Selected quad for the lemma: spirit_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
spirit_n	father_n	scripture_n	word_n	5,665	5	4.3306	3	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A15422	Synopsis papismi, that is, A generall viewe of papistry wherein the whole mysterie of iniquitie, and summe of antichristian doctrine is set downe, which is maintained this day by the Synagogue of Rome, against the Church of Christ, together with an antithesis of the true Christian faith, and an antidotum or counterpoyson out of the Scriptures, against the whore of Babylons filthy cuppe of abominations: deuided into three bookes or centuries, that is, so many hundreds of popish heresies and errors. Collected by Andrew Willet Bachelor of Diuinity.	Willet, Andrew, 1562-1621.	1592 (1592)	STC 25696; ESTC S119956	618,512	654

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96._o the_o nine_o general_n controversy_n concern_v saint_n depart_v this_o controversy_n have_v two_o part_n first_o of_o those_o that_o be_v depart_v suffer_v some_o punishment_n after_o this_o life_n second_o of_o those_o that_o be_v straight_o receive_v to_o joy_n in_o heaven_n the_o first_o part_n have_v two_o question_n first_o of_o the_o place_n of_o darkness_n where_o the_o faithful_a remain_v till_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n as_o the_o papist_n imagine_v second_o of_o purgatory_n the_o first_o question_n of_o limbus_n patrum_n where_o the_o patriarch_n be_v imagine_v to_o be_v the_o papist_n 9_o they_o have_v devise_v and_o imagine_v in_o their_o foolish_a conceit_n four_o infernal_a and_o subterrestrial_a place_n hell_n purgatory_n limbus_n infantium_fw-la where_o child_n remain_v die_v without_o baptism_n and_o limbus_n patrum_fw-la where_o the_o father_n be_v before_o christ_n come_v these_o place_n they_o distinguish_v three_o way_n first_o by_o the_o situation_n hell_n 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4._o

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the_o bread_n of_o life_n he_o that_o come_v to_o i_o shall_v not_o hunger_n and_o he_o that_o believe_v in_o i_o shall_v not_o thirst_v to_o eat_v then_o and_o to_o drink_v christ_n be_v to_o believe_v in_o he_o 2_o christ_n understand_v another_o manner_n of_o eat_v of_o his_o flesh_n than_o the_o capernaite_n do_v but_o they_o imagine_v that_o christ_n will_v give_v his_o very_a flesh_n and_o blood_n to_o be_v eat_v and_o therefore_o they_o go_v away_o offend_v and_o say_v this_o be_v a_o hard_a say_n vers_fw-la 60._o therefore_o christ_n to_o correct_v their_o erroneous_a conceit_n say_v unto_o they_o that_o his_o word_n be_v spirit_n and_o life_n that_o be_v spiritual_o to_o be_v understand_v verse_n 63._o so_o augustine_n interprete_v those_o word_n of_o christ_n as_o if_o he_o have_v say_v spiritualiter_fw-la intelligite_fw-la quod_fw-la locutus_fw-la sum_fw-la you_o must_v understand_v spiritual_o that_o which_o i_o have_v say_v you_o shall_v not_o eat_v this_o body_n which_o 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receive_v the_o holy_a ghost_n the_o protestant_n your_o seven_o popish_a order_n we_o do_v not_o at_o all_o receive_v into_o the_o church_n much_o less_o can_v we_o abide_v that_o they_o shall_v be_v sacrament_n the_o lawful_a ordain_v of_o pastor_n teacher_n and_o deacon_n we_o do_v acknowledge_v but_o no_o sacrifice_a priesthood_n nor_o no_o minister_a deaconship_n at_o the_o altar_n such_o order_n as_o we_o have_v notwithstanding_o we_o do_v not_o take_v to_o be_v sacrament_n much_o less_o you_o that_o be_v utter_o to_o be_v abolish_v argum._n 1._o sacrament_n must_v have_v their_o institution_n from_o christ_n so_o have_v not_o your_o order_n for_o christ_n institute_v only_a apostle_n and_o disciple_n presbyter_n and_o deacon_n be_v found_v by_o the_o apostle_n who_o notwithstanding_o have_v no_o commission_n to_o constitute_v new_a sacrament_n as_o for_o the_o other_o five_o order_n of_o subdeacons_n reader_n acoluthi_fw-la exorcist_n door_n keeper_n they_o be_v neither_o read_v 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sacrificer_n of_o christ_n wherefore_o neither_o have_v you_o