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A91797 Some briefe considerations on Doctor Featley his book, intituled, The dipper dipt, wherein in some measure is discovered his many great and false accusations of divers persons, commonly called Anabaptists, with an answer to them, and some brief reasons of their practice. In seven sections, viz. I. Dr. Featley his secret and haynous accusing the honourable Parliament. II. That he is guilty of greater errors, than to go into the water to be dipt. ... VI. Some reasons alledged against infants being baptized. A question proposed to consideration, that if it be an error to be baptized again, whether the punishment, some would have inflicted upon them, and some have suffered, be not too great? VII. How many sorts of Anabaptists he saith there are, and what they hold. Whereunto is added, what is conceived the Doctors mysticall frontispiece may more properly declare. / By Samuel Richardson. Richardson, Samuel, fl. 1643-1658. 1645 (1645) Wing R1414; Thomason E270_22; ESTC R212288 20,332 22

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Some brief CONSIDERATIONS On Doctor Featley his Book intituled The Dipper Dipt Wherein In some measure is discovered his many great and false accusations of divers persons commonly called Anabaptists with an Answer to them and some brief Reasons of their Practice In seven Sections viz. I. Dr. Featley his secret and haynous accusing the honourable Parliament II. That he is guilty of greater errors then to go into the water to be dipt III. His false Accusations against the Anabaptists examined and answered IV. How in a Disputation hee discovered his subtilty and pride V. That he justifieth dipping in rivers to be a lawfull manner of baptizing VI Some Reasons alledged against Infants being baptized A question proposed to consideration that if it be an error to be baptized again whether the punishment some would have infflicted upon them and some have suffered be not too great VII How many sorts of Anabaptists he saith there are and what they hold Whererunto is added what is conceived the Doctors mysticall Frontispice may more properly declare Blessed are yee when men revile you and persecute you and shall say all manner of evill against you falsly for my sake Rejoy●● and be exceeding glad for great is your reward in heaven for so persecuted they the Prophets which were before you Mat. 11. 12. See Mat. 19. 29. By SAMUEL RICHARDSON London Printed Febr. 25. 1645. Some brief CONSIDERATIONS On Doctor FEATLEY his Book intituled The DIPPER Dipt Section I. Doctor Featley his secret and haynous accusation of the honourable Parliament DOctor Featley under the colour of aiming at Anabaptists strikes the Parliament and secretly wounds them with his malignant pen in his Epistle to his friend hee complains of his corporall thraldome and that his pressures are unsufferable his person confined his estate sequestred his losses unvaluable his books and both his pulpits taken from him that his friends himself sought earnestly but could not obtain that liberty which Paul injoyed when he was in prison in Rome to preach the Gospel to his fellow-prisoners observe what doth he not say that the Parliament are hinderers of the preaching of the Gospel of Christ What are they worser then Heathen Emperours and Magistrates can they not be prevailed with to yeeld that the Gospel should be preached to prisoners c. O heavie charge It seems he hath a great mind to preach the Gospel but the honourable Parliament have had cause enough to fear that he would so mixe it with the leaven of malignancy till hee had so sowred it that all that should taste of it were in danger to be poysoned with it and so they did justly in hindring him from preaching such a Gospel as this is and in pag. 32. the government of Archbishops c. is not Antichristian contrary to the Ordinance of Parliament and nicknames them Brownists and Barrowists that hold so and in p. 214 215 216. he saith this kind of sacriledge we speak of whereby Churches and Churchmen are defrauded of their due is no better nor worse then robbing God and pronounceth a curse upon a curse to them what doth he lesse then charge the Parliament with sacriledge what punishment he deserves I leave it to them whom it concerns Also he saith p. 70. speaking of the Separatists and Anabaptists that the Magistrate who though by present connivence seems to give them line yet no doubt it is that they may the more intangle themselves and more easily be caught as if the Parliament ●ought to insnare any that are loyall to the State Suppose they conceive they are in an error how knowes hee but that their forbearance is out of a desire and hope that upon their better information they