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A13091	The second part of the anatomie of abuses conteining the display of corruptions, with a perfect description of such imperfections, blemishes and abuses, as now reigning in euerie degree, require reformation for feare of Gods vengeance to be powred vpon the people and countrie, without speedie repentance, and conuersion vnto God: made dialogwise by Phillip Stubbes.; Anatomie of abuses. Part 2	Stubbes, Phillip.	1583 (1583)	STC 23380; ESTC S112627	103,282	240

preaching of Christ Iesus truelie that his kingdome might dailie bee increased their consciences discharged and the Church edefied which Christe Iesus hath bought with the shedding of his precious hart bloud Theod. Maie a pastor or a Minister of the Gospell forsake his flocke and refuse his charge for the wearing of a surplesse a cappe tippet or the like as manie hane done of late daies who being inforced to weare these garmentes haue giuen vp their liuings and forsaken all Amphil. Those that for the wearing of these garments being but the inuentions the traditions the rites the ceremonies the ordinances constitutions of man will leaue their flocks and giue ouer their charges not caring what become of the same doe shew themselues to be no true shepheards but such as Christ speaketh of that when they sée the Wolfe comming will flie away leauing their flocke to the slaughter of the gréedie wolfe They giue euident demonstration also that they are not such as the holie Ghost hath made ouerseers ouer their flocke but rather such as being possessed with the spirite of pride and ambition haue intruded them selues to the destruction of their flocke If they were such good shepheards as they ought to be and so louing to their flocke they would rather giue their life for their shéepe if néede required than to runne from them leauing them to the bloodie téeth of the mercilesse wolues Is hee a good shepheard that watcheth dailie vppon his flocke or hee that runnes from them for euerie light trifle I thinke we would count him a verie negligent shepheard And shall wee thinke him a diligent or a good pastor and one that would giue his life for his shéepe as a good pastor should doe that for such trifles wil estrang himselfe from his flocke for euer Therefore I beséech God to giue them grace to looke to their charges and to let the other trifles alone being no part of our saluation or damnation Theod. But they saie they refuse the wearing of these garments because they are offensiue to the godlie a scandall to the weake brethren a hinderaunce to manie in comming to the Gospel an induration to the papists hardning their hearts in hope that their trumperie will once come in again to their singular comfort Amphil. It is an old saying Better a bad excuse than none at all And truly it séemeth they are driuen to the wall and sore graueled that will flie to these simple shifts But whatsoeuer they say or affirme certain it is that offensiue to the godly they cannot be who haue already learned to distinguish betwixt the things abused and the abuses themselues And who know also how to vse things mere indifferent to good ends and purposes And therfore this question thus I shut vp in few words that the wearing of these garmentes béeing commaunded by a Christian Prince is not offensiue or scandalous to anie good Christians and to the other it mattereth not what it be For they are such as the Lorde hath cast off into a reprobate sence and preiudicate opinion abusing all things euen the truth it selfe to their owne destruction for euer excepte they repent which I praye God they maye doe if it bee his blessed will Theodo I pray you why doe they weare white in their surplesses rather than any other colour and why a forked cappe rather than a rounde one for the Papistes if they were the authors of these garmentes haue their misteries their figures their representations in all things Wherfore I desire to know your iudgment herein Amphil. You say the truth for the Papistes haue their misteries in all thinges after their maner Therfore thus they say that white doth signify holines innocency al kind of integrity putting them in mind what they ought to be in this life and representeth vnto them the beatitude