any_o word_n of_o institution_n and_o consequent_o no_o sacrament_n and_o i_o pray_v you_o tell_v i_o if_o you_o will_v make_v every_o one_o of_o your_o order_n a_o sacrament_n then_o must_v you_o needs_o have_v as_o many_o sacrament_n as_o there_o be_v order_n and_o so_o shall_v you_o have_v six_o sacrament_n more_o than_o you_o think_v for_o you_o do_v distinguish_v all_o the_o order_n in_o office_n and_o form_n of_o consecration_n one_o from_o another_o and_o therefore_o they_o can_v all_o make_v one_o sacrament_n 1._o augustine_n say_v christus_fw-la sacramentis_fw-la numer●_fw-la paucissimis_fw-la societatem_fw-la populi_fw-la colligavit_fw-la christ_n have_v join_v together_o his_o people_n with_o most_o few_o sacrament_n and_o then_o he_o name_v baptism_n and_o the_o communion_n et_fw-la si_fw-la quid_fw-la aliud_fw-la in_o scripture_n canonicis_fw-la commendatur_fw-la and_o if_o any_o other_o be_v commend_v in_o scripture_n ergo_fw-la there_o be_v no_o sacrament_n of_o order_n because_o it_o be_v not_o find_v in_o

thus_o isti_fw-la significati_fw-la sunt_fw-la ad_fw-la timotheum_n etc._n etc._n these_o of_o who_o the_o apostle_n speak_v be_v signify_v in_o another_o place_n to_o timoth._n 2.2.19_o the_o foundation_n of_o god_n remain_v sure_a the_o lord_n know_v who_o be_v he_o 7._o ergo_fw-la this_o assurance_n and_o confidence_n be_v common_a though_o not_o in_o the_o like_a measure_n to_o all_o faithful_a christian_n augustine_n also_o say_v quia_fw-la non_fw-la secundum_fw-la merita_fw-la nostra_fw-la sed_fw-la illius_fw-la misericordiam_fw-la firma_fw-la est_fw-la promissio_fw-la nemo_fw-la debet_fw-la cum_fw-la trepidatione_fw-la praedicare_fw-la unde_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la dubitare_fw-la because_o the_o promise_n remain_v steadfast_a not_o by_o our_o work_n but_o his_o mercy_n we_o must_v not_o with_o tremble_v and_o fearfulness_n pronounce_v that_o whereof_o we_o can_v doubt_v no_o marvel_n then_o if_o papist_n doubt_v of_o their_o salvation_n because_o their_o confidence_n be_v build_v upon_o their_o work_n but_o if_o they_o will_v with_o the_o faithful_a of_o god_n renounce_v their_o own_o work_n and_o be_v content_a to_o submit_v themselves_o to_o the_o faith_n of_o christ_n they_o will_v not_o think_v it_o so_o strange_a a_o thing_n for_o christian_n to_o have_v a_o full_a and_o steadfast_a persuasion_n of_o their_o salvation_n the_o second_o part_n of_o the_o benefit_n of_o our_o vocation_n to_o the_o which_o belong_v the_o knowledge_n of_o sin_n and_o the_o law_n the_o first_o question_n of_o sin_n the_o part_n of_o this_o question_n be_v these_o first_o of_o original_a sin_n second_o of_o the_o difference_n of_o sin_n three_o of_o venial_a sin_n four_o whether_o all_o sin_n be_v remissible_a fift_o whether_o god_n be_v the_o author_n of_o sin_n sixth_o whether_o the_o work_n of_o the_o not_o regenerate_v be_v sin_n the_o first_o part_n of_o original_a sin_n the_o papist_n error_n 59_o concupiscence_n which_o we_o also_o call_v original_a sin_n remain_v after_o baptism_n be_v not_o proper_o a_o sin_n nor_o forbid_v by_o commandment_n till_o it_o reign_v in_o we_o and_o we_o obey_v the_o desire_n thereof_o it_o be_v call_v sin_n because_o it_o be_v the_o matter_n effect_n and_o occasion_n of_o sin_n rhemist_n rom._n 6._o sect_n 6._o council_n trident._n sess_v 5._o argum._n jam._n 1.15_o concupiscence_n when_o it_o have_v conceive_v bring_v forth_o sin_n ergo_fw-la it_o be_v not_o sin_n of_o itself_o but_o when_o the_o consent_n of_o will_n come_v sin_n be_v engender_v rhemist_n the_o protestant_n ans._n the_o argument_n follow_v not_o concupiscence_n bring_v forth_o sin_n ergo_fw-la it_o be_v no_o sin_n nay_o it_o shall_v the_o rather_o be_v sin_n as_o one_o serpent_n bring_v forth_o another_o so_o both_o the_o mother_n and_o daughter_n be_v sin_n for_o evil_a fruit_n do_v show_v a_o evil_a tree_n argum._n saint_n paul_n say_v that_o concupiscence_n be_v flat_o forbid_v by_o the_o law_n which_o say_v thou_o shall_v not_o lust_n rom._n 7.7_o and_o vers_fw-la 17._o he_o call_v it_o sin_n dwell_v in_o we_o though_o it_o do_v not_o reign_v in_o we_o ergo_fw-la it_o