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A78608 The deceived, and deceiving Quakers discovered. Their damnable heresies, horrid blasphemies, mockings, railings, unparallel'd deceit, and dishonestly laid open. In the discovery of which, is made known the pure use of the holy scriptures (which by them is denyed) the true Christ, and how he justifies, his second coming proved not to be already (as the Quaker affirms) also the resurrection from the dead, and the eternal judgement, and several other particulars that saints are required to be stedfast in. / Set forth especially for the good of those that are called out of the world, into the primitive order of the Gospel, but may be usefull for all people. By Matthew Caffyn a servant of the Lord, related to the Church of Christ near Horsham in Sussex, being an eye, and ear-witnesse. As wee have heard that Antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists, whereby we cannot but know that this is the last of the last time. Antichrist made known. Or, The Romish vvhore of Babylon proved not to bee the Antichrist, or man of sin, in seven particulars. 1 Who is this great whore of Babylon, and where her chief seat hath been, and is. 2 Her fall, and the means how and by whom. 3 What is the spirit of Antichrist, and who hath that spirit. 4 That the Antichrist will bee a single person. 5 The manner of his rising, and when. ... 7 Lastly, his fall, when, and by whom. By William Jeffery servant of the Church of Christ. Entered into the register book, kept by the Company of Stationers. Caffyn, Matthew, 1628-1714.; Jeffery, William, 1616-1693. Antichrist made known. 1656 (1656) Wing C206; Wing J522; Thomason E873_2; ESTC R206563 72,973 85

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the words of men but AS IT IS IN TRUTH the word of God 1 Thes 2.13 wherefore the Quaker supposing that God himself in men is their Teacher only erres not knowing the Scriptures for Israel was willing to be taught yet said they let not God speak with us but speak thou with us Moses and we will hear Exod. 20.19 and in this they well said saith God Deut. 5.28 Most true it is that no man can come to the Father but by the Son who offered up himself to death that we might have life by whose stripes we are healed without his blood there is no remission Heb. 9.22 by him also we have access unto the Father who at his right hand makes intercession for us and so he becomes our righteousnesse our sanctification and this Gospel was witnessed first by Christ himself but since saith the Apostles we pray you in Christs stead be ye reconciled to God those that were thus wrought upon through their ministry are said to be the called of Jesus Christ Rom. 1.6 Act. 28.23 and so is made good the words of Jude 3. contend earnestly for that Faith which was ONCE delivered to the Saints Object By this saith Lawson we set the Scriptures in the room of the Father and Son and so saith he deny both Father and Son Answ Many are the shifts of men to race out of the World that esteem of the Scriptures which indeed is but due being accounted by the Apostles HOLY Scriptures in respect of their use Rom. 1.2 whereby is made known the will of Christ in which we walk indeavouring through his grace the honour of the Father and Son which cannot be a denying of the Father and Son but he that hath his eyes closed will say so it is said the Scripture is profitable for teaching correction and instruction in Righteousness and that there ought to be attendance given to the reading of it yet most surely neither Paul that spoke it nor Timothy to whom it was spoken denyed either Father or Son nor pulled off the Crown from Christs head putting it upon the Scriptures as saith Lawson we do yet say no more than they did he most surely is worthy of the Crown that dyed to bring forth a word of salvation for men and that strengthens us by his Spirit to walk up accordingly from whom the Apostles removed it not yet said to men WE pray you in Christs STEAD 2 Cor. 5.20 yea and that from the Scriptures perswading men from morning till evening Act. 28.23 Aaron was to hearken unto Moses who was to put words into his mouth and therein to be unto him in STEAD of God Exod. 4.16 yet neither he nor the Apostles robbed God of his honour he being the original of him and through him and to him are all things to whom be glory for ever Rom. 11.36 Oh how great are the self-exaltations of these men how doth their arrogancy appear while they so mightily indeavour to destroy mens faith of the Scriptures as being adiscovery of the Lords will and yet in the mean while furnish the Nations almost in every corner with THEIR SCRIPTURES which is writings calling them a DISCOVERY of several particulars which they publish to men as the will of the Lord as witnesseth Deusburys book which he calls a discovery of mans return to his first estate with a discovery of Mystery Babylon Martha Simmons also speaks something in discovery of the nakednesse of all professions c. Farnworth also hath writ that the Truth might be cleared and the ignorance both of Priest and people might be discovered What! O friends may men know from their writings and yet not from the holy writings which were written for that very end that the CERTAINTY of the Lords will might be known Luk. 1.3 4. and that men MIGHT beleeve Joh. 20.31 God forbid Object Also I deny the Spirit saith Lawson in his book in saying that by the Scriptures is made known or revealed the will of Christ because the Spirit searches all things yea the deep things of God Answ There is indeed such words spoken by Paul 1 Cor. 2.10 but Lawson waiting so much upon the darkness within him hath wrested the Scripture and so himself is found unlearned 2 Pet. 2.16 though he hath talked so much of the tongue of the learned for the Apostle in the words before saith that eye hath not seen nor ear heard c. the things which God hath prepared for them that love him but God saith Paul hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit that is them things which God hath prepared for those that love him wherefore he saith vers 12. that we might know the things which are freely given to us of God wherefore most plainly will it appear to him that searches that the Apostle THERE speaks not of the Spirits revealing the duty of man but rather of the great glory and reward that is the portion of them that walk up in their duty though it is not to be denyed but rather witnessed by experienced souls that the Spirit doth teach them manisesting and laying open particularly the corruption of the heart which is but in general heads signified in Scripture and not only so but also mortifies the same Rom. 8.13 and also beareth witness with our spirit that we are the children of God verse 16. 〈◊〉 so are we sealed with the holy Spirit of promise Ephes 1.13 moreover by the Spirit is revealed and clearly made known those particulars which are obscurely signified in the Scripture Ephes 3.5 6. which things together with the revelations of the future glory the naturall man receives not for they are foolishness unto him wherefore he is required in the first place to repent and be baptized for the remission of sins and then is he under the promise of the holy Spirit Act 2.38 through which he may discern these things for they are spiritually discerned Object The manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withall but by reason of darkness it is not comprehended Answ Christ the true Light speaks otherwise saying that the World CANNOT RECEIVE the Spirit wherefore though the Spirit be a Teacher as aforesaid yet it is to be considered that the promise thereof so as to dwell in men is to such as yeeld obedience to that self-denying Doctrin of repentance and are not ashamed of those ordinances that belong to penitent men wherefore saith the Apostles God hath given the Spirit to them that OBEY him Act. 5.32 and those that say God hath given him also to disobedient men as a dweller in them doth make the Apostles words of no effect if the Spirit dwel in every unbeleeving man what meaneth Paul when he asked the Disciples whether they had received the Spirit SINCE they beleeved moreover when they signified their ignorance saying we have not so much as heard whether there be any holy Spirit Paul did not as we find tell them that they were mistaken
Deut. 11.18 after which means he said and well he might that the Commandement which I command thee is not hidden from thee but is in thy mouth and in thy heart wherefore still it remains that the Lord in all Ages did teach men through outward discoveries and not that they were led into all truth by a light within them as the only revealer of the Gospel as saith the Quaker and so he is tried and sound to have spoken contrary to the Law and Testimony wherefore I conclude that it is because there is no light in them though they so much talk of light The Quaker saith That the Scriptures are not a rule whereby men may know the Will of Christ as often they have spoken being prest to it and as appears in Tho. Lausons Book called The untaught Teacher pag. 6 7 8. wherein he repearts my saying That the Scriptures doth so farre reveal the minde of God and Christ to a Creature as that hee walking up to its revelation to his lives end with a single heart should be saved this I say he repeats and publishes as great Heresie God who at sundry times and divers manners spake unto the Fathers by the Prophets hath in these last days spoken to us by his Son who in his own person while personally upon earth instructed the sons of men exhorting them to repent and turn from sin pronouncing them everlastingly blessed that so did and followed him unto whom he particularly revealed his Will Mat. 5 6 7. chap. saying that he was a wise man building upon a rock that heard his sayings and did them and that he was a foolish man that heard his sayings and did them not which plainly shews that the words of Christ proceeding from himself was a rule to lead persons then in the way of Salvation and so is made good that saying Heb. 2.3 How shall we escape if we neglect so great Salvation which at the FIRST began to be spoken by the Lord Jesus afterward his Disciples took in hand to set forth in order a Declaration by writing of those things which Christ had spoken unto them which was most surely beleeved by them Luke 1.1 Acts 1.1 to whom he shewed himself alive after his Passion being seen of them forty days speaking of the things per●aining to the Kingdom of God vers 3. who also went forth after his ascension into the Nations an spreached that Word of Truth unto them which was FIRST spoken by the Lord to themselves teaching them to ob●erve ●ll ●h●●g● whatsoever Christ had commanded them according to 〈◊〉 commission Matth. 