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A50461 A conference betwixt a papist and a Jew, or, A letter from a merchant in London, to his correspondent in Amsterdam Mayo, Richard, 1631?-1695.; N. H.; Jacob, John, 17th cent. 1678 (1678) Wing M1522; ESTC R10629 19,865 37

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they received him they must renounce their other gods yet the Emperour persisted in his opinion of Jesus and gave the Christians great liberty all his days Yea the Turks acknowledg Jesus our Saviour to be sent of God and that he confirmed his Mission by Miracles and upbraid the Jews for not believing God by his Prophet Jesus and Mahomet threatneth judgment against them for it in his Alchoran saying that Jesus Christ was the Word and Power of God sent to convince the World by Miracles That he was born of a Virgin conceived without an earthly Father by Divine inspiration that he cured all manner of Diseases and raised the dead to life again That he was taken at length into Heaven and shall come again Thus much of our Faith is confest by those Infidels I could go forward but that I see the time is well nigh expired that you allowed for this Conference and therefore I shall not be guilty of a farther absurdity but I beg your pardon for that I have already committed by an unrequested interposing in your serious debate And for a close I must tell you Sir that you must yield the Conclusion in this Gentlemens Argument or else deny his major proposition which yet you say is founded upon the greatest reason or else you must fly to the evasion of your Fathers which is That Jesus our Lord did indeed work Miracles but it was by the power of the Devil And to say this pardon the expression is no less than Blasphemy It is in effect to say That the Devil is God and to ascribe the Attributes and Prerogative of God unto him For if Satan can do such Miracles without controul to perswade poor mortals to an entertainment of error and to delude the World who have no sufficient means as was said before to discover the delusion then it plainly follows that he is a God in Power and the Almighty Governour of the World or at least that God hath so little mercy or justice or care of mankind as to give them to the power of the Devil to be remedilesly deluded by him And he that will believe this rather than the Christian Faith deserves to perish in his blasphemy and infidelity I have done when I have made this one request to you That you will please to favour me with such another meeting and I shall hope by the assistance of that Spirit which proceeds from the Father and the Son which three are one God the same in substance equal in Power and Glory I say by his assistance and by other Arguments and by those taken from the writings of Moses and the Prophets and some of your own Rabbinical Authors clearly and convincingly to demonstrate That Jesus is the Messiah yea the only begotten Son of God and the Saviour of the World L. the Jew was much affected as I did perceive with Mr. B's close and warm Discourse and indeed what with the matter and his manner of delivering it I think we were all affected more or less he turns to his friend and desires him by all means to accept of this Gentlemans motion and appoint another meeting The Rabbi made a low bow to Mr. B. and said Sir I heartily thank you for your plain and ingenuous Discourse and I willingly acknowledg that I have received more information from it than from any person or Author that ever I yet conversed with yea what if I should say Within a little you have perswaded me to be a Christian I must not conceal that it hath been the opinion of some of our Learned men That the Messias is come and that for our sins he lyes concealed I have been often staggered in my self when I have thought of this matter I dare not shut my eyes against clear light but open them as wide as I can Therefore Sir on this day fortnight at the same hour I shall gladly meet you and if it may be I am content that this house in which we now are should be the place only I beg leave to bring one or two of my Brethren with me and yet I desire also that we may be private and that not above the number of three or four at most be present besides our selves I told them my House was at their service and that I was rejoyced to see so good an effect of the past Conference I called for a bottle of Sack they drank in a friendly manner to one another so L. and his friend took their leave When they were gone Father S. applied himself to Mr. B. and thanked him for his seasonable interposition and desired his farther acquaintance I must said he confess to you That I am one of those that you call Roman-Catholicks but I was not aware that our Church by the Miracles she approves of and allows to be wrought in her did give such a stab to the Christian Faith as I now find it doth I confess I have been long of opinion that those Miracles of our Saints that are so much magnified amongst us are most of them false and fabulous And I remember that I have read in Ludovicus Vives a learned Writer of our own how he calls the Golden Legend a History unworthy of the Saints and that the Author had a brazen face Yea he says expresly that the lives of the Saints are corrupted with abundance of lyes and that the Authors did set down not what the Saints did but what themselves would have had them done Mr. B. understanding that Father S. was a Roman-Catholick desired his pardon that he had spoke so keenly against the Church and Pope of Rome adding that he saw a necessity of it for the undeceiving of the Jew And Sir said he give me leave to tell you that your Church by her lying Wonders and forged Miracles hath greatly disserved and disparaged the Faith of Christ and gone about to invalidate the chiefest argument as you your self acknowledged for the confirmation of it And let me add that the Jews are farther prejudiced against Christianity by the Papists amongst whom they mostly converse especially in these Western parts of the World and that is by your Adoration of Images the Host the Cross and the Relicks of the Saints for they are great Zealots in the second Commandment and utter enemies to all Idolatry To which may be added your debarring the general use of the New Testament which is the probable means of the obtaining the knowledg of Christ and the Christian Religion Father S. replied that though he was a Roman Catholick yet withal he was a Christian and I think said he 't is high time for me and all Christians besides to think of renouncing Communion with that Church whose principles and practises shall encourage men to continue Jews and Infidels and as the Jew said That within a little he was perswaded to be a Christian so could he say that within a little he was perswaded to be a Protestant Upon this they take leave of one another promising to meet again at the time before mentioned Sir I judged this Narrative would not be unacceptable to you If any thing occurs in the next meeting that is worthy your notice it shall be readily communicated by Yours in many Obligations N. H. FINIS