Linguistic DNA - Concept Modelling Demonstrator

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
spirit_n	father_n	order_n	son_n	5,249	5	6.4785	4	false

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A10910	[The displaying of an horrible secte of grosse and wicked heretiques, naming themselues the family of loue with the liues of their authours and what doctrine they teach in corners. Newly set foorth by I.R. Whereunto is added certeine letters sent from the same family mainteyning their opinions, which letters are aunswered by the same J.R.]	Rogers, John, fl. 1560-1580.; Batman, Stephen, d. 1584.	1579 (1579)	STC 21182; ESTC S100037	92,004	238

will stay some of GODS children from running headlong into that bewitched snare And also suche matter as by disputation and conference with some of the same familie I haue boulted out I will declare For in dÃ©ede the Authour in his Bookes doeth not deale so plainely as one being ledde by the spirite of GOD whereof he boasteth but verie subtilely and darkely and so as the iudgement of many godly and learned men to whom I haue deliuered his Bookes vppon the reading of the same haue testified that there is no matter in the Authour that may bÃ©e drawen into argument but that it sÃ©emeth to be as a riddle or darke speeche and therefore more intricate to be followed And as his tearmes and phrases are geyson and vnwoonted so they doe dasell the simple with an admiration of a prudent spirite to be in the Authour which of meane wits can neither be comprehended nor vnderstoode And when the Kabbynes of that Family whome they tearme Illuminate Elders haue bÃ©ene pressed by me and others to giue a reason why the Authour hath so cunningly and subtilely dealt not expressing his minde in plaine tearmes and spÃ©eche the best answere that hath bÃ©ene made is that the Authour hath writen in the Dutch tongue which wanteth his grace and eloquence bÃ©eing turned into our rude Englishe But if I might be bolde to replye without offence his rude stile bÃ©eing written in the Dutch tongue is rather beautified by translation then impayred for I haue some copyes in Dutche some in Latin and some in English wherein the Authors barbarous stile and his ignoraunce is verie muche manifested although some of his schollers haue put too their helping handes to garnishe this their barbarous â–ª Author especially the booke intituled Euangelium Regni which is translated into Latin exactly I would to GOD the matter did answere the goodnesse of the tongue And if I should diligently sÃ©eke out of what forge the Authour Henrie Nicholas hath fyled his heresies I am certeinly persuaded that one Dauid George was the founder hatcher and brÃ©eder of all this mischiefe and Henrie Nicholas but a disciple or scoller of the same Dauid What this Dauid was you may perceiue by that which is set downe before whose errours also for a tast I will set downe in part as they are collected by the gouernour of the vniuersitie of Basill that all men may sÃ©e that an euil authour hath bred a worse scholer And thereby shall be perceiued that Dauid George his opinions differ nothing from H. N. but are so like in wicked boasting that they haue the spirit of God that a man may thereby say an euill father hath begotten a worse sonne Articles taken out of Dauid George AL doctrine taught by Moyses the Prophetes and Christe himselfe are not sufficient to saluation but onely to keepe the people in good order till the comming of me Dauid George but my doctrine is able to saue all those that put their trust therin 2 Dauid George doth further say that he is the right Mesâ—ias the beloued sonne of the Father not borne of the fleshe but of the holy Ghost and when Christ was dead according to the flesh the spirite of Christe was kept at the fathers appointment vntill the comming of Dauid George and giuen to him 3 He saith that he will set vp the true house of Dauid the children of Leâ—â—â— and he will raise the tabernacle of God through the spirite of Christe not by the crosse and suffering but â–ª through meâ—knesse and loue 4 He saith that whosoeuer speaketh against his doctrine shall neuer bee forgiuen neither in this worlde nor in the world to come These I haue set downe as the doctrine of Dauid George founde in his books And bicause their doctrin may be better viewed and sÃ©ene how they agrÃ©e in wicked diuelish phantasies of their own deuice set on by the father of lies our ancient enimie to be a stumbling blocke vnto the simple and to darken and blemish the ioyful procÃ©eding of the glorious Gospell of Christ Iesus which almightie God hath in mercy reuealed to nations kingdomes most plentifully mauger the malice of the diuell and all his children I haue therefore here placed certaine sayinges of H. N. which are word for worde taken out of his bookes that the diligent reader may sÃ©e how in wicked boasting they agrÃ©e what vile doctrine they publish The errours of H. N. taken out of his owne bookes translated into English. 