the felicitie and happines of the life to come And thys they prooue ab exemplis apparitionum from the example of apparitiōs and visions in that aungels and celestial creatures haue euer appeared in the same colour of white Therefore forsooth they must weare white apparell The cornered cappe say these misterious fellows doth signifie and represent the whole monarchy of the world East West North South the gouernment whereof standeth vpon them as the cappe doth vppon their heades The gowne saye they doth signifie the plenary power which they haue to doe all things And therefore none but the Pope or hée with whome hee dispenceth maie weare the same euerie where bicause none haue plenariam potestatem plenarie power in euerie place but Beelzebub the Pope Yet the Ministers saith he maie weare them in their Churches in their owne iurisdictions ' because therein they haue full power from him Thus foolishlie do they deceiue themselues with vaine shewes shadows and imaginations forged in the mint of their owne braines to the destruction of manie But who is he that because these sottishe Papistes haue and doe gréeuouslie abuse these thinges will therefore haue them cleane remoued If all thinges that haue beene abused should be remooued because of the abuse than should we haue nothing left to the supply of our necessities neither meat drinke nor cloth for our bodies neyther yet which is more y e word of God the spirituall food of our soules nor any thing els almost For what thing is there in y e whole vniuersall world that eyther by one Hereticke or other hath not béene abused Let vs therfore take the abuses away and the things maie well remaine still For may not we christians vse these thinges which the wicked Papists haue abused to good ends vses and purposes I see no reason to the contrarie And therefore in conclusion I beséech the Lorde that wee may all agrée togither in one truth and not to deuide our selues one from another for tris●es making schismes ruptures breaches and factions in the church of God where we ought to nourish peace vnitie concord brotherly loue amitie and frendship one amongst an other And seeing we do all agree togither and iump in one truth hauing al one God our father one Lord Iesus Christ our sauiour one holy spirit of adoption one price of redemption one faith one hope one baptisme and one and the same inheritance in the kingdome of heauen Let vs therefore agree togither in these externall shadowes ceremonies and rites For is it not a shame to agree about the marow and to striue about the bone to contend about the karnell to vary about the shell to agree in the truth and to brabble for the shadow Let vs consider that this contention of ours among our selues doth hinder the course of the Gospell from taking such deepe roote in the heartes of the hearers as otherwise it would doe And thus for this time brother Theodorus we will breake off our talke concerning this matter vntill yt please God that we may meete againe Which if it please God we doe I promise you in an other woorke to discourse of the same more at large In the mean time let vs giue our selues to fasiing and prayer most humbly beséeching his excellēt maiesty to blesse our noble Quéen and to kéepe hir grace as the apple of his eie frō all hir foes to maintaine his word and gospell amongst vs to plant vnity and concord within our walles to increase our faith to graunt vs true and vnfained repentaunce for our sins and in the end eternall life in the kingdome of heauen thorow y e precious death passion blood-shedding and obedience of Christe Iesus our Lord and onely sauiour to whom with the father and the holy ghost one true and immortal God be al honor praise power empire and dominion throughout all congregations for euermore And thus brother Theodorus I bid you farewell in the Lord till I do sée you againe Theodo And I you also good brother Amphilogus beséeching the Lord that if we méete not vpon earth we maye meete yet in the kingdome of heauen there to rest in perfect felicitie for euer Amphil. The Lord grant it for his mercies sake Amen FINIS LONDON Printed by Roger Ward for William Wright and are to be solde at his shop ioyning to Saint Mildreds Church in the Poultry being the middle shop in the row 1583.