be_v proper_o sin_n augustine_n say_v omnium_fw-la malorum_fw-la reatu_fw-la caret_fw-la qui_fw-la baptizatur_fw-la non_fw-la omnibus_fw-la malis_fw-la he_o that_o be_v baptize_v be_v clear_v from_o the_o guilt_n of_o all_o evil_n or_o sin_n but_o not_o from_o the_o evil_n themselves_o dimittuntur_fw-la in_o baptismo_fw-la omne_fw-la peccata_fw-la &_o originaliter_fw-la tracta_fw-la &_o ignoranter_fw-la vel_fw-la scienter_fw-la adiecta_fw-la all_o sin_n be_v forgive_v in_o baptism_n both_o original_n and_o commit_v ignorant_o or_o witting_o therefore_o original_a sin_n be_v no_o otherways_o take_v away_o in_o baptism_n than_o other_o sin_n be_v but_o the_o guilt_n only_o of_o other_o sin_n be_v remit_v in_o baptism_n the_o blot_n or_o stain_n remain_v still_o ergo_fw-la original_a sin_n cease_v in_o respect_n of_o the_o guilt_n for_o neither_o it_o nor_o any_o other_o sin_n shall_v be_v impute_v unto_o those_o which_o be_v justify_v in_o christ_n but_o it_o be_v a_o sin_n still_o as_o the_o rest_n be_v augustine_n also_o dare_v call_v it_o a_o sin_n concupiscentia_fw-la peior_fw-la est_fw-la ignorantia_fw-la concupiscence_n be_v worse_a than_o ignorance_n 105_o and_o in_o another_o place_n ignorantia_fw-la in_o ijs_fw-la qui_fw-la intelligere_fw-la noluerunt_fw-la peccatum_fw-la est_fw-la in_fw-la ijs_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la potuerunt_fw-la poena_fw-la peccati_fw-la but_o ignorance_n be_v in_o they_o which_o be_v able_a to_o learn_v sin_n in_o those_o that_o can_v a_o punishment_n of_o sin_n if_o ignorance_n be_v sin_n concupiscence_n worse_o than_o ignorance_n be_v much_o more_o the_o second_o part_n of_o the_o difference_n of_o sin_n the_o papist_n some_o sin_n be_v deadly_a or_o mortal_a because_o all_o that_o do_v they_o be_v worthy_a of_o error_n 60_o damnation_n other_o be_v venial_a that_o be_v to_o say_v pardonable_a of_o their_o own_o nature_n rhemist_n rom._n 1.11_o argum._n sin_n when_o it_o be_v finish_v bring_v forth_o death_n jam._n 1.15_o ergo_fw-la not_o all_o sin_n but_o that_o which_o be_v consummate_v and_o perfect_v be_v mortal_a rhemist_n ibid._n the_o protestant_n ans._n out_o of_o this_o place_n it_o be_v gather_v that_o there_o be_v degree_n of_o sin_n and_o that_o the_o more_o heinous_a sin_n be_v worthy_a of_o more_o grievous_a death_n and_o condemnation_n but_o that_o concupiscence_n or_o other_o less_o sin_n deserve_v not_o death_n it_o be_v not_o hence_o prove_v see_v the_o scripture_n say_v that_o the_o wage_n of_o all_o sin_n be_v death_n rom._n 6.23_o argum._n that_o no_o sin_n be_v venial_a or_o pardonable_a of_o it_o own_o nature_n but_o that_o the_o least_o deserve_v death_n if_o god_n shall_v deal_v with_o we_o according_a to_o the_o exact_a rule_n of_o his_o justice_n it_o thus_o appear_v first_o if_o all_o sin_n be_v not_o mortal_a christ_n die_v not_o for_o all_o sin_n for_o he_o by_o his_o death_n do_v satisfy_v only_o for_o sin_n that_o deserve_a death_n but_o christ_n die_v for_o all_o sin_n john_n 1.19_o second_o all_o transgression_n of_o god_n law_n be_v sin_n and_o deserve_v the_o curse_n of_o god_n galath_n 3.10_o but_o all_o sin_n be_v the_o transgression_n of_o the_o law_n 1._o john_n 3.4_o augustine_n and_o other_o of_o the_o father_n do_v use_v this_o term_n of_o venial_a sin_n but_o not_o in_o their_o sense_n as_o though_o any_o sin_n in_o it_o own_o nature_n deserve_v pardon_v but_o by_o venial_a sin_n they_o understand_v the_o lesser_a and_o small_a fault_n which_o be_v more_o easy_o forgive_v at_o god_n hand_n than_o the_o great_a sunt_fw-la venialiae_fw-la peccata_fw-la there_o be_v certain_a venial_a sin_n without_o the_o which_o a_o man_n can_v live_v say_v augustine_n propter_fw-la omne_fw-la peccata_fw-la baptismus_fw-la inventus_fw-la est_fw-la propter_fw-la levia_fw-la oratio_fw-la dominica_fw-la for_o all_o sin_n baptism_n be_v a_o remedy_n and_o the_o lord_n prayer_n for_o the_o less_o de_fw-fr symbolo_fw-la lib._n 1.6_o by_o venial_a sin_n he_o understand_v the_o small_a sin_n which_o be_v not_o pardonable_a in_o their_o own_o nature_n for_o than_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a to_o ask_v