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A65877	The pernicious way of the rigid presbyter and antichristian ministers detected and several weighty matters (in controversie, betwixt Sion and her adversaires, or between the true church and the false) discussed : to inform both magistrates, ministers, and people,	Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723.	1662 (1662)	Wing W1945; ESTC R22439	27,993	34

in reference to his manifestation in time for their sakes that were lost in the first Adam and yet he is the first and the last M. C. Those that were of the number of Gods Elect in Ages past waited for the Son of God from Heaven who was raised from the dead 1 Thes. 1.4 10. Now sure I am that 't was the visible Body of Flesh which was dead and raised from the dead which the Saints waited for and in pag. 43. Our Faith and full perswasion that Christ is a visible glorified man leads us to expect his second coming as a distinct appearance from and not in his People c. Answer 1. If the Saints of God in ages past and the number of the Elect did after Christ's Ascension wait for his visible Body of flesh from Heaven as here he implies then it appears in their dayes they waited in vain and missed of their expectations if so and this would render their Hope and Faith in the coming of Christ of none effect But the Apostle witnessed the contrary as in 1 Thes. 1.9 10. when the Thessalonians were turned from Idols then they waited for the Son of God from Heaven and Ch. 4.15 We which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord c. So the Saints though in part they were then eye witnesses of the coming and glory of the Lord yet they grew further in the knowledge of the several operations appearances and out-goings of him whose out-going have been from of old as they grew from glory to glory by the same Spirit 2 Cor. 3.18 and the Apostles made known unto men the power and coming of the Lord Jesus Christ which power wrought in them and they that looked for Christ in the Apostles dayes it was promised unto them that he should appear the second time without sin unto Salvation Heb. 9.28 which if this coming of Christ was the coming of a visible Body of flesh then the Saints in ages past did not attain to the coming of Christ in their dayes nor yet to Salvation from sin which erroneous conclusion that follows from M. C. his assertion no wise man will own for if the Saints in their dayes did not experience the coming of Christ unto their Salvation from sin then where and in what state are they now that are so long since deceased doth he suppose them to be in some Purgatory Surely M. C. is very ignorant both of the spiritual knowledge coming and work of Christ which was known in the Saints and not carnally expected afar off as he doth who would shut Christ and his coming out of his People And where in pag. 44. as his proofs he cites Rev. 22.20 where it 's said Surely I come quickly even so come Lord Jesus and Act. 7. touching Stephen his looking up into Heaven and seeing Jesus standing at the right hand of God what doth M. C. suppose that whereas Christ promised to come quickly and John so prayed for his coming quickly that this was a coming in a visible Body of flesh or that Stephen did see a visible Body of flesh in Heaven with carnal eyes as he seems so much to imply This is gross Ignorance for Stephen's being full of the Holy Ghost was the ground and cause of his seeing Heaven open and the Son of man standing at the right hand of God As also in pag. 40. he denies That it was the eternal Spirit that prayed in the man Christ Joh. 17. and denies Jesus Christ to be the Annointing but only the Anointed Wherein his ignorance may be apparent to all that can see who read this for Christ and his Father are one who said The Son can do nothing of himself and as being a quickning Spirit and the Seed of Promise he is both the Anointing and the Anointed not divided though the manifestations of him as such are several and his operations divers in the Saints And as concerning Christ dwelling in the Saints M. C. his interpretation of it is That he is deep in their affections much and oft in their thoughts and meditations and for proof brings Phil. 1.7 2 Cor. 7.3 touching the Saints being in one anothers hearts Answer But Christ doth not appear to be very deep in M. C. his affections or meditations who would keep him out of his People as several of his Principles imply who now would have Christ only to be but often in the thoughts and meditations of his People which doth not fully reach the Being of Christ in the Saints to operate act move and Rule in his Members who are in him and he in them giving them life dominion and peace whose life is manifest in their mortal Bodies and he dwelling in their hearts by Faith which is more than to be often in their thoughts and meditations as if he might be often forgotten And whereas M. C. makes a great cavilling against that Doctrin of the Light of Christ being placed in People as to be a sufficient Rule and of such a Light being in every man and saith That Humphry Smith in the face of men and Devils affirmeth That there is no other Rule Wayes means or Name by which man shall ever come to walk with God but by that which is manifest of God in him And in opposition to this Doctrine M. C. goes about to set the Scriptures outward Commands and Teachings as usless if there be such a Light in men pag. 48. and eight or more times in his scorn he reiterates these words viz. Turn to the Light within saith the Quaker pag. 49 50. Answer That of the Light of Christ being a sufficient Rule and being in some measure