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A32898	An old apostate justly exposed his treachery to the Holy God, his truth and people manifested, his great wickedness and uncleanness (which, by false covers, he has endeavoured to hide) laid open to the shame of him, and all his abettors : in a short answer, or some brief remarks, upon a very scandalous book lately published, stiled, The spirit of Quakerism, and the danger of their divine revelation laid open, subscribed, Henry Winder : also the nameless publisher therof, as justly reprehended for his enmity and great malice, in abusing an innocent people, by heaps of most gross lies, slanders, base insinuations and inferences, frothy and scurrilous scoffs and taunts, so void of Christianity, that probably no man, with a name, would undertake / by Thomas Camm.	Camm, Thomas, 1641-1707.	1698 (1698)	Wing C396; ESTC R21826	31,372	63

pretending constant Prophetical Revelation from him meaning Christ deny his Work aforesaid and that he has done his VVork deny that he is come or worse nay that he ever was to come or needs to come c. Answ What a Crotchet this Man has in his Head about the word Extraordinary I know not but that That Jesus described in Scripture was to seal up Vision and Prophecy or to give such perfect Discovery of God's Counsel and Will to the World by what is writeen in Holy Scripture That the Spirit 's Gifts of Illumination should be no more necessary nor continued is denied as Erroneous and that of Dan. 9.24 instanced to prove the same is no Proof thereof in the least without miserable wresting and misconstruing the same A thing he falsly chargeth upon the Quakers but declares his own Guilt therein And there is great necessity for the continued Help and Illumination of the Holy Spirit for without the Illumination thereof we can neither know God nor the things of God For as saith the Scripture the things of God know no Man but by his Spirit being that which searcheth into the revealeth the deep things of God and is given of God to lead into all Truth whom the World cannot receive because it seeth him not neither knoweth him But you know him for he dwelleth with you and shall be in you Read John 14 16 17. And it 's in and by the Illumination of this Spirit that Christ revealeth himself unto his Chosen and through which the true Believers in Christ are enabled to keep his Words Such the Father loveth and to such the Father and Son cometh in this Eternal Spirit and maketh their abode with Read also Verses 22 23. And that the Quakers deny the Work of Christ that he was to come did come or need to come or what is worse his false Insinuation amounts to a four-fold Lye and a great Slander And to make his Slander greater in what 's worse let him tell what 's worse if he can than what he has before falsly charged It seems his Mouth is full of bitter Stuff and such he vents without regard to Truth or Honesty being so drunken with Enmity to vomit out his own Shame and Filth yet perhaps looks upon himself safe in concealing his Name 31. And further in the Page last mentioned he will needs be either a Reviler or Deceiver in telling what the Quakers may be viz. It 's but saith he to consult their Light it will give Response like that cum fueris Romae c. Then enter Father Molenos all is done they may in a new Sense as their Inward Christ will not fail to tell them become all things to all Men as already in Habits and Gestures so might be Papists and Turks c. Answ How this Man who pretends great Reverence to Scripture and the Ministers of Christ Jesus Reflects upon both by his false and ungrounded Inferences For did not the Apostles become all Things to all Men Namely for the gaining of some to the Truth yet upon no occasion became either Papists or Turks Neither did the Apostles nor Christ within the Hope of Glory without which all are Reprobates ever give this Man's Response who more and more expresseth himself to be altogether regardless of Truth Honesty or fair Dealing But to proceed 32. In Page 38 he saith One most fatally intoxicating Notion I take to be that of the Saving Grace of God in all Men What could Men devise more proud and provoking to bring all God's Remedial Provisions into Contempt I can see nothing it saves unless they mean It saves them all Care and Pains in working out their Salvation for no People sleeps so secure as they without all Fear or Spiritual Conflict Answ Such a Graceless as well as Blasphemous Aspersion as none but a graceless Man or such an one as has turned from Grace into Wantonness and great Enmity having done despite to the Spirit of Grace with his Name to it will or dare to Assert being so positive a Contradiction to Holy Scripture Titus 2.12 13. For the Grace of God that bringeth Salvation hath appeared to all Men teaching Us the Believers and Obeyers thereof that denying all ungodliness and worldly Lusts we should live Soberly Righteously and Godlily in this present World Is this Advice proud and provoking to bring all God's Remedial Provisions to Contempt Let him take heed whom he provokes