28.20 God also bearing them w●●●●s● w●●●●ig●● Miracies and divers girts of the Holy Gho●t Heb. 2 3. th●●●g● which n●ny obtained like precious faith with the Ap●●tles 2 Pet. ●● W●●● A●ts of the Apostles Luke also signifi●●●● 〈…〉 writing ●y all which Scriptures together with the ma●●●● 〈…〉 unto the persons thus converted the preach●● 〈…〉 made man●●●st and by the Scriptures of the Prop ●●t 〈◊〉 to the Commandement of God made know 〈◊〉 Nations 〈…〉 obedience of faith Rom. 1● 25 26. whe●●●●ore 〈◊〉 was cou●● 〈◊〉 ●●OBILITY in the m●n of Berea because 〈…〉 daily whether those things were so 〈…〉 ●●h●d which indeed had been a very igno●●● ●●sig●●● 〈…〉 of them had not the Scriptures been as a r●l● 〈…〉 know the truth of what was preached as it appears 〈…〉 it is said that therefore many of 〈◊〉 ●●eeve● 〈◊〉 7. ● 12. ●or which cause Christ bids the Jew ●earch●● Scrip●ure● saving That if they had beleeved the Scriptures ● ●oses th●y 〈◊〉 I have to beleeved on him Joh. 5.39.46 ●7 t● w●om 〈…〉 T●●t if they beleeved not in him the w●rds which he spake which are now in Scripture should judge th●m at the ●●●t day Jo. 12 4● 48. And saith Paul Sylvanus and ●●morh●us 〈◊〉 a●y man obey not OVR word by this Epistle which was ●●criou●● 〈◊〉 that man and have no company with him that he ●ay be ●h●ned now that the disobedience to the Scriptures should render men subjects of so great shame in this ●●fe and that 〈◊〉 the last day Christ should also judge them by it even the words which he hath spoken and yet not a rule now to walk by is altogether incredible the ways of God being just●and righteous altogether will might the Quaker be ashamed were he not given over to beleeve Lyes while hee affirms that the Scriptures is not a rule whereby to know the Will of Christ since Luke signifies no other end in his writing in order a Declaration of the sa●ings and loings of Christ but that the CERTAINTY THEREOF MIGHT BE KNOWN Luke 1.1 3 4. These are written that yee MIGHT BELEEVE Joh. 20.31 wherefore saith Christ O fools and slow of heart to beleeve all that the Prophets have spoken Oh then let us be wise like the holy men of old who esteemed the Scriptures holy in reference to the use thereof able to make MEN WISE TO SALVATION through faith which is in Christ it being profitable for Doctrin which in English is teaching for reproof for correction for instruction in righteousness that the man of God may bee perfect throughly furnished unto all good works 2 Tim. 3.15 16 17. yea so great was their respect to the Scriptures that though Peter was an eye witness of the Majesty of Christ in his Transfiguration upon the Mount wherein was presented the manner of his comming yet saith he We have a MORE SURE WORD OF PROPHECY that was in the Scripture as appears 2 Pet. 1.16 17.19 20. whereunto O friends we shall do well if wee take heed for whatsoever was written afore time was written for our LEARNING that we through patience and COMFORT of the Scriptures might have hope Rom. 15.4 Obj. The Scripture is not the rule saith Lawson for no man can come to the Son except the Father draw him and no man can come to the Father but by the Son Ans Gods way to draw men is by the cords of his great love manifested in Christ which the servants of Christ in Christs stead are to publish to the Nations perswading men thereby to bee reconciled to God and this is saith Paul as though GOD DID BESEECH YOU BY US 2 Cor. 5.20 the Saints indeed are said to be the called of God but saith Paul BY OVR GOSPEL 2 Thess 2.14 so also it is said of the Corinthians That they were called of God 1 Cor. 1.9 yet saith Paul In Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the Gospel I have espoused you to one husband 1 Cor. 4.15 2 Cor. 11.2 and so it is that as God did speak unto the Fathers BY THE PROPHETS so now by his Servants in Christs stead who are to minister by his Spirit that which was FIRST spoken by the Lord himself Heb. 2.3 who spake not of himself but what God the Father commanded him and so it was that the Saints to their commendation received the words of the Apostle not as
shewing them that the Spirit was in them but by reason of darkness they comprehended it not but rather questions their faith Act. 19.2 3. shewing plainly that faith is to precede the receiving of the Spirit as an indweller wherefore saith Paul after ye beleeved ye were sealed with the holy Spirit of promise Ephes 2.13 all which being considered may shew us the Quakers mis-understanding of Pauls words in 1 Cor. 12.7 who speaking before unto the Church concerning the diversities of the gifts of the Spirit said unto them considered as a Church such as were sanctified in Christ that the end of the manifestation of the Spirit given to every man was to profit withall but him the World cannot receive John 14.17 Another shift of those men to put by the true intention of writing the Scriptures is to tell people that they are not the Word of God and their reason is because Christ is called the Word which may not be denyed but yet Christ is not so the Word but that himself testifies the Scriptures to be the Word of God for saith he to the Pharisees Moses said honour thy Father and thy Mother but ye suffer a man no more to do ought for his Father or his Mother and thus ye make the Word of God of no effect Mar. 7.12 13. Mat. 15.6 that is plainly the Scriptures which saith honour thy Father and thy Mother God said to Moses that he would raise up a Prophet unto Israel and that he would put his words into his mouth Deut. 18.18 unto this Christ bears record saying I speak not of my self but the Father gave mee commandement what I should speak now judge ye I pray whether any of Christs hearers might have said and well said that the words which he spake was not the Word of God if they might not then the Scriptures being a presentation of what Christ did do and teach Act. 1.1 may properly be said to be the Word of God even so it appears Paul Sylvanus and Timotheus understood it who writing unto the Saints testified that they had heard of them and RECEIVED OF THEM how they ought to walk yet they received it not as the word of men but as it is in Truth saith the Apostles the Word of God 1. Thes 2.13.4.1 or the word of Truth which Timothy was rightly to divide 2 Tim. 2.15 but Christ is not divided or a word of faith because it testifies of Righteousness no otherwise attainable but by faith yet not but that Christ is the author of Faith he being that pure sacrifice that makes reconciliation for sins through Faith in him which the Scripture speaks of and so it still remains that through the Scriptures is made known the will of Christ yea the CERTAINTY thereof Luke 1.3 4. it being evidently his will that his saying should be set forth in writings as they are as will appear by severall counsels and cautions of Christ the danger whereof he well knew would not happen in the dayes of his then Disciples and so had been uselesse had he not intended that what he spake unto them should be recorded for the benefit of after generations Mat. 24. Mar. 13. Luk. 21. wherefore diligently observe what is written and give attendance to the reading thereof and I beseech you in the fear of the Lord that ye slight them not no not in the least least the judgements of God break out upon you I mean hardnesse of heart to beleeve lyes Oh remember how the anger of the Lord was kindled against Jehoiakim King of Judah when hee burnt the Scripture that was sent unto him that hee might know the Lords will and turn unto him Jerem. 36.23.30 31. whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for OUR LEARNING Rom. 15.4 let us learn let us learn The Quaker also denyeth that the Ministers of Christ indued with the Spirit of Christ ought to minister or preach from the Scriptures as appears in Lawsons book called the untaught Teacher pa. 2.3 Undoubtedly this will seem strange because in their preaching and also in their books they commonly speak of Scripture but friends there lyes a winding Serpent in that grass for from it they speak not though OF it but from that which they call Light within them which they wait upon as their ONLY TEACHER the teachings of which they witness forth and least iniquity should appear as iniquity nakedly they pervert the plain Scriptures into mysterious meanings and frames them up one way or other to that which their Light speaks within them and SO speak much of the Scriptures thus is it a MYSTERY OF INIQUITY yea though it be altogether against the plain Scripture yet will they follow the dictates of the darkness within them and that herein I abuse them not I present unto you one revelation of their Teacher that is concerning the Scripture which testifies that a woman is not permitted to speak in the Church by way of teaching though permitted in other cases by which say they is meant the wisdome of the flesh either in man or woman which revelation Farnworth thought worthy of the press and so published it yea I have been told by them that that woman which is forbidden thus to speak was within mee and spake in mee this say they proceeds from the Light but woe unto them that puts darkness for Light Isa 5.20 All that hath been already said serves for the proof of this which by them is denyed for the Light which they speak of within being tryed and found darkness and the Scriptures that which makes known the will of Christ it must neéds follow as a safe practice for the spirituall man to minister from the Scriptures since we find it also agreeable with the practice of the Apostles who at their first publick preaching after Christs ascention directed the people to the Scriptures yea a great part of that which Peter preached Act. 2. consisted of repetitions of the Prophets words which was to them and is to us in Scripture yea as matter of proof of what he spoke when he had asserted that Christ was risen from the dead he adds this reason verse 25. FOR DAVID SPEAKETH concerning him c. yea very much Scripture doth he there relate and then expounds them vers 29 30 31. and reasons from them verse 34. and this became effectual whereas if Peter had been altogether instructed by a Teacher within him and owned no other than the same Teacher within his hearers must have been the only means to convince them of their sins but it is otherwise recorded vers 37. when they heard THIS that is Peters preaching from the Scriptures they were pricked in heart and also the only thing through which they might be added to the Saints but it is otherwise said even that they which gladly received HIS WORD were baptized and the same day there was added unto them about three thousand souls verse 41. to this agrees also the manner of Pauls preaching