universally extended to all as Christ enlightens every man is a Truth which indeed we do vindicate both against men and Devils who doth oppose it for it appears it is the Devils and such as are led by them that oppose this Principle and that is the reason why we are constrained so much to appear against them in it to their faces And we in owning the sufficiency of this Light in men do neither make void nor disown the Scriptures nor true outward Teaching knowing that by the Light or that which may be known of God within men come to see and feel the right end and use of outward Teaching and the Scriptures for the Spirit of Truth leadeth into all Truth and where the Light of Christ within is believed and obeyed it leadeth out of darkness and out of the wayes and works of darkness into the path and way of the Just which is a shining Light that shineth more and more until the perfect day Prov. 4.18 But there is a Generation that rejects and rebels against the Light that knows not the wayes of it because they do not abide in the paths of it Job 24.13 And though we do own outward Teaching so far as it tends to direct peoples minds to the Light of Christ within and the Scriptures in their place yet we know that God is not limitted or tyed to those outward things as if none could be saved or had a true Rule to walk with God by but they who have the letter of the Scriptures and outward Teaching for the extent of the Grace of God which bringeth Salvation is larger than so it having appeared to all men and is sufficient to teach to deny ungodliness and worldly lusts and to live righteously c. Tit. 2.11 Rom. 5.18 and many have this Grace given them that have neither the Scriptures nor the outward ministration of the Gospel though it be preached in every Creature 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Col. 1.23 yet where and as the Lord is pleased to send outward Teaching it is of use as to the turning of People to the Light of Christ which shineth in the hearts to give the Light of the knowledge of the Glory of God in the face of Christ 2 Cor. 4.6 M. C. in pag. 48. saith of the Apostles What were they to preach to them not that one thing of turning to the Light their Teacher within but all things whatsoever Mat. 28.19 20. all the Counsel of God Act. 20.27 Answ. What were the Apostles to preach all things whatsoever all the Counsel of God and yet not the Light within What was that none of the Counsel of God Herein this man hath more lost himself than ever and yet he is made in general words to confess that Christ was set to be a Light of the Gentiles and what were they not to turn to his Light within This is gross ignorance and error for Christ who is come a Light into the world that whosoever believeth in him might have everlasting Life and who is given a Light to enlighten the Gentiles Luk. 2.32 is the way to the Father and the Way the Truth and the Life and his Life is the Light of men Joh. 1.4 9. And did not the Apostles preach to turn men to his Light that one thing in them I see for all M. C. his scoffing and cavilling against the Light within and our exhorting men to turn to it it stands over him and his folly and deceit though so often over he hath reiterated his canting language against the Light within more like the sturdy Beggars or a Ballad-singer or a Stage-player than a consciencious zealous Professor And the truth of this our Doctrin of the Light within will remain and live when all empty Professions carnal Ordinances Traditions and Will-worships which are upheld or practised without the guidance of the Light of Christ within will wither fall and come to naught as will all formal wilful and dry Professors who make war against and oppose the Light within and them that are in it Many more of M. C. his absurdities and slanders against the Truth and us I here omit as not worth either mentioning or taking notice of London Written near the beginning of the first Month 1662 From a living and tryed Witness of the powerful Truth GEORGE WHITEHEAD THE END

Man For neither is the Man without the Woman nor the Woman without the Man in the Lord and the Apostle admits of Womens praying and Prophecying in the Spirit of Truth And as there were true Prophets so there were true Prophetesses spoken of in the Scriptures both of the Old and New Testament Exod. 15.20 Judg. 4.4 2 King 22.14 Neh. 6.14 Isa. 8.3 Luk. 2.36 Act. 21.9 And it is said Your Sons and Daughters shall Prophesie Joel 2. Act. 2. And did not Women Preach the Resurrection of Christ soon after he was risen Luk. 24.10 And that saying That a man can never be a Woman I say in some sence some Men may be accounted Women as the false Prophets in Israel and the Women that ruled over the People when Children were their Oppressors Isa. 3.12 Chap. 32. Jer. 51.30 Ezek. 13. and such as were deceived and led captive in the Apostles dayes were called silly VVomen 2 Tim. 3. And to his saying pag. 18. That the whole Country and he thinks the whole Land is acquainted with Anne Audlands presumptuous speaking in our Assembly and surely Anne Audland cannot deny but that she is a VVoman Answer As for presumptuous speaking that is not proved against Anne Audland but is denied as a slander and when at any time the Spirit of the Lord hath moved in Anne Andland to speak or in any other Daughter or Hand-maid of the Lord the Spirit ought not to be quenched nor Prophesie to be despised whether it proceed from true Prophets or Prophetesses See further of this matter in G. F. his Book concerning Sons and Daughters and Prophetesses speaking c. And as for C. VV. his Rhime in the end of his Book where he