by such Blasphemies the Text saying It 's the Grace of God that bringeth to Salvation Then surely it's Saving being God's Grace by which the Saints were saved through Faith in our Lord Jesus Christ for they said by Grace we are saved It taught them as aforesaid being that Grace coming by Jesus Christ the Saviour of all that are saved and appears within as it is of God because that which may be known of God is manifest in them for God hath shewed it unto them Rom. 1.19 And who are taught by this Grace that appeareth unto all Men comes to Salvation being God's Gift through Jesus Christ the Saviour tho' too too many to whom it appears and is Inwardly revealed doth Despite thereto denies to be Taught thereby turns it into Wantonness becomes thereby vain in their Imaginations and their foolish Hearts come to be darkened frustrating on their behalfs the Merciful end of God on the account of the appearance of his Grace to them the same that otherwise is intended for their Salvation So that Man's Destruction is of himself but Help and Salvation only of the Lord who gives the appearance of this Grace unto all Men and Wills thereby the Salvation of all not the Death of any Sinner but rather that he should come to be taught by this Grace and be saved and live So that this Man manifests both his Pride and Provocation against God's Grace and the Divine Testimony thereto in the Holy Scripture as well as slighting the Teaching thereof and Ignorance of its blessed Work in calling it A fatally intoxicating Notion proud and provoking as aforesaid c. That he can see nothing it saves from except c. It 's not like he should see or know what it saves from who Blasphemes against it neither knows what Spiritual Conflicts they have who are taught by it nor the sufficiency thereof to support through them all as it was said of God to be to the Apostle Paul to wit My Grace is sufficient being thereby strengthened in the time of need But to proceed In the same Page last mentioned he goes on and calls what before he called One most fatally intoxicating Notion Now this one Anti-Scriptural Conceit Answ But how far he is wrong and abusive in this and how agreeable the Testimony we bear on behalf of the Grace of God is correspondent and agreeing with Divine Testimony I leave to the wise in Heart to judge He is resolved to abuse us tho' it will at last turn upon himself with Shame 33.

He goes on in a frantick Fit of Railing in which I confess him to be a very great Artist excepting that his Heat runs him into Contradiction but has made notable provision to keep himself hid whatever he say tho' never so Wicked and False by concealing his Name he saith No Guide so slippery as that they have chosen a very Proteus c. They can confess or deny Christ's coming in the Flesh they can own or disown his Satisfaction and Righteousness value or deride and decry his Benefits Grace and Word pro re nata the Anti-Christ's in St. John's Days were honest Men to you c. Prov. 14.16 A wise Man feareth and departeth from Evil but the Fool rageth and is confident Answ Is it not he that decries and disowns the Benefits of God Doth not he say He sees nothing that it saves and has not he chosen the slippery Guide the very Proteus The Quakers saith he can own or disown value or decry his slippery Guide leads him into Confusion and Self-Contradiction For if they do value as he saith they can do then they cannot deride and decry Christ's Benefits Grace and Word neither do for all his clamourous Noise against them who would render them worse than the Anti-Christ's in St. John's time nay these Anti-Christs honest Men comparing as aforesaid yet fails in demonstrating in what their Honesty consisted I conclude they had none and if he have any none of it appears And how aptly that Text in Prov. 14.16 is applicable to him sober Reader judge In Page the 40th I find another Piece full stuffed with Lyes Slanders and perfect Reviling viz. Then is Quakerism contrary to the Doctrine that is of God I know what Respect they give it since a good Act of Parliament taught them what to say for Peace But how else do they yet honour it And till they do what sort of Christians can they be c. Christians I find those called who received Christ's and his Apostles Doctrine about the Person and Office of Christ c. 34. But these meaning the Quakers do not they hereby confess another Christ c. Answ First let the Reader observe this Man's Confusion and Contradiction for in Page 30 he saith viz. We never knew or shall know what is the Doctrine of Quakerism Yet in Page 40 affirms it to be contrary to the Doctrine that is of God Can he or any Man else tell what that is that he never knew nor shall know But such Stuff as is in an unclean Vessel must out when it opens and the nauseous smell thereof declares whence it comes It 's his great Abuse of us to say A good Act of Parliament taught us c. We were taught we bless the Lord before that good Act how to believe in and what to say of the Doctrine of God and Holy Scripture But no doubt this obscure Man is very Angry that the