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A37216 A testimony against hypocrites and deceivers in defense of the truth David, John. 1690 (1690) Wing D375; ESTC R8994 13,317 15

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Dog to his Vomit and the Sow to her wallowing in the Mire to Capping and Kneeling to observations of Times monthly Weekly Quarterly Yearly a set time to Pray and another to Preach a time to serve God and a time to serve self As for your saying that we are followers of John Perrot and his mark is the Hat on in time of Prayer I answer that 's not true for we have seen several of John Perrot's Books brought forth by you relating of his Travel and Sufferings for a long time after the dissention and difference did arise amongst you about your corrupt rotten confused hypocritical dissembling Ministries and that you were drawn into parties crying as in the days of the Apostles I am of Paul I am of Apollos I am of Cephas I am of Christ And so you the followers of James the followers of George the followers of John Perrot And it is not true as you say that the grand cause of that dissention first began by John Perrot and it is not the Truth of the matter as you affirm it of his Spirit for he was but a Creature Manking and as in that estate was Dust and to return to Dust again and for his Spirit it was to return also to its own place and this shews your madness about Spirits And as for the Hat it is a dead Creature and has no Spirit in it and herein you make manifest that you are led by a delusive lying and wicked Spirit who say Hat-Spirit for the Hat hath as I said no Spirit in it and the Spirit of the Hat is a lying Expression given forth by the Devil and his Instruments and it is the evil Spirit that first invented such a Name for the Devil is the Father of Lies and the Tree is known by its Fruit herein your Fruit makes you manifest who call People hat-Hat-Spirits and we do not declare in the dark against your secrets but against the fruit of the Spirit that moves you to utter forth these lying Expressions I was Imprisoned in the days of Oliver the Protector so called because I could not acknowledg and declare that the Scripture was the Word of God as some of you well know to remain for three Months without Bail or Mainprise and yet I did and do own the Scripture which was declared by the holy Men of God to be a true Declaration and I do also own the Word that was in the beginning of which Word the Apostles did bear a true Testimony to be the Word of God and the Light of God and was before the Scripture was written and before time and in that Word and the Light of his Countenance do we pray do we move and have our Being And we find that all the holy Men of God recorded in Scripture from Time to Time received their Wisdom and Strength to Speak and to Write from that Word which was in the beginning Moses prophesied of him saying The Lord will raise unto you a Prophet like unto me Him shall you hear in all things Esay prophesied of that Word and said He should eat Butter and Honey until he should come to chuse the Good and refuse the evil John said In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God and the Word was made Flesh and dwelt among us and we saw his Glory To his own he came and his own did refuse him but as many as received him he gave them Power to become the Sons of God This Word we have received and this Word we will follow and in this Word will we put our whole Trust and Confidence This is He of whom we have received a Measure and in that Measure do we wait continually our Measure is our Teacher which teaches us as we abide faithful unto Him how to Pray when to Pray how to Speak and when to Speak unto that measure did the People called Quakers at their first coming forth amongst us direct us to turn our Minds and our Minds were turned accordingly and we will not leave that our Measure unto which our Minds are turned and return again to the observation of outward Traditions And if any People come among us to spy out our Liberty we will not thrust them out of our Houses and if they will speak that which is not Truth that hurteth not us when we are waiting in the Light we do know that you are shut out from the knowledg of our Conditions as you do confess and how we do build up one another in our most holy Faith for we do not complain against those that come in among us to wait with an evil Eye And I do challenge you to set forth what you can against my Words and Actions ever since the time that I declared against your Formality And we know that there is no such jarring and jangling in the true Church and the Ministers of Jesus Christ never gave forth such large Testimonies in the Name of the Lord in Writing or in Print and afterwards recant and condemn those Testimonies and publish that they were given forth by the dark Spirit in an hour of Temptation and that their Testimonies were fit for the Fire as you have done and with such confidence maintain such confused stuff and with open Faces stand in the Justification thereof and jumble one thing with another to seek to blind Peoples Eyes one while bearing a Testimony in the Name of the Lord that there was no such thing as was declared and you said that five great and manifest Lies meet together therein See Alexander the Coppersmith c. pag. 24. And in a while after quite contrary maintain and justifie the very thing before denied in your Book Judas and the Jews c. pag. 49 50. With these unfruitful Works of darkness we cannot join Thus we were used in those days when we parted with the formal Traditions of those Professors among whom there were many tender hearted People but their Pastors Teachers and Elders preached unto the People the very same Doctrine as you now Preach to wit that the Quakers came forth to disturb the Churches peace and when a Man would come in among them in a peaceable and quiet manner and sit or stand civilly and orderly in the Meeting if he would but speak or ask a question in sobriety they would presently bestir themselves in such a disquiet manner that the Meeting would be in an uproar and for that cause thrust the poor Quaker out of the House saying that he came to disturb their Peace And as then it was with those Professors so it is now with you who say that the Hat on in Prayer disturbs the Churches peace and herein we find you in the same persecuting Doctrine as those persecuting Pastors and Elders were in when at first we left their outward Traditions and betook our selves to follow the Light And as they then said that our Light was darkness so say you now And