forgiveness_n for_o they_o in_o the_o lord_n prayer_n they_o will_v vanish_v away_o of_o themselves_o wherefore_o we_o can_v receive_v this_o popish_a distinction_n of_o venial_a and_o mortal_a sin_n as_o they_o understand_v it_o as_o the_o scripture_n use_v to_o speak_v we_o do_v not_o great_o mislike_v they_o that_o be_v by_o grace_n and_o mercy_n in_o christ_n all_o sin_n even_o the_o great_a be_v not_o only_o pardonable_a but_o pardon_v unto_o we_o isay_n 1.18_o but_o unto_o the_o wicked_a and_o impenitent_a every_o sin_n be_v mortal_a they_o shall_v even_o by_o their_o idle_a word_n be_v condemn_v matth._n 12.36.37_o the_o three_o part_n of_o those_o which_o they_o call_v venial_a sin_n the_o papist_n error_n 61_o 1._o sin_n be_v voluntary_a otherwise_o it_o be_v no_o sin_n and_o therefore_o the_o passion_n that_o be_v in_o man_n have_v not_o the_o consent_n of_o will_n be_v far_o from_o sin_n and_o be_v not_o impute_v to_o any_o man_n neither_o for_o they_o need_v he_o say_v unto_o god_n forgive_v we_o our_o sin_n rhemist_n rom._n 7._o sec._n 8.9_o the_o protestant_n sin_n do_v without_o consent_n of_o the_o inward_a man_n be_v never_o impute_v but_o this_o must_v be_v understand_v only_o of_o the_o regenerate_a in_o who_o there_o be_v a_o new_a man_n bear_v of_o the_o spirit_n argum._n that_o involuntarie_a lust_n which_o arise_v in_o the_o heart_n not_o have_v the_o consent_n of_o will_n be_v in_o their_o nature_n sin_n it_o be_v evident_a by_o saint_n paul_n word_n rom._n 7.20_o if_o i_o do_v that_o i_o will_v not_o then_o be_v it_o not_o i_o any_o long_o that_o do_v it_o but_o sin_n that_o dwell_v in_o i_o he_o call_v it_o sin_n though_o he_o consent_v not_o unto_o it_o

105_o augustine_n say_v peccata_fw-la negligentiae_fw-la vel_fw-la ignorantiae_fw-la melius_fw-la accusantur_fw-la ut_fw-la pereant_fw-la quàm_fw-la excusantur_fw-la ut_fw-la maneant_fw-la meliusque_fw-la purgantur_fw-la invocato_fw-la deo_fw-la quàm_fw-la firmantur_fw-la irritato_fw-la deo_fw-la the_o sin_n of_o negligence_n and_o ignorance_n be_v better_o accuse_v and_o confess_v then_o excuse_v better_o by_o pray_v to_o god_n to_o purge_v they_o then_o by_o provoke_a god_n to_o confirm_v they_o ergo_fw-la forgiveness_n must_v be_v ask_v at_o god_n hand_n for_o involuntarie_a sin_n sin_n of_o ignorance_n the_o papist_n 2._o the_o motion_n of_o the_o flesh_n in_o a_o just_a man_n whereunto_o the_o mind_n of_o man_n consent_v not_o can_v any_o whit_n defile_v the_o operation_n of_o the_o spirit_n but_o error_n 62_o make_v they_o often_o more_o meritorious_a for_o the_o continual_a combat_n that_o he_o have_v with_o they_o for_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o the_o operation_n of_o the_o flesh_n and_o the_o spirit_n do_v not_o concur_v together_o to_o make_v one_o act_n rhemist_n rom._n 7._o sect_n 10._o the_o protestant_n ans._n though_o the_o operation_n of_o the_o flesh_n concur_v not_o with_o the_o spirit_n in_o any_o one_o act_n yet_o do_v they_o hinder_v the_o work_n of_o the_o spirit_n from_o perfection_n and_o therefore_o defile_v they_o argum._n rom._n 7.19_o saint_n paul_n say_v the_o good_a that_o i_o will_v do_v i_o not_o do_v not_o concupiscence_n even_o in_o this_o bless_a apostle_n hinder_v the_o proceed_n of_o the_o spirit_n when_o it_o keep_v he_o from_o do_v that_o good_a which_o he_o desire_v and_o whereas_o he_o cry_v out_o and_o desire_v to_o be_v deliver_v from_o that_o law_n of_o his_o member_n vers_fw-la 24._o it_o be_v not_o like_a that_o any_o merit_n or_o good_a thing_n can_v be_v obtain_v by_o it_o for_o than_o he_o shall_v rather_o have_v be_v desirous_a to_o have_v give_v it_o entertainment_n still_o augustine_n thus_o write_v of_o these_o small_a and_o less_o sin_n quibus_fw-la peccatis_fw-la licet_fw-la occidi_fw-la animam_fw-la non_fw-la credamus_fw-la 41._o ita_fw-la tamen_fw-la eam_fw-la veluti_fw-la quibusdam_fw-la pustulis_fw-la deformem_fw-la faciunt_fw-la ut_fw-la eam_fw-la ad_fw-la amplexum_fw-la sponsi_fw-la sine_fw-la grandi_fw-la confusione_n venire_fw-la non_fw-la permittant_fw-la by_o the_o which_o sin_n though_o the_o soul_n be_v not_o slay_v yet_o the_o face_n be_v deform_v