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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A68098	A pleasant dialogue, betweene a souldior of Barwicke, and an English chaplaine Wherein are largely handled & laide open, such reasons as are brought in for maintenaunce of popishe traditions in our Eng. church. Also is collected, as in a short table, 120. particular corruptions yet remaining in our saide church, with sundrie other matters, necessary to be knowen of all persons. Togither with a letter of the same author, placed before this booke, in vvay of a preface.	Gilby, Anthony, ca. 1510-1585.	1581 (1581)	STC 11888; ESTC S109674	76,666	200

by my talke by all these bruites abroade and by the bitter contention that is fallen amongest the learned that these thinges do not edifie For such thinges as rayse contention in the Church of Christe do not edifie These ragges haue raised such a contention in England as neuer was since the gospell was in Englande Therefore they do not edifie They choke the synceritie of the gospell they staye and stoppe the course of the gospell they declare them to be halters that we are them they ioyne hands and drawe the yoke with the wicked Papistes they declare no true sigues of repentaunce whylest they are not ashamed of the shewes of their olde whorishe superstitions they giue Christe a reede in his hande and attire him with a crowne of thorne as though hee were vnable to appointe his Ministerie and Sacramentes without mens deuises they take away the differēce of the olde and new Testament they keepe the people in blindnesse and in the heauie clogge of cōscience that they thinke still that no Sacramentes are rightlie ministred without them they cause Christes seruauntes the true Preachers to be euill spoken of as the traditions aforetime did Christ and his Apostles Howe dare any man affirme then for verie shame that these ragges do edifie And if they do so they must bring more than their owne bare authoritie least they bee founde subiect to this sentence of Isaiah Wo vnto them that speake good of euill and euill of good which put darknesse for light light for darknesse Wo vnto thē that are wise in their owne eyes prudent in their owne sight whiche buylde againe y e things that they haue destroyed and make themselues transgressors Bern. I praye thee refrayne from these raging heates so can I like thy talke verie well Mil. These are no carnall passions nor rages as thou supposest But as my sayings haue their grounde of Gods holie worde so I thanke God I doo feele the zeale of gods glorie and the loue of my Brethren leade me thus to speake And the verie hatred of that Romane Antichriste and the griefe of harte to see the godlie Preachers by this vile occasion persecuted spoyled and prisoned by their brethren and rayled vpon by the papistes and Neutralles and their places occupied by such as will onelie weare the garmentes may trouble anie Christian conscience And marke who are the moste readie to weare this popishe geare Euen the papistes the moste enemies of the Gospell for they would neuer yet refuse them but by their craftie packing haue caused many other that haue no courage for the trueth but goe backwarde not forwarde to turne to them contrarie to the precepte of God by Ieremiah Let them returne vnto thee but return thou not vnto them And I will make thee vnto this people a strong brasen wall They shall fight agaynst thee and not preuayle c. Beholde what the way is to edifie to turne whollie from the wicked vnto God onelie as the Lorde saith agayne by Ieremiah O Israell if thou returne returne vnto mee Shall my Heritage be vnto me as a birde of diuers coloures O saieth the Lord by his Prophet Hosea Ephraim hath mixed him selfe amonge the Heathen Israel is as a cake on the hearth not turned Agayne They returne but not to the moste Highe They are like a deceytfull Bowe Whereby wee maye learne that the whole turning vnto God from all superstitions and not the patched turning is that which doeth edifie The waye to edifie in Christes Kingedome is described in these wordes In that daye sayeth the Lorde of Hostes I will cut off the names of the Idolles out of the lande and they shalbe no more remembred And I will cause the false prophetes and the vncleane Spirites to departe out of the lande And when anie shall yet prophecie his father and his mother shall kill him And in that daye the Prophetes shal be ashamed of their visions neyther shall they weare their roughe garmentes to deceaue Beholde nowe that the spreading of Christes Kingdome is to take awaye the verie names and all monumentes and remembraunces of the Idolles and to make the false Teachers ashamed of theyr Garmentes wherein they haue mocked God his people