Scriptures that Jesus was Christ is said MIGHTLY TO CONVINCE the Jews to which agrees Pauls direction to Timothy about Bishops signifying therein that he must be one able by SOUND DOCTRIN both to exhort and CONVINCE the gainsayers Tit. 1.1.9 according to which agrees the relation of the people dwelling at Jerusalem Act. 2.37 WHEN THEY HEARD THIS to with Peters powerfull preaching by the Spirit out of the Scriptures they were pricked at the heart thus was he a sower that went forth and went OUT to sow good seed into the hearts of men Luk. 8.5 but according to the sense of the Quaker the sower dwels in the ground the wicked world oh horrible confusion but it may be the Quaker will take some advantage because it is said a sower and not sowers but the wise will consider that there is no room in the least for an advantage against what here or elsewhere hath been said for by the parable of one lost sheep or one lost peece of silver Christ justifies his practice in companying with many Publicans and sinners Luk 15.1 2 4 8 therefore it follows not that Christ himself in men is the sower only though all is from him originally for the Apostles said 1 Cor. 9.11 WE have sown unto you spiritual things which they did in Christs STEAD 2 Cor. 5.20 Object Christ saith when the Spirit is come he shall reprove the World of sin of Righteousnesse and of judgement Joh. 16.8 Answ It is to bee observed that hee doth not say when hee is come in the World but having before verse 7. shewed the expediency of his going away said if I depart I will send him unto YOU that was his Disciples and when he is come that is to you for the World saith Christ CANNOT RECEIVE HIM Joh. 14.17 he shall reprove the World of sin by which Spirit when the Disciples had received it they went forth with all boldnesse and utterance plainly declaring the word of Truth perswading men OUT OF THE LAW OF MOSES AND OUT OF THE PROPHETS which was in Scripture from morning till evening Act. 28.23 with such power and wisdome as that the adversaries were not able to resist the Spirit by which THEY spake Act. 6.10 wherefore notwithstanding this objection I have not so learned Christ as to beleeve that the wicked hath this Spirit of promise dwelling in them when as Christ saith they CANNOT receive it what God may do by his Spirit for men at certain times especially where other means are wanting I here speak not against but against this conception of theirs viz. that the holy Spirit of God DWELS in all UNHOLY persons of the World as that which alone convinceth them of sin and of Righteousness Moreover saith Paul Rom. 3.20 by the Law is the KNOWLEDGE OF SIN yea that Law by the deeds of which no flesh shall be justified whereby the Apostle prevents the Quakers objection concerning his spirituall Law by which alone he saies men shall be justified and also saith Rom. 7.7 that he had not known sin but by the Law for saith he I had not known lust except the Law had said thou shalt not covet which Law he saith verse 6. they then were delivered from and verse 4. dead to James also being of the same Spirit told the Saints that in case they had respect to persons they would be by the Law the tenor of which was thou shalt not commit adultery thou shalt not kill CONVINCED as transgressors Jam. 2.9 10 11. yet saith Lawson the outward Law doth not convince man of sin and his reason is because Paul said that he was once alive without the Law not considering that persons in their childish and youthfull dayes which are vanity Eccles 11.10 may properly be said to bee without the Law though nurtured by them that have the Law whike they live in lusts coveting after every pleasant object of the eye not understanding the things of God but when the commandement comes to their understandings capable to comprehend such things then sin is revived and they dye and so remains till remission of sin is assured to them now in reference to those Gentiles that have not the written Law Paul saith that they HAVING NOT THE LAW marke that are a Law unto themselves which never was said to them or of them that had the written Law that is concerning such things as is held forth in the Law of Moses which saith the man that doth those things shall live by then Rom. 10.5 but the things relating to Faith in Christ we find was made known UNTO men by outward discoveries but something to this hath been already said The Quaker saith that the Scriptures are not a touchstone to try Spirits withall as saith Lawson in his book pa. 14. The summe of all concerning the Quakers esteem of the Scriptures is thus THEY OWN IT NOT A RULE WHEREBY THE WILL OF CHRIST MAY BE KNOWN NEITHER THAT WHICH SAINTS endued with the Spirit ARE TO PREACH FROM NEITHER THAT WHICH CONVINCETH OF SIN NEITHER THE TOUCHSTONE TO TRY SPIRITS WITHALL yet will they say that they own all the Scriptures from the beginning of Genesis unto the end of the Revelations but oh their shamefull deceit Now this last particular must needs be found short of truth because the Scriptures are found to be the rule now that which is the rule must needs be the tryer or touchstone to manifest unruly persons though it be true that there is a gift of the Spirit which discerns the unsound man yea by very slender appearances yet hereby is he not so to bee tryed as to be openly published and judged till some evident disobedience to the written Law and so by their fruits we must know them not he that saith Lord Lord or Light Light shall enter into the Kingdome but he that doth the will of the Father whose will is signified in the Scripture moreover when Christ had informed his Disciples of false Prophets and false Christs together with their works and sayings which should come hee said unto them take heed behold I have FORETOLD YOU ALL THINGS Mar. 13.23 ye that fear God consider how inexcusable we shall be found if when Christ hath so exprest his kindnesse in foretelling the danger and prescribing the manner of its appearance that we might escape it it I say we shall not take heed thereunto comparing the workings and sayings of men with this written Prophecy and so try the Spirits thereby have we not good ground to beleeve that these men are evilly disposed in that they refuse to come to the rule to be tryed what is not that to try men withall now which Christ will judge and try and judge men by in the last day the word that I have spoken saith Christ shall judge him in the last day Joh. 12.48 which word is witnessed to us in the Scripture but Lawson supposes this day to be now which is to try every mans work wherein the righteous
Scriptures which before the strong delusion seised upon them would have shewen them that the Lord cometh with not in but WITH ten thousand of his Saints to excute judgement Jud. 14.15 this Paul and Timotheus looked for yet men of high degrees of Christianity saying We must all appear before the Judgement Seat of Christ but saith the Quaker we HAVE appeared another Doctrin O Friends wherefore another spirit but unto us that look for the Lord Jesus from Heaven who shall judge the quick and dead at his appearing and his Kingdom 2 Tim. 4.1 unto us I say a little may suffice for the manifestation of this errour The Quaker also beleeves that sin is NOT the cause of mans body returning to the dust as Tho. Lawson Tho. Laucock affirmed Strange yea very strange is this saying considered nakedly by it self but considering that it comes from a spirit that denies the Resurrection of the Body it is not so strange yet nevertheless the errour thereof is not thereby lessened Errour I say for when Adam by eating had sinned God said unto him BECAUSE thou hast eaten of the tree of which I commanded thee saying thou shalt not eat of it cursed is the ground for thy sake in the sweat of thy face shalt thou eate bread till thou return unto the ground for dust thou art and unto dust shalt thou return and to this agrees the words of the Apostle Rom. 5.12 As by one man sin entred into the Word and death BY SIN and so Death passed upon all not such a Spiritual death as the Quaker would have because in Christ all shall be made alive from it 1 Cor. 15.21 22. hee having through his appearance in the likeness of sinful flesh condemned sin in the flesh which is the sting of that death which brings into the Grave the bodies of men vers 55 56. thus by sin comes the death of the body and not only so for those many Curses as eating our bread in sorrow in the sweat of our faces women bringing forth Children in sorrow even these attends the bodies of men and women by reason of sin even BECAUSE thou hast eaten saith God shewing that God at first in his threat upon the transgression of his Law intended punishment upon the body that which did eat and in eating sinned dyed and so DEATH BY SIN saith the Apostle The Quaker also slights and denies Baptism in Water calling it a low Carnal thing This is signified by Naylor in his Book called A Salutation to the Seed of God Pag. 33 34. pleading that it may be now taken away by them they seeing it to be abused without any Scripture warrant they having as they say that Spirit within them which gave it forth This also they will say proceeds from the Light but not so indeed for Christ the true Light was not ashamed thereof but was obedient even to Baptism in water Matth. 3.16 also said that whosoever is ashamed of him and his words of him hee also will be ashamed when he cometh in the glory of his Father wherefore look to yourselves that yee be not beguiled of your faith in this so plain a Commandement and for your stedfastness therein I do here represent unto you Three considerations as reminding you of the ground for Baptism in Water First remember that John testifies that he was sent from the Lord to Baptise with Water Joh. 1.33 and in preaching Repentance and Baptism for the remission of sins he is said to be a preparer of the way of the LORD Mar. 1.2.3.4 in which Ministration he was very famous so that all the people went out unto him to be baptized but when Christ went forth preaching the Gospel of the Kingdome then the fame of John decreased and all went out unto him as most famous John 3.26 at the hearing of which John in all humility said hee must increase but I must decrease verse 30. Secondly Remember also that the Lord Jesus in plain words gave it forth by commandement saying to his Disciples Matth. 28.19 go ye therefore and teach all Nations baptizing them in the name of the Father c. that is baptizing them in water as undenyable appears in that the DISCIPLES were to administer it marke that they could not they did not baptize with the Spirit but saith John speaking of Christ he that commeth after mee whose shoes I am not worthy to bear HE shall baptize you with the holy Spirit Mat. 3.11 which saith Peter GOD hath given to them that obey him Act. 5.32 the glory of this ministration the Lord hath reserved unto himself and hath no where given it to man Thirdly Remember also that as baptisme in water in Johns time was with other things a preparation of the way of the Lord and afterwards established by the speciall command of the Lord himself so also after his ascension was it confirmed by an Angel from the Lord who well knowing his message bid Cornelius send for Peter and he saith the Angel shall tell thee what thou oughtest he saith not what he might do as an indifferent thing but what thou OUGHTEST to do Act. 10.5 6. who then he was come and had seen the goodnesse of God said who can forbid WATER that these should not be baptized which have received the holy Ghost as well as we making their receiving the holy Spirit a great argument why they should be baptized with water yet will men use the same argument why they need not be baptized with water alass alass what will the poor soules answer when God riseth up Job 31.14 these even the Spirit-baptized people Peter commands to be baptized verse 47 48. wherefore whatever men say this being submitted unto from an inward principle of love to him that first loved us is not a carnal thing but to be held fast remember that Jesus is the same yesterday to day and for ever Object Paul said that Christ sent him not to baptize but to preach the Gospel Answ Christ also said labour NOT for the meat that perissieth but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life Joh. 6.27 what did he hereby make void moderate working surely nay for Paul having his Spirit said if any would not work neither should he eat but rather that men should not make it their SPECIALL labour as the Jews did verse 26. after the things for the present bodily subsistance so Pauls ESPECIALL work was not to baptize that is personally to administer baptisme but to preach the Gospel to which belongs baptisme unlesse we should beleeve that he preached one Doctrin and Peter another but that is incredible but credible it is that they did not alwaies personally administer it and so it was that Paul had baptized but few of the Corinthians for which he gave God thanks not from a low esteem thereto but because they thereby had no show to say that he baptized in his own name as they were apt to say 1 Cor. 1.12 14 15.
