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A51283 Annotations upon the two foregoing treatises, Lux orientalis, or, An enquiry into the opinion of the Eastern sages concerning the prae-existence of souls, and the Discourse of truth written for the more fully clearing and further confirming the main doctrines in each treatise / by one not unexercized in these kinds of speculation. More, Henry, 1614-1687. 1682 (1682) Wing M2638; ESTC R24397 134,070 312

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of his Classis not withstanding that he might have done otherwise and therefore they will be forward to extend that of the Author to the Hebrews chap. 1. v. 8. Thy Throne O God is for ever and ever the Scepter of Righteousness is the Scepter of thy Kingdom Thou hast loved Righteousness and hated Iniquity therefore God even thy God hath anointed thee with the Oyl of Gladness above thy Fellows to his behaviour in his pre-existent state as well as in this And whenever the Soul of Christ did exist if he was like us in all things sin onely excepted he must have a capacitie of sinning though he would not sin that capacitie not put into act being no sin but an Argument of his Vertue and such as if he was always devoid of he could not be like us in all things sin onely excepted For posse peccare non est peccatum And as ●…or humane Souls changing their Species in their unalterable heavenly happiness the Species is not then changed but perfected and compleated namely that facultie or measure of it in their Plastick essentially latitant there is by the Divine Grace so awakened after such a series of time and things which they have experienced that now they are sirmly united to an heavenly Body or ethereal Vehicle for ever And now we need say little to the other member of the Dilemma but to declare that free will or mutability in humane Souls is no separable Accident but of the essential contexture of them so as it might have its turn in the series of things And how consistent it was with the Goodness of God and his Wisdom not to suppress it in the beginning has been sufficiently intimated above Wherefore now forasmuch as there is no pretext that either the Wisdom or Justice of God should streighten the time of the creation of humane Souls so that their existence may not commence with that of Angels or of the Universe and that this figment of the Supremacy of Gods mere Will over his other Attributes is blown away it is manifest that the Argument for the Pre-existence of Souls drawn from the Divine Goodness holds firm and irrefragable against whatever Opposers We have been the more copious on this Argument because the Opposer and others look upon it as the strongest proof the Pre-existentiaries produce for their Opinion And the other Party have nothing to set against it but a fictitious Supremacy of the Will of God over his Goodness and other Attributes Which being their onely Bulwark and they taking Sanctuary nowhere but here in my apprehension they plainly herein give up the cause and establish the Opinion which they seem to have such an antipathy against But it is high time now to pass to the next Chapter Chap. 10. p. 75. To have contracted strong and inveterate habits to Vice and Lewdness and that in various manners and degrees c. To the unbyassed this must needs seem a considerable Argument especially when the Parties thus irreclaimably profligate from their Youth some as to one Vice others to another are found such in equal circumstances with others and advantages to be good born of the same Parents educated in the same Family and the like Wherefore having the same bodily Extraction and the same advantages of Education what must make this great difference as they grow up in the Body but that their Souls were different before they came into it And how should they have such a vast difference in the proclivity to Vice but that they lived before in the state of Pre-existence and that some were much deeper in rebellion against God and the Divine Reason than others were and so brought their different conditions with them into these Terrestrial Bodies Pag. 75. Then how a Swallow should return to her old trade of living after her Winter sleep c. Indeed the Swallow has the advantages of Memory which the incorporate Soul has not in her incorporation into a Terrestrial Body after her state of Silence But the vital inclinations which are mainly if not onely ●…ted in the Plastick being not onely revived but signally vitious of themselves revived with advantage by reason of the corruption of this coarse earthly Body into which the Soul is incorporate they cannot fail of discovering themselves in a most signal manner without any help of memory but from the mere pregnancie of a corrupt Body and formerly more than ordinarily debauched Plastick in the state of Pre-existence Pag. 76. Whenas others are as fatally set against the Opinions c. And this is done as the ingenious Author takes notice even where neither Education nor Custom have interposed to sophisticate their Judgments or Sentiments Nay it is most certain that they sometime have Sentiments and entertain Opinions quite