saith Instead of Papists are the Quakers come Disturbing all these parts of Christendom Their Plots are Hellish too their Deeds are evil Both boast of Christ no more my Muse is civil Answer Herein the world may see what a vain light and false spirit this man is acted by who hath herein appeared in the practice of Drunkards such as made Songs of David Psal. 69.12 or Fiddlers in his lying Rhime against us and when he hath falsly charged us with Hellish Plots and evil Deeds then saith his Muse is civil wherein he hath appeared more like a Fiddler or a Stage-player than a Minister of Christ and many more of these falshoods slanders and absurdities there are which I forbear to mention And as to his saying pag. 13. That here is the last Answer that ever he intended to send to the Quakers c. I say indeed more prudence had he manifested if he had kept silent than he hath done in many things he hath asserted and silence hereafter may be more safe for him and his Brethren than to utter words without knowledge And now I shall leave our Cause and the Controversie that is betwixt C. VV. and us to the Lord and all sober People to judge of Here followeth something concerning the true Christ and his being in his People in Answer to Matthew Caffin c. HAving lately met with a Book of Matthew Caffin's the latter part of which is entituled The great Error and Mistake of the Quakers concerning the true Christ and how he is said to be in his People c. Wherein he doth much wrong both that People and their Principles and abused the Truth it self and therefore I saw it expedient to note a few particular things upon some of the chief heads of his matter both for the clearing of the Truth and for the discovery of his ignorance and confusion to him and the rest of the Baptists since that he hath been such an old and eminent opposer of the Truth as many can testifie and as appears his malice and envy was so high against the People called Quakers that he hath vomited out his own shame against them whereby to render them odious in the sight of their enemies and that in such times as these wherein they are made as the greatest object of mens hatred persecution and cruelty which they have in a great measure undergone and are liable still to undergo more of the same from which suffering the Baptists themselves are not altogether free if they be faithful to their own Principles So that long ere this they might have learned more wisdom moderation and discretion than so to revile us now in the sight of our enemies as Matthew Caffin who is one of their Leaders hath done And now whereas in his matter against the Quakers he beg to relate some mens experiences in this wise viz. Certain men being troubled about their present conditions and thereupon following after as more excellent estate have on a sudden been greatly carried forth with inward power and zeal and wonderful quicknings after some matters of holiness so as scarce able to bear with the least appearance of pride covetousness or the like in others without reproof and at length have been secretly informed that the powerful working within them was Christ come in them c. but being somewhat fearful of delusions did thereupon give up themselves diligently to pray unto the Lord who at length graciously delivered them from the strong delusion c. To which I answer So it appears that these motions and operations did arise from a true power in those People which so far was the manifestation of Christ to and in them that they were not only led to follow after a state of holiness but also upon their praying diligently to the Lord he so far returned an acceptable answer to them as that he graciously delivered them from the strong delusion But mark Matthew Caffin's very next words and what a conclusion he hath made touching these inward motions and operations I say saith he the strong delusion for is it not so indeed when an evil spirit shall carry forth persons zealously to some things that is just holy and good though he no lover of holiness but really an Angel of darkness that seemingly may appear to be an Angel of light c. See how M. C. hath herein contradicted his former words and what gross ignorance and error he is in now to conclude that an evil spirit and an Angel of darkness carries forth persons zealously to things that be just holy and good and of such persons also he speaks this as before he confessed the Lord did graciously at length deliver them from strong delusion and so he hath done no better than put light for darkness and darkness for light And who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean And further mark how in the next page he hath again confuted himself for there he tells you That the one and the true Spirit of God being plainly to be known by his guiding and moving the Saints not only to be just holy and zealous in point of Conversation but also steadfast in the Principles of Faith c. when before he said it was an evil spirit that carries