as_o with_o pimple_n that_o she_o dare_v not_o without_o great_a blush_n draw_v near_o unto_o her_o spouse_n let_v they_o tell_v i_o now_o what_o great_a glory_n be_v obtain_v by_o this_o corruption_n in_o our_o member_n the_o four_o part_n whether_o all_o sin_n be_v remissible_a the_o papist_n all_o sin_n be_v pardonable_a so_o long_o as_o the_o committer_n of_o they_o be_v in_o case_n error_n 63_o to_o repent_v as_o they_o be_v so_o long_o as_o they_o live_v in_o this_o world_n it_o be_v great_a blasphemy_n therefore_o which_o the_o caluinist_n utter_v that_o apostasy_n and_o certain_a other_o sin_n of_o the_o reprobate_n can_v be_v forgive_v at_o all_o in_o this_o life_n rhemist_n 1._o john_n 1.5_o sec._n 4._o and_o therefore_o they_o say_v that_o blasphemy_n against_o the_o spirit_n be_v say_v to_o be_v irremissible_a because_o it_o be_v hardly_o forgive_v and_o they_o define_v sin_n against_o the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o be_v nothing_o else_o but_o final_a impenitency_n rhemist_n matth._n 12.4_o the_o protestant_n first_o sin_n against_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v not_o final_a impenitency_n every_o one_o indeed_o that_o so_o sin_v be_v final_o impenitent_a because_o he_o shall_v never_o have_v the_o grace_n to_o repent_v but_o our_o saviour_n christ_n mean_v some_o special_a sin_n in_o call_v it_o blasphemy_n against_o the_o holy_a ghost_n for_o many_o a_o wicked_a man_n may_v die_v impenitent_o and_o yet_o not_o blaspheme_v augustine_n better_a define_v this_o sin_n cum_fw-la quis_fw-la adversus_fw-la 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christ._n second_o augustine_n say_v so_o express_o that_o they_o do_v eat_v the_o same_o spiritual_a meat_n and_o drink_v the_o same_o spiritual_a cup_n that_o we_o do_v quicunque_fw-la in_o manna_n christum_fw-la intellexerunt_fw-la eundem_fw-la quem_fw-la nos_fw-la cibum_fw-la spiritualem_fw-la manducaverunt_fw-la de_fw-la utilitat_fw-la penitent_n cap._n 2._o they_o which_o in_o the_o eat_n of_o manna_n do_v understand_v christ_n do_v eat_v the_o same_o spiritual_a meat_n that_o we_o do_v ergo_fw-la christ_n be_v as_o well_o present_a by_o faith_n to_o they_o in_o their_o sacrament_n as_o he_o be_v to_o we_o in_o we_o the_o three_o part_n of_o the_o character_n or_o badge_n which_o as_o they_o say_v be_v imprint_v in_o the_o soul_n by_o the_o sacrament_n the_o papist_n first_o there_o be_v a_o certain_a seal_n and_o spiritual_a mark_n or_o badge_n imprint_v by_o the_o sacrament_n in_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o receiver_n which_o can_v never_o be_v blot_v error_n 94_o out_o neither_o 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of_o this_o indelible_a mark_n or_o character_n answ._n first_o the_o apostle_n speak_v manifest_o of_o the_o spiritual_a and_o inward_a seal_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n whereof_o baptism_n be_v a_o outward_a seal_n in_o our_o body_n second_o it_o be_v a_o absurd_a thing_n to_o hold_v that_o he_o that_o have_v utter_o and_o malicious_o renounce_v christianity_n and_o blaspheme_v christ_n himself_o shall_v still_o retain_v this_o character_n of_o baptism_n as_o a_o cognisance_n of_o his_o christendom_n three_o baptism_n be_v not_o reiterable_a that_o be_v to_o be_v iterate_v or_o repeat_v not_o because_o it_o leave_v a_o indelible_a character_n in_o the_o mind_n of_o the_o baptize_v which_o be_v but_o a_o mere_a devise_n and_o fancy_n but_o because_o as_o it_o suffice_v once_o to_o be_v bear_v in_o the_o flesh_n so_o once_o to_o be_v bear_v again_o and_o to_o be_v regenerate_v by_o the_o spirit_n of_o the_o which_o regeneration_n baptism_n be_v a_o seal_n and_o pledge_v it_o be_v sufficient_a as_o for_o confirmation_n and_o order_n we_o acknowledge_v they_o to_o be_v no_o sacrament_n and_o therefore_o to_o have_v no_o such_o indelible_a character_n the_o protestant_n that_o by_o baptism_n and_o some_o other_o sacrament_n there_o be_v imprint_v in_o the_o soul_n a_o mark_n or_o character_n which_o can_v never_o be_v blot_v out_o no_o not_o by_o apostasy_n and_o that_o this_o be_v the_o cause_n why_o baptism_n can_v be_v