Parliament should Believe or take Notice of our Sincere and Christian Confession and Belief thereof and vouchsafe unto us any Liberty Peace or Ease since he endeavours to Unchristian us and insinuate that we do not yet honour the said Doctrine and at last say we do not in plain Words as above Also insinuating we confess another Christ which is false And is not all this to expose us to Persecution and the Wrath of Men Yea he farther manifests his Design elsewhere As Page 35. Thus Against G. K. and Christ without they 'll bear Testimony but none against the late King James and Popery Again in Page 39. Thus But what 's the matter that we so seldom hear of their Messages to Magistrates and Ministers now adays Why none to King William and his Parliament as to Oliver and his c. Mark the peaceable Mind and Innocency of unfighting unswearing Quakers c. Again Had they not need to assure the Magistrates that now their Minds is changed Else how unsure is the State and Church c. By which it 's easie to guess what this Man would be at New-England Halters or the like But the curst Cow has short Horns is the old Proverb and blessed be ●od we have great Confidence in our Appeal to the present Government as in former Times to all others as with Respect to our Innocency and Peaceable Behaviour under every Government that the Great God and Governor of all Things has ordered and permitted to be over us so needs not change our Minds having the Mind of our Lord Christ Jesus who has taught us neither to Fight nor to Swear but to live Peaceably and to put up our Prayers for Kings and Governours that we might live a Godly and Peaceable Life in all Honesty And we have great Cause to bless God and be thankful that we have through his Assistance been so preserved in an Innocent and Peaceable Frame of Spirit towards the Governments that the most wrathful of our Enemies or Detracters cannot justly charge the contrary We have also cause of Thankfulness That we are known to be otherwise to the present Government than this angry Man would represent us and that we are vouchsafed Protection thereby from what this and such like restless Men would be at whose Fingers itch to stir up Strife Hatred and Persecution which if it be not the worst part is yet a very bad piece of Popery 35. Again in Page 35 he saith Adorn Christian Doctrine which they profess not meaning the Quakers Answ It 's another of his Lyes a Shame to and a Stain upon Christian Doctrine and Religion if he pretend or advise thereto let him stop till he learn to speak Truth till he has got a Bridle to his Tongue that unruly Member that 's set on fire he may read by what For if the Apostle James's Doctrine be true and to be believed we are not to take Notice of his seemign to be Religious while he doth not Bridle his Tongue Which it 's evident this Man doth not So concludes with the said Apostle that this Man's Religion is but a vain pretence 36. In Page 36 he saith Beware of the Quakers Spirit and Insinuation it has often appeared that such as have adjoyned themselves to them are prepared for any Delusions the Devil can suggest c. Answ A gross Slander The Divine Spirit which the Quakers Witness and bears Testimomony to delivers from and preserves out of Delusions of the Devil who it is that hath suggested this Lye against the Truth 37. In Page 47. But these saith he meaning the Quakers waxing secure and wanton in Formal Profession first cast off all Ordinances all Outward Duties all Prayer only with this Reserve when their own Spirits would give them a Jogg c. Answ His Charge is false and malicious and bespeaks him to be given up to serve the Father of Lyes as what he calls the Reserve is idle and frothy For it 's by the Eternal Spirit that we are opened and assisted in all our Duties to God

especially Prayer not knowing a right Understanding how to Pray but by the Assistance and Help thereof which made the Apostle conclude he would Pray with the Spirit and with Vnderstanding And so do we and not a Jogg of our own Spirit as he scoffingly saith 38. In Page 48 He has another fling at Revelation viz. Your Speakers c. Alledging they know not who shall Speak until the Spirit moves in that very Hour of the Assembly nor what shall be spoken A Conceit says he who has many idle ones in his Head that has often made me smile when I have been told a Week before-hand by your selves That such a Man will at such a Day speak at such Place Answ Belike he dare not rely upon the Spirit but must be studying and taking Thought before-hand Howbeit I challenge him to name which of Us and at what Time and Place so told him as aforesaid For I deny it as a Lye as he lays it down invented by him in order to Abuse Us and make way for a frothy Scoff 39. In the same Page viz. Since so many have meaning the Quakers undertaken to justifie that impudent Contradiction to the God of Order and to baffle those two plain Texts 1 Cor. 14.34 35. 