1 For the being of God or essence gaue foorth his sounde and voyce and spake vnto me H. N. through his spirite of loue all these wordes he sayde Speaking against the Churche he saith 2 For that cause if thou now account not thy selfe for an whore but esteemest thee for the faythfull espoused wise of Christe my iealous conceiuing cannot stande otherwise towardes thee but that thou art a presumptuous whore whiche dissemblest and playest the hypocrite with Christe and couertly committest whoredome and neuerthelesse wilt bee iudged as a faythfull espoused wife of Christe So Shalt thou presenly be constrained to drinke the bitter cursed water of my iealousie 3 All that God hath spoken through his holie Prophetes and what is written of Christ should also in vs and with vs become fulfilled to the honor and glorie of God and to our ioy Out of a Dialogue betweene the father and the sonne Chap. 17. the son concludeth with these wordes SEeing nowe that I my Father haue found out in deede that our Lord the moste highest hath reuealed his mercie seate the possession of his most excellent Maiestie and heauenly riches in thee and with the same beeing of the perfect Godhead made a godly dwelling with thee so were it meete that all the generations of the â—arth submit them selues vnder the same mercie seate and Godly Maiestie and assemble them therevnto Here maiest thou sÃ©e these two men boasting theÌ„ selues in their presumption and pride of minde to haue the spirit of God the one saying that the same spirit which was in Christ Iesus when hee liued on earth is nowe in Dauid George which is horible blasphemieâ— and abaseth Moyses the Prophets and Christe him selfe in whose doctrine the certaintie of our faith is firmely fixed against which the gates of hell shal not preuaile promiseth to bring the house of Dauid and the children of Leuie into great prosperitie and to set â–ª them vp not with painful suffring as Christ our Lord in him self hath perfourmed left to vs his children example to follow his steppes in suffering miserie that we might reigne with him in glory but he promiseth to bring his disciples into that glory through mÃ©eknesse and loue which in deede is the pleasanter way to be followed if we consider fleshe and bloud H. N. he following his father in like blasphemie auoucheth that he hath talked with God not by inspiration or reuelation but by giuing foorth his sound voyce Then placeth himselfe in Christes

liue vnder the obedience of any magistrate be he neuer so wicked or vngodly the Turke the Pope or whosoeuer 5 Item that they allowe a kinde of shrifte worse then Popish For where the Pope requireth but confession of the act coÌ„mitted they will haue the thoughtes manifested and what our nature and inclination draweth vs vnto 6 Item they holde that the lawe of God is possible to be kept of euerie man that will indeuour himselfe thereto 7 Item that their authour H. N. is the true prophet of God sent to blowe the last trumpe of doctrine which shall be published vpon earth he only knoweth the true sence of the holie scripture 8 Item that his bookes are of equall authoritie with the holie scripture and are written with the same spirite 9 Item all is false and lyes whatsoeuer is taught or preached by any other then their Illuminate Elders in the Familie 10 Item they commend the Pope and Cardinals and allowe the Masse other their ceremonies The Bookes of H. N. which I haue seene 1 IN primis the first Epistle of H. N. 2 Item the first and second exhortation of H. N. 3 Item a diologue betweene the father and the sonne 4 Item the prophesie â—â— the spirite of loue 5 Item the published peace vppon earth 6 Item the declaration of the masse 7 Item their Euangelium Regni 8 Item the true and spirituall Tabernacle 9 Item the new and heauenly Ierusalem 10 Item a confession of their faith newly made 11 Item sundrie Epistles of H. N. Bookes which I heare of and haue not seene 1 ITem two bookes intituled the glasse of righteousnesse 2 Item a Booke called the holy Lamb. The displaying of the Familie of Loue. WHen I considered the duetie of a Christian to consist in the true profession of Christ Iesus his name diligently to walke in the pathes and wayes manifested in his word and to sÃ©eke to beautifie and inrich that beloued spouse the Church of Christ sanctified by his bloude I could not holde backe my penne to publish such matter as I sÃ©e daily to blemishe that beloued bride I meane the Church of Christ and to haue crept in by the subtiltie of Sathan our professed enimy Hauing therefore gathered diuers notes of that cankered error of H. N. taken out of his bookes which I haue to shewe I had thought to haue stayed my hande from further frauell but being vrged by diuers of Gods children to manifest this my labour to the end that some nouices of that errour might if it were possible be stayed from further plunging themselues into that gulfe of impietie How the wicked take occasion by these like errours to speake euil of Christs Church the eares of many godly doe heare Especially the Papists who speak and write â–ª and nothing is heard more common in their mouthes then these tearms Ye are at variaunce amongst your selues no vnitie of doctrine is obserued ye are of diuers opinions and sectes But how vntruely they impute these maters vnto the church of Christ to euerie member of the same Church it is euident For if we