he cannot be any Minister of Christ who is not built upon the true foundation which is but one so you may take notice of R. Baxters confusion for another foundation can no man lay then that which is laid which is Christ and they that were members

page 6. and in page the 8th he saith of the same people he speaks against nay such are noted for the highest sort of the wicked upon the earth worse then drunkards whoremongers and such filthy beasts the persecutors of Gods Ministers have been ever taken as walking Devils Answ. This is such a Ministery as the world enjoyeth indeed and altogether out of the faith so unfaithful where the teachers prayes and fasts for such as this priest confesseth to be the highest sort of the wicked and as walking devils surely they spend their strength in vain that prays for such as they count as Devils and the worst or highest sort of the wicked and how can his or their praying be said to be in the faith for such as he doth thus judge and yet he confesseth that there is a little help and hope left for their miserable souls see his blindness and confusion have malignants help and hope for if they have hope then have walking devils hope according to this mans account and then have the reprobates hope but it is manifest that there are some that are given over to a reprobate mind and some are without hope and some have neglected their visitation and such are malignants for whom we do not spend our strength neither do we pray for walking devils but for them whom God hath chosen and will chuse out of the world neither did the Apostles pray for filthy beasts but for men Priest I profess were it not for the belief of the greatness and necessity and excellency of the truths that I am to preach and for the will of God and the good of souls I would be a plow-man or the meanest trade if not a sweep-chimny rather then a Minister Answ. As for the sake of the belief or greatness of truth he himself is proved both to labour out of the true belief to be out of the truth whose labor hath so little effect as it hath seeing he labours for such as he compareth to walking devils and complains of the drunkards whoremongers covetous and ungodly persons in their parishes and yet he is a Minister among such truly he might see that he Labours but for very vanity if he were not blind so that a plowman or a sweep-chimny are more lawful then this mans trade who makes a trade upon the scriptures and its better to be plowman or sweep chimnies then an unprofitable Teacher Priest And he that is the accuser of the brethren which accuseth them before God day and night and is not this the works of the Quakers Answ. No for the saints were not in the false accusers work when they cryed against such teachers as were in the covetous practises and called them cursed Children neither are we accusers of the brethren when we witness against such Ministers now as are in the covetous practises but do suffer by the false accuser many of whose false accusations are extant in Priest Baxters lying papers against us called Quakers Priest in page ten And what else do Quakers and all these sects that are the enemies of the Minictry do they not go up and down the land and say to the wisest holiest teachers as if they took them by the sleeve come down and let me preach that can do it better come down thou deceiver and ignorant man and let me come up that am wiser and better Answ. I question not but that there are many in this natition that can witness against this Priest for a false accuser in these words for we do not use these words he layes to our charge as to say we are wiser and better and let me come up here he accuseth us as if we had as mind to come up into their pulpits but such high places or chiefest seats we desire not at all but rather leave them for the hireling priests that they may appear like Pharisees who had the chiefest places in the assemblies whom Christ cryed wo against and it is against the Priests the deceivers that are in the Pharisees steps that we cry and not against the true Ministers but we know that the seed is come that tramples upon the high places of the earth and upon these places wherein Idolatry is upheld In the 11 page Priest Baxter takes the labor of most tradesmen in the Town to be a pleasure to the body in comparison of his and saith they work in ease and I in continual pain Ans. Here let such as labour daily with their hands consider whether this man hath spoken the truth or no and whether compacting a sermon together in a week in his study or elsewhere and much of it made ready to his or their hands and declaring it over one day it may be sometimes in two dayes in the week and it may be speak by an hour-glass as many of the Priests in England do whether this be not easier to the body then daily hand labours from mornings till evenings and he that saith he is in continual pain it appears then that his trade is a bondage to him but if he were a Minister of the Gospel he would not be in continual pain in Ministring that neither would he murmure or complain as he doth and as the filthy dreamers did Jude 16. for the commands of Christ was joyous to his and the way thereof they ran with great delight and had joy and peace and consolation in the Lord which they received through obedience to his commands and were not in continual pain as this priest confesseth he is and indeed such as he is are like to be in pain they being in their steps who ran and the Lord never sent them and the Lord is against them how can they but be in pain for the wicked men have no peace with God and surely this labour and travail and trade of theirs is deep in the curse if they be in continual pain Priest As wisely do the Quakers argue that because we use spectacles or hour-glasses and pulpets we have not the spirit it is not want of your abilities that makes ministers use notes I use notes as much as any man when I take pains and as little as any man when I am Lazy Answ. Here hee goes about to plead for the Priests using hour glasses pulpets and notes for teaching by but he cannot prove that the Ministers of Christ used these things as the blinde guides in England do and as for pulpets such was in Ezra's time in the time when the Law was read and the Pharisees had the chiefest places in the Assemblies who professed Moses but denied Christ and he witnessed against them Mat. 23. and it is manifest that these that limit a time to teach in by an hour-glasse are not led by the spirit of truth for the saints did not preach by hour-glasses for they spake when and so long as they were moved by the spirit neither did they use notes for Sermons as the priests do but spake in the