contrary to their Education So that that is but a slight account to restore this Phaenomenon into Education and Custom whenas Opinions are entertained and stiffly maintained in despight of them This I must confess implies that the aerial Inhabitants philosophize but conjecturally onely as well as the Inhabitants of the Earth And it is no wonder that such Spirits as are lapsed in their Morals should be at a loss also in their Intellectuals and though they have a desire to know the truth in Speculations it suiting so well with their pride that yet they should be subject to various errours and hallucinations as well as we and that there should be different yea opposite Schools of Philosophie among them And if there be any credit to be given to Cardans story of his Father Facius Cardanus things are thus de facto in the aereal Regions And two of the Spirits which Facius Cardanus saw in that Vision left upon Record by him and of which he often told his Son Hieronymus while he was living were two Professors of Philosophie in different Academies and were of different Opinions one of them apertly professing himself to be an Aven-Roist The story is too long to insert here See Dr. H. Moore his Immortality of the Soul book 3. chap. 17. So that lapsed Souls philosophizing in their Aerial State and being divided into Sects and consequently maintaining their disserent or opposite Opinions with heat and affection which reaches the Plastick this may leave a great propension in them to the same Opinions here and make them almost as prone to such and such Errours as to such and such Vices This I suppose the ingenious Author propounds as an Argument credible and plausible though he does not esteem it of like force with those he produced before Nor does his Opposer urge any thing to any purpose against it The main thing is That these Propensities to some one Opinion are not universal and blended with the constitution of every person but are thin sown and grow up sparingly Where there are five says he naturally bent to any one Opinion there are many millions that are free to all If some says he descend into this life
no sober man believes that God assists any creature so in a natural course as to enable it to create And then I suppose that he that believes not this is not bound to puzzle himself why God may not as well make many substances into one as many out of one whenas he holds he does not the latter c. These are the Doctors own words in that Section In reply to which Mr. Baxter But to my Question saies he why God cannot make two of one or one of two you put me off with this lean Answer that we be not bound to puzzle our selves about it I think saies he that Answer might serve to much of your Philosophical disputes Here Mr. Baxter plainly deals very disingenuously with the Doctor in perverting his words which affirm onely That he that denies that God can make two substances of one in the sense above-declared need not puzzle himself how he may make one of those two again Which is no lean but full and apposite Answer to the Question there propounded And yet in this his Placid Collation as if he were wroth he gives ill language and insinuates That much of the Doctors Philosophical Disputes are such as are not worth a mans puzling himself about them whenas it is well known to all that know him or his Writings that he concerns himself in no Theories but such as are weighty and useful as this of the Indiscerpibility of Spirits is touching which he further slanders the Doctor as if it were his mere Assertion without any Proof As if Mr. Baxter had never read or forgot the Doctors Discourse of the true Notion of a Spirit or what he has writ in the further Defence thereof See Sect. 26 28 30 31. Thus to say any thing in an angry mood verily does not become the Title of a Placid Collation Sixthly The Doctor in Sect. 11. of his Defence of his Notion of a Spirit writes thus I desire you to consider the nature of Light throughly and you shall find it nothing but a certain motion of a Medium whose parts or particles are so or so qualified some such way as Cartesianism drives at To this Mr. Baxter replies against the Doctor pag. 59. Really sa●…es he when I read how far you have escaped the delusions of Cartesianism I am sorry you yet stick in so gross a part of it as this is when he that knoweth no more than motion in the nature of Fire which is the Active Principle by which Mental and Sensitive Nature operateth on Man and Brutes and Vegetables and all the Passive Elements and all the visible actions in this lower world are performed what can that mans Philosophie be worth I therefore return your Counsel study more throughly the nature of Ethereal Fire Satis pro imperio very Magisterially spoken and in such an igneous Rapture that it is not continuedly sense Does Mental and Sensitive Nature act on Brutes and Vegetables and all the Passive Elements But to let go that Is all the Doctors Philosophie worth nothing if he hold with Des Cartes touching the Phaenomenon of Light as to the Material part thereof It is the ignorance of Mr. Baxter that he rejects all in Des Cartes and Judiciousness in the Doctor