the Quaker cryeth who hath waited upon the light within the light within another report wherefore another Spirit Though we may not deny but that through the report of the Prophets they were inlightened within from whence they were to act so faith commeth by hearing and hearing by the word of God now the Quaker may not say that word is Christ the light within because Paul affirms that in order to that Faith which comes by hearing their sound went into all the earth and THEIR words unto the ENDS of the world Rom. 10.18 now THEIR cannot be ascribed to one Preacher singly therefore is not such a light within which is but one and if the Quaker slight this he is more inexcusable than other men since he hath so far searched as to find that you relates not to a single person also by this saying of Paul we may consider that the Gentiles also were inlightened by the Gospel-preaching Prophets who sometimes were to go unto the Heathen to minister unto them as witnesseth Jonahs going to Nineveh and most evident it is that there were some proselited out of every Nation under Heaven to the way of the Lord which the Jews professed Act. 2.5 yet the Jew had a priviledge in this but where much is given much is required moreover if we look yet farther back I say as I said before that there is not to be found such an admonition no not from the very beginning as that men should wholly depend upon a teacher within this I find Judg. 7.14 that Enoch the seventh from Adam prophesied of the Lords comming WITH he saith not in ten thousand of his Saints as the Quaker pleads Noah also is said to be a Preacher of Righteousnesse 2 Pet. 2.5 and through his obedience in preparing the ark hee is said thereby to condemn the world Heb. 11.7 also it appears that the Lord shewed his wrath and made his power known upon Pharaoh and his mighty Hoast that his name through that memorable act might be declared throughout all the earth Exod. 9.16 also we find that God did speak unto Moses out of a cloudy pillar which descended in the sight of the people unto Abraham he spake by an Angel from Heaven and the common expression in Scripture to signify the way of Gods speaking is this the Lord said unto Abraham unto Isaac unto Moses but I find not where it is said that God did speak in his people his whole will and counsel as the Quaker affirms Object That which may bee known of God is manifest in man saith Lawson Answ As Paul informs us that which may be known of God is manifest in or to man saith the Notes so also he informs us how it comes there and by that we find him to have a spirit differing from Lawsons for Paul tells us that God hath shewed it unto man by the things that are made whereby is clearly understood his eternall power and God-head from the Creation for day unto day night unto night it sheweth knowledge Psal 19.2 and so is man without excuse Rom. 1.20 that is in respect of knowing there is a God all which shews that there is not such a light within as he speaks of because mans inexcusablenesse is ascribed to his neglect of due respect to outward means wherefore Lawson that talks so much of the tongue of the learned is found unlearned himself by wresting the Scriptures Consider also I pray you from the dayes of John the baptist hither wards and you shall find all the Scriptures unanimously contradict this Principle of theirs John is said to be a burning and a shining light being appointed of God to GIVE KNOWLEDGE of salvation unto his people Luk. 1.77 and to prepare his wayes before the Lord which had been uselesse had the people a knowledge of all his wayes by an internal light yea John himself though none greater than he born of women depended not upon such a light thereby to know all things for he sent two of his Disciples to Christ to know whether he were the Christ that should come or that they should look for another having a sign given him before that on whomsoever he saw the Spirit descending and remaining was the baptiser with the Spirit John 1.33 and this depending upon outward discoveries Christ-himself established by sending back a message consisting only of externals the blind receiving sight the lame walking the lepers cleansed c. which the two Discipies saw and heard these things Christ returned for Johns satisfaction Mat. 11.5 in the dayes of John Christ testified that he was the light of the World not the Spirit in him only but HE as he was the son of man the intended Sacrifice of God for to dye for the life of the World HE thus considered went from place to place preaching the Gospel of the Kingdome informing persons particularly of their duties Mat. 5.6.7 chap. not commending them to a Teacher within neither John the preparer of his way when the publicans and souldiers came to him and asked him what they should do but taught them their duties Luk. 3.11 12 13. and as Christ personally taught his Disciples and the people so also he confirmed what he declared by outward miracles which many seeing beleeved on him John 11.45 and others which heard and saw such works done by him which no other man did and beleeved not Christ pronounceth inexcusable having no cloak for their sin John 15.22 24. being such as John admires at John 12.37 saying THOUGH he had done so many miracles before them YET they beleeved not on him Some Christ said were cleansed by what hee as the son of man said unto them John 15.3 other some were without excuse subject to the Judgement because they received not his words which he spake unto them John 12.48 what less oh friends can these things import than that the words of Christ thus considered did work convincements within men of the truth considering that the rejecting thereof rendred them inexcusable if a light within in their sense be the only Revealer then John had no cause to admire in reference to the many miracles but rather in respect of the Light being rejected which Christ set up within them without such outward manifestations nay indeed he had no cause to admire at them more than others all having as they say a Light within leading in all the wayes of God but most evident it is that Christ hath otherwise appointed to make known the Gospel as appears by his similitude about the sower who saith Christ went FORTH to sow Mat. 13.3 went OUT to sow Mar. 4.3 contradicting the Quaker who saith the sower is dwelling in all godly and ungodly though the Sower be said to be the SON OF MAN Matth. 13.37 wherefore when Christ sent his twelve Apostles to the lost sheep of Israel he said that it should be more tollerable for Sodom in the day of Judgement than for that City that should not receive
〈…〉 29. and upbraideth them with this qu●●● 〈…〉 have ye not read Mat 12.3 5. chap. 〈…〉 the will of Christ was that men should lear●●● 〈…〉 ●●●veries which if you seriously consider 〈…〉 blame in case they ought not to have learn●d 〈…〉 Scriptures which is said by Paul 2 Tim. 3 1● 〈…〉 for Doctrine for reproof for correction for instruction in righteousness that the man of God may be perfect THOROWLY furnished unto all good work all which Scripture is given by inspiration from God and so originally God is the Teacher of his people yea of all but as it is written 2 Cor. 5.20 God beseecheth you BY US in Christs STEAD Object The Spirit an internal Teacher saith the Quaker from that in Joh. 16.13 is that which is to lead into all truth Answ Christ indeed there speaks of the Spirits leading into all Truth but it is to be observed that it was spoken unto such as were so far before led into Truth by Christs personall preaching as that they were pronounced clean through the words which he had spoken unto them John 15.3 Wherefore in an especiall manner he there speaks of those many things which the Disciples then could not bear as is most plain verse 12. and besides the acts of the Disciples together with their directions sent to the Churches when they were led by this Spirit are left to us in Scripture yet wee may not deny but that the Spirit in whom he dwels is a Teacher evidently and particularly laying before the soul the privy deceit and evill inclinations of his heart and leading him to a mortification thereof he being waited upon and also revealing many other usefull things which unto the natural man is foolishnesse but judge Oh friends how far off this is from the Quakers purpose who exhorts all ignorant persons of the World whatsoever to depend upon a light within them when as Christ in plain words saith that the World CANNOT receive this Spirit whereof we speak John 14.17 the promise thereof so as to dwell with a soul as a comforter being to obedient beleeving persons Act. 2.38.5.32 John 14.15 16. Ephes 1.13 even such as walk up in duty towards God according to the instruction of the holy Scriptures Oh how great then is the darkness of him that talks so much of the Light and counsels all to depend upon it alone which is contrary to the counsel both of Christ the true Light the Angel of God and the holy Apostles For when the Disciples inquired of Christ What sign there should be of his comming by which it is plain they distrusted that Light they had within he directs them not to a Light within but readily answers their desires to which agrees also the relation of Sauls conversion so also when Cornelius cryed out saying what is it Lord the Angel of God bid him send for Peter and HE should tell him what he ought to do Act. 10.4.5 6. so also when those that were pricked in heart said unto the Apostles what shall we do Act. 2.37 Peter directs them not to an internal Teacher but teaches them himself vers 38. Likewise when the Jaylour cryed out saying what must I do to he saved Paul and Silas neither directed him to a Light within but THEY spake unto him the Word of the Lord likewise when the Eunuch said how can I understand except some man guide mee Act. 8.31 Philip said not as the Quaker doth that the Light within is to guide into all Truth but himself began at the same Scripture and preached unto him Jesus consider I pray ye how fair an occasion in all these instances there was for such counsel namely to wait upon the Light within in case it had been the Lords pleasure so to teach men but we find another Doctrin and consider that Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and to day and for ever Wherefore be counselled not to bee carried about with DIVERS and STRANGE Doctrins Heb. 13.8 9. for this I affirm with all confidence that it is not to be found from the beginning of Genesit unto the end of the Revelations that either Christ or any of the holy men of God from the beginning of the Creation that did at any time counsel ignorant self-serving persons which had not been before enlightened within through outward teachings to wait upon a Light within them as the ONLY revealer of the Gospel Christ indeed gave this counsel to some that they should walk in the Light while they had the Light but they were such as were with Christ the Light and had heard him preaching the Kingdome of God often and had seen so many miracles done by him that John admires at their unbeleef John 12.37 wherefore this shelters not their opinion and so it remains naked an Heresy proceeding from the flesh which by reason of its pride would not submit unto the self-denying Laws of Christ but hath found out a way to passe by it even by turning the Scriptures into mysterious senses and so makes void many plain Truths of Christ by their dreams which they tell every man to his neighbour Jer. 23.27 which at the time of awaking will appear even to them to be a meer deceitfull dream proceeding from him who pretends himself an Angel of Light but greater is he that is in us than he that is in the World whereby the Quaker is discovered in his nakednesle and Christ the true Light of the World more and more gloriously made known unto us even him who is a Light indeed not as John who was a shining Light to Israel only but the glory of Israel and a Light to lighten the Gen●les also Luk. 2.32 being for salvation unto the ends of the earth a Light that lighteth every man that com●●●● the World from whence the Quakers would gather that Chr●●● the Light is within all as their ●nly seacher but P●●l 〈◊〉 Barnahas being of another spirit gathers 〈◊〉 thing eve 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 thence saing A● 13.46.10 we turn to the Ge●tiles or so 〈◊〉 ●ord ha●● com a●●ded us saying I have set 〈…〉 Light o● the Gentiles verse 47 So far were they from beleev●●● thence that 〈◊〉 ●as the alone Teacher in men that they conc●●●●● 〈…〉 ●he Gentiles in Christs STEAD 2 Cor. 5.20 yet will 〈◊〉 say ●●at●●●y have the same Spirit which the Apo●●●●s●●a●● judge y●● hat●●● wise Object The Children of the New Test●● 〈◊〉 not t●●●every man his Brother saying Kn●w the Lord 〈◊〉 the ●moi●ting ●●●●●th them all things so that they need not that any man ●each th●●● ha●●●●●●e Law written in their hearts Answ Abrahams seed with whom the old C●●enan was made was Children thereof by generation which Pa●l al●egorically sets ●orth by the bond-woman and 〈◊〉 even I●hmae who was born after the slesh and being so in covenant they had need to be taught to know the Lord but the children of this more glorious administration are not so accounted of but otherwise even by regeneration and