will gladly ●●forme what is amisse themselves considering that many of the Separation and Anabaptists are well known to be honest and conscionable men both towards God and man and concerning the Doctor when he reckoneth up the enemies of the State in his Epistle to Mr. Downam he doth not name the malignants to be any of them which declares he is not yet healed of his malignancy Sect. II. Wherein it appears that the Doctor is guilty of greater errors then to be dipped in the river DOctor Featley holds these errors viz. that Archbishops c. are not Antichristian p. 32. and that the Ceremonies of the Church of England are not Idolatrous nor Antichristian p. 32. that Baptisme is a means of salvation and p. 40 41 50. that it is the remedy of originall sin p. 41. that regeneration by water is to take away the filth of sin p. 41. that children of faithfull parents receive some measure of grace in their infancie p. 59. that there is no command or example that women took the Sacrament that the river is defiled by dipping a man or woman into it he saith baptizing of Infants began in the Apostles dayes p. 19. and yet no man can name the time when it began p. 52 53 66. which is so high a contradiction as no illiterate man can reach it also he saith that those children which cannot be taught may be made Disciples by their parents p. 39. or God fathers p. 57. and that children make a profession of their faith and repentance at their baptisme by these sureties p. 76. might he not as truly say that the faith of their parents or godfathers is given to the children and so it 's theirs illiterate men must of necessity refer these things to the School-men as Tho. Aquinas c. Also he saith that Baptisme is the entrance into the Church p. 23 46. 63. and hee that is cast out of the Church upon repentance must be received in again p. 29. then it seems he must be re-baptized else how shall he get in if it be the entrance so by the Doctors doctrine he holds re-baptizing which we deny and so he is an Anabaptist and not we also the Doctor saith that Christ is the Son of God not only in respect of his temporall generation but also in respect of his eternall generation p. 3. and that the Spirit is said to proceed from the Father because he proceeds from the Father originally and that the Spirit hath a dependence from both pag. 23. But if Christ as he was God had a beginning he could not be God if he had no beginning How can Christ as he is God be the Son of God in respect of his eternall generation any more then the Father is his Son by eternall generation Secondly if the Spirit of God be God as he is equall with the Father and the Son all three infinite without beginning each having the whole divine essence and yet there is but one essence how can the Spirit proceed from the Father originally any more then the Father from the Spirit and how can the Spirit of God have any more dependance upon the Father and the Sonne then they have upon him seeing whatsoever is infinite can have no dependance upon any thing
Therefore the Doctors words contain in them the nature of blasphemy and to define how one can be three and three but one alwayes so remain is above the reach of any man I may say to him as Mat. 7. 3. Luk. 6. 41 42 Sect. 3. Wherein is contained Doctor Featley his large conscience in laying so many and false accusations and wicked errors which he like a mad man shoots desperately against the Anabaptists as he calls them to wound their reputation that they might appeare more vile in the eyes of the ignorant and procure their destruction THe Doctor chargeth the Anabaptists in the Title page of his booke with high attempts against the State which I confesse were an impiety insufferable and all that are guilty of this charge ought to die for it But in no place of his book he doth so much as offer to prove the least part of this charge against any one of this Kingdome or the next to it hee speakes as if two or three in Germany whom he pleaseth to call Anabaptists which he saith were guilty of this sinne But what is that to us if they be guilty of these the like wickednesses should not the Doctor have done better to have written his book in their language if he be not illiterate in it and sent it into those parts of the world as a means to reforme them As for our parts we can justly plead Not guilty and challenge all in the world to prove it against us if they can If the Doctors meaning be that we are guilty of rebellion because we side with the Parliament against those that goe about to destroy the Kingdome Wee answer we doe so to preserve the State and this is not against the State But the Doctor saith that we are a cruell and bloody Sect by imbroyling Kingdomes in warres and by raising