iterate_v we_o hold_v it_o to_o be_v a_o mere_a device_n and_o invention_n of_o man_n argum._n 1._o where_o the_o end_n and_o fruit_n of_o baptism_n be_v utter_o extinguish_v there_o can_v not_o remain_v any_o character_n or_o badge_n or_o sign_n of_o baptism_n the_o fruit_n of_o baptism_n be_v repentance_n and_o regeneration_n by_o the_o spirit_n but_o it_o be_v possible_a for_o these_o in_o some_o that_o be_v baptize_v to_o be_v utter_o lose_v as_o in_o they_o that_o fall_v away_o by_o apostasy_n they_o can_v be_v renew_v by_o repentance_n hebr._n 6.6_o therefore_o in_o such_o there_o be_v not_o to_o be_v find_v any_o character_n badge_n or_o sign_n of_o baptism_n which_o they_o have_v utter_o renounce_v only_o the_o memorial_n thereof_o be_v keep_v before_o god_n they_o be_v so_o much_o worse_o than_o they_o that_o be_v never_o baptize_v because_o they_o have_v wilful_o reject_v their_o profession_n argum._n 2._o the_o cause_n why_o baptism_n be_v but_o once_o to_o be_v give_v be_v not_o as_o they_o allege_v because_o it_o leave_v such_o a_o sure_a mark_n behind_o so_o deep_o dye_v in_o the_o soul_n that_o it_o can_v be_v blot_v out_o there_o be_v other_o cause_n that_o come_v near_o the_o truth_n 1._o as_o god_n be_v but_o one_o who_o make_v a_o covenant_n with_o we_o in_o baptism_n and_o the_o faith_n but_o one_o into_o the_o which_o we_o be_v enter_v by_o that_o sacrament_n so_o baptism_n be_v one_o and_o the_o same_o ephes._n 4.5_o 2._o the_o institution_n of_o god_n be_v another_o cause_n who_o have_v appoint_v the_o other_o sacrament_n often_o to_o be_v receive_v 1._o corinth_n 11.25_o but_o for_o the_o iteration_n of_o baptism_n we_o have_v no_o such_o commandment_n 3._o baptism_n come_v in_o the_o place_n of_o circumcision_n as_o that_o be_v but_o once_o administer_v so_o likewise_o it_o must_v be_v in_o the_o other_o 4._o in_o baptism_n god_n make_v a_o perpetual_a covenant_n with_o we_o which_o he_o always_o remember_v &_o therefore_o need_v not_o to_o be_v put_v in_o mind_n by_o the_o often_o use_v of_o that_o sacrament_n these_o and_o the_o like_a reason_n may_v be_v allege_v why_o baptism_n be_v not_o often_o to_o be_v require_v and_o not_o that_o which_o by_o they_o without_o any_o ground_n be_v pretend_v augustine_n be_v flat_a against_o they_o for_o the_o iteration_n of_o confirmation_n manus_fw-la impositio_fw-la non_fw-la sicut_fw-la baptismus_fw-la repeti_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la quid_fw-la

5._o the_o holy_a and_o bless_a babe_n in_o the_o constitution_n both_o of_o body_n and_o soul_n excel_v the_o common_a condition_n of_o all_o other_o infant_n for_o as_o he_o be_v void_a of_o original_a sin_n so_o he_o be_v without_o the_o effect_n and_o fruit_n thereof_o which_o do_v show_v themselves_o in_o child_n for_o neither_o suffer_v he_o the_o like_a pang_n and_o infirmity_n in_o body_n be_v in_o his_o infancy_n as_o other_o child_n do_v that_o be_v vex_v and_o torment_v in_o body_n neither_o be_v he_o subject_a to_o the_o unreasonable_a and_o brutish_a motion_n of_o the_o mind_n which_o be_v in_o child_n therefore_o augustine_n say_v hanc_fw-la ignorantiam_fw-la &_o animi_fw-la infirmitatem_fw-la quam_fw-la videmus_fw-la in_o paruulis_fw-la nullo_fw-la modo_fw-la fuerim_fw-la in_o christo_fw-la paruulo_fw-la suspicatus_fw-la this_o kind_n of_o ignorance_n and_o infirmity_n of_o mind_n which_o be_v in_o child_n i_o can_v think_v to_o have_v be_v in_o the_o babe_n christ._n and_o what_o ignorance_n and_o infirmity_n he_o mean_v afterward_o he_o express_v 29._o cum_fw-la motibus_fw-la irrationabilibus_fw-la perturbantur_fw-la nulla_fw-la ratione_fw-la nullo_fw-la imperio_fw-la cohibentur_fw-la when_o their_o brutish_a and_o unreasonable_a motion_n come_v upon_o they_o they_o be_v rule_v neither_o by_o reason_n nor_o any_o other_o government_n these_o infirmity_n both_o in_o body_n and_o soul_n we_o deny_v to_o have_v be_v in_o christ_n and_o yet_o we_o doubt_v not_o to_o conclude_v that_o as_o christ_n grow_v in_o stature_n of_o body_n as_o augustine_n say_v ibid._n mutationes_fw-la aetatum_fw-la perpeti_fw-la voluit_fw-la ab_fw-la ipsa_fw-la exorsus_fw-la infantia_fw-la