such none can be till they first know the Lord and such considered AS children of the New Covenant need not teach one another to know the Lord for all such do know him as did the Church of the Galathians whom Paul calls children no● of the bond woman but of the free Gal. 4.31 that is of the New Testament yet consider they were such as heard the Gospel from the Apostles who said unto that people that if wee or an Angel from Heaven preach any other Gospel unto you than that which WE have preached unto you let him be accursed yea at that time when they were children of the New Testament they were also to give heed unto the Scriptures for direction for otherwise Paul would not have sent unto them an Epistle in Scripture and therein tell them that as many as walked according to this rule peace be on them Gal. 6.6 yet this their respect to the teachings of the Apostles and the Scriptures in things pertaining to the Faith and order of the Gospel doth not in the least contradict Gods promise of writing his Law in their hearts for such they are that have a promise of his Spirit Act. 2.38 and are the Temple wherein God dwelling by his Spirit 1 Cor. 3.16 writes his Law even in their hearts particularly and plainly makes known his ROYAL LAW that so together by the power of the Spirit such may have the Righteousnesse of the Law●fulfilled in them they walking not after the flesh but after the Spirit Rom. 8.4 wherefore it still remains that though the Children of the New Testament need not to be taught to knew the Lord yet have need to be builded up in the knowledge of the Lord for Timothy knew the Lord as his Saviour yet Paul sends Scripture unto him that he MIGHT KNOW how to behave himself in the Church of God 1 T●●●● 3.14 15. and also by Scripture stirs up the Saints to edify ONE AN●●●HER 1 Thes 5.11 and saith Pe●●● grow in the knowledge of 〈◊〉 Lord 2 Pet. 3.18 to them that k●ew the Lord 2 ●●t 1.3 and this might ●e the practice of them John wrote 〈◊〉 for ●ught ●●a● is said against it for though he judged them so ●m●●●●t in spiritual gi●ts and in the knowledge of the Ant●chri●●●an dec●its which the there speaketh of as to conclude there was no abso●ute ●●●ssity for hi●● o● any other of the Apostles to write unto them y●● this is far from shewing that they ought not ●o edifi● 〈◊〉 ther as other Sa●●s were to do the anoin●ing indeed was dwelling in them and so was he in other ●ain●s that were enjoyned to edifie one another even the Spirit of truth whose gi●ts●●●●ivers the manifestations whereof are given to every man to profit withall he that techeth is to wait ●n teaching and he that exh●rteth on exhortation 〈◊〉 12 7 8. these with other of the gifts of the Spiri● it appeat● this Churen was enriched with and so in a capacity to press forward notwithstanding all oppositions as good Stewards ministring one to another the manifold discoveries of Truth Object The Apostles were indeed to go unto the Gentiles but it was to turn them from darknesse to the Light within through which the word of Faith which they preached was nigh them even ●n their mouths and in their hearts before as a Light shining in darkness but darkness comprehended it not Answ Surely the Messengers of Christ that were led by one Spirit had but one message which was to go and teach all Nations baptising them c. teaching them to observe ALL things whatsoever Christ ●ad commanded them Mat. 28.19.20 To which agrees the words of Paul Rom. 15.19 where he testifieth that from Jerusalem and round about unto Illyricum HE had FULLY preached the Gospel of Christ and moreover ●aith that if we or an Angel from Heaven preach any OTHER Gospel than that which WE have preached let him be accursed Gal. 1.8 and this Gospel was not in every mans heart before thus preached or by some other outward discoveries for Paul testifies that he strived to preach the Gospel where Christ was not named but as it is written to whom he hath not been spoken of they shall see and they that have not heard shall understand Rom. 15.20 21. wherein it is very observable that the Gentiles ignorance is not ascribed to their darknesse not comprehending what was spoken in them but to the want of some to speak unto th●m to whom Christ had not been spoken of as come in the flesh to which agrees these words of the Apostle How shall they beleeve in him of whom they have not heard that is hath not heard by an outward ministry as plainly appears by his continued questions how shall THEY preach except THEY be sent as it is written how beautifull are the feet of THEM that preach the Gospel Rom. 10.14 15. wherefore not by the Light within which even in our adversaries sense is but one yet by this do we not limit God to this his ordinary way and so make void his speaking by Angels or otherwise UNTO men at his pleasure and further if you consider the word of Faith cannot be said to be in mens hearts and in their MOUTHES and they not comprehend it nay it is no better than an unlearned ignorant mystery which cannot bee received by any except sensualists that have not the Spirit Jud. 19. for they that so possesse the word of Faith are at present in a fit condition to beleeve with the heart and also to confesse what they beleeve with their mouths and even so saith Paul in that place verse 9. that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus and shall beleeve in thine heart c. thou shalt bee saved Now we know that a man cannot make confession to Salvation with his mouth of such things which in his heart he comprehends not wherefore well observe that saying of Paul Rom. 10.8 and you shall finde that though he say that the word of Faith which he with others preached was nigh them even in their mouthes and hearts yet he doth not say that it was there before it was preached unto them while they were in ignorance and blindness for at that time when he spake these words unto them they were converted persons such as beleeved through Pauls preaching before and perswading them both out of the Scripture of Moses and out of the Scripture of the Prophets from morning till evening Acts 28.23 24. which is agreeable with that which Moses said to Israel Deut. 30.14 even that the Word was nigh unto him in his mouth and heart that he might do it but most plain it is that Israel was enlightned within through the written Law of Moses which there he speaks of vers 10. which he preached unto them saying That the words which I command thee shall bee in thy Heart Deut. 6.6 and these my words shall yee lay up in your hearts and souls
who having asserted the same Doctrin Act. 13.33 proceeds on with this argument IT IS WRITTEN making much use of the Scriptures of the Prophets for the establishment of the Doctrin which he delivered verse 34 35 36. so also Apollos by his ministry mightily convinced the Jews shewing BY THE SCRIPTURES that Jesus was Christ Act. 18.28 and this is noted of him as his worthy practice Paul also when he was at Thessalonica reasoned with the people three Sabbath dayes OUT OF THE SCRIPTURES opening and alledging that Christ must needs have suffered Act. 17.2 3. and when he was at Rome he perswaded the people concerning Jesus OUT OF THE LAW OF MOSES AND OUT OF THE PROPHETS from morning till evening Act. 28.23 through which many beleeved and they are happy whatever others say of a Light within as the only Teacher for Christ hath prayed for them Job 17.20 I pray not for these alone but for them also which shall beleeve on mee through THEIR WORD wherefore the Quaker erres not knowing the Scriptures when he affirms that the only means of Faith is the immediate teachings of Christ dwelling within men for the Scripture testifies that the Gospel at the FIRST was spoken by the Lord Jesus Heb. 2.3 which saying the Quaker makes of no effect by his saying that Christ first last and so alwayes by himself in men preaches it Object If it be objected and said that many things which the Apostles preached could not be proved by the Scriptures of Moses and the Prophets they in the least not speaking of them Answ I answer to him or them whose objection soever it is that particularly indeed some things was not spoken of in the Scriptures before them which they preached but most plain it is that such things they delivered from what Christ personally had bee fore commanded them Matth. 28.20 teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I HAVE commanded you which things are written that the certainty thereof MIGHT BE KNOWN Luke 1.1 3 4 and so in preaching from it wee do no more than what the Apostles were commanded to do which things though not particularly spoken of in those Scriptures before them yet therm generally included for when the Apostles had proved and convinced men that Jesus was the Christ the Prophet which the Scriptures of Moses fore-told of by the same Scriptures they were required to hear him that is Christ in all things whatsoever hee should say unto them Deut. 18.18 Obj. By this Tho. Lawson saith we shut out our selves from the holy men of old who were Ministers of the New Testament of the Spirit and not of the Letter A. Many are the shifts of these men to make voyd the true use of the Scriptures yet the waking eye will see and that clearly that the Apostle there speaks of the Letter of the Law which both then and now considered alone killeth for in the next verse he calls it the Ministration of Death written and engraven in stones which all may easily know was the Law of Moses by which no fl●sh shall be justified 2 Cor. 3.6 7. of this Letter the Apostles were not Ministers of neither are we but even this the Apostles slighted not in the least because men spoke of it from the Letter for themselves ministred forth the sayings of the Prophets which also was in Letter Acts 18.28 28.23 but because it testified of death to sinners which all were and now are in their first condition and of no remission of sins which the New Testament doth therefore the Apostle saith we are able Ministers of the New Testament not of the Letter but of the Spirit which testament as it is ministred forth testifies that men may receive the Spirit through submission to the law of Faith to which agrees the words of Paul he THAT MINISTRETH TO YOV THE SPIRIT doth he it by the Works of the Law or by the hearing of Faith Galat. 