Thou mayest easelie perceaue hereby Bernard that to appointe these garments as ornamentes for Christes Ministers and Sacramentes is not the right waye to edifie Christes people no more than a skarre Crowe can geather Crowes or a Wolues skinne can please the sheepe Our Sauiour Christe tooke awaye the Garmentes appointed by his father because in his spirituall kingdome they could nothing edifie And shall Antichristes Garmentes toyes therein edifie Christe reiecteth al the outwarde forme of worshippe both of the Iewes and Gentiles and sayeth That his father will from thence forth bee worshipped in Spirite and trueth And he knew the best of al others what could edifie Furthermore thus bitterlie to striue for the mayntenaunce of Popishe garmentes after the Pope is banished for massing garmentes after the Masse is abolished for the ragges of that Idolatrous and blasphemous Priesthoode where wee saye It is detested and abiured it is a great madnes Therefore it can not edifie And this mayntenaunce of the monuments of their olde spirituall fornication doth declare that men haue not yet repēted of their olde spirituall fornication Wherefore this doeth not edifie No of the contrarie it maketh to edification to bring the popishe priesthoode into full detestation But that can neuer be so long as their garments are appoynted by authoritie to bring honour reuerence to Christes ministerie and Sacramentes the strumpettes garishe geare to attire the moste chaste Virgine Antichristes whorishe smocke to Christes pure spouse howe can this edifie Bern. Stay thy self thou wilt neuer haue done Goe nowe to the seconde that these are preceptes of men Mil. Why doubtest thou of that They are not of God For it is not written in Gods booke that the Ministers of GOD should weare the garmentes of the Idolatrous priestes but the contrarie as is partlie declared and shalbe made more playne hereafter Therefore not being of God they must eyther come from man or frō the Deuill or from both together Bern. Nay there be many things that are left indifferent as all the creatures of God may be indifferently vsed or not vsed And therefore by authoritie may bee commaunded Mil. Besides that in matters of Religiō mens commaundementes are vayne There be foure things which may make things indifferent by creation not indifferent to bee vsed of Christians The first is If that they beare the markes of the Idolles as straūge formes onely vsed to y t purpose or straūge names vsed onely in the idolatrous seruice as Cope or Surplesse The seconde if they be by vsage superstitious so that vnto them is attributed any kinde of holinesse as thoughe without them the sacramentes coulde not be ministred Thirdly if they be commaunded against christian libertie

this geare All is not golde that glittereth But I pray thee tell mee howe thou doest proue them preceptes of men as thou waste about to doo Mil. I say they haue no ground of gods worde therefore they are preceptes of men God neuer limited anie seuerall garment for his Ministers to bee knowne by in the newe Testament therefore they are playne preceptes of men and plantes by the heauenlie Father not planted The papistes them selues wil graunt them to be precepts of men Me thinke therefore the gospellers should not denie it Bern. They denie that they are such preceptes of men as Christ speaketh of to be brought in for Gods seruice in religion Mil. Amongest the papistes they were brought in and are vsed for his seruice in religion as their owne bookes and doinges do testifie Nowe the papistes are men who according to y e diuersitie of their sectes Regulare and irregulare appointed the diuersitie of garmentes some for the church some for holy water as the Surplesse Stole or Tippet some for censing the Idolls as the Copes black for the dead redde for y e Martyrs white for the Virgins Nowe all these superstitious trifles are preceptes of euill men therefore of men Bern. But not in Gods seruice religiō Mil. I do graunt For God will not be serued by such thinges neither will Christe allowe them in his Religion And therefore are they preceptes of men hauing no allowaunce of Gods worde nor of Christes Gospell who neither careth for these garments nor any other popishe shewes in the ministration of his holie Sacramentes or anie action of his Religion Neyther doe they sette forth the glorie of GOD nor his worde nor profitte but hinder the soules of men from the true seruice of God in Spirite and trueth And as alwayes wicked men haue most vrged their owne preceptes so at this daye these preceptes are more vrged than Gods holie commaundementes Would to god there were not to manie exāples both in the Cities in the Countries to proue this matter true To weare a vestiment is a