he_o pass_v through_o the_o age_n of_o man_n life_n begin_v with_o his_o infancy_n so_o likewise_o as_o the_o scripture_n say_v he_o increase_v in_o wisdom_n luk._n 2.52_o a_o appendix_n of_o the_o manner_n of_o christ_n birth_n the_o papist_n they_o say_v christ_n come_v out_o of_o his_o mother_n womb_n the_o clausure_n not_o stir_v as_o error_n 99_o he_o pass_v through_o the_o door_n when_o he_o come_v in_o to_o his_o disciple_n the_o door_n be_v shut_v john_n 20.19_o and_o as_o he_o pass_v through_o the_o stone_n arise_v out_o of_o the_o sepulchre_n rhemist_n annot_v john_n 20._o sect_n 2._o bellarm._n de_fw-fr eccles._n lib._n 4._o cap._n 9_o the_o protestant_n 1._o it_o can_v never_o be_v prove_v that_o christ_n body_n come_v either_o through_o the_o wood_n of_o the_o door_n or_o through_o the_o stone_n of_o the_o sepulchre_n or_o clausure_n of_o his_o mother_n womb_n and_o concern_v the_o last_o the_o scripture_n be_v evident_a to_o the_o contrary_a where_o it_o be_v say_v that_o our_o saviour_n christ_n be_v present_v to_o the_o lord_n according_a as_o it_o be_v write_v every_o male_n that_o first_o open_v the_o matrix_fw-la etc._n etc._n luk._n 2.29_o 2._o we_o grant_v that_o both_o the_o birth_n of_o christ_n his_o rise_n out_o of_o the_o grave_n his_o come_n in_o the_o door_n be_v shut_v be_v strange_a and_o miraculous_a because_o one_o substance_n give_v place_n to_o another_o for_o a_o time_n and_o after_o the_o pass_v of_o his_o body_n the_o place_n remain_v whole_a and_o shut_v as_o before_o but_o not_o in_o the_o very_a instant_n of_o pass_v the_o red_a sea_n give_v place_n to_o the_o israelite_n while_o they_o pass_v and_o close_v together_o again_o so_o do_v the_o prison_n door_n open_v miraculous_o to_o the_o apostle_n act._n 5.19_o a_o incredulous_a jew_n see_v the_o ear_n of_o malchus_n so_o soon_o heal_v will_v not_o have_v think_v that_o peter_n sword_n go_v between_o it_o and_o his_o head_n as_o we_o be_v sure_a it_o do_v so_o we_o say_v concern_v the_o birth_n of_o christ_n that_o the_o place_n give_v way_n while_o he_o pass_v and_o close_v up_o afterward_o again_o as_o before_o augustine_n bring_v in_o christ_n thus_o speak_v ego_fw-la viam_fw-la meo_fw-la itineri_fw-la praeparavi_fw-la and_o a_o little_a after_o transitu_fw-la meo_fw-la illius_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la corrupta_fw-la virginitas_fw-la 5._o i_o make_v a_o way_n for_o myself_o out_o of_o the_o womb_n neither_o by_o my_o passage_n be_v her_o virginity_n lose_v christ_n have_v a_o way_n out_o of_o his_o mother_n womb_n but_o if_o the_o clausure_n have_v not_o give_v place_n there_o have_v be_v no_o way_n make_v 57_o again_o he_o say_v spatia_fw-la locorum_fw-la tolle_fw-la corporibus_fw-la nusquam_fw-la erunt_fw-la &_o quia_fw-la nusquam_fw-la erunt_fw-la nec_fw-la erunt_fw-la take_v away_o space_n of_o place_n from_o body_n and_o they_o shall_v be_v no_o where_o and_o if_o they_o be_v not_o where_o then_o be_v they_o not_o at_o all_o but_o the_o papist_n in_o say_v that_o christ_n go_v through_o the_o very_a substance_n and_o corpulence_n of_o thing_n do_v take_v away_o from_o his_o body_n his_o proper_a place_n for_o two_o substance_n can_v be_v in_o one_o place_n and_o therefore_o they_o destroy_v the_o nature_n of_o his_o body_n the_o three_o part_n whether_o christ_n suffer_v in_o soul_n the_o papist_n they_o utter_o deny_v that_o christ_n feel_v any_o pain_n or_o anguish_n in_o soul_n upon_o the_o error_n 100_o cross_n otherwise_o then_o for_o grief_n of_o his_o bodily_a torment_n but_o do_v charge_v they_o with_o horrible_a blasphemy_n that_o do_v so_o affirm_v rhemist_n math._n 27._o sect_n 3._o 1._o the_o scripture_n do_v ascribe_v the_o work_n of_o our_o redemption_n and_o reconciliation_n only_o to_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n upon_o the_o cross_n coloss._n 1.20_o ephes._n 1.7_o ergo_fw-la the_o death_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n without_o any_o further_a anguish_n in_o soul_n be_v sufficient_a bellarm._n de_fw-fr christi_fw-la anima_fw-la lib._n 4._o cap._n 8._o ans._n 1._o by_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n