wedding or a christening they will not doe it vnder an angell or a noble at the lest And therefore the papists and aduersaries to the Gospel call our Gospel a polling Gospel our sermons roiall sermons angell sermons and noble sermons You call say they our blessed masse a polling masse but say they your preachings are more polling For we say they would haue sold a masse for a grote you will not sell a sermon vnder a roiall or a noble And thus these fellowes are a slander to the Gospel and robbers of their fellowe brethren If I should hire a man for fortie pound an hundred pound or more or lesse to teach my children nurture and knowledge if he for the execution therof shuld aske me more for the same than we agréed for were not this man a naughtie exacting and fraudulent felowe Nay if I compound with him to teach them in the best maner he is able for so much and he doth it not and yet receiue my monie haue not I good lawe against him If he should say vnto me I will not doe it except you giue me more were not this a very vnreasonable man For hauing his monie that was couenant is hee not bound both by lawe and conscience to teach them to the vttermost of his power Or if he shall not doe it and yet take my monie is not he a théefe and a robber Is this true in a priuate man not in an ecclesiasticall person Is he not hired to that end purpose to preach the word of God to his flocke And hath hee not wages for the same Shall he now denie to preach the same word except he haue more monie Or is he not bound in conscience to preach the same night and day without ceasing And if he doe not is he not a deceiuer a théefe a robber The pastor therefore hauing taken vpon him the cure charge of his flocke and hauing his stipend appointed for the same is bound to preach the worde of God to all his flocke indifferently whether it be at buriall wedding christening yea then especially or at any other time whensoeuer without taking or requiring of any more monie than the stipend he was hired for For if he take any more it is plaine theft before God and one day shall be answered for let them be sure of it Theod. You condemne not funerall sermons then so that they be good doe you Amphil. No God forbid Why should not godlie sermons be as wholsome and as necessarie at the burials of christians when wee haue such liuely spectacles before our eies of our mortalitie miserie and end as they be at all other times Yea truely at that present I thinke godlie sermons verie necessarie to put the people in remembrance of their mortalitie of their great miserie and frailtie of their fatall end of the immortalitie of the soule of the generall resurrection at the last day and of the ioie felicitie and beatitude of the life to come with the like godlie instructions that they may the better prepare themselues to the same when God shall call them hence to himselfe And although of late some phantasticall spirites haue taught that the vse of them is naught in that they stand in place of popish diriges and I cannot tell what yet cannot I be easilie drawne to assent vnto them for that I sée them in that respect a great deale more curious than godlie wise Theod. Is it lawfull thinke you for ministers and preachers of the Gospell to receiue stipends and wages for their preaching Amphil. Why not Otherwise how should they bee able to kéepe themselues frée from worldly occupations and trauels of this life as they ought to applie their studies for the discharge of their duties to maintaine themselues their family and houshold or how shuld they kéepe hospitalitie for the reléefe of the poore all which they are bound to doe both by Gods lawe and good conscience Therefore take away liuings and wages from the preachers and ouerthrowe preaching altogither the ordinarie meane to saluation in Christ. This caused the apostle to enter disputation of this point where he prooueth by inuincible arguments that a preacher or minister of the Gospell of Christ Iesus may Salua conscientia With a good conscience receiue wages and stipends for his paines susteined in the affaires of the Gospell and that for the causes abouesaid Therefore saith this apostle Boui trituranti non ligabis os Thou shalt not mussle the mouth of the oxe that treadeth foorth the corne Whereby is ment that he that laboreth and taketh paines in any good exercise ought not to be denied of his méed for his paines Againe he saith Dignus est operarius mercede sua The workman is woorthie of his reward And still insisting in the same argument hee saith Qui euangelium praedicant ex euangelio viuant They that preach the Gospell let them liue vpon the Gospell And yet further prosecuting the same more at large he saith Quis militat c. Who goeth on warfare at any time of his owne charges Who planteth a vineyard and eateth not of the fruit Who féedeth a flocke and eateth not of the milke of the flock By al which reasons and arguments it appeareth that he who preacheth the Gospel ought to liue of the Gospell But as euerie pastor that hath a peculiar stocke assigned him may with the testimonie of a good conscience receiue wages and maintenance of his flocke for his paines taken amongst them so may he not nor ought not to take wages or salarie of any other flocke adioining if so be it that either vpon request or his owne voluntarie good will he preach the word of God amongst them To them that are thus prouided for Christ our sauiour saith Gratis accepistis gratis date Fréely you haue receiued fréely giue againe But if any haue not a speciall flocke or charge assigned him then may he with good conscience receiue the beneuolencie the friendly contributions and rewards of the churches to whom he hath preached And this is probable both by the word of God and the examples of the apostles themselues Theod. What say you of preachers and lecturers that haue no peculiar flockes nor charges appointed them are they necessarie and may they receiue wages with a good conscience of the flockes and charges where they preach the word of God Amphil. First you aske me whether preachers and lecturers that haue no peculiar ●locks nor charges of their owne to attend vpon be necessarie Whereto I a●swere That considering the s●ate condition of the church at this day they are most necessarie But if it were so that euerie church and congregation had his preacher as euery one ought to preach else is he not sent by the Lord then were they not so necessarie but considering that most churches are planted and fraught with single reading ministers they are verie behouefull to helpe to supplie the defect of the others