A Testimony against Hypocrites and Deceivers in defence of the Truth OF all the Hypocrites and Deceivers I have seen or read of from the beginning of the World to this present time you who term your selves the Ministers and set up your selves as Elders and claim Authority over your Brethren whom you call a Visible Body Church and Society and are called QVAKERS are the most shameless brazen-fac'd and stoutest Instruments of your Master and have out strip'd all the rest of your Fore-fathers as may be seen read heard and understood in two several Books of yours the one Intituled the Spirit of Alexander the Coppersmith the other Intituled Judas and the Jews c. Coin the first born of the first Man Adam slew his Brother but he stood not in a long dispute when charged for it though he at first Motion said Am I my Brothers keeper yet presently he fell in his Argument and made no large Reply in defence of his Treachery The Sons of Jacob sold Joseph their Brother but they did not stand to the Justification of the Fact but sought to cover it as long as they could but when they came into distress they confessed and said That misery came upon them because they pitied not their innocent Brother's cry The Centurion and those that were with him watching when they saw the Wonders the great Earth quake that the Vail of the Temple was rent c. at the giving up of the Ghost feared greatly saying Truly this was the Son of God Judas the Traytor did not stand for the justification of his wicked Act when he saw how he had betraied the Innocent but said I have sinned c. The persecuting Priests of late years here in England who stoned whipped imprisoned haled out of the Synagogues the poor Quakers at their first appearance would seek to make some coverings for to hide their wicked Persecutions and would not with such confused boldness stand in open justification of lying Testimonies after it should be openly published in their faces as you in your said Books have done And for proving of this Truth let him that runneth read First you say You are standered greatly because it is said of you that you deny Liberty of Conscience and you appeal to God's Holy Witness in all Consciences for your proof I Answer Let all People that do in any measure own a Witness in their Consciences consider first what you your selves confess you never liked the word Liberty of Conscience and you seek to cover your selves under pretence that you did not mean it of outward but of inward liberty Again I Answer You say you liked not the word as commonly used Alex. the Coppersm p. 8. Is not the word Liberty of Conscience most commonly used by Men in requiring a liberty to exercise themselves in Matters of Religion and Worship according as the Spirit of the Lord makes manifest within in the Conscience And hath not this Request been from time to time in all Ages made by Professors of Religion unto Magistrates and Rulers desiring their Liberty Was not this the Request of Moses and Aaron when they were sent of the Lord to appear before Pharaoh King of Egypt And did they not say then unto Pharaoh that the Lord had sent them to require a Liberty for the People to go three days journey into the Wilderness to worship their God and was not this Request for a Liberty to an outward exercise of God's Worship Nay did not Moses and Aaron say when Pharaoh said they should go but leave something behind them that they must bring all with them because say they we must hold a Feast unto the Lord And is it not then about the outward exercise of God's Worship that was the Message of Moses and Aaron unto Pharaoh for Liberty Yet notwithstanding you reply and rejoin over and over seeking to uphold yourselves in this great Confusion and whereas you appeal unto God's holy Witness in all Consciences if ever you so used any Conscientious Enquirers as to thrust them out of your Meetings pag. 11. And you say It is baseness to suggest your ill-using of People in general and none named And thus when the Truth in plainness of Speech is laid open against you that you cannot in any measure deny but that the very words testifie in plain terms against your practice yet with boldness you would make People believe putting meanings contrary to the sound of your own words which your Fore-fathers the Professors that went before you would not adventure so far though they would put meanings to the Scriptures which was other Mens words yet would not they be so brazen-fac'd as to belie their own Expressions by putting contrary meanings thereunto Secondly You say you are not fallen from the first Principle of Doctrine first preached by the People called Quakers though you uphold maintain preach declare and publish in print That putting off the Hat in Prayer is an innocent and a reverent practice and comely order And though you have also declared and published in print that you have your time for Publick Prayer and that you have purchased parcels of the Earth on purpose to lay your dead Bodies together from the People of distinct ways Now let all that will not be wilfully blind consider how far this Doctrine will concur and agree with the first Principle of the Quakers Doctrine and Declarations both in words and writings when they came first forth and went into the Professors Meetings and declared against all their outward Forms and Observations against all their Hour-glasses and Watches limiting themselves unto times for to pray or preach yea they stood with their Hats on in the times of the then Professors Prayers saying That God must be worshipped in Spirit and in Truth that is before Time was and will continue the same when Time vanisheth away and be no more And when the Professors withstood them saying the Apostle said Every Man praying or prophesying with his Head covered dishonoureth his Head They answered That Christ was Head within them and that Christ was the same Son of God in Male and in Female and where-ever the Son appeared to speak whether in Male or in Female he discovered himself unto all that would receive and obey him And the Quakers Doctrine then was for the rising of the Witness in every Conscience and that all should cease from Man whose Breath is in his Nostrils and turn the mind to within and there to wait for Teachings and that none should look out for Teachings but wait in silence and be faithful to the measure be it ever so little it is sufficient It is the whorish Woman whose Eyes gad abroad whose Feet abide not in her own House and she that swept her House found the lost Groat in her own House And the Wise Virgins had Oil in their own Lamps the Foolish Virgins were shut out whilst they went abroad for Oil The Eye that looks out unto others