upon_o the_o cross_n must_v needs_o be_v understand_v all_o the_o part_n and_o circumstance_n of_o his_o passion_n both_o his_o suffering_n in_o body_n and_o soul_n for_o if_o it_o shall_v be_v understand_v proper_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n only_o be_v sufficient_a and_o so_o his_o body_n and_o flesh_n shall_v be_v exclude_v and_o if_o the_o shed_n of_o his_o blood_n be_v take_v simple_o we_o shall_v find_v that_o it_o be_v no_o part_n of_o his_o death_n for_o his_o side_n be_v pierce_v whereout_o issue_v water_n and_o blood_n after_o he_o have_v yield_v up_o the_o ghost_n and_o all_o the_o torment_n of_o death_n be_v pass_v yea_o after_o he_o have_v utter_v these_o word_n upon_o the_o cross_n it_o be_v finish_v that_o be_v he_o have_v pay_v the_o full_a ransom_n for_o mankind_n john_n 19_o vers_fw-la 30.34_o wherefore_o by_o his_o blood_n must_v be_v understand_v by_o a_o synecdoche_n when_o one_o part_n be_v take_v for_o the_o whole_a all_o the_o other_o pain_n and_o torment_n which_o he_o suffer_v in_o his_o flesh_n second_o yea_o and_o the_o pain_n of_o the_o soul_n to_o be_v by_o that_o speech_n fit_o express_v for_o the_o blood_n of_o every_o creature_n be_v the_o life_n thereof_o genes_n 9.4_o levit._fw-la 17.14_o but_o the_o soul_n be_v the_o life_n of_o man_n ergo_fw-la not_o unproper_o by_o the_o shed_n of_o christ_n blood_n even_o the_o vexation_n and_o at_o the_o last_o the_o expiration_n of_o his_o soul_n and_o so_o his_o whole_a passion_n both_o in_o body_n and_o soul_n be_v signify_v wherefore_o as_o in_o those_o place_n allege_v we_o read_v the_o blood_n of_o christ_n or_o the_o blood_n of_o the_o cross_n so_o otherwhere_o in_o more_o general_a term_n the_o apostle_n call_v it_o the_o die_a of_o christ_n 2._o cor._n 4.10_o and_o the_o suffering_n of_o christ_n 1._o pet._n 4.13_o argum._n 2._o if_o christ_n when_o he_o cry_v out_o upon_o the_o cross_n o_o god_n my_o god_n why_o have_v thou_o forsake_v i_o have_v feel_v the_o wrath_n of_o god_n and_o despair_v of_o his_o help_n he_o shall_v most_o greevous_o have_v sin_v bellarm._n ibid._n ans._n 1._o it_o can_v be_v that_o christ_n thus_o cry_v out_o for_o the_o pain_n of_o bodily_a death_n for_o than_o he_o have_v be_v of_o great_a infirmity_n than_o many_o of_o his_o servant_n that_o in_o the_o midst_n of_o extreme_a torment_n never_o complain_v and_o therefore_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v the_o burden_n of_o the_o wrath_n and_o curse_n of_o god_n that_o he_o endure_v for_o our_o sin_n that_o make_v he_o so_o to_o cry_v out_o upon_o the_o cross_n 2._o neither_o do_v it_o follow_v that_o christ_n utter_v those_o word_n in_o despair_n but_o only_o to_o show_v the_o great_a anguish_n trouble_n and_o perturbation_n of_o his_o spirit_n be_v upon_o the_o cross_n consider_v now_o as_o a_o mere_a man_n his_o divine_a nature_n and_o power_n repress_v and_o hide_v itself_o for_o a_o time_n and_o although_o in_o the_o vexation_n of_o his_o soul_n he_o thus_o cry_v out_o yet_o he_o be_v not_o altogether_o leave_v comfortless_a in_o spirit_n in_o that_o he_o say_v my_o god_n

my_o god_n which_o word_n must_v needs_o declare_v a_o inward_a confidence_n and_o assure_a trust_n in_o god_n the_o protestant_n we_o hold_v it_o be_v necessary_a for_o our_o redemption_n that_o christ_n shall_v not_o only_o suffer_v bodily_a pain_n but_o also_o feel_v the_o very_a anguish_n and_o horror_n of_o soul_n that_o as_o by_o his_o death_n we_o be_v redeem_v both_o body_n and_o soul_n so_o he_o shall_v pay_v the_o ransom_n for_o both_o in_o his_o body_n and_o soul_n 1._o that_o our_o saviour_n suffer_v great_a anguish_n in_o soul_n the_o scripture_n testify_v for_o before_o his_o suffer_v in_o his_o body_n upon_o the_o cross_n be_v in_o the_o garden_n he_o say_v of_o himself_o my_o soul_n be_v heavy_a unto_o death_n at_o the_o same_o time_n be_v grievous_o trouble_v he_o sweat_v water_n and_o blood_n and_o last_o of_o all_o hang_v upon_o the_o cross_n he_o cry_v out_o by_o those_o effect_n it_o be_v evident_o prove_v that_o there_o be_v a_o great_a fear_n in_o he_o then_o 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