3.5 and saith Peter Repent and be baptised and yee shall receive the Spirit who also prayed and layed on his hands upon the baptised Samaritans that they might receive the Spirit Acts 8.15.17 this appears also so to be from that which the Apostle opposeth it unto even the Law the ministration of Death which is that which testified of Death so contrariwise the ministration of the Spirit is that which testifies of the Spirit as receiveable in the way aforesaid wherefore the Servants of Christ ministring from or out of the Scriptures through his Spirit are not shut out from the holy men of old for they also ministred out of the Scriptures Acts 28.23 and shewed by the Scriptures that Jesus was the Christ Act. 18.28 yet were they not ministers of the Letter yea their common Language in their Ministry was FOR IT IS WRITTEN FOR IT IS WRITTEN but hee that hath another spirit saith THE LIGHT WITHIN THE LIGHT WITHIN yea as the only teacher Herein is Lawson found to be unlearned having wrested the Scriptures though he hath spoke much of the tongue of the learned in his Book against me the occasion of which I here shall present unto you At a certain time Tho. Lawson demanded of mee what the tongue of the Learned was according to that saying Isa 50.4 now I knowing the snatching and catching nature of these men desired him to signifie the meaning of his Question in other words which was as he said What the servants of Christ are to minister from and so said he What is it that thou ministers from Your Question said I shall be presently answered and as for the former expressions we will pass by since you say that this is your intention therein for I am not satisfied concerning the intention of the Prophet in that place and so immediatly both Question and Answer was written Q. What it was that I ministred from Ans I minister from the Scriptures through the assistance of the Spirit of God yet notwithstanding hath he from this made a great out-cry of my unlearnedness entitling a Book thence therein informing men that I told him that I knew not what the tongue of the learned was but how farre his information savours of sincerity and how well it becomes him that so mightily pleads for perfection I leave it to the wise to judge remembring this saying what do these FEEBLE JEWS Nehem 4.2 The Quaker affirmeth that the Law without man that is the written Law doth not convince men of sin but Christ the light dwelling in the godly and ungodly Laws Book p. 15. That which hath been already said serves also to manifest the errour of this Principle for the Scriptures being written that the CERTAINTY of the Lords Will might bee known which was most surely beleeved by the Saints of old Luk. 1.1 3 4. must needs also certainly give us to know when we walk contrary thereunto yea in plain words saith Paul to Timothy the Scripture is profitable for REPROOF and CORRECTION 2 Tim. 3.16 and Apollos shewing by the
is to be discerned from the wicked according to that Mal. 3.17 18.1 Cor. 3.13 and therefore saith hee not the Scriptures but alass the more he endeavours to avoid the tryal thereby the more thereby he is manifested for by this he is found unlearned though he hath so much spoken of the tongue of the learned by wresting the Scriptures for the Prophet there speaks of a day wherein all that are proud and all that DO wickedly shall be destroyed leaving neither root nor branch Mal. 4.1 which the opened eyes sees clearly is not now of which day Paul speaks in that place instanced by Lawson wherefore he saith the day SHALL declare it from whence these men conclude that that day then did and now doth but Paul had the Spirit of Truth whom we find even as a dying man expecting a Crown of Righteousness which saith he the Lord SHALL give mee at THAT DAY 2 Tim. 4.6 8. wherefore let us prize the Law and Testimony to which if men speak not according it is because they have no Light in them though they may speak much of Light The Quaker saith that Christ is already come the Second time and George Fox affirmed in plain words before many witnesses that hee knew him come within him and he looked for him to come NO OTHERWISE and James Parnel affirmeth that they that confess not Christ come in THEIR flesh are the Antichrist and also affirmeth that by preaching of a Christ in heaven the Devil gets his work done on earth as appears in his Book called Satans Design discovered p. 19.25 This being well considered is the ready way to fulfill that which is written concerning those that shall come saying I am Christ deceiving many before the comming of Christ indeed which cannot be till first the true Faith of his comming be made void which these men indeavour to do by saying that the comming of the Spirit which Christ said he would send was that second comming of Christ which the Scripture so much speaks of but evidently it appears otherwise because the Spirit by Christ is called ANOTHER COMFORTER John 14.16 which saith he will not come except I go away but if I depart I will send him unto you John 16. 7. plainly shewing that the Spiritis the comforter of the Lords people in Christs personal absence for when Christ spake of his own comming he said on this wise I will come again yea as the SON OF MAN Matth 24.37 John 14.3 but speaking of the Spirit saies I will send HIM unto you which when the Apostles had received they went forth testifying the Lord Jesus not come within them but as Peter said whom the HEAVEN must reveive till the times of restitution of all things Act. 3.21 yet at this time had Peter the Spirit but lest there should be room for the Quakers to say that that Heaven was within them consider also the relation of Stephen who stedfastly looking UP into Heaven saw the HEAVENS OPENED and the SON OF MAN standing on the right hand of God yet was he FILLED with the Spirit but his wisdome was to distinguish between him sent and the sender and in this Faith he DYED and a long season afterwards we find Peter remaining the same confidently affirming that Christ was gone into Heaven 1 Pet. 3.22 signifying to the Elders that when the chief Shepheard SHALL APPEAR ye saith he shall receive a Crown of glory 1 Pet. 5.4 to which agrees the Faith of Paul and Timotheus also who looked for the Saviour Christ FROM HEAVEN Phil. 3.20 what from the fleshly hearts of men judge ye that are wise these also at that time had the Spirit to which agrees also the Faith of the Apostle John who said when he SHALL appear we shall be like him 1 John 3.2 yet then it was the Spirit appeared unto him the Church of the Thessalonians was of the same Faith waiting for Christ FROM HEAVEN 1 Thes 1.10 yet then were they the Elect of God vers 4. the Corinthians also being inriched by him in all utterance and in all knowledge comming behind in no gift yet were waiting for the comming of Christ 1 Cor. 1.5 7. the Church of Thiatyra was to hold fast that which they already had till he come Rev. 2.25 judge nothing before the time untill the Lord come 1 Cor 4.5 yet saith Thomas Laucock where is the promise of his comming is he asleep but Peter tells such scoffers that the Lord is not slack concerning his promise but is long-suffering towards men not willing that any should perish 2 Pet. 3.9 wherefore be patient UNTO THE COMMING of the Lord Jam. 5.7 for this is the true Grace wherein we stand even that which brings salvation for saith Paul the Grace of God that bringeth salvation teacheth us to live godil●y in this world and to LOOK FOR the glorious appearing of Jesus Christ Titus 2.11 12 13. Object The Saints waiting for the comming of Christ was but for a greater measure of Christ Answ That which is spoken elsewhere concerning their denyal of the Lord Jesus will shew the emptiness of this objection yet consider Christ was not taken up into Heaven by measures and at times but while he blessed them he was parted from them Luk. 24.51 and he shall SO COME IN LIKE MANNER as the Disciples did SEE him go into Heaven Act. 1.11 wherefore the usual expression in Scripture is the COMMING not COMMINGS of Christ where it is spoken of him since his ascension wherefore saith Paul to the Saints be ye not soon shaken in mind or troubled neither by Spirit nor by Word nor by Letter as from us as that the day of Christ is at hand for that day shall not come except there be a falling away first c. 2 Thes 2.2 3. yet saith the Quaker it was in a great measure come but thereby he is found to be led by that Spirit which then troubled the Saints pretending the day of Christ to be before it was to be which Paul afterwards calls a mystery of iniquity then working verse 7. by this also he makes void the use of Christs parables concerning his comming which himself sets out by a man taking a far journey giving authority to his servants Mar. 13.34 who after a long time commeth and reckoneth with them Mat. 25.19 in what manner he is capable to come judge ye and remember that Christ saith HE IS AS A MAN as abovesaid that is in respect of his suddain comming at a time wherefore he saith watch and pray for ye know not when the TIME is Mar. ●3 33 moreover consider that Peter even when hee was ready to DYE witnessed not the day of the Lord come but saith the day of the Lord WILL ●OME 2 Pet. 3.10 1.14 in like manner Paul when he was r●ady to DYE said that there was laid UP for him a Crown of Righteousness which saith he the Lord SHALL give mee at THAT DAY and not only to mee
to which saith Peter yee were redeemed with the precious bloud of Christ as of a LAMBE without blemish 1 Pet. 1.19 and without SHEDDING of bloud is no remission Heb. 9.22 even the bloud of his CROSS Col. 1.20 now consider I pray you whether he be not of that numb●r which counts the bloud of the Covenant an UN HOLY THING that shall deny the effect of this bloud and tells us of bloud in a mystery Oh remember that iniquity appears in a mystery for what is there required of us by the Lord that may not upon this account be made voyd at mans pleasure though never so plain Did the Apostles preach up Justification by the Bloud of Christ and yet is Justification by another thing which they in the least speak not of God forbid moreover how full are the Scriptures of expressions that signifies to us reconciliation by the death of Christ yea the death of the CROSS Ph●l 2.8 yet even this also is perverted into a mystery by these men who imagines that Christ never dyed but this Serpent lyeth hid in the Grass and is not easily to be seen but the Grass withereth and the Man of Sin shall be revealed the Son of perdition and this mystery springs from an opinion that the spirit suffering within that Person of Jesus was the Christ and so readily you shall hear them say that they own him who witnessed a good confession before Pontius Pilate meaning the spirit within him Moreover they will say that they own him who suffered upon Mount Calvary meaning the spirit within him which spirit they say is now within their bodies of flesh now judge yee how fair a foundation hereby is laid for those sayings to bee built upon which was foretold should be said by many that should arise saying I AM CHRIST which must be before the end which when ever it is let us remember that the Christ indeed hath charged us saying BELEEVE THEM NOT. Now that the fleshly Body of Christ as it was by him offered up to death even the death of the Cross relates to the salvation of the Beleever as effected through that is further evident because the Apostles who well knew what Christ was testified to the Jews that they had by wicked hands crucified and slain the Lord Jesus Acts 2.23 and betrayed and murthered the just one saith Stephen Acts 7.52 whom they slew and hanged on a tree saith Peter Acts 10.39 and this was charged upon them for their wicked act towards the person of Jesus of Nazareth without them and not for murthering of Christ within them as it is very likely the deceived soul would have it because the Apostle in his charge declares that when they had fulfilled all that was written of him they took him whom they had slain DOWN FROM THE TREE and laid him in a SEPVLCHRE Act. 13.28 29. whom God raised with whom the Apostles ate and drank after his resurrection Act. 10.41 even him whom the Jews slew and hanged on a tree verse 39. Now we cannot but know that it was a fleshly substantiall body of Christ that they slew murthered and crucified upon the tree and in so doing the Apostles unanimously affirm that they slew Jesus which in English is SAVIOUR and yet doth hee not through it save God forbid that we should thus deny the Lord that bought us for HE that the Jews thus slew and hanged on a tree with whom the Apostles ate and drank after hee rose from the dead HE saith Peter commanded us to preach and to testifie that it is HE marke which was ordained of God to bee the Judge of quick and dead and to HIM saith Peter give all the Prophets witnesse Act. 10.39 41 42 43. yea the Angel of God descending from Heaven bears witnesse to this truth who said to the holy women that came to the Sepulchre Jesus that is the Saviour is not here he is risen behold the place where they laid HIM Mar. 16.6 where the LORD LAY Matth. 