that he retains some things and supplies where his Philosophie is deficient He names here onely the Mechanical Cause of Light viz. Motion and duly modified Particles But in his Enchiridium he intimates an higher principle than either Fire or Aether or any thing that is Material be it as fine and pure as you please to fancie it See his Enchirid Metaphys Cap. 19. where he shews plainly that Light would not be Light were there not a Spiritus Mundanus or Spirit of Nature which pervades the whole Universe Mr. Baxters ignorance whereof has cast him into so deep a dotage upon Fire and Light and fine discerpible Corporeities which he would by his Magisterial Prerogative dubb Spirits when to nothing that Title is due but what is Penetrable and Indiscerpible by reason of the immediate Oneness of its Essence even as God the Father and Creator of all Spirits is one Indiscerpible Substance or Being And therefore I would advise Mr. Baxter to studie more throughly the true nature of a Spirit and to let go these Ignes Fatui that would seduce him into thick mists and bogs For that universal Spirit of Nature is most certainly the Mover of the matter of the world and the Modifier thereof and thence exhibits to us not onely the Phaenomena of Light and Fire but of Earth and Water and frames all Vegetables into shape and growth and Fire of it self is but a dead Instrument in its hand as all is in the hand of God who is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 as Synesius if I well remember somewhere calls him in his Hymns Seventhly That is also less ingenuously done of Mr. Baxter when the Doctor so friendly and faithfully puts him in a way of undeceiving himself Sect. 17. touching the Doctrine of Atoms that he puts it off so slightly And so Sect. 18. where he earnestly exhorts him to studie the nature of Water as Mr. Baxter does others to studie the nature of Fire he as if he had been bitten and thence taken with that disease the Physicians call 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and which signifies the fear of Water has slunk away and quite neglected the Doctors friendly monition and is so small a Proficient in Hydrostaticks that pag. 68. he understands not what greater wonder there is in the rising of the Dr.'s Rundle than in the rising of a piece of Timber from the bottom of the Sea Which is a sign he never read the 13th Chapter of the Dr.'s Enchiridion Metaphysicum much less the Scholia thereon For if he had he would discern the difference and the vast usefulness of the one above that of the other to prove a Principium Hylarchicum distinct from the matter of the Universe against all evasions and tergiversations whatsoever But these things cannot be insisted on here Eighthly Mr. Baxter pag. 76. charges the Doctor with such a strange Paradox as to half of it that I cannot imagine from whence he should fetch it Tou seem says he to make all substance Atoms Spiritual Atoms and Material Atoms The latter part of the charge the Doctor I doubt not but will acknowledge to be true But may easily prove out of Mr. Baxter pag. 65. that he must hold so too For his words there are these That God is able to divide all matter into Atoms or indivisible parts I doubt not And can they be Phy●…ically divided into parts of which they don't consist But Mr. Baxter by the same reason making Spirits divisible by God though not by any Creature makes them consist of Spiritual Atoms for they cannot but consist of such parts as they are divisible into And if they be divisible by God into larger shreds onely but not into
Psychopyrists Letter Where having plainly proved that God can create an Indiscerpible Being though of a large Metaphysical amplitude and that there is nothing objected against it nor indeed can be but that then he would seem to puzzle his own Omnipotency which could not discerp such a Being the Doctor shews the vanity of that Objection in these very words The same says he may be said of the Metaphysical Monads namely that God cannot discerp them and at that rate he shall be allow'd to create nothing no not so much as Matter which consists of Physical Monads nor himself indeed to be For that cannot be God from whom all other things are not produced and created What reason can be more clear or more convincing That God can create a Spirit in the proper sense thereof which includes Indiscerpibility there being no reason against it but what is false it plainly implying that he can create nothing and consequently that he cannot be God Wherefore that Objection being thus clearly removed God as sure as himself is can create a Spirit penetrable and indiscerpible as himself is and is expresly acknowledged to be so by Mr. Baxter himself pag. 51. And he having created Spirits or Immaterial Substances of an opposite Species to Material which are impenetrable and discerpible of their immediate nature how can these Immaterial substances be any other than Penetrable and Indiscerpible Which is a very useful Dogma for assuring the souls personal subsistence after Death And therefore it is a piece of grand Disingenuity in Mr. Baxter to endeavour thus to slur and obscure so plain and