consider the wisedome of God in gouerning his we shal perceiue that in all ages when Christes Church did most flourish in perfectioÌ„ then was errour and heresies moste rife as may wel appÃ©ere euen in the Apostles times by the Nicolaitans Ebionites Cerinthus and others How busily did the fathers in the primitiue Church withstand such heresies as crept in euen in that happie time Tertullianus the Valentinians Augustine the Donatistes and Athanasâ—â—us the Arrians with infinit mâ— as by reading the Ecclesiasticall histories doeth well appeare Wherein what trauell hath bÃ©ene taken what counsels called what Books written it were a wonder to behold But when corruption began by litle and litle to spread her selfe and got the face of a Church O how were dissentions appeased no varietie sÃ©emed to be where as in dÃ©ede nothing was taught nor published but dreams deuises of men who leauing the certein and knowen wayes of y Lord reuealed in his word betoke theÌ„selues to depend vpoÌ„ the doctrines of men But if we descend into these last times wherein we liue and marke the wisedome of God in gouerning his Churche how he hath manifested his sonne Christ Iesus with an vncouered face to the great comfort of his children how the doting dreams of men are vanished how nothing but Christ Iesus is lifted vp with prayses as the immediate and only cause of our saluation how the true vse of workes is placed not as any cause but as the fruites of our instification And yet to sÃ©e how busily sathan enuying the prosperitie of Christes spouse endeuoureth daily in his meÌ„bers to trouble and disquiet this peaceable Sion by raysing vp diuers strange and monstrous heresies as the Anabaptistes the Free will men the Arrians the Pelagians and the Familie of Loue with many others which heresies the Diuell more bufily soweth nowe to disquiet the Churche then heretofore in y time of ignorance when he lulled the most part of y world in errours and dreames of men And sÃ©eing that euerie errour doeth seeke his cloake defence by the holie scripture yet we haue great cause to reioyce that onely by the scripture they are all put to silence and their heresies made manifest to all men as by the learned treatises of many graue men in this our age doeth manifestly appeare Of this last errour of H. N. the cheefe piller and vpholder of these errours of the Familie of Loue whereof by the Lordes assistance I minde to leaue behinde me such notes and brÃ©efes â–ª as of certeintie I haue learned bothe of the person and also of his doctrine no man hitherto that I can learne hath endeuoured to confute them in writing Whose Bookes as they haue come to my hande I haue with diligence perused and by much conference with diuers of that Familie learned the doctrine which they followe And whereas they haue bÃ©ene charged with diuers articles before the highe commissioners yet by no argument that I can learne doe I finde that they holde all the errours conteined in the same Notwithstanding so many as either by the doctrine of Henrie Nicholas or by conference I haue learned I haue set downe to the ende that some good man might be incouraged to confute so impious an authour and such horrible errours and perfourme in some learned worke that whiche my want and capacitie is not able to supply neither would I haue ventured to committe to writing suche rude and ignorant labour the matter bÃ©eing in dÃ©ede â—etter then the handling but in my opinion it is better to haue course bread then none at all And because diuerse with whome I am familiarly acquainted are fallen into this errour of Henrie Nicholas I haue the rather for their sakes bent my studie to doe them good if it be possible And if these simple notes may haue that successe that I wishe I trust it

saying I adiuâ—e and charge thee in the name of the liuing God whether thou bee Christe the sonne of God c. Let that whiche is secrete to God onely whereof no proofe can be made nor lawfull witnesse brought abide to the comming of the Lord which shall open all the secretes c. which councell if ye nowe followed poore men mought enioy libertie of good conscience without such stretching and strayning as is nowe vsed You also denye that euer any in the primitiue Churche taught a perfection to be attained in this life whereat wee much marueile for that wee knowe assuredly that the Apostles taught the perfection to be attained in this life of all and among all that could beleeue and stoode good willing thereto and so haue all that hath since taught Christ Iesus who is the perfection of all the workes of God. Is not this much ignoraunce that wee who acknowledge as wee saye Christ Iesus â–ª shoulde denye his perfection But it seemeth wee looke not for his shape to be wrought in vs as the Scriptures require Paule to the Corinthians 1. 