28.6 yet will the Quaker slight this body but thereby he is found to have a differing Spirit from that which the Apostles had and so a false Spirit for they handling this body with their hands in the relation thereof said that which we have seen with our eyes and looked upon and our hands have handled of the Word of life 1 John 1.1 and saith Peter God hath made that SAME JESUS whom yee have crucified both LORD AND CHRIST Act. 2.36 and the Quaker denying this is Antichrist for he that confesseth not Jesus Christ come in the flesh is Antichrist saith John 1 Joh. 4.3 now by what hath been said t is evident that the Quaker confesses him not come in flesh all the Apostles did so as through the breaking of it and blood-sheding of it to effect mans salvation but the body that doth this we know not what it is saith Lawson yea so slender a respect have they to his body of flesh that they deny the glorification of it and so its ascension into Heaven and so now say they hath it not and this they manifest by saying Christ is already come the second time and looking for him to come no otherwise and moreover these men makes void the ordinance of the Lords supper which was instituted to hold forth by a resemblance the breaking of the body of Christ and the shedding of his blood which was shed for the remission of sins this I say they totally dis-own as a carnal thing by which they show their low esteem of that which is signified by it having conceived to themselves a body and blood in a mystery that sets free from sin which we find not according to the Law and Testimony therefore it proceeds from darknesse Object This is saith the Quaker a knowing Christ after the flesh 2 Cor. 5.16 Answ The diligent Scripture-searching soul may find that the knowing of Christ reconciling men in the body of his flesh through death Col. 1.22 and his being now glorified therein is not a knowing Christ after the flesh for equally as the Apostles knew not Christ after the flesh so they knew not the Saints after the flesh but them they could not know as not having bodies of flesh neither as not to practice with their bodies through the Spirit for themselves required the same people to glorifie God both in their body and in their Spirit which saith the Apostle are Gods 1 Cor. 6.20 which bodies being sown in the earth they testified should be raised again glorified so that by this the Apostles did not in the least slight the fleshly body of Christ nor the effects wrought for the sons of men by his being put to death in the flesh but having spoken at large before in the third chapter concerning the ministration of the Law as done away and of the present being of the more glorious ministration of the Gospel concludes as to that saying that henceforth we know no man after the flesh yea
though we have known Christ after the flesh that is had esteem of him in reference to the fleshly birth-priviledged seed of whom he came as concerning the flesh Rom. 9.5 thus the Apostles knew Christ no more out rather as HE was declared to be the Son of God with power according to the Spirit of holine●e by the resurrection from the dead Rom. 1.4 and that Pauls intention in slighting the knowing after the flesh is after this manner is further evident Phil. 3.3 4. where he speaking of himself saith that if any man might trust in the flesh or have confidence in the flesh he might much more and his reasons are because he was circumcised the eight day of the stock of Israel of the Tribe of Benjamin c. vers 5. which plainly shews how men were known after the flesh in the old ministration which is now made void by the comming in of a more glorious ministration Object The flesh profiteth nothing saith Christ from whence t is likely the Quaker will object Answ Consider we find the Apostle Peter being one of them that Christ spake these words unto testifying that Christ hath once suffered for sins that he might bring us to God being put to death in the flesh but quickened by the Spirit 1 Pet. 3.18 now did not he even HE understand Christ though filled with his Spirit which was to guide them into all truth judge ye and withall consider the occasion of these words of Christ John 6.63 which was a proposed question by Christ himself as appears verse 62. what will ye say if ye shall see the son of man ascend up where he was before the flesh saith Christ profiteth nothing that is in reference to his personall tarryance with his Disciples for t is saith he the Spirit that quickneth which will not come unto you except I go away wherefore Christ perswadeth them that it was expedient for him to go away Joh. 16.7 that is to ascend up where he was before but as himself saith he must FIRST suffer many things Luk. 17.25 yea and it behoved him thus to suffer Luk. 24.46 and what doth this profit nothing God forbid for herein is the love of God manifested in that while we were yet sinners Christ dyed for us who at that time said to his Disciples that he gave HIS FLESH for the life of the World verse 51. that whosoever eat thereof and drink his blood that is as himself saith beleeveth on mee shall never hunger nor thirst verse 35. whosoever therefore loves him not let him be saith Paul Anathema Maranatha This may serve also to discover the unlearnednesse of Lawson who cannot confess that Christ is a distinct being from the Father though hee say John 14.28 my Father is greater than I unto whom he prayed lifting up his eyes unto Heaven John 17.1 who is now a MEDIATOR between God and men even the MAN Christ Jesus 1 Tim. 2.5 now if Christ be not distinctly considered then how is he a mediator for Paul saith a mediator is not of one but God is one Gal. 3.20 wherefore by this the Quaker is but the more revealed what he is for consider the Spirit now dwelling in their flesh is also the Father and Son in their account and they look for him to come NO OTHERWISE as said George Fox before many witnesses the truth in Christ I speak and lye not and so are they found to be the ANTICHRIST that the Apostle speaks of denying the Father and the Son 1 John 2.22 in whose fear let us live not TOUCHING THE UNCLEAN THING The Quaker saying as aforesaid also saith and indeed cannot but say that Christ ascended not into Heaven with that body which God raised from the dead and glorified and Thomas Laucock being several times asked by mee where that Heaven was that Christ ascended up into and now was in he answered clapping his hands upon his breast saying WITHIN MEE WITHIN MEE Him whom the Jews crucified on the tree and slew God raised from the dead Act. 10.39 40. who being raised bid his Disciples behold his hands and feet bidding them also to handle him saying a Spirit had not flesh and bones as ye see mee have HEE that was raised again and THUS spake to his Disciples Luk. 24.39 HE led them out as far as to Bethany and HE lift up his hands and blessed him verse 50. and while HE blessed them 〈◊〉 ●●s parted from them and carried UP INTO HEAVEN 〈◊〉 51. and this is made good also by the Testimony of Stephen who said that hee saw the Heavens opened and the SON OF MAN standing on the right hand of God even Jesus whom God raised saith Paul from the dead 1 Thes 1.10 yea confirmed with his own Testimony Rev. 1.18 I am hee that liveth and WAS DEAD and behold I live for evermore wherefore I say as Peter said LET ALL KNOW ASSUREDLY that God hath made the SAME JESUS whom the Jews CRUCIFIED both LORD and CHRIST Act. 2.36 but if any be so obstinate and ignorant as to beleeve that Heaven is within these mens mortall and corruptible bodyes and that Christ whom the Jews crucified is now dwelling therein as his throne and there is a mediator between God and men let him bee let him bee ignorant still that which is said in the former particular manages this truth also The Quaker saith that some of them are already come unto the END OF FAITH this Thomas Lawson John Slee gave mee in writing which thing I denying they thought it advantagious to their cause to publish it Laws book pag. 10. This their affirmation gives us to understand what glory if I may say glory it is they expect and own and moreover by this we may most clearly discern their denyall of the resurrection for otherwise they cannot say with any pretence that they are NOW at the end of Faith wherefore our confidence towards God concerning a resurrection is alone sufficient to manifest the emptiness of this saying of theirs which they would establish from Pauls expression to Timothy ch 1.9 Who hath saved us c. but how according to his own purpose and grace given us saith Paul in CHRIST JESUS who is our life and when he shall appear THEN shall we appear with him in glory Col. 3.4 for unto them that LOOK for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation Heb. 9.28 in which day all tears shall be wiped awa● 〈◊〉 but Timothy who among others is said there to be saved was in 〈◊〉 even to tears wherefore Paul had a great desire to see him 〈◊〉 mindfull of his TEARS verse 4. in that day also all 〈◊〉 ●●ous and misery shall be done away but Timothy is exhorted 〈…〉 of afflictions and to endure hardnesse verse 8.2 3. more● 〈…〉 Paul the Scripture is able to make thee not hath made thee wise unto salvation c. yea and that which is more plain verse 5. Timothy is said to have