edifying a Truth by mére Antick Distortions of words and sense by alterations and mutilations and by a kind of sophistick Buffoonry This is one specimen of his Disingenuity towards the Doctor who in his Answer has been so civil to him And now I have got into this Digression I shall not stick to exemplifie it in several others As secondly pag. 4. in those words And when I presume most I do but most lose my self and misuse my understanding Nothing is good for that which it was not made for Our Understandings as our Eyes are made onely for things revealed In many of your Books I take this for an excess So Mr. Baxter Let me now interpose a word or two in the behalf of the Doctor Is not this a plain piece of Disingenuity against the Doctor who has spent so great a part of his time in Philosophie which the mere Letter of the Scripture very rarely reveals any thing of to reproach him for his having used his understanding so much about things not revealed in Scripture Where should he use his Understanding and Reason if not in things unrevealed in Scripture that is in Philosophical things Things revealed in Scripture are Objects rather of Faith than of Science and Understanding And what a Paradox is this that our Understandings as our Eyes are made onely for things revealed When our Eyes are shut all the whole visible world by the closing of the palpebroe is vailed from us but it is revealed to us again by the opening of our eyes and so it is with the eye of the Understanding If it be shut through Pride Prejudice or Sensuality the mysteries of Philosophy are thereby vailed from it but if by true vertue and unfeigned sanctity of mind that eye be opened the Mysteries of Philosophy are the more clearly discovered to it especially if points be studied with singular industry which Mr. Baxter himself acknowledges of the Doctor pag. 21. onely he would there pin upon his back an Humble Ignoramus in some things which the Doctor I dare say will easily admit in many things yea in most and yet I believe this he will stand upon that in those things which he professes to know he will challenge all the world to disprove if they can And for probable Opinions especially if they be useless which many Books are too much stuffed withal he casts them out as the lumber of the mind and would willingly give them no room in his thoughts Firmness and soundness of Life is much better than the multiplicitie of uncertain Conceits And lastly whereas Mr. Baxter speaking of himself says And when I presume most I do but most lofe my self He has so bewildered and lo●… him●…elf in the multifarious and most-what needless points in Philosophy or Scholastick Divinity that if we can collect the measures of the Cause from the amplitude of the Effect he must certainly have been very presumptuous He had better have set up his Staff in his Saints everlasting Rest and such other edifying and useful Books as those than to have set up for either a Philosopher or Polemick Divine But it is the infelicity of too many that they are ignorant Quid valeant humeri quid ferre recusent as the Poet speaks or as the Pythagoreans 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 And so taking upon them a part in a Play which they are unfit for they both neglect that which they are fit for and miscarry by reason of their unfitness in their acting that Part they have rashly undertaken as Epictetus somewhere judiciously observes But if that passage And when I presume most I do but most lose my self was intended by him as an oblique Socratical reproof to the Doctor let him instance if he can where the Doctor has presumed above his strength He has medled but with a few things and therefore he need not envie his success therein especially they being of manifest use to the serious world so many as God has fitted for the reception of them Certainly there was some grand occasion for so grave a preliminary monition as he has given the Doctor You have it in the following Page p. 5. This premised says he I say undoubtedly it is utterly unrevealed either as to any certainty or probability That all Spirits are Souls and actuate Matter See what Heat and Hast or some worse Principle has engaged Mr. Baxter to do to father a down-right falshood upon the Doctor that he may thence take occasion to bestow a grave admonition on him and so place himself on the higher ground I am certain it is neither the Doctors opinion That all Spirits are Souls and actuate Matter nor has he writ so any where He onely says in his Preface to the Reader That all created Spirits are 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Souls in all probability and actuate some matter And his expression herein is both modest and true For though it is not certain or necessary yet it is very probable For if there were of the highest Orders of the Angels that fell it is very probable that they had corporeal Vehicles without which it is hard to conceive they could run into disorder And our Saviour Christs Soul which actuates a glorified spiritual Bodie being set above all the Orders of Angels it is likely that there is none of them is so refined above his Humane Nature as to