forth persons zealously to things that is just holy and good and now he tells you it is the true Spirit of God and so is plainly to be known it 's well that at length he speaks some Truth though to his own confusion as all that are sober may easily see M. C. accuseth one of us with saying That Christ was never seen with any carnal eye nor his voice heard with any carnal ear and to prove it cites a Book entituled A Declaration to the Baptists pag. 13. and another with saying That the Flesh of Christ is a Figure for which he cites Saul's Errand c. pag. 14. To the former of which I say Christ as he is truly to be seen and known in the Spirit is a mistery not seen nor heard with the carnal eye or ear with which agreeth his saying viz. He that seeth me seeth him that sent me who is not carnally to be seen neither had the unbelievers either heard the voice of God or seen his shape though he spake by his Son Christ and some that outwardly Christ spake to understood not what he said because they heard not his Word Joh. 8.19 43. 12.45 2. And as for the words in Saul's Errand p. 14. what is said of Christ there as also in pag. 8. hath relation to his coming in the flesh as therein being an example as in Pet. 2.21 and not in relation to the receiving his flesh in the mistery as it is the Believers meat for that is the substance but as to his outward manifestation in the flesh he was God an example which was the very intent of the words Example or Figure being used in the said Book for in some sence they have relation to one thing as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and whether is it better for us to say that Christ as in the flesh was an example or for M. Caffin to say That in one sence the flesh of Christ profited nothing as he hath in pag. 41 set any rational man judge of this And M. C. saith That the eternal Spirit which dwelt in the man whom the Jews crucified which Spirit the Apostles received in them is not the Christ the Saviour of the world but the visible man c. I answer Here he seems to divide the man Christ from the eternal Spirit and so hath denied the eternal Spirit to be Christ but saith the visible man is Christ when as the Apostle saith The last Adam was made a quickning Spirit and the Lord is that Spirit 1 Cor. 15.2 Cor. 3. And if the eternal Spirit be not the Christ but the visible man then it follows that when the Apostle preacht that Jesus Christ was in the Saints he did not intend that the eternal Spirit was in them but the visible man which is both absurd and false But in answer to several cavils and objections made against us we own the true Christ both as he was of the seed of David according to the flesh and in the dayes of his flesh that he was the true Christ but not without the eternal Spirit and the Son of God with power according to the Spirit of holiness who said Before Abraham was I am and as to his dying and rising again according to the Scriptures and as now glorified with the Father in the same glory that he was in before the world was This we confess according to the Scriptures without any such blind distinction as M. C. hath unjustly cast upon us And M.C. saith That the Quakers to deceive intend not the Truth namely that the visible man whom the Jews crucified wi●hout was the Christ. Answer This is a slander for they confess that Christ was crucified and died as concerning the flesh but was quickned by the Spirit 1 Pet. 3.18 M. C. God thereby bearing false witness to the world if the eternal Spirit which the Apostles afterward received in them be the Christ which Spirit never was slain never had blood to shed Answer This tends not only to render the Apostles as false witnesses who knew Christ in them and dwelling in their hearts and the second man to be made a quickning Spirit though before that he was known by some after the flesh and in the dayes of his flesh but also M. C. hath contradicted himself in pag. 46. where speaking of Christ of whom the Jews said he had a Devil but the Disciples knew him to be the Spirit of Truth he saith and in pag. 42. M. C. saith of Christ viz. Yet now henceforth saith the Apostle know we him so no more that is to esteem him upon that account viz. upon his being born of the Tribe of Judah and of the Seed of Abraham or for that reason meritoriously the Saviour of the World but rather upon the account of his coming down from Heaven his being the Son of God c. How sadly is M. C. lost and confounded herein one while to deny the eternal Spirit to be the Christ and to say but it was the visible man that was Christ another while to say as that he is not to be known or esteemed upon his being born of the Tribe of Judah but upon the account of his coming down from Heaven what then was he a visible man as he came down from Heaven or as he came of the Tribe of Judah and Seed of Abraham Here all may see this mans gross ignorance and confusion And what if the eternal Spirit never was slain never had blood to shed as in M. C. his account it doth not follow therefore that he is not a Spirit who descended from Heaven as such a one and in time took upon him flesh and blood Heb. 2.14 and was put to death as concerning the flesh who was the true Christ both in the dayes of his flesh in that low estate of suffering and in the state of Glory wherein he was before the world began And as to his condescention low estate and suffering as manifest in his People who have born in their Bodies the dying of the Lord and his blood or life which is poured forth and freely laid down of himself and fed upon in the Mistery by the Believers M. C. is not in a capacity to receive what might be said thereof And now to mend the matter he saith of Christ his being a quickning Spirit That if the Spirit as Spirit be the last or second Adam then it follows that the first man Adam who was of the earth earthly was first and before the eternal quickning Spirit pag. 42. 43. Answer Would any rational man have laid down such an absurdity as this for here he cannot deny but that the second Adam was made a quickning Spirit as in 1 Cor. 15. but would not have him as a Spirit to be the last or second Adam for if the Spirit as Spirit saith he so he would render the Apostles words false but I say Christ being called the second Adam which is the Lord from Heaven was