1 Tim. 2.11 12. Answ I deny his Charge as Impudent calls on him for his Name and the Proof he is able to make as for the two Texts before and the Matter that relates thereto I refer to a small Treatise thereof printed in the Year 1684 the 10th Month Intituled A Testimony to the fulfilling the Promise of God relating to such Women c. Subscribed by T. C. Also to R. B's Appology with several other of our Friends Books 40. In Page 49 he saith For God's Book has no Place nor Honour in your Assemblies nor do your Teachers submit themselves or Doctrine to that Judge c. Answ If by God's Book he means the Holy Scriptures I deny his Charge For our Teachers as he calls them whom we own do Love and Honour Holy Scriptures and submit their Doctrine to be proved and tried thereby as many Thousands can Witness against this shameless Man Thus having gone through his Work I charge him with 40 most gross Lyes and great Slanders some of which are double some triple others fourfold folded up one in another which may perhaps double the Number besides what I have passed by and looked over as of less moment or in some degree related to what I have above taken Notice of which I leave with him as a Mark of Infamy upon him till he appear like a Man and quit himself thereof or else repent of his Wickedness therein and shall proceed to take Notice of some of his Contradictions and base Inferences referring to other Things and not before touched relating to the South to the Answer before-mentioned by B. C. And as to what he falsly alledgeth to be the Reason of H. W's Conversion as he calls it I refer to what 's before-said to H. W's Book and shall only take some Notice of some of his Contradictions Contradictions 1. THE Title of the said Book of H. W's is The Spirit of Quakerism c. And again towards the end of the Preface thus viz. Such as need to be further acquainted with the very Heart of Quakerism compared with Page 31. viz. And thus it comes to pass that we never know nor ever shall know what is the Doctrine of Quakerism I say Can the Spirit and Heart of Quakerism be known and yet not the Doctrine Or can he tell what that is he knoweth not 2. In Page 39 he saith The Scripture and Quakerism are mutual Enemies What Enememies and yet Mutual Oh strange What are they Mutual Enemies to the Devil and such Lyars as he Let him then consider what he is an Enemy to Yet in Page 31. The Doctrine of Quakerism we never know nor shall know I say Then how knows he that the Scripture and Quakerism are Mutual Enemies 3. Again Page 43. viz. It was a just use of his Reason and Consideration guided by Scripture that represented Quakerism to him c. Compared with Page 31 aforesaid We never know nor shall know what the Doctrine of Quakerism is 4. In Page 23. he saith The Devil himself who one would think is ordinarily one of their Friends seems here to have owed them a Spight For the Devil to be a Friend and yet to owe us Spight are contraries We deny the Devil to be our Friend let him take him who is the Father of Lyes and Liars This Libeller grants the Devil has long owed us a Spight and still doth Oh! how familiar he is with him He knows his Mind And that makes him thus to traduce us and run into gross Contradictions 5. Again Page 24. viz. I freely declare if any of you sincerely value Scripture Light and Rule and do not adhere to the guidance of this mad Spirit this Story intends not to accuse you Now I say if he holds here he has cleared all the Quakers in general except such as are guided or adheres to be guided by a mad Spirit and all such the Quakers have and do deny to be of them But that 's not pleasing to him to know or hear of It 's through their sides that he would strike at the Quakers that are clear and that he seems so freely to declare the Story intends not to Accuse yet in the very next Page contradicts himself viz. What think you of the three dear Sisters True Quakers they were and owned as such to the last But what Spirit what Wild-Fire is this that they and you have chosen for your Guide c. Mark they and you they Quakers here he writes in general and makes no exception as before So that he 's an uncertain Body will not hold to what he pretends to 6. But hear him again in the same Page viz. I will not be so Quaker like as to censure a Multitude for ought whereof I can find tollerable Proof that most are Innocent c. Answ To let pass his Scoff of Quaker-like it 's evident through his whole Work that he has sencured Thousands a Multitude that never heard hereof before The which one would have thought might have been sufficient Proof as to their Innocency if he had been just and honest in what he says and no doubt would especially inasmuch as he has no Proof at least produceth none that any owned the Three whom he scoffingly calls dear Sisters in their endeavouring Prosecution of Law against H. W. c. Only after several Essays and Onsets amounts to mention one by Name to wit J. S. long since in his Grave who from the knowledge I had of him and being charged only by such unjust Persons that has most notoriously abused both dead and living shall not believe it till proved And if this one single Person had been guilty as charged which I do not grant yet who besides a