13. Chapter But when that which is perfect is come then that which is vnperfect shal be done awaye c. You must agree with vs that all the holie ones from the beginning haue taught vs to leaue sinne and surely that doctrine lyketh vs best But all your citations are to defende and mainteine the sinne which seemeth to like you best For surely it were well that all true Christians should rather take parte with righteousnesse then be such aduocates for the sinne as moste men bee at these dayes Nowe further it seemeth moste straunge vnto vs where you also say you knowe not what wee meane concerning our confession made in our saide letters as concerning our true baptisme In the name of God the Father God the Sonne and of God the holie Ghoste which is the taking vp of our crosse and right direction vnto Christ who hauing then gotten in vs a liuing shape confirmeth vs through his holie spirite in an assured hope of his promises in the resurrection and in the euerlasting life yet as you graunt it may haue an apte application wee see not any other way to possesse the kingdome of heauen the whole newe estament is full giuing witnesse ther vnto But if ye haue founde out any easier way thereto so are not wee therein against you which till ye can let ds perceiue and feele wee pray you to suffer vs in rest by you in this our foolishnesse as wee do you vnhindered vnmolested and vnslaundered c. wee also say not as you imagin that our battaile is ended when wee are regenerate but wee say that Christe Iesus that man of God from heauen which is borne of God and in whome the seede of God remaineth and therefore sinneth not he hath the power to subdue his enimies end the battail in vs Wher you also say that H. N. hath not the spirite of God say moreouer that he teacheth meere contrarie doctrine to the Scriptures you haue therein think we entred verie farre into Gods secrets iudging also greatly of your self therin for it is nowe adays a common thing that euery man can say shewe mee a good man wheÌ„ as in deed in their beholding none is better theÌ„ themselues therfore cannot beleeue that god hath such worke with any man as to bring any goodnes more theÌ„ thei haue to any other And further we know that with what mind a man beholdeth another in such forme he appeareth whome he beholdeth for a minde of enuie cannot discerne any paterne of Loue no more then a blacke Moore looking in a glasse can see his face altered into white coulour c. And as for difference which ye demaunde to knowe betweene you and vs wee haue fully answered you before by your owne wordes Nowe for our minde concerning Gods predestination take vs not therein so short for we allowe of it simplie and reuerently in his kinde and yet further also euen as the holie Scriptures allowe the same but wee like not to contende therin nor desperatly to seeke libertie of life thereby neither foolishly to serch for things therein aboue our capacities It seemeth also in your letters that ye feare our mindes stande not to agree with you in your iustification by Christ in your acknowledging your selues to be sinners in your weakenesse in perfourming the lawe and that we seuer vs from you therein wherein ye are too much deceiued for wee acknowledge our iustification to bee had by none other meanes but alone in by and through the death passion resurrection of Iesus Christ our Lorde and Sauiour wee daily confesse our selues to he moste myserable sinners and of our selues altogether vnable to perfourme the lawe and therefore wee acknowledge and stedfastly beleeue the onely possibilitie to consist in the Lorde our God through Iesus Christ our righteousnesse and waite for the same whatsoeuer you or any other say of vs to the contrarie Ye say further to be like vnto Christe or to haue his Image is to be vnderstoode to be like minded vnto him who did nat sinne but that priuiledge say you onely apperteineth to him and not to vs then in vaine as it seemeth by your wordes was this written vnto the congregations Let the same minde be in you that was in Christ Iesus c. But as we haue saide the power thereto is not in vs but in him But you take part ouermuch with the sinne as we thinke and we ouermuch with the righteousnesse as you thinke And because we are enimies to our vttermost through the might of Christ against the sinne you vniustly imagin therefore of vs as that we of our owne power without Christ meaned to subdue the same but farre be that from our thoughtes and surely who so sayeth so of vs slaundereth vs muche Nowe further you say you are not enimie to our persons which wee would be glad to see for we are taught to forsake that false sinfull nature of the diuell that contrarie nature to God and to growe into that good louely being of God and Christe in the spirite whereby wee see no cause ye should bee enimie to so good doctrine neyther And as for Edmund L. you confesse as much of him as wee charged you with Further ye saye wee slyly meane H. N. by the white stone spoken of in the Apocalips But vnderstande we meane as the text importeth by all such as ouercome in that battaile and not by any one particulerly But thus much for certein note well such as haue no lust to ouercome in the crosse of Christe that earthly sinfull nature but haue much more lust to take parte therewith and yet notwithstanding doe claime a freedom with Gods holie ones in Iesus Christ in an vnrenewed minde knowe nothing therof for it is written no man knoweth that newe name saue alone he that receiueth it boast he neuer so much of his knowledge

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