precepte of men And why not a Cope An Albe is a precepte of men and why not a Surplesse A Stole is a precept of men and why not a Tippet c. Al patches of Poperie are preceptes of menne Therefore the priesthoode being taken away as the Authour to the Hebrewes sayeth it is of necessitie that the lawes pertaining to the Priesthoode shoulde be taken awaye So that if this were a lawe pertayning to the popishe priesthoode to weare a Surplesse at the ministration of the Sacramentes and at the saying of their Mattins or their Euensonge in their religion nowe should it cease from amongest them which haue renoūced that popish blasphemous priesthoode and that false religion whose body and substaunce if they wholie hate they muste needes abhorre all the patcheries that appertaigne to y e same religiō For the popishe priesthoode is like the lowsie and patched cloake of a filthie begger Nowe what a fondnes were this for two wise men or for thee and mee that pytying a poore begger had pulled off his patched cloake from him to giue him a better and afterwarde we twayne should fall together by the eares and the one caste the other in prison for the refusing to weare those lowsie ragges Bern. Surelie I would be loth to bee in thy companie if thou shouldest weare anie patches of that lowsie geare therefore I would be loth to cōpel thee to it by prisons Mil. Loe here is the strife betwixt our Gospellers They haue put downe that patched popishe Masse yet will they haue lowsie patches of it For the Surplesse is a Massing garment by the Papistes owne bookes They haue put down that Antichristian priesthoode and they will fight for his coates They are farre more foolishe than our fellowes the souldiours that when they had killed Christ caste lottes for his coate And I tell thee Bernarde thou sayest that thou shouldest loth my companie if I dyd weare the lowsie patches of some begger and so I tell thee playnelie that I doo lothe thee and all thy companie when I doo see you in the lowsie ragges of poperie Yet do I not hate you for thē would I let you alone But I tell you my minde plainely because I loue you and seeke to do you good Bern. Fellow Miles I thanke thee hartilie for I truste thou haste done me good I haue marked some things that I shal neuer forgett which I neuer heard nor vnderstoode before But how doest thou proue the thirde Minor that these garmentes giue offence Mil. Diddest thou not heare me say that they cause me to loth thy companie and so be sure they do offende many others who so soone as they see you in these garmentes their bloud is vpp remembring howe they burned the booke of God and that such thei were that burned their brethren of late and murthered y e soules of their fathers before Bern. Tushe this is but your heate and the offence is taken by you not giuen by vs. Mil. Yes yes You giue offences in faith and offences in charitie also Bern. Howe proue you that Mil. You drawe men from the stabilitie in Christe and frō the synceritie of the Gospell whylest you cause the ignoraunt to beleeue that Christes appoyntement of his Ministerie Sacramentes are not decent ynoughe without some of the Antichristian leauē Agayne thou boldenest others to occupie other patches of poperie while it thou vsest these and buyldest them vpp to superstition agayne And ye giue them to thinke that you do not abhorre that blasphemous Idolatrous priesthoode whose garmentes ye weare Yea the Bishoppes com●el men to weare these thinges against their consciences and therefore sinning thus against their brethren and wounding their weake consciences they sinne against Christe as Paule sayeth to the Corinthians and giue great offences Again your offences in charitie are manifest For besides the men that you spoyle of their liuings howe many women and children haue cause to be offended with your cruell cōmaundement about this geare And all that be growen to ful strēgth in the gospel haue their senses exercised to y e discretion of good euil are grieuously offended when they see them that haue so long a tyme bin teachers and preachers agaynst Antichriste not onelie weare suche superstitious apparell but compell others by tyrannie to come into the same bōdage Moreouer you giue offences both of faith and charitie when as you stablishe the Papistes in their olde erroures and cause them to saye That the Gospellers can not minister their Sacramentes nor haue anie ministerie at all but of their leauinges And as Hardinge testifieth to the Queenes Maiestie It hardeneth their hartes and causeth them to looke for more at our handes Euen as it is reported that Butcher Boner saide They beginne to taste of our Pottage they will shortelie fall to the flesh Thus they are moste offended with this Popishe ware