persecutions against Gods servants page 210. Answ. It is well knowne that we were not the causers of these warres and our desires are that God would end them and settle truth and peace in all places in the world And it is well known we desire no man might be forced against his judgement and conscience in any way of worshipping of God no not to the true worship but rather to pray to God to open their eyes and wait with long patience till God perswade them and if they never see the light to walke in it to leave all to God And if so which way doth this tend to persecution of the Saints let all judge But he saith wee are a lying and blasphemous Sect yet he alledges not one proof to prove us so and wee are content that your bookes with ours may be examined to see which is the lying and blaspheming Sect. Also he accuseth the Anabaptists to be an impure and carnall Sect p. 207. yet he brings not any one instance of any one act of uncleannesse of any one Anabaptist in all England And seeing hee could not produce any witnesse of such a thing here he for proof steps to Rome to search the Popes and names three of them Sergius Gregory and Leo and that the Pope tolerated Stewes he might as well have said a Priesthood with holy Orders But the Doctor is not ignorant that these Popes were not Anabaptists but suppose they had is this a good reasoning to say the Churches of Christ in the Apostles dayes were a filthy unclean Sect and for proof name 1. Cor. 5. 1. that one was guilty of fornication yea one who had his fathers wife And to say the Priesthood of England are a filthy and unclean Sect and for proof alledge what the Priests of England have been guilty of neer our doores as one John Wilson committed buggery with fifteen men See the first Century of scandalous Ministers p. 1. c. And Doctor Featley if you please to joyne issue with us we will confine our selves to this Kingdom whether your Sect of Priests or us be most guilty of uncleannesse and upon that side it falls by the clearest proofe shall with my consent be chronicled for the filthy and unclean Sect. So he makes a dreadfull noyse of the fearfull judgements of God that befell the Ringleaders of this Sect and of their deaths and to prove this he names Elymas the Sorcerer who was struck with blindnesse p. 218. but hee was not an Anabaptist but withstood the Apostles and the truth they professed and they practised dipping So that he is recorded for an example for others that they oppose not Christs servants and the truth they professe lest God meet with them also in like manner but he names 200 and odde were put to death who were as he saith Anabaptists Answer This is no more then the Scripture saith Rev. 13. 7. They shall make warre with the Saints and overcome them He saith in Vienna some Anabaptists were tied together with ropes and drowned two were burned beyond Southwarke and a little after five Dutch Anabaptists were burned in Smithfield pag. 55. It rejoyceth us that men suffer for any truth behold how he honoureth those men that suffered But he saith they dip one another after their manner with a kind of spell containing the heads of their erroneous tenets and their ingaging themselves in their schismatical covenants We answer The manner of our baptisme is as the Apostles was and there is no other words expressed in our baptizing then what is expressed in the 28 of Matthew part of the 19. verse and no mention of any tenets much lesse erroneous ones nor no words of any covenants are mentioned at all Wee confesse when any is to be baptized at the water side the administrator goeth to prayer sutable to the occasion and after goe both into the water and useth the words Mat. chap. 28. part of the 19. verse and comming forth again they goe to prayer againe and also returne thankes to God and how this can be a spell we cannot see But he further accuseth the Anabaptists for running into corners to meet in We answer If he mean houses to be the corners we confesse it and they are the best places we have but if he or any other will doe us so much favour to procure more larger and publick places for us to meet in we are ready to embrace them with much thankfulnesse But saith the Doctor they goe men and women together stark naked into their Jordans pag. 36. 203. Wee answer wee abhor it and deny that ever any of us did so and challenge him to prove it against us if he can if he cannot it is fit he should be known for a slanderer if he deserve no punishment for it But he saith the Anabaptists are an illiterate and sottish Sect. We answer Some of them know many letters and if they can do no more I see not how it can be truly affirmed they are illiterate Yea but it seems in the Doctors account they are not so good scholars as he is I