wherefore O friends as ye have received hold fast and grow as to the use of it The Quaker also denies the practice of the Lords supper which saith Lawson Christ put to an end at his death It is no marvel that they deny this since they are not afraid to say that the body and blood of Christ is unprofitable as to the setting free from sin which is to be in this remembred but unto us to whom the one is esteemable let the other also for indeed it is absurd to affirm that Christ should give forth a commandement to his Apostles bidding them to do it in remembrance of him and within four or five dayes put it to an end by his death yea before they were or could be in any considerable posture to observe it and yet afterwards to command them to teach all Nations to observe all together incredible most evident it is that afterwards the Apostle delivered this ordinance unto the Saints and afterwards regulated their disorder therein according to Christs institution 1 Cor. 11. and the bread which they in this ordinance used Paul saith they BREAK 1 Cor. 10.16 by which their mystery is excluded wherefore though Parnell be pleased to say that this is a feeding upon husks yet let us therein hold forth the Lords death TILL HEE COME The Horrid Blasphemy of the Quaker revealed MAny a time when I have spoken both words of truth and soberness the Quaker hath pronounced the curses and plagues of God to be my portion which seemed not a little strange unto mee that men pretending perfection should thus rage but since I have found him not afraid to speak evil of the Lord himself for more than once Thomas Laucock Quaker-teacher hath said that the Lord Jesus Christ is ACCURSED him whom we professe even him that was born of the Virgin anointed of God with the holy Spirit whom the Jews crucified and slew whom God raised from the dead who ascended into Heaven and there mediates between God and men this is the Christ whom we own against whom the Quaker blaspheming is found not to have the Spirit of God though he talk so much of the Spirit for plainly saith the Apostle 1 Cor. 12.3 NO man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus ACCURSED and so being sensuall having not the Spirit said at other times that hee knew mee BEFORE THE WORLD WAS in whom is made good that saying viz. they speak great SWELLING WORDS OF VANITY 2 Pet. 2.18 and as Isaiah prophesieth shall say in his heart I will be LIKE THE MOST HIGH Isa 14.14 for foreknowledge is that by which God advanceth his supreamacy above all wherefore it is said Isa 41.26 who hath declared from the beginning that wee may know and before time that wee may say hee is righteous yea there is none that declareth there is none that sheweth yet saith Laucock HE knew mee before the World was and James Parnell saith * In Naylers book called Satans design discovered p. 51. before corrupt reason was I AM Oh that they had such a heart that could learn not to blaspheme but this is that the Scripture might be fulfilled which testifieth of this strong delusion which being seized upon these men they conceive the foreknowing God is so appeared in them as that hee shall appear no otherwise and so speaks these words in them what is there O friends that ever was spoken by the Lord himself to the sons of men that these may not upon this account attribute unto themselves and speak likewise and what is there of all that is to be done by the mighty power of God that these may not as well challenge unto themselves thus conceiving of God in them as to say that THEY knew men before the World was what is there to hinder them from saying VENGEANCE BELONGS UNTO US and so become the revealed SON OF PERDITION who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God or that is worshipped shewing himself that HE IS GOD 2 Thes 2.3 4. yea so strong already are they in their conceits of the present finishing of things as that Nayler * Satans design discovered p. 26. blasphemously affirms that to promise freedome after death is a CHEAT OF ANTICHRIST and moreover saith * pa. 19. that by preaching of a Christ in Heaven the Devil gets his work done on earth O how doth arrogancy and spirituall pride put forth it self how great is the darknesse of this pretended Light the imperfection of this pretended perfection such also is their pride and self-conceitednesse as that they will not by no means say MOST NOBLE FESTUS Act. 26.25 but rather are such as despise DOMINION and speak evill of dignities Jude 8. but this also is that the Scriptures might be fulfilled Dan. 7.20 whose look was MORE STOUT THAN HIS FELLOWS fear yee the Lord fear yee the Lord. The Scoffings of the Quaker manifested AS we have heard that Scoffers should come in the last dayes even now already are they come whereby we may know that it is the last of the last dayes for at a certain time when I with other brethren was reasoning with Thomas Laucock concerning the comming of Christ he scoffingly said WHERE IS THE PROMISE OF HIS COMMING IS HE ASLEEP these very words I speak the truth in Christ I lye not did he utter before many witnesses by which he is found to be of them that Peter prophesied of saying in the last dayes there should come scoffers saying where is the promise of his comming 2 Pet. 3.3.4 he that by this sees not let him remain blind moreover such and so great is the darknesse of the Quaker concerning Christ and his comming as that at another time in a conference about Christ in Heaven he scoffingly replyed saying WHAT IS HEE THREE OR FOUR STORY HIGH ABOVE SKIE but saith the Saints seeing then that we have a high Priest that is passed into the Heavens even Jesus the Son of God let us hold fast our profession but saith the scoffing Quaker How can we have comfort or peace by Christ and he so farre off from us above skie hee is saith the Saints gone into Heaven whom having not seen yee love in whom though now yee see him not yet beleeving yee rejoyce with joy UNSPEAKABLE and FULL OF GLORY 1 Pet 1.8.3.22 whatever they say he that SHALL come WILL come and will not tarry fear yee the Lord fear yee the Lord. The Fierceness or Raylings of the Quaker discovered IVde the Servant of the Lord speaks of a people that are as RAGING waves of the Sea foming out their own shame vers 13. how nigh of kin the Quaker is to them judge yee by this following description of their behaviour towards me when I have been amongst them who at several times thus have said to me in great rage and fury of spirit Thou Beast bruit beast thou Witch thou Devil thou Reprobate thou Enemy of God for the Lake thou
of old that said in many things we offend all now that they so do consider these following passages At a certain time I was in Lawsons society conferring about Christs words viz. that no man could come to the Father but by him to which I said that he was indeed the way to the Father that is said I through faith in his sufferings for by his person no man comes to the Father considered without his sufferings from which words and many more of this nature he picks out these words that I said that no man comes to the Father by the person of Christ and prints it in his book though no more ground so to do than he may have to say that David said there was no God leaving out the former words viz. the fool hath said in his heart but that which aggravates his dishonesty is that while hee blames mee for disowning the coming unto the Father by the person of Christ when as I do not himself doth as hath been proved and in his book elsewhere calls mee image-maker for owning the person of Christ ascended and yet he even HE upbraids mee for denying the coming unto the Father by the person of Christ doth this O friends look like unto perfection nay rather an inexcusable condition in that he blames another and yet doth the thing which hee blames another for HIMSELF at another time being greatly upbraided for acknowledging my self sailable in some things by George Fox I at length desired him to consider that which is recorded of Peter who said I was eminent in the service of Christ yet sinned for the proof of which I read that in Gal. 2.11 12 13 14. vers where it is said that Paul withstood him to the face because he was to be blamed and that he with other Jews dissembled which to any honest man is proof sufficient but so far was Fox from receiving it that he furiously falls on calling mee beast and lyer because I affirmed that Peter sinned and that word SINNED was not there yet will this man say hee is perfect but judge ye whether a man that is but a babe in Christianity would not abhorre such a thing for can it be thought that he that dissembles and is to be blamed is unblamable moreover at another time I made repetition of this passage before Thomas Laucock to hear what he would say to it but in the least would he not blame his Brother but violently puts mee to prove that DISSIMULATION WAS SIN * Many witnesses hearing which at first I was unwilling to do but being prest to it by Laucock I did produce Scriptures for the proof thereof then said one of them to mee but was it sin in Peter are not these O friends perverse reasonings of men of corrupt minds was it ever known since the World was that a man should be put to prove dissimulation to be sin would any of the prophane World the drunkard or swearer thus reason surely nay but that which is mostly to be admired is that all this while they should justifie themselves saying to all STAND OFF WE ARE PERFECT Oh that the poor souls had hearts to consider their great imperfection at another time I being accused by Laucock for putting the title Brother upon one that was withdrawn from endeavoured to prove the lawfulnesse thereof by the Scriptures 2 Thes 3.14 15. moreover I said it was clear according to a similitude for said I PROVIDED my finger pointing thereat WERE cut yet it is not presently to be slighted and cut off but first to apply means of cure 〈◊〉 even so in the other to which Laucock answered saying that I was a lyar a lyar if my finger was not really and indeed cut I speak the truth in Christ thus did he say before several men wherein he hath fomed out his own shame but this is that the Scriptures might be fulfilled which testifie that in the last dayes perillous times shall come wherein men shall be UNHOLY FALSE ACCUSERS 2 Tim. 3.2 3. Oh let us be holy in all our wayes This little of much more of this nature I offer unto your considerations Notwithstanding all that hath been said the Quaker looks upon himself as perfect yea as Laucock hath said as PERFECT WITHOVT SIN AS GOD IS condemning others because they say with the Apostle in many things we offend all He that is so ignorant as to beleeve this let him be ignorant still Yet true it is that Saints were perfect and now may be perfect that is as considered in Christ who of God is made unto us wisdome righteousnesse sanctification and redemption unto whom we are now to live and no longer unto our selves even perfecting holinesse in the fear of God wherefore let every soul awake unto Righteousness and know for certainty that perfection is farre more than the forsaking of the false worships of men and the gross crimes wherein we have lived for that may be and yet we shut out of the Kingdome like foolish Virgins that have not been zealous for God far more also is it than a walking blamelessely to the view of men for that a man may do yet be defiled within wherefore with the Apostle renounce the hidden things of dishonesty even private evill motions which surely cannot but make the soul mourn that truly fears God for it is not a work done but a work well done that is acceptable in the sight of God even when SELF is shut out and not mixt with good intentions yea and when the heart is affected with duty which cannot bee till the soul is fixed upon the Lord as the object of his affections then and not TILL THEN is there passage to perfection for where the treasure is the heart WILL BEE wherefore LOVE YEE THE LORD GOD WITH ALL YOUR SOULES AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH yea and the Children of God also with a pure heart fervently yea yet further must we go if wee will bee perfect even to the doing him good that doth us evill yea and that with freedome of Spirit also O then live in the fear of the Lord crying mightily unto him that from him you may receive such measures of Grace as that you may experience good degrees of Christianity and by no means shelter negligence and coldnesse under the Apostles words it is not I but sin that dwelleth in mee but bee zealous as wise Virgins so shall yee enter into the Kingdome but if contrariwise you shall trifle away this day of liberty which was purchased with much blood what will yee answer when God visiteth what will yee do when hee riseth up Job 31.13 wherefore redeem time and apply your hearts unto wisdome and let every one attend upon his work hear yee diligently and do yee accordingly yee that teach teach in sincerity through the ability which God giveth and let the ARTIFICIALL METHODICALL OLD-MAN-PLEASING FORMS in